₦airaland Forum

cooldood:
Op, same way some people leave the villages in 9ja, to find a better source of livelihood in Lagos and some make it, while some don't (depends on a couple of factors, if you are a hardworking n smart guy, chances are your life will be better than staying in the villages/ towns, as there are more opportunities in Lagos). Same way, people see travelling to much better countries to find a better source of income, there's nothing bad in that. Let no one deceive you, ask yourself a simple question: are you hardworking n smart? If yes, oga, take your chances. Developed countries are designed for hard-workers to live a good life.

Same way cost of living in Lagos is higher than cost of living in villages/ towns (especially cost of accommodation), expect a much higher cost of living in advanced countries, however, just as what you earn/ make in Lagos within a year or two (working hard) can build you a duplex in the village if you save well, what you will earn out there in those great nations (working hard also) in 1 year, will buy you a good home in Lagos.

The question for all to answer is simple: does anywhere in the world guarantee future success- my answer is NO, but, does more developed and serene societies provide better opportunities and chances to succeed in future? I bet you, the answer is capital YES. Try your luck out there and see where you'd be within 3 years doing legal stuffs. #myonecent

vanbonattel:
Without a history of how we got here, how can we go forward?

Originalsly:
I advise everyone to watch the video It's all in You posted earlier. .... that's the bitter truth.... don't know why this kind conscious music be buried.
I'll advise anyone to travel abroad.....legally.... as a visitor.... if you can afford it. Most of us have it in mind that abroad can never be as hard as at home. ...there are soooo many jobs and soooo many opportunities.... that one just has to be willing to work hard and things will work out in time.
Is this different from the man in his far away village...seeing swanky videos and images of VI and Lekki and people living it up in Lagos.... deciding to sell all he has and migrate to Lagos? ...where there are soooo many jobs?
Nigeria is getting tougher to survive. .. life is becoming more challenging for us.... less job opportunities etc... but may I ask... name one country... just one country in the world where things are getting better for its citizen... and please... don't even think about naming USA, Canada, Germany, France, Italy or the UK. And when things are getting tougher for the citizens.... fingers point first to immigrants... they are always...always first on the blame list... and the first actions to be taken are against the illegal ones. Look well before you leap....all that glitters is not gold. .. the grass always look greener on the other side... you may very well he jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Misterdhee1:
So you feel GEJ's lootocracy style would have been way better in this era of paucity of funds

DisGuy:
Some people have houses of their own but will need "help" to pay their kids school fees, unexpected medical treatment, major,car issues

some people don't have houses of their own but can visit nigeria regularly, their kids are guaranteed proper education and healthcare (abroad or in Nigeria)- they have a good quality of life

Owning a house is not a significant measure of success

specter:
Why i urge Nigerian youths who are GIFTED to leave this country.

It’s a strange thing being born and raised in a country that doesn’t care for you as a citizen. With time, the natural effect is that eventually you start not caring about your country either. I’m past that point. Now I urge Nigerian youths to leave this supermassive black hole that swallows young, free-thinking, gifted individuals and stuffs them under a carpet, never letting them speak out or succeed, just because they don’t agree with everything the ruling party says.

We live in a country that doesn’t have the much-needed statistics about the number of its residents. A country where you have to bribe the nurse to get faster and better health care. A country where you need to be a member of the ruling party to get a job.

For the people in Nigeria, living in this status quo of the sheer devastation of human rights is just the way it is and they don’t feel like something should change. Actually, they don’t want to change.

For them, getting a job through active membership in the ruling party is the easy way to win at life. Education is at the lowest level, while self-confidence at the highest. Criticism is viewed as jealousy of someone’s success, not as a way to improve. Silencing the free-thinkers is number one in people’s ‘how to succeed for dummies’ book.

I’m not saying everyone is like that. There really are talented, intelligent and capable individuals with whom I share my origins. The thing is, they don’t live in Nigeria anymore. Remember the natural effect of not caring? Any kind of microscopic patriotism is lost when things like those mentioned above happen to you. So you put all your efforts in finding a way to leave.

I see my mum's eyes when I talk about leaving and it makes me utterly sad. I hear the disappointment in my mum’s voice when she says ‘I spent my life in this hole, leave and get the life you deserve.’ I feel the pain in my mum’s heart when she tries to find a way to keep me here but knows there isn’t one.

The worst thing is, there’s no one to blame. I wish there was a person who was responsible for this, individually, so we could get rid of him and start over. My fellow free-thinking citizens said it's President Buhari, I don’t agree. It’s us, this nation. Our way of thinking is so messed up that we agree and keep silent about things that anywhere else in the world would be seen as a crime. It’s simple. There’s a saying that goes ‘I’d rather be number one in my village than lose the race in a big city.

It’s pretty funny. In the English language the words ‘live’ and ‘leave’ are so similar, they even sound the same. Our only way to live is to leave this country. We deserve better. So long, I hope you all come back as a tourist one day and see you Nigeria in a better shape. Nigeria we love you, but we’re breaking up. It’s not me. It’s you.

boyo123:
Recently i have been under lots of pressure from friends and family asking me to try and get a visa to leave the country, but i have declined

i understand that things are not well organised in this country but travelling out to me is like putting yourself in an uncertain situation , you don't even know what to expect when you get there

The most annoying for me is the fear of being denied a visa again after trying some years back

I will prefer to rather put my money into a small business here in Nigeria no matter how small and try to grow from there

At least i know some people that have travelled out of the country for years and when ever they come back home they still cant afford a house of their own, they stay with relatives that has never even been to Ghana before

What is your opinion on these nairalanders

mmsen:
The conditions that lead to poverty are the same as elsewhere - there was a great deal of inequality which one would expect in societies that maintain monarchies.

Rather than hold their inconsiderate leadership to account they went to north America, Australasia or southern Africa to take another man's land. They wouldn't fight the people who made their lives hell in their own countries but would go to elsewhere to kill others. It is cowardice and laziness.

FortuneTeller:
Op you have very useful skills. There are people who travel and become taxi cab drivers, nurses aides, and factory workers. Sad to say but many of those people don't have the intelligence for higher jobs. Although there is honor on every job, you actually have the ability to do very well based on what you are currently doing. I'm in the US and no matter what anyone tells you, the system works even if you are poor. Struggling in Nigeria is not the same as struggling here. I can't tell you what to do, but I would give it a try.

vanbonattel:
GEJ had a much better economic team.

dabossman:
I have never been an advocate of relocating abroad without having something definite to go to. I have had several arguments with family members abroad on that issue, especially at the time when I had just finished my NYSC some 13 years ago.

However, having travelled to a few countries eventually I can say that the difference between those of us living here in Naija and those living abroad is simply about having a structured society. If making it in terms of being able to build a house in your village and own flashy cars is your goal, you've set of on the wrong foot. However, if what you want is a saner environment where basic things like electricity, transport system, educational system etc work to a very great extent, then you can consider relocating LEGALLY.

There are millions of Americans and Europeans who are not "rich" in the Nigerian sense. They don't own a car, live in a rented apartment and don't have much in savings. But they can catch a bus or train to work everyday, they come home at night and there is light. They can grab a cold beer from the fridge, sit and watch TV and then start the cycle all over again next day. They can save some small money for a holiday trip every now and then without worrying about visas. Their kids can go to mostly free public school and still get a decent education (even though they still complain about their own public schools), and they can struggle and save to pay for college later. There's law and order and a general sense of sanity, even though they also have some mad people. There is no being rich or "MAKING IT" involved. There's just a more general better standard of living, I guess. And if one is content with that, you're good to go.

The flip side is that here in Naija, you can make even more than those abroad, but you still have to contend with no light and noisy generators, bad roads that constantly damage your car, expensive private schools, unruly and indisciplined folk who don't even know what is right anymore and large scale corruption from top to bottom. But hey, as long as God continues to provide, we keep going on. It's just that sometimes, you wonder if this is living; especially when you've seen what it is like on the other side.


It's really about the kind of life you desire for yourself and your family eventually. What you probably need to define is what "making it" means to you.

You've written like a real Bossman...kudos

Misterdhee1:
Much better? Lol. There was nothing of such. He was lucky to have come in an era where there was excess of everything. Crude oil was selling at ridiculously high prices. If truly he had a much better economic team, Nigeria should have made a lot of progress during that period, because it was our best time (income wise). Yet, the man via his supposedly brilliant economic team had to borrow money to pay salaries as at 2015 when crude oil prices started crashing. The man was a disaster. Let's stop the blame game, and look forward to 2019 to vote in someone that's not as clueless and corrupt like GEJ or sick and old styled like Buhari.

dabossman:
I have never been an advocate of relocating abroad without having something definite to go to. I have had several arguments with family members abroad on that issue, especially at the time when I had just finished my NYSC some 13 years ago.

However, having travelled to a few countries eventually I can say that the difference between those of us living here in Naija and those living abroad is simply about having a structured society. If making it in terms of being able to build a house in your village and own flashy cars is your goal, you've set of on the wrong foot. However, if what you want is a saner environment where basic things like electricity, transport system, educational system etc work to a very great extent, then you can consider relocating LEGALLY.

There are millions of Americans and Europeans who are not "rich" in the Nigerian sense. They don't own a car, live in a rented apartment and don't have much in savings. But they can catch a bus or train to work everyday, they come home at night and there is light. They can grab a cold beer from the fridge, sit and watch TV and then start the cycle all over again next day. They can save some small money for a holiday trip every now and then without worrying about visas. Their kids can go to mostly free public school and still get a decent education (even though they still complain about their own public schools), and they can struggle and save to pay for college later. There's law and order and a general sense of sanity, even though they also have some mad people. There is no being rich or "MAKING IT" involved. There's just a more general better standard of living, I guess. And if one is content with that, you're good to go.

The flip side is that here in Naija, you can make even more than those abroad, but you still have to contend with no light and noisy generators, bad roads that constantly damage your car, expensive private schools, unruly and indisciplined folk who don't even know what is right anymore and large scale corruption from top to bottom. But hey, as long as God continues to provide, we keep going on. It's just that sometimes, you wonder if this is living; especially when you've seen what it is like on the other side.


It's really about the kind of life you desire for yourself and your family eventually. What you probably need to define is what "making it" means to you.

vanbonattel:
Continue to deceive yourself, at least GEJ never vanished to London.

vanbonattel:
Continue to deceive yourself, at least GEJ never vanished to London.

MansaMoussa:
Abraham was in Ur for Donkey Years, nobody heard about him until the day he took the bold step of leaving Ur for Canaan(whether God asked Him to or Not isn't my Biz)...Today, He is the father of All Nations..

Moses was Just Another Prince in Egypt until He led a handful of Slaves OUT of Egypt through the Desert to Canaan...and today, He is the Father of the Jews.

Mohamed was a Nobody in Mecca, until he went to Medina to get his Mojo before Returning to Mecca as a Conqueror

Ordinary Steps give you Ordiabry Results. if you want a simple contented life with no hassles, then stay in Nigeria and push it, you will surely make it..But if you are my kind who wants to sacrifice all for an excellent tomorrow for my CHILDREN, and see a dream bigger than yourself, then Move. Sheer Determination will get you there.
Go to Travelling Section and seek advice from peeps who have already taken the plunge not from Pussies who havent even left their state of birth be in Nigeria.

Remember, No Guts, No Glory

mctowel01:
Lol... where is your own billions? Or you don't even have up to 4kusd?

Misterdhee1:
But he milked the country dry didn't he?

achieverme:
Do you even know the meaning of Ash?

Misterdhee1:
But he milked the country dry didn't he?

erico2k2:
where is he hiding the money cos my shoe is still expenssive than his whole dressing up inone time

princetom1:
Yea, i don't have 4k usd and am busy spending the little i have improving myself

BleSSedMee:
The economic situation is bad!!! People are still making it here.

It's all about Opportunity. When you see it, grab it.



#LegitOpportunityOnlyLol

wizjid69:
If you have the opportunity then tàke it because things in this country can't be solved in the next 20 years.
My brother moved to England last year ànd he got a job. He doiñg much better than he did here,

MansaMoussa:
Is the American or Australian or Canadian better off than his English or French Native counterpart today ? Yes!
Mission accomplished!

erico2k2:
And you think seriously for once these people you call taxi drivers, factory workers,Nurses aides do not have intelligence for higher jobs? Realy?
I think you got stuck in the wrong school of thought here my sister, The western world is structured that anything you do PAYS and you can live off it not matter what you do for living it PAYS as far as its legal.Even key cutters and shoe shiners and store assistants have mortgage and cars.

shevy878:
RUBBISH

fbtowner:
Lol. U see your self. On the platter of gold. How many times does this opportunity shows itself.


Lol. Sit and keep waiting for this opportunity

Ppl are spending their life saving to get visa when they are suppose to do something meaningful here. Ofcause only that they dont see amything meaningful in here.

I wonder whose thinking is flawed.

FortuneTeller:
Please do not be offended by what I said. I am only saying what I have witnessed. I have seen lawyers, nurses, doctors who did well in Nigeria but they do not have the intelligence for the American system. It does not mean they are dumb, but it means that they do not have the required mental abilities for a different system. What passes as proficient in Nigeria may not meet quality standards in another country like the US and Canada. You certainly can't buy your way into certain jobs here. Why do you think Buhari is in the UK receiving medical treatment? I believe there is honor and all jobs so I am not saying that there is anything wrong with what they're doing. My comment was about the op. He has very good hands on skills that he will be able to use. I think he will be okay if he relocates.