₦airaland Forum

OAUTemitayo:
Bro, saying Federal Government did nothing in Lagos doesn't mean they didn't do at all.
But using human development index you will realise Awolowo did more for Lagos than Federal Government.
I can't wait for 100% resource control.
Any governor that cannot​ fit in would be booted out.
There will be no room for justification of failure in South West.

No, he did not. We will agree to disagree cos no way in hell I'm buying that. Mapping out areas around Isolo, Ilupeju and Ikeja for industries to build is hardly greater in scale than what the FG did in Lagos. I'd say not even close. What even initially started all this back-and-forth was the incredible claim that FG only built 3rd Mainland bridge and FESTAC in Lagos in 77 years of occupation.

You can't wait for 100% resource control? Let's not kid ourselves: Ondo, Osun, Oyo, and Ekiti would be in massive trouble without allocations from the centre. Those same states often struggle to pay ordinary salary. Even Ogun, while not finished, will be in severe recession.

Obi1kenobi:
No, he did not. We will agree to disagree cos no way in hell I'm buying that. Mapping out areas around Isolo, Ilupeju and Ikeja for industries to build is hardly greater in scale than what the FG did in Lagos. I'd say not even close. What even initially started all this back-and-forth was the incredible claim that FG only built 3rd Mainland bridge and FESTAC in Lagos in 77 years of occupation.

You can't wait for 100% resource control? Let's not kid ourselves: Ondo, Osun, Oyo, and Ekiti would be in massive trouble without allocations from the centre. Those same states often struggle to pay ordinary salary. Even Ogun, while not finished, will be in severe recession.

No work no pay.
All the states you mentioned have the potential to find their way out of any financial crises.
And to even include Ondo state and Ogun state is not right.
The custom in Ogun generates over 13 billion naira monthly if I am not mistaken, just count it as part of our resources.
Ondo state the last time I checked produce more oil than Abia, Omo, Anambra and any state in the east individually. If those states are not worth profiling as states that would suffer, I don't think Ondo is.
Lagos VAT is almost enough to make them okay.
Apart from Ekiti and Osun, which you can be rest assured will both be taken good care of through the proposed regional arrangement, I don't see why any Yoruba state should suffer.
Moreover, we won't agree to any arrangement that doesn't include Yoruba speaking part of Kogi and Kwara.
And I hope you know the potentials of those two states even though they are currently plagued by useless governors.

Obi1kenobi:
No, he did not. We will agree to disagree cos no way in hell I'm buying that. Mapping out areas around Isolo, Ilupeju and Ikeja for industries to build is hardly greater in scale than what the FG did in Lagos. I'd say not even close. What even initially started all this back-and-forth was the incredible claim that FG only built 3rd Mainland bridge and FESTAC in Lagos in 77 years of occupation.

You can't wait for 100% resource control? Let's not kid ourselves: Ondo, Osun, Oyo, and Ekiti would be in massive trouble without allocations from the centre. Those same states often struggle to pay ordinary salary. Even Ogun, while not finished, will be in severe recession.

Resource control will restore economic regionalism where states won't constantly be dependent on the federal government. This is not strange to Nigeria, it has happened before back when Nigeria had regional governments decades ago. It happened at a time where Nigeria's economy was not even dependent on oil, but on agriculture. It's well obvious the grip of the federal government is too much because of the unhealthy bailout of the states. In a politically harmonized society, the power at the state and federal levels have to be balanced. This is simply not the case in Nigeria. If states are left to fend off on their own, they will learn to utilize their resources properly and manage them. This will not only diversify the economy, but will further loosen the grip of the federal government.

Obi1kenobi:
Story. I already listed the things FG built. You're highly overstating what Awolowo and the Western region did and highly understating what the FG did.

But go take your exams, sha. Good luck.

Ibadan was the capital of the Western region.

Take a look at Ibadan and see the legacy of Awolowo.
It is a legacy of rot and decay.

If Awolowo couldn't make a good city out of his seat of power being Ibadan , isn't it a bit comical when Yorubas try to appropriate the Lagos infrastructural ground works laid down by first, the British and later the FG, over a period of more than 50years.

9jakool:
Resource control will restore economic regionalism where states won't constantly be dependent on the federal government. This is not strange to Nigeria, it has happened before back when Nigeria had regional governments decades ago. It happened at a time where Nigeria's economy was not even dependent on oil, but on agriculture. It's well obvious the grip of the federal government is too much because of the unhealthy bailout of the states. In a politically harmonized society, the power at the state and federal levels have to be balanced. This is simply not the case in Nigeria. If states are left to fend off on their own, they will learn to utilize their resources properly and manage them. This will not only diversify the economy, but will further loosen the grip of the federal government.

Oh, I think you misunderstand me. Of course, I'm in support of resource control. I was just trying to point out there has to be deliberation as to how the effects can be cushioned. Cos the majority of Nigerian states are not economically viable and in the short term, there will be a massive shock to the system trying to wean dependent states off the Federal teat they've been feeding on for decades.

pazienza:
Ibadan was the capital of the Western region.

Take a look at Ibadan and see the legacy of Awolowo.
It is a legacy of rot and decay.

If Awolowo couldn't make a good city out of his seat of power being Lagos, isn't it a bit comical when Yorubas try to appropriate the Lagos infrastructural ground works laid down by first, the British and later the FG, over a period of more than 50years.

Yinmu. Continue deceiving yourself there. The legacies of Awo at ibadan are still standing today. What are the legacies of zik in the East? That same Ibadan is still far more developed economically and infrastructurally than every single one of your SE cities. #Fact. It continues to feature on the list of African cities with the best future economic prospects on the continent while none of your cities have so far made the cut. Na envy go kill una.

pazienza:
Ibadan was the capital of the Western region.

Take a look at Ibadan and see the legacy of Awolowo.
It is a legacy of rot and decay.

If Awolowo couldn't make a good city out of his seat of power being Lagos, isn't it a bit comical when Yorubas try to appropriate the Lagos infrastructural ground works laid down by first, the British and later the FG, over a period of more than 50years.

Hate will continue to be your greatest undoing.
Awolowo's legacies are abound in the South West.
Ibadan is much more developed than your gully erosion ravaged states.
Onitsha is the most polluted city in the world so what's your fuss?

OAUTemitayo:
Hate will continue to be your greatest undoing.
Awolowo's legacies are abound in the South West.
Ibadan is much more developed than your gully erosion ravaged states.
Onitsha is the most polluted city in the world so what's your fuss?

Don't mind the bad-belle hater. He's trying to rewrite history by belittling Awo's legacy in not just Ibadan but Lagos, when all the industrial estates he initiated in Lagos are still standing today, and contributing in no small measure to the economic bottom line of the the state. Odua investment company is still standing as another towering legacy of the sage. He should tell us and show us how zik or any of the SE leaders was able to build the level of infrastructural legacy left behind by Awo. I have attached pix of the ibadan Central Business District that was initiated by the same Awo at Ibadan. He should show us an equivalent of it in the present-day SE. This isn't marina Lagos CBD but IB. This right here is a dumbed down version of the marina CBD (and it was all built without oil money) and is clear evidence that we are more than capable of replicating Lagos infrastructure else where in our region. He should show us any worthy infrastructural feat that his folks and region has attained independently. Oshisko.

Obi1kenobi:
No, he did not. We will agree to disagree cos no way in hell I'm buying that. Mapping out areas around Isolo, Ilupeju and Ikeja for industries to build is hardly greater in scale than what the FG did in Lagos. I'd say not even close. What even initially started all this back-and-forth was the incredible claim that FG only built 3rd Mainland bridge and FESTAC in Lagos in 77 years of occupation.

You can't wait for 100% resource control? Let's not kid ourselves: Ondo, Osun, Oyo, and Ekiti would be in massive trouble without allocations from the centre. Those same states often struggle to pay ordinary salary. Even Ogun, while not finished, will be in severe recession.

Ogun state IGR surpasses that of the entire south east, Ogun state is the industrial and mining capital of the country.

Ondo state has huge deposits of bitumen, besides its oil exceeds that of Imo and Abia combined

pazienza:
Ibadan was the capital of the Western region.

Take a look at Ibadan and see the legacy of Awolowo.
It is a legacy of rot and decay.

If Awolowo couldn't make a good city out of his seat of power being Lagos, isn't it a bit comical when Yorubas try to appropriate the Lagos infrastructural ground works laid down by first, the British and later the FG, over a period of more than 50years.

Lol, pazienza the revisionist. After alleging that Awolowo was behind the 1966 Ibo coup, you have come again with Awolowo has no legacy in Ibadan


Everybody knows Awolowo's legacies but we don't know that of Azikwe

It's probably more expensive and harder to ship through those ports. I say probably cos I don't know how the whole thing works.

Well..At least the myth about the ports in those parts being dysfunctional has been busted. No excuses

Na dem wan die for Lagos

This also shows most of these clowns who come here to make noise about ports aren't involved in the shipping business. They are just regurgitating the same crap they've heard. Monkey see, monkey do

The real potor importers aren't on Nairaland.

OAUTemitayo:
Bro, saying Federal Government did nothing in Lagos doesn't mean they didn't do at all.
But using human development index you will realise Awolowo did more for Lagos than Federal Government.
I can't wait for 100% resource control.
Any governor that cannot​ fit in would be booted out.
There will be no room for justification of failure in South West.

The same way FG did some things in SE, SS, North and other parts of the Country. If there is no first Niger bridge, we will not be talking about second Niger bridge. FG built the first one. But Igbos will deny FG did anything for them to validate their victim mentality and persecution complex

Obi1kenobi:
No, he did not. We will agree to disagree cos no way in hell I'm buying that. Mapping out areas around Isolo, Ilupeju and Ikeja for industries to build is hardly greater in scale than what the FG did in Lagos. I'd say not even close. What even initially started all this back-and-forth was the incredible claim that FG only built 3rd Mainland bridge and FESTAC in Lagos in 77 years of occupation.

You can't wait for 100% resource control? Let's not kid ourselves: Ondo, Osun, Oyo, and Ekiti would be in massive trouble without allocations from the centre. Those same states often struggle to pay ordinary salary. Even Ogun, while not finished, will be in severe recession.

What's this one saying? What if the British built Lagos seaport? Was it from oil produce or cocoa? Before the exploration of oil, Who was the largest source of NG revenues if not the SW for their Cocoa, Timber, Limestones and Palm.. Abi dis one dey mad ni..

Btw, Ondo has huge oil in abundance. In fact, it has the second largest oil reserves after Canada. You should worry about your landlocked red mud SE first!

OAUTemitayo:
No work no pay.
All the states you mentioned have the potential to find their way out of any financial crises.
And to even include Ondo state and Ogun state is not right.
The custom in Ogun generates over 13 billion naira monthly if I am not mistaken, just count it as part of our resources.
Ondo state the last time I checked produce more oil than Abia, Omo, Anambra and any state in the east individually. If those states are not worth profiling as states that would suffer, I don't think Ondo is.
Lagos VAT is almost enough to make them okay.
Apart from Ekiti and Osun, which you can be rest assured will both be taken good care of through the proposed regional arrangement, I don't see why any Yoruba state should suffer.
Moreover, we won't agree to any arrangement that doesn't include Yoruba speaking part of Kogi and Kwara.
And I hope you know the potentials of those two states even though they are currently plagued by useless governors.

Osun has huge Gold deposits yet to be mined. As for Ekiti, they have got enough arable land for farming, they are not a "yam" producing state for nothing.

diadem10:
Osun has huge Gold deposits yet to be mined. As for Ekiti, they have got enough arable land for farming, they are not a "yam" producing state for nothing.

True

MasterChen:
It's probably more expensive and harder to ship through those ports. I say probably cos I don't know how the whole thing works.

Well..At least the myth about the ports in those parts being dysfunctional has been busted. No excuses

Na dem wan die for Lagos

This also shows most of these clowns who come here to make noise about ports aren't involved in the shipping business. They are just regurgitating the same crap they've heard. Monkey see, monkey do

The real potor importers aren't on Nairaland.

Nah haven't seen anything to suggest that it's expensive to use eastern ports. They haven't brought screenshots, links, or law/regulation to prover this either. You notice the asked about my stats. Maybe after I'm done I'll post Tariff regulations and NPA act on first page.

They act like shallow port that isn't intended to be deep seaport is supposed to operate like one. They would probably be say Chevy Camaro is dysfunctional since is doesn't have sane capacity as Chevy Suburban. Why they refuse to tell us why the don't use Rivers ports is funny. It's as deep as ones currently in Lagos.

Blue3k:
Perpetual wailer you want to focus on stupid policy that happened decades ago. When PDP was in power for 16 years the didn't correct it yet you skip over that. Lol you guys are excuse makers. I didn't switch my statements I said dredging shallow ports is waste of time in hopes of making deep seaports is waste. Its better to pick optimal location with deeper narural depth like Ibakka.

Simple question you will dodge for rest of your life. Why won't you use deeper port in Rivers.

Lol I do agree you guys have no facts to back up your claim. At you didn't say Igbos made the port a success.

The problem with you, is that you keep blaming PDP while forgetting that Obasanjo a Yoruba man ruled for 8years out of the 16years without doing anything to implement the original idea of constructing Ibaka seaport.


So if we end up saying that Obasanjo who was a military president in the 70s and in the 2000s deliberately failed to implement the original idea of constructing ibaka seaport as part of Yoruba deliberate policy keep the Eastern seaports moribund in importation, Don't You Think We Are Right.?


Joeyfire pazienza Obi1kenobi


Read this post below posted by joeyfire slowly this time around



OP- Ask Sarumi and Bamanga Tukur for a start
"In the twilight of General Yakubu Gowon’s administration in the mid-1970s, the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA) was battling with the problems of ports congestion as a result of massive cement importation.
The government decided to build two new ports to ease the transaction costs associated with shipping and to ensure adequate facilities for Nigeria’s import and export needs.
A feasibility study was carried out and the experts recommended the creation of two new ports; one in Lagos and another in Ibaka, in present day Akwa Ibom State. These projects were contained in the 3rd National Development Plan.
The one in Lagos is the Tin-Can Island Port commissioned by the then Chief of Staff, Supreme Headquarters, and deputy to then military Head of State, Genera Olusegun Obasanjo, now late Major-General Shehu Yar’Adua on 14th October, 1977.
Ibaka Port was never constructed, purportedly on the advice of the then Chief Executive Officer of the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA) and current Chairman of the ruling People’s Democratic Party (PDP) – Alhaji Bamanga Tukur.
I heard Tukur’s argument was that instead of starting a new port from scratch, the same resources could be used to revive existing and nearby Calabar Port.
Government bought his argument and a huge amount I’m still trying to find out was used to revive the port. The new Calabar Port Complex was commissioned on 9th June, 1979.
I heard Alhaji Tukur has a wife from Calabar. Now I’m not sure if his wife influenced his decision or if his support for Calabar port made the community bless him with their daughter. But anyhow, it is clear that the decision is a wrong one because Calabar Port is still moribund.
Fast forward to 2006 when Alhaji Bamanga Tukur’sson, the iconic Chief Adebayo Babatunde Sarumi, was in charge of the Nigerian Ports Authority.
A princely sum of 56 million dollars (about N9 billion) was spent on dredging the Calabar Port channel.
The dredging contract was awarded to two dredging firms: Messrs Jan de Nul and Van Oord. The federal government divided the entire length of the channel in Calabar Port between the two firms.
While Van Oord was paid $26 million to dredge kilometre 0 to 46, Jan de Nul got $30 million to dredge kilometre 46 to 84. According to the scope of the contract, the two firms were to scoop out 25 million cubic metres of sand to achieve an overall draft of 8 metres to allow big vessels call at the port.
Not one big ship has called at the port ever since because while the companies collected their monies and walked away, the channel remains as shallow as ever.
Of course the appreciative Calabar community honoured Chief Sarumi with a chieftaincy title."
http://shipsandports.com.ng/before-we-dredge-calabar-port-again/




SuperS1Panther
Deji17
Masternchen
ODvanguard
OAUtemitayo




Take note that Obasanjo was the head of state during that time Tincan and Ibaka seaports were proposed
The same Obasanjo never built an international airport in the SE until the coming of Jonathan.?
Why did Obasanjo act the way he did.?

IgboSubmarine:
[s]The problem with you, is that you keep blaming PDP while forgetting that Obasanjo a Yoruba man ruled for 8years out of the 16years without doing anything to implement the original idea of constructing Ibaka seaport.

So if we end up saying that Obasanjo who was a military president in the 70s and in the 2000s deliberately failed to implement the original idea of constructing ibaka seaport as part of Yoruba deliberate policy keep the Eastern seaports moribund in importation, Don't You Think We Are Right.?

Read this post below posted by joeyfire slowly this time around[/s]

Yawn and your reps were sleeping those 8 years. We know they are useless sons of the soil that's why you want biafra right? Again I already addressed this issue you don't think to get a coalition to get this through. How did it happen in Fulani Buhari government that federal government budgets money for Ibom port. Yeah now stop your nonsense tribalism. The free trade zone was also approved if his government if I remember correctly.

Again how are ports moribund port out preforming so called functional ports. Are you illiterate abeg stop it boy. This is pathetic read the stats before jumping in mentions.

You typed this long and still have nothing smart say again. It's speaks to your vast ineptitude of you and ilk. Come bring facts why you aren't using rivers port. Why your reps ddint push for 16 years? Then under Johnathan the hero nothing was done. Great job again with this daft response.

Blue3k:
Yawn and your reps were sleeping those 8 years. Weven know they are useless sons of the soil that's why you want biafra. Again I already addressed this issue you don't think you could get a coalition to get this through. How did it happen in Fulani Buhari government where federal government budgets money for ibom port. Yeah now stop your nonsense tribalism.

You have not addressed any issue.


Why didn't Obasanjo in the 70s and 2000s implement the original plan to construct Ibaka seaport



Is it not part of the Yoruba conspiracy against the people of Old Eastern region.?


Joeyfire pazienza Obi1kenobi




Read this post below posted by joeyfire slowly this time around
OP- Ask Sarumi and Bamanga Tukur for a start
"In the twilight of General Yakubu Gowon’s administration in the mid-1970s, the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA) was battling with the problems of ports congestion as a result of massive cement importation.
The government decided to build two new ports to ease the transaction costs associated with shipping and to ensure adequate facilities for Nigeria’s import and export needs.
A feasibility study was carried out and the experts recommended the creation of two new ports; one in Lagos and another in Ibaka, in present day Akwa Ibom State. These projects were contained in the 3rd National Development Plan.
The one in Lagos is the Tin-Can Island Port commissioned by the then Chief of Staff, Supreme Headquarters, and deputy to then military Head of State, Genera Olusegun Obasanjo, now late Major-General Shehu Yar’Adua on 14th October, 1977.
Ibaka Port was never constructed, purportedly on the advice of the then Chief Executive Officer of the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA) and current Chairman of the ruling People’s Democratic Party (PDP) – Alhaji Bamanga Tukur.
I heard Tukur’s argument was that instead of starting a new port from scratch, the same resources could be used to revive existing and nearby Calabar Port.
Government bought his argument and a huge amount I’m still trying to find out was used to revive the port. The new Calabar Port Complex was commissioned on 9th June, 1979.
I heard Alhaji Tukur has a wife from Calabar. Now I’m not sure if his wife influenced his decision or if his support for Calabar port made the community bless him with their daughter. But anyhow, it is clear that the decision is a wrong one because Calabar Port is still moribund.
Fast forward to 2006 when Alhaji Bamanga Tukur’sson, the iconic Chief Adebayo Babatunde Sarumi, was in charge of the Nigerian Ports Authority.
A princely sum of 56 million dollars (about N9 billion) was spent on dredging the Calabar Port channel.
The dredging contract was awarded to two dredging firms: Messrs Jan de Nul and Van Oord. The federal government divided the entire length of the channel in Calabar Port between the two firms.
While Van Oord was paid $26 million to dredge kilometre 0 to 46, Jan de Nul got $30 million to dredge kilometre 46 to 84. According to the scope of the contract, the two firms were to scoop out 25 million cubic metres of sand to achieve an overall draft of 8 metres to allow big vessels call at the port.
Not one big ship has called at the port ever since because while the companies collected their monies and walked away, the channel remains as shallow as ever.
Of course the appreciative Calabar community honoured Chief Sarumi with a chieftaincy title."
http://shipsandports.com.ng/before-we-dredge-calabar-port-again/



SuperS1Panther

Deji17

Masternchen

ODvanguard

OAUtemitayo


Amberon11

Take note that Obasanjo was the head of state during that time Tincan and Ibaka seaports were proposed


The same Obasanjo never built an international airport in the SE until the coming of Jonathan.?


Why did Obasanjo act the way he did.?

Blue3k you mentioned why Jonathan failed to do so


Yes on that issue, Jonathan failed and that is why some Biafrans see him as an idiot who repeated Azikwe's mistake by believing so much in One Nigeria to the detriment of his region.


Example of such Biafrans are Kanu and Asari

IgboSubmarine:
[s]You have not addressed any issue.


Why didn't Obasanjo in the 70s and 2000s implement the original plan to construct Ibaka seaport



Is it not part of the Yoruba conspiracy against the people of Old Eastern region.?[/s]

Millitary government was stupid simple dont over think it. There are decades of idiots. Why didn't your hero Jonathan do it. Why didn't PDP do it. Now we see Buhari the fulani doing it. The same head of state back then who neglected the task of ibom back the doing it now isn't that funny. Stop the inane questions and dumb conspiracy theories.

Quote for you.

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

IgboSubmarine:
Blue3k you mentioned why Jonathan failed to do so
Yes on that issue.

You elected officials are dumb along with guy you put in. The fulani Buhari does what your useless sons of soil neglected for 16 years glad you can admit it. Now that your done with history lesson tell me why your not patronizing Rivers or Onne port.

Your dad was very correct.

My sister has worked with two shipping companies. One in PH and she is currently working with a very big shipping company in Lagos. It is rather absurd that this op who seems to be very bereft of any knowledge concerning matters relating to freight forwarding is the one going about calling people daft.

The fact of the matter is that the seaports in most countries DO NOT even have the Onne and Rivers Ports as destinations on their list. Meaning they do not recognize them and do not ship to those destinations. That is clearly why they are mostly used for onward crude oil related shipments. From what she said , they sometimes had no problems shipping from PH but receiving was a huge problem as they would have to come in through Lagos ports. Its the same way we have several so called "international airports" in Nigeria but Turkish or Qatar airways will never land in Port Harcourt. They will only bring you in through Lagos and transit you to PH using other airlines.

Also, the Onne and Rivers Ports are shallow and won't allow for very large vessels. Only Lagos ports can accommodate such huge vessels.

Do not listen to this deluded op, ask anyone into freight forwarding to know more.

Obi1kenobi:
I know absolutely nothing about the maritime sector, but my dad once told me (in one of his anti-government rants ) that the government pretty much sabotage the import capacity of other ports ensuring most goods are routed through Lagos ports. Then again, he was no authority on the issue either as he was an FIRS official. But think about it. Despite the massive problems in clearing goods at the Lagos ports, it still accounts for the bulk of import traffic. There must be underlying policy and structural problems that are responsible for this.

I would still wait for someone in the know to illuminate this issue.

Exactly!!!

Ereolamide:
The shortcomings of those Ports include shallow draft, which will make it impossible for large vessels to berth.

It's not just about good roads and all, the eastern port can only berth small ships, and most shippers use big ships to import their merchandise.

Blue3k:
Millitary government was stupid simple dont over think it. There are decades of idiots. Why didn't your hero Jonathan do it. Why didn't PDP do it. Now we see Buhari the fulani doing it. The same head of state back then who neglected the task of ibom back the doing it now isn't that funny. Stop the inane questions and dumb conspiracy theories.

Quote for you.





You elected officials are dumb along with guy you put in. The fulani Buhari does what your useless sons of soil neglected for 16 years glad you can admit it. Now that your done with history lesson tell me why your not patronizing Rivers or Onne port.

In the 16 years of PDP, How many years did Obasanjo rule.? 8years


In that 8years, did he build any international airport in the SE.? No


In Jonathan's 5years, did he build any international airport in the SE.? Yes


Now to the main questions

Why didn't Obasanjo who was the President at the time Tincan and Ibaka seaports were proposed, ensured that Ibaka was built.?



Why didn't Obasanjo build Ibaka seaport when he became a civilian President despite the issue being brought up by MASSOB then.?

Why didn't Obasanjo upgraded any airport in the SE to an international airport despite the issue being brought up by the Igbos.?






As for the case of Jonathan, Asari Dokubo , Kanu , Biafrans, NigerDeltans and even I condemn him for overlooking Ibaka.






Joeyfire pazienza Obi1kenobi



SuperS1Panther
Deji17
Masternchen
ODvanguard
OAUtemitayo

Amberon11

You've said it all.

Obi1kenobi:
There's also something I'm not getting here. Some have said Lagos accounts for most of the imports because the transport companies with their large ships prefer Lagos. Considering the massive oil tankers that ply the Eastern ports to export crude, I see no reason why those same import liners can't import through those ports. I believe this must be a routing policy issue. The Eastern ports handling export traffic are probably not equipped to simultaneously handle huge import traffic. So the Lagos ports which handle comparatively little exports are prioritized in national maritime policy to handle the bulk of imports.

Amberon11:
Your dad was very correct.

My sister has worked with two shipping companies. One in PH and she is currently working with a very big shipping company in Lagos. It is rather absurd that this op who seems to be very bereft of any knowledge concerning matters relating to freight forwarding is the one going about calling people daft.

The fact of the matter is that the seaports in most countries DO NOT even have the Onne and Rivers Ports as destinations on their list. Meaning they do not recognize them and do not ship to those destinations. That is clearly why they are mostly used for onward crude oil related shipments. From what she said , they sometimes had no problems shipping from PH but receiving was a huge problem as they would have to come in through Lagos ports. Its the same way we have several so called "international airports" in Nigeria but Turkish or Qatar airways will never land in Port Harcourt. They will only bring you in through Lagos and transit you to PH using other airlines.

Also, the Onne and Rivers Ports are shallow and won't allow for very large vessels. Only Lagos ports can accommodate such huge vessels.

Do not listen to this deluded op, ask anyone into freight forwarding to know more.

God bless you for bringing up this issue

I will tag you on other posts to show you that it was a deliberate policy started by Obasanjo to keep the whole country Dependant on Western ports



"..........The fact of the matter is that the seaports in most countries DO NOT even have the Onne and Rivers Ports as destinations on their list........" Amberon11


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Joeyfire
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Obi1kenobi
SuperS1Panther
Deji17
Masternchen
ODvanguard
OAUtemitayo


Help me and ask Blue3k if what Amberon11 wrote up which I reposted is true or not




"..........The fact of the matter is that the seaports in most countries DO NOT even have the Onne and Rivers Ports as destinations on their list..

IgboSubmarine:
[s]In the 16 years of PDP, How many years did Obasanjo rule.? 8years


In that 8years, did he build any international airport in the SE.? No


In Jonathan's 5years, did he build any international airport in the SE.? Yes


Now to the main questions

Why didn't Obasanjo who was the President at the time Tincan and Ibaka seaports were proposed, ensured that Ibaka was built.?


Why didn't Obasanjo build Ibaka seaport when he became a civilian President despite the issue being brought up by MASSOB then.?

Why didn't Obasanjo upgraded any airport in the SE to an international airport despite the issue being brought up by the Igbos.?[/s]

Yawn you must be slow if you can keeps asking same question in 100 different ways. The Millitary government was dumb simple. Your reps are useless. Buhari the same guy in Millitary rule over looked Ibaka like Obasanjo. He corrected the mistake now shut up. A fulani man did what your useless sons of soil you elected neglected to do in 16 years.

Ask again please why person x didn't do a policy you thought was good idea. Why did a who your reps and bunch of other Millitary heads neglect Ibaka? Why did Jonathan fail? Why didn't nothern coup plotters bring more economic development to north? Why are your reps useless? We can go on how day and I believe you will. Answer what's stopping you from using Onne Port.

Blue3k:
Yawn you must be slow if you can keeps asking same question in 100 different ways. The Millitary government was dumb. Your reps are useless. Buhari the same guy in Millitary rule over looked Ibaka like Obasanjo. He corrected the mistake now shut up. A fulani man did what your useless sons of soil you elected neglected to do in 16 years.

Ask again please why person x didn't do a policy you thought was good idea. Why didn't nothern coup plotters bring more economic development to north. Why are your reps useless. We can go on how day and I believe you will. Answer what's stopping you from using Onne Port.

This is the answer to your question concerning why we don't use Onne seaport



"..........The fact of the matter is that the seaports in most countries DO NOT even have the Onne and Rivers Ports as destinations on their list........" Amberon11





Amberon11 : Quote Post

Your dad was very correct.

My sister has worked with two shipping companies.

One in PH and she is currently working with a very big shipping company in Lagos.

It is rather absurd that this op who seems to be very bereft of any knowledge concerning matters relating to freight forwarding is the one going about calling people daft.


The fact of the matter is that the seaports in most countries DO NOT even have the Onne and Rivers Ports as destinations on their list.

Meaning they do not recognize them and do not ship to those destinations.

That is clearly why they are mostly used for onward crude oil related shipments.

From what she said , they sometimes had no problems shipping from PH but receiving was a huge problem as they would have to come in through Lagos ports.

Its the same way we have several so called "international airports" in Nigeria but Turkish or Qatar airways will never land in Port Harcourt.


They will only bring you in through Lagos and transit you to PH using other airlines.



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Fallacy. I will advice you get your facts right. Before crude oil exploration the largest source of revenue was oil palm from the SS and there are facts that prove this.

diadem10:
What's this one saying? What if the British built Lagos seaport? Was it from oil produce or cocoa? Before the exploration of oil, Who was the largest source of NG revenues if not the SW for their Cocoa, Timber, Limestones and Palm.. Abi dis one dey mad ni..

Btw, Ondo has huge oil in abundance. In fact, it has the second largest oil reserves after Canada. You should worry about your landlocked red mud SE first!

Blue3k. I am still waiting for you to counter the answer released by Amberon11 concerning why Onne seaport is not import oriented like that of Lagos seaport.



At least, Amberon11 is awake to counter you.



Amberon11 pls create a thread for this so that Blue3k won't keep deceiving people.




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Pls you guys should beg Blue3k to disproof Amberon11 since he is awake

IgboSubmarine:
Blue3k. I am still waiting for you to counter the answer released by Amberon11 concerning why Onne seaport is not import oriented like that of Lagos seaport.

The point is daft. So the ports are being patronized ghost abi. The people currently import these goods aren't foreign. You guys say in other threads you control the import market but don't have sway to come to Rivers port or Onne. This is very interesting.

Why wouldn't a country know about these ports. Do they not Internet connections. This is ridiculous to assert that. Are they run by guys like you who know next to nothing.

IgboSubmarine:
1) What type of non crude oil products are imported through Onne port.
Is it only machinery or all types
of goods.

IgboSubmarine:
This is the answer to your question concerning why we don't use Onne seaport



"..........The fact of the matter is that the seaports in most countries DO NOT even have the Onne and Rivers Ports as destinations on their list........" Amberon11