₦airaland Forum

Yyeske:
Abuse as much As you can but be rest assured that Biafrans would lose everything in Nigeria as Nigeria could amend its laws and there is nothing you can do about it. Those of you outside Igboland would need visas and renewing them from time to time, that is even if the Nigerian government allows for it. They could deport you and never allow you into Nigeria.

If that is all it takes to secure the future of our kids and those unborn i think it is worth it.

It's a worthy sacrifice.

Yyeske:
This time around, every Igbo property in Lagos will be gone,

If that guarantees Biafra then God help us.

A worthy sacrifice it is, the last time we lost 3m lives and every other thing only to get 20 pounds if it is just our property in Lagos and Abuja et all, it is better that losing another 3m lives.

GoroTango:
What claims? I am only trying to make one single point: WE CAN KICK YOU OUT

No you can't as long as you are still a member of Ecowas. Don't you get it.

afonjaheadhunt:
Do Nigerians need work permit in Togo, Benin, Ghana and other WA countries? or you people simply just looking for a way to get back at biafrans? why so much pain in the heart of Nigeria over Biafra quest to exit? As for our business Igbo never set up businesses anyhow we always develop our own markets.

Nigeria could amend its laws which supercedes any other treaties. You can have your Biafra but can't dictate Nigerian laws. Remember when Ghana and lately Zambia almost pushed Nigerians from trading in their countries, giving restrictions to Nigerians

afonjaheadhunt:
If that guarantees Biafra then God help us.

A worthy sacrifice it is, the last time we lost 3m lives and every other thing only to get 20 pounds if it is just our property in Lagos and Abuja et all, it is better that losing another 3m lives.

This time we will lose 20 million and the whole of Igboland leveled. Those who survive will start afresh as our parents and grandparents painfully did.
This time, maybe no 20 pounds sef

afonjaheadhunt:
If that is all it takes to secure the future of our kids and those unborn i think it is worth it.

It's a worthy sacrifice.

Do you own any property outside Igboland? Be sincere now

Yyeske:
Nigeria could amend its laws which supercedes any other treaties. You can have your Biafra but can't dictate Nigerian laws. Remember when Ghana and lately Zambia almost pushed Nigerians from trading in their countries, giving restrictions to Nigerians

They only put in stringent measure for foreign nationals to do business, now tell me have Igbo's not been dealing with such stringent measures and even more harsh policy already in one Nigeria and in Lagos.

Yyeske:
This time we will lose 20 million and the whole of Igboland leveled. Those who survive will start afresh as our parents and grandparents painfully did.
This time, maybe no 20 pounds sef

I reject it for the Igbo race, may it be the portion of your family and your generations to follow. Igbo's will not lose any more soul than it has already lost.

Obia egbum gbo onwe ya.

Yyeske:
Do you own any property outside Igboland? Be sincere now

Yes I do, still opening another showroom next month, while I have also done same in Anambra.

Is that your fear? Your property? greedy and selfish man, because of your stupid property your want Igbo's to live in perpetual servitude like Afonjas.

Better split that biz in two and have one in the east if you don't have the capital to outrightly open another in the east.

afonjaheadhunt:
Do Nigerians need work permit in Togo, Benin, Ghana and other WA countries? or you people simply just looking for a way to get back at biafrans? why so much pain in the heart of Nigeria over Biafra quest to exit? As for our business Igbo never set up businesses anyhow we always develop our own markets.

First of all ,why do you need to work in the zoo as you called it.If you hate Nigeria so much then you shouldn't be trading in it. Nigerians don't need visa to work in the countries you mentioned at the moment because the numbers of Nigerians there is economically sustainable for the host country but IBO's in Nigerian cities dominate small scale businesses which will be detrimental to Nigeria if Biafra is actualized so Nigeria will have to protect her economic interests. The same thing happened in Ghana when the Ghanaian government started disrupting Nigerian businesses there a few years ago

AshiwajuFoward:
Truth is that I don't blame this delusional OP. It's the busy-body Yorubas that don't know how to mind their business on this board that I blame. I'm talking about the ones that are perpetually bringing disgrace and ridicule not just to themselves but our race, by always yapping about 'igbo properties', 'igbo investments', and all manner of crap, as if Igbo people are the only non-indigenes in Yorubaland that have properties and investments for goodness sakes. There are South-South people that also own properties as well as investments in the SW, ditto Northerners, and even non-Nigerians sef. But some shameless unity-beggers who have lost their senses will not allow us to hear word again (perhaps because they fvcking one Shinwere and Ngozi), so they keep disturbing us and embarrassing themselves while making these people feel important. No be una fault.

Igbos undisputedly own the largest properties, in Lagos, and SW by extension from real estate, factories, companies, industries, businesses, markets etc.. so yes it's understandably sad to see your brothers day dream about owning Igbo mansions and driving in Igbo luxury mobiles.

Don't have the player hate the game.

Babalegba:
First of all ,why do you need to work in the zoo as you called it.If you hate Nigeria so much then you shouldn't be trading in it. Nigerians don't need visa to work in the countries you mentioned at the moment because the numbers of Nigerians there is economically sustainable for the host country but IBO's in Nigerian cities dominate small scale businesses which will be detrimental to Nigeria if Biafra is actualized so Nigeria will have to protect her economic interests. The same thing happened in Ghana when the Ghanaian government started disrupting Nigerian businesses there a few years ago

We don't hate Nigeria, we just love freedom.

CltrAltDel:
Very….. Very.. IGNORANT!!!

Let me add mine.
Completely IGNORANT.

afonjaheadhunt:
I have emboldened the answer to your question, it was not a peaceful secession that was why and the war did not come with victory.

As for benevolence go to surulere and ojuelegba and see yorubas still living in Igbo houses till this day yorubas should stop telling those lies

is the Lagos state government and federal goverment not still using Ojukwus fathers property in Lagos till this day? stop the lie.

What will make the Yoruba people in the second paragraph not copy the Govt actions in the third paragraph?

afonjaheadhunt:
We don't hate Nigeria, we just love freedom.

And Nigerians want to be free from your whining and arrogance.

afonjaheadhunt:
This write up is to address the blatant lie and outright misinformation by Yorubas and other ignorant Nigerians alike. Taking a cue from other successful non violent secessions in Africa and across the globe one would realize that most of the write ups come from ill informed people and is simply the wishful thinking of lazy youths and one Nigeria praise singers whom want to reap were they have not sowed and want to use fear to make the Igbo's submit to one Nigeria, while that is impossible let me take a minute or two to educate the illiterates and to think that one even claimed to be a lawyer yet ignorant to simple international laws that preceded national borders, national laws or local politics of hate. Looking at global standard practice from countries like Sudan, Ethiopia, USSR, EU, UK, India, Pakistan, Malaysia, etc, to numerous to mention. Why will the case of Nigeria be different except you want us all to agree that Nigeria is a Zoo like Mazi Nnamdi Kanu have always opined.

Now let me make it clear that as soon as Biafra is declared a nation both Nigeria and Biafra becomes two sovereign nations subject to international laws, which supersedes that of Nigeria or Biafra, we are subject to Ecowas laws, African Union laws and UN laws as guiding sovereignty of nations and citizens therein, Biafrans being west Africa nationals will be free to live and work within any part of Nigeria and west African countries with an Ecowas passport, many Biafrans will have dual citizenship status of both Nigeria and Biafra, Igbo money in the banks will also be safe in their current banks which will also operate in Biafra subject to Biafra Central bank laws, however it is advisable to use Diamond, Fidelity or UBA bank now. Nigeria could not touch Igbo's money during the war the only way they could achieve that was to change their currency from Nigeria Pound to Nigeria Naira and deny payment, but that will not work any more if Biafran becomes a sovereign country peacefully especially now that banking is digital and global.

As for our investment and saying countries do not tolerate petty trading in their countries, that will not affect Igbo's in Nigeria rather it will define Igbo's investment in Nigeria by properly stating our worth, values, tax, and our IGR contribution, already Igbo's markets in Lagos are worth well over 500,000.00 USD I am not even talking about the goods, I am talking about the value of property and markets built by Igbo's in Nigeria, markets like Alaba international, ASPANDA (Trade Fair) Oduade (Building materials markets) these markets were solely built by Igbo investors and would beat and mark or investment capital put by the government, take a market like ASPANDA for example it comes with it's own flyover to prevent traffic gridlocks for customers coming to the market, has several police post, Banks, fire station, eatries, a field, etc. Also take Alaba for example it is one of the largest electronic market in west Africa, same for Oduade, these markets have all beat the investment benchmark, The only Igbo market that would be affected would be the Ladipo Auto Market but as we all know the have requested to be given a site to build their own market, so they are equally up to the task.

On this note if Nigeria should find tricks outside the book to steal from Biafra and rob them off what is rightfully theirs they will not just be creating friction with other west African or African countries but the rest of the world and sending a negative message to investors and other multinationals, this also makes it very easy for Biafra to challenge Nigeria's decision in a competent court of law, owning properties in your country is not illegal and in a case of secession you are not meant to loose your properties simply because of ones quest for nationhood more over it is the citizen that are represented and not the nation to it is illegal to take from citizens to spite a nation rather should Nigeria want to take actions against Biafra those action be taken against Biafra directly not its citizens living on their soil indirectly, Nigeria can do this by giving bans on importation of goods made in Biafra, allowing access though it borders, but to carry any illegal action against legitimate Biafrans living in Nigeria legally with an Ecowas passport is a breach of the law in it own doing.

Yoruba must understand that Frustrating Igbo businessmen, real estate owners or investors in their region will not add to South west rather it will take away from them, Yoruba leaders know this and see Igbo's as investors and economic drivers and strive to provide an enabling environment for Igbo's to live and do business in SW it is unfortunate that Yoruba youths think otherwise and wish to claim Igbo properties in Lagos by hoping that Igbo's are displaced of their properties and financial earning. What these so called youth have failed to realize is the devastating effects and implications that it will have in the region and Igbo's would always continue in their trade if not in SW or Nigeria they will continue their trade in Biafra, west Africa and every other country that has an airport and a seaport.

In the event of Igbo abandoning their properties in Lagos, the real estate of Lagos will depreciate and many of the properties will be vacant and occupied by peasants, illiterates, artisans and beggars thus watering down the status and class of the city. The earnings of the state government through the sea ports, airport, Tenement tax etc will witness a massive plunge. However should it be extended to Igbo business men and investors then the effect will be far overbearing for the city as the city will become a mere town and a shadow of itself, a perfect example is during Christmas celebrations when many Igbo's in Lagos travel for the celebrations, some might want to argue that other Yorubas in other states will fill those opportunities left by the Igbo's, then the question is who fills those left by the Yorubas. Take the abandoned properties saga in Rivers state for example, many of the properties abandoned by the Igbo's were inhabited by fishermen, farmers, petty traders and artisans look at those properties today the have not been maintained and it did not better the lives of those who took them while the Igbo's have come back to buy many of them back and even built new ones.

Did I also mention that they are Igbo's owned companies, banks, Tele communication providers, businesses, factories, industries etc that are littered all over the SW and the federation do you realize how much will be lost in tax payment to these companies do you realize the level of unemployment that their exit will guarantee and the kind of dangers and insecurity that it will pose. The relevance of Igbo's to the economic stability and progress of the federation cannot be over emphasized in as much as it remains a sweet dream to own Igbo properties but in reality the dangers are far too impending to let it befall a city like Lagos that have survived on the generosity of the common wealth and diversity of Nigerians and especially Igbo's. Some might say indigenization policy, but ask yourselves where are the one you initially indigenized. So while it might be a beggars wish Yoruba leader will not let them ride its horse because as far as the are concerned Lagos has to attain its 2020 and 2050 goals but the bitter truth is depriving the Igbo's of the gains of Lagos is also hurting its goal, a clear case of cutting the nose to spite the face.

These assumptions are solely the wishes of the poor illiterate Yorubas especially the youths amongst them who are lazy wish to reap where they did not sow, so they pray that such evil befall the Igbo's so that they can reap what the Igbo's have sown but it should be noted that as long as the Igbo's secede legitimately without violence or warfare then these wishful thinking remains exactly what it is nothing but mere wishful thinking a mirage and fictitious expectations. I advice such Yorubas to stop wasting the youthful years of their lives waiting for Igbo's to loose their properties so they can own it and become landlords of homes that they do not know when the foundation was conceived. Igbo's will not loose their property in an event of a non-violent and successful disintegration of Nigeria and actualization of Biafra.

A question for those set of Yorubas, have you thought of the fact that if Biafra secedes other regions will seek to be free from Nigeria as well? in such case will these their wishful thinking also apply to other secessionists or will it just be for the Igbo's, if the later is the answers that goes to show that it is a clear case of hate, jealousy, animosity and wickedness for the Igbo's that have bore this thoughts and not the legitimacy of the rational behind it. Biafra or One Nigeria Igbo's will continue to live and do business in Nigeria legitimately without fear or favor as enemies of Ndigbo would wish.

Newmanluckyman

As a fellow comrade, I want to bring to your attention another angle to the issue of our properties in Nigeria


SCENARIO 1

What you should pray for is that the Yorubas should foolishly apply Kaduna declaration once the Igbos get Biafra

The reason for my view is that, once this is done, the economy of Odua and Arewa will collapse as in the days of IdiAmin Uganda after they chased out all the Indians.

Once their economy collapses and that of Biafrans blossom, they will now start begging our people to return back at our own terms


If we return back, it will be at our own terms and conditions


Example

We told the British to go

Years later, we started begging their investors to return back at their own terms and conditions
Today, the British on Nigerian soil is reaping twice of what they were reaping before


Moral of the lesson

Until you leave, some people will never know your value and accord you your respect



SCENARIO 2


If Arewas had not made that Kaduna declaration, many Biafrans would end up transferring the wealth of Biafra into Arewa to the detriment of Biafran economy.

This set of Biafrans will end up moving their factories into Arewa for cheaper labour and then export their products into Biafra at the detriment of our economy


Example

US wealthy class transferred their factories to China because of cheap labor.

As I type to you today,

there is no factory manufacturing computer in the US today

57000 factories today have all disappeared out of the US



If a war breaks out between the Chinese and US, it will take God's grace for the US to come out victorious because the US is now losing the Research and Development section of these factories to the Chinese.

Do you know that there are things Chinese children know how to produce that the US children don't know because of this transfer of industries wealth and knowledge


WHAT CAN SAVE THE US NOW ARE

1) Make Technological education compulsory for every US citizen for at least 3years before entering the universities or after leaving the universities, so as to empower each US citizen with technological knowledge to establish industries that will create wealth, eradicate unemployment, strengthen the economic and military capacities of the US

2) Practice a limited globalization in order to prevent cheaper products from China and other nations from eliminating local industries in the US which creates wealth, minimize unemployment and strengthen the economy and military powers of the US


My brother, pray that the Oduas follow the footsteps of Kaduna declaration


That should be your prayer as we apply the solutions I suggested to the US government.

AshiwajuFoward:
Truth is that I don't blame this delusional OP. It[b]'s the busy-body Yorubas that don't know how to mind their business on this board[/b] that I blame. I'm talking about the ones that are perpetually bringing disgrace and ridicule not just to themselves but our race, by always yapping about 'igbo properties', 'igbo investments', and all manner of crap, as if Igbo people are the only non-indigenes in Yorubaland that have properties and investments for goodness sakes. There are South-South people that also own properties as well as investments in the SW, ditto Northerners, and even non-Nigerians sef. But some shameless unity-beggers who have lost their senses will not allow us to hear word again (perhaps because they fvcking one Shinwere and Ngozi), so they keep disturbing us and embarrassing themselves while making these people feel important. No be una fault.

Thats all. Hope those yoruba board members will listen to you

AshiwajuFoward:
Truth is that I don't blame this delusional OP. It's the busy-body Yorubas that don't know how to mind their business on this board that I blame. I'm talking about the ones that are perpetually bringing disgrace and ridicule not just to themselves but our race, by always yapping about 'igbo properties', 'igbo investments', and all manner of crap, as if Igbo people are the only non-indigenes in Yorubaland that have properties and investments for goodness sakes. There are South-South people that also own properties as well as investments in the SW, ditto Northerners, and even non-Nigerians sef. But some shameless unity-beggers who have lost their senses will not allow us to hear word again (perhaps because they fvcking one Shinwere and Ngozi), so they keep disturbing us and embarrassing themselves while making these people feel important. No be una fault.

Thanks so much for this comment. It annoys me when I see some Yorubas accepting the lies and propaganda that Igbos own substantial investments in Yorubaland. There is nothing significant Igbos contribute to Yorubaland that other tribes do not contribute. They claim they have businesses, when you ask them what the businesses are, they tell you spare parts business in Ladipo or electronics shops in Alaba. But for every one naira an average Igbo man makes from those businesses, an average hausa business man makes 10 naira from bureau de change but you don't hear them make obnoxious noise that they own Lagos. They claim they have houses in Lagos but all other tribes in Nigeria have houses even foreigners have houses in Lagos. Like you rightly said, those bastard unity beggers are the one selling Yorubas cheap by making these ingrates feel important. I cant wait for the day they take all their belongings and mischievous acts out of Yorubaland. Enough of this hospitality to people that are ungrateful.

hilroy:
Thanks so much for this comment. It annoys me when I see some Yorubas accepting the lies and propaganda that Igbos own substantial investments in Yorubaland. There is nothing significant Igbos contribute to Yorubaland that other tribes do not contribute. They claim they have businesses, when you ask them what the businesses are, they tell you spare parts business in Ladipo or electronics shops in Alaba. But for every one naira an average Igbo man makes from those businesses, an average hausa business man makes 10 naira from bureau de change but you don't hear them make obnoxious noise that they own Lagos. They claim they have houses in Lagos but all other tribes in Nigeria have houses even foreigners have houses in Lagos. Like you rightly said, those bastard unity beggers are the one selling Yorubas cheap by making these ingrates feel important. I can wait for the day they take all their belongings and mischievous acts out of Yorubaland. Enough of this hospitality to people that are ungrateful.

Lagos is not yoruba land

Ask Oba of Lagos



Do not ask me



Go back to ekiti and Osun

ariesbull:
Lagos is not yoruba land

Ask Oba of Lagos



Do not ask me



Go back to ekiti and Osun

Don't worry. The day Nigeria seize to exist is when you will know who truly owns Lagos. What's happening to badoo gang in Ikorodu will be a child's play to what will happen to you if you refuse to leave by then.

hilroy:
Don't worry. The day Nigeria seize to exist is when you will know who truly owns Lagos. What's happening to badoo gang in Ikorodu will be a child's play to what will happen to you if you refuse to leave by then.

Yoruba man and mouth

hilroy:
Don't worry. The day Nigeria seize to exist is when you will know who truly owns Lagos. What's happening to badoo gang in Ikorodu will be a child's play to what will happen to you if you refuse to leave by then.

Why are you guys scared to make your own Ibadan Declaration against the Igbos.

Be bold like your masters up North

ariesbull:
Yoruba man and mouth

Those Agberos and Omo oniles you insult Yoruba with will let you know who has mouth and who doesn't

hilroy:
Those Agberos and Omo oniles you insult Yoruba with will let you know who has mouth and who doesn't

Where then dey when Hausa was killing from agility to mile 12


Where dem dey when ijaw boys dey kill from IKORODU to ijegun


Where dem dey when ladipo boys dey worry
Abeg go and sit down

ariesbull:
Where then dey when Hausa was killing from agility to mile 12


Where dem dey when ijaw boys dey kill from IKORODU to ijegun


Where dem dey when ladipo boys dey worry
Abeg go and sit down

We shall see......what happened in Ife will be 1/100000 of the fate that will befall you. The animosity is real and disturbing

afonjaheadhunt:
Everything you have written up there is based on Emotions and personal feelings, world bodies, Ecowas and the courts are not driven by such sentiments.

Sentiments? You lots shout about referandum! Referamdum!!

First you have to negotiate with government for referendum even the referandum needs to go to the senate floor. So is this how you booker for negotiations with government by issue threats of civil disorder? Even kidnappers go thru negotiations for ransom.

You have not even started, you guys are the sentimental ones, you only hope and dream, yet you can't work for it.

afonjaheadhunt:
I reject it for the Igbo race, may it be the portion of your family and your generations to follow. Igbo's will not lose any more soul than it has already lost.

Obia egbum gbo onwe ya.

We can't loose o

GoroTango:
You see how you openly display your ignorance even on matters regarding international treaties. Let me indulge you a bit

1. International treaties cannot take precedence over a sovereign nations laws. It never has and never will
2. The ECOWAS treaty that you made mention of has a clause that specifically states that no new nation can be admitted into the community except with the unanimous consent of all member states. Any of the current 16 nation ECOWAS states can permanently veto Biafra's acceptance into the community (Though this may be unlikely)
3. Also according to article 4 of the ECOWAS treaty which is

Protocol A/P.1/5/79 Relating to Free Movement of Persons, Residence and Establishment

Article 4

Notwithstanding the provisions of Article 3 [granting community citizens the right of entry and stay
provided they have valid travel documents and health certificates] above, Member States shall reserve
the right to refuse admission into their territory any Community citizen who comes within the category
of inadmissible immigrant under its laws.

4. International law is 'consent based'. This means that a state member is not obliged to abide by this type of international law, unless it has expressly consented to a particular course of conduct.

PLEASE TELL THE IPOB PR FLAT HEAD THAT HE WHO OWNS THE LAND OWNS EVERYTHING ON IT. IF YOU LIKE BUILD A BILLION SKYSCRAPERS YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. THATS HOW YOUR FATHERS LOST THEIR PROPERTIES ON QUEENS DRIVE IKOYI DURING THE CIVIL WAR.

afonjaheadhunt:
Yes I do, still opening another showroom next month, while I have also done same in Anambra.

Is that your fear? Your property? greedy and selfish man, because of your stupid property your want Igbo's to live in perpetual servitude like Afonjas.

Better split that biz in two and have one in the east if you don't have the capital to outrightly open another in the east.

Olodo,whoever told you I'm anywhere in the north. FYI, I'm based and balanced in Onitsha and doing fine. Just worried about the fate of millions up north.
I have nothing to lose directly

afonjaheadhunt:
No you can't as long as you are still a member of Ecowas. Don't you get it.

When Nigeria kicked out Ghanaians in the 80s there was no Ecowas abi? Dey there dey dream.

Warship:
Why are you guys scared to make your own Ibadan Declaration against the Igbos.

Be bold like your masters up North

Okay o. After your fathers will start running around like headless chickens.

afonjaheadhunt:
No they cant, stop writing out of uninformed emotions, just do a little research before spewing out of ignorance, i dint want to make this article too long as you can see many are complaining so i skipped a lot of illustrations, if Nigeria wants to successfully claim Igbo properties then they need to leave all those bodies and operate in isolation.

You can create another thread for who is sure for Biafra and who is not but don't derail this thread with that trash, you that is talking you are not sure for ndigbo, so get out.

You guys and your imaginations have no end! Sometimes, I feel you guys needs a learning that life is a negotiation rather than a way picture you IPOBS have. You can NEVER get this Biafra peacefully the way you're going about it. You started on a hateful note, progressed in it, incited in it and even threatened all in it. Suddenly, you are thinking of getting it peacefully? Haba, you don't know what you're saying! I tell you, the bad blood is very mutual. If you eventually get it, the Yorubas (I'm very sure of that) will lead the onslaught on ensuring you never get anything meaningful away from Nigeria. Not even your properties! We'll spearhead laws that will make you all stone Kanu.
The day you drew us into your battle, you put on a suicide vest. We're patiently waiting for 'our' time to put you all in your place. Don't worry, we'll unravel after getting your Biafra. Shebi your forebears told you how evil we are; we'll tell you soon that every action has its reaction.
***Patiently waiting for you guys to press the 'Self-Destruct' button ***