ObalufonIII:


At that time the King of Benin used 'Oba', keep in mind Ooni's subordinates, chiefs from Obalufe, Obalaaye, Obaloran, Obajio & other chiefs who were of lowest class all used Oba. Think about this for a minute.

It is ignorance on the path/part of these modern day kings & the media for peddling 'Oba' after the proper title of office has been stated -- E.g Ooni Ife, Oba Ogunwusi is a very stupid way to address a paramount ruler but hey the tradition moves with time.

sunsplash99:


From ur explanation here, I see u don't know anything abt the Akoko-Edos.

KingOvoramwen1:




Why didn't you go and live in Ibadan and eat oily ewedu like your kin,

Depends on your definition of love

Alexis11:



;[s]D ; D

Like I said, you are a kid and very insignificant.....

Go to that Ibadan and see how many real Edolites are doing something good with their lives.
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Alexis11:





Like I said, you are a kid and very insignificant.....

Go to that Ibadan and see how many real Edolites are doing something good with their lives.

AreaFada2:

What period in history are we talking of? How many centuries before?

Benin & Yoruba are Niger-Congo/Kwa languages? Couldn't they have developed independently, perhaps with some similarity or closeness in original root word now lost?

I think the problem with finding the truth is "my mannliness is bigger than yours" tribal positions people take.
If that is the case, why is virtually every prominent Yoruba King now using the title "Oba" from Alafin to Ooni?

In the Conference of Western Region Kings held in Benin in the 1940s, only Oba of Benin used the title Oba, while others were Awujale, Ooni, Alafin, etc. Why are they all now officially using Oba title if it is meant to be lower traditionally?

KingOvoramwen1:
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You don't understand the guy, he's a kid. The truth is, there is no way you will tell the story of any part of Edo and you won't touch at least one of the clans among the Yorubas and vice versa. Yorubas and Edos are related but different people (in reality). He saw that story in a blog, he knows it will generate controversy (normal) and already harmed with all the insults before posting it here.... Lol


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You yorubers are lost and you know it

You have no history

You have no documented time of events

You existence starts and ends with Oduduwa , who was a Prince from the Great Benin Kingdom

Stop acting like a zombie and beg the Great Oba of Benin to tell you all about the people Izoduwa met in ife


Igbo orunmila was ruled by the Benins hence the title of the ruler Ogienerimo

SoldierBoy1:
This nairaland breeds hatred filled people, because I never knew of Edo guys having problems with Yorubas until I saw comments on nairaland. I have a lot of edo boys in school as friends and we are close guys, but then it seems the version of human beings on NL is different. Though I respect some guys here.

ademijuwonlo:
In Yoruba we have "Oloye" (chiefs) and they can be further identified based on their portfolios e.g Balogun, iyaloja, Otunba etc. They can be called by Oloye as well as by their official title that signify their positions but note that they are Oloyes irrespective of their titles. The Oba word shows that the king reigns over his domain while Alafin , Ooni, Alake etc are the titles for the Oba seats in their domains.

KingOvoramwen1:



You yorubers claim Igbo's hate you, Edo's hate you, urhobo hates you, ..... But have you sat down one day to reflect on what you people are doing that might disgust others?

SoldierBoy1:
I never said any tribe hates Yorubas, I only said it's only on nairaland I see guys manifesting hatred for other tribes.

KingOvoramwen1:



Lol where you trying to make a point out of all you wrote up there?...... Lmao gosh you should not have even typed at all

KingOvoramwen1:



You yorubers claim Igbo's hate you, Edo's hate you, urhobo hates you, ..... But have you sat down one day to reflect on what you people are doing that might disgust others?

SoldierBoy1:
I never said any tribe hates Yorubas, I only said it's only on nairaland I see guys manifesting hatred for other tribes.

Alexis11:


Hahahahaha....

Now this is funny! I've never seen any Yoruba man dead or alive that said this.

Wait, why am I hearing this from you first

OoduaLeke:



lol wetin concern Ijebus with them, Ijebus only reply to serious issues, not fabus.
the article is not new, he just copied and pasted it directly from Joshua project, which in turn quoted a very old literature by itegboje the etsakor man.

KingOvoramwen1:


Yes because like said earlier you yorubers jump on every thread when its very obvious your inputs are neither wanted or needed!

scholes0:


lol, he is here formulating cock and bull story based on the state of his own mind. He is projecting the state of his own mind about Yorubas to other tribes, as well as to Yorubas themselves.
saying "Yorubas said" or are complaining of being hated, when in actuality no Yoruba ever said such. looool

Nairaland na waa.

jojothaiv:
Shout out to Homeboiy!


Na him mouth I first hear the tori!

Homeboiy:



baba iam late oo


I was away for some days

jojothaiv:

walahi you no late, just try read wetin the Op write, na d exact thing wey u talk 4 1 thread na him d Op elaborate o!

scholes0:


So why are they marginalized in Edo?
They are clearly not being accepted (Well, at least not in full).

You claim they have no kin there, I believe you are talking as an outsider. The average Akoko Edo man is more comfortable as a man, in Oka Akoko or Ido Ani, than he is in Benin. We have many Akoko Edos living here already, and they blend in perfectly with absolutely 0 issues.

KingOvoramwen1:
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Akpan the houseboy how are you? Haha haha

Fuvck out of here my friend and go and wash plates



You are more advanced but you Stay , live and even Breath Benin Air

Advanced in Houseboyism [/s]

AreaFada2:

Ok. I take moving with the times as the key message.

I also think the "universality" of the word Oba has increased its attractiveness in Yorubaland. Oba became a stand alone superior title after Ogiso era in Benin. Pre-Eweka I it was Oba-Godo as Ogiso, from Eweka it became Oba. I believe the other matter is that there was no other ruler called Oba as a title within core Benin territory or areas that originally came under Benin rule. The lesser title Enogie (mostly princely dukes, Oba's younger brothers/younger sons made provincial rulers) & chiefs (Ogie) were devolved to those people.

For example, in Esanland, Onoje are the normal titles of traditional rulers there. Orodje, Ovie & other titles in Urhobo land. The first Olu of Warri (Prince Ginuwa of Benin) only got the title "Ogiame" or Lord/ruler of the Seas from his father Oba Olua when leaving Benin.

That set the title Oba apart long ago already among Edoid people. Whereas Oba title seems ubiquitous in Yorubaland. The Yoruba who sees many Baales turned Obas everywhere in Yorubaland may not readily realise the singular significance of it in Benin.

einsteine:
You are clearly the outsider here.

My mom is from there and I don't understand where you got your narrative of marginalization from.

Don't they have someone representing them at the Federal House of Representation? Haven't they held top positions both nationally and in Edo State?

Only an outsider would keep saying Akoko Edo and Akoko in Edo State have anything to do with each other. They are just neighbors, that's all. As neighbors, many have learnt the yoruba language and even adopted Yoruba names. It doesn't mean they are Yorubas. Go to Somorika, Uneme Nekhua or Igarra and tell me their language is Yoruba or they are kin to Yorubas. There is a village called Sobe on the road from Akure to Benin. Are they Akures because they are close to Akure and can speak Yoruba?

Kindly explain details of the marginalization you keep talking about.

scholes0:

Kindly explain details of the marginalization you keep talking about.


You are clearly the outsider here.

My mom is from there and I don't understand where you got your narrative of marginalization from.

Don't they have someone representing them at the Federal House of Representation? Haven't they held top positions both nationally and in Edo State?

Only an outsider would keep saying Akoko Edo and Akoko in Edo State have anything to do with each other. They are just neighbors, that's all. As neighbors, many have learnt the yoruba language and even adopted Yoruba names. It doesn't mean they are Yorubas. Go to Somorika, Uneme Nekhua or Igarra and tell me their language is Yoruba or they are kin to Yorubas. There is a village called Sobe on the road from Akure to Benin. Are they Akures because they are close to Akure and can speak Yoruba?

Kindly explain details of the marginalization you keep talking about.

First and foremost, stop the BS! the fact that your mother hails from there does not mean you are versed in the people, their desires and their aspirations, nor does it mean you know much about them.
You are clearly the outsider here, because if you were really connected you would now that Akoko Edos complain bitterly of marginalization and lack of development/attention from government.
Did you even read the first page of this thread, a girl there mentioned that they are marginalized and you are asking how? maybe you should ask them why they feel as such, especially since your other's relatives would be able to answer you effectively.

Somorika and Uneme speak their languages as well as Yoruba / pidgin as languages of wider communication. Igarra does the same except that their local language is a dialect of Ebira. If were to go purely by language I think we better start getting ready to make Igarra a Kogi state enclave in Edo state then, abi na? The Ijaws and Itsekiri lands in Edo should be transferred to Delta.

Secondly, Sobe is not close to Akure, Sobe is close to Owo, and even closer to Ifon. they speak a language similar to owan dialects as well as Yoruba language. I won't call them Yorubas unless they call themselves such. Ethnic identity is fluid and subject to influences. They are not Akures either. Akure is not an ethnic group, Akures are Ekitis culturally.
That area is part of the Ondo-Edo border region, and there are influences from both in the entire area as well.

einsteine:
Since your reply was devoid of specifics as to how the people in Akoko Edo are being marginalized, there is no need to continue this discussion any further.

Keep continuing with your faulty notion that Akoko Edos are supposed to be in Ondo State.

That kid is very messed up in the head with inferiority complex you better just troll or ignore this rubbish he types

einsteine:
Since your reply was devoid of specifics as to how the people in Akoko Edo are being marginalized, there is no need to continue this discussion any further.

Keep continuing with your faulty notion that Akoko Edos are supposed to be in Ondo State.

It is alarming to note that this is not a systemic approach at neglecting one of the oldest local government councils in the country. If, we from the South-South are shouting of marginalization and neglect in the entity called Nigeria, what the state government has done to Akoko-Edo is worse than the neglect of Niger-Delta region over the year. It is common knowledge that Akoko-Edo is well endowed with mineral resources and arable land for agricultural plantation products. The mineral resources are currently being extracted and shipped out of the area to develop other parts of the state and country. This is similar to what is presently happening in the oil-producing areas of Niger-Delta.

It is the opinion of Akoko-Edo citizens in the diaspora that Akoko-Edo as one of the oldest councils in Nigeria and the least developed in infrastructure or commercially requires urgent attention by Comrade Oshiomhole and the incoming government to open up the area. This will reverse the neglect and forestall potential uprising as being witnessed in the Niger-Delta creeks where the youths have taken to arms to call attention to the plight of their people.

The issues as I see them are these: No Akoko - Edo person nay Igarra has ever been senator in the history of the senatorial district and that is serious; conservatively you need at least the sum of Three Hundred Million Naira to get to the Senate unfortunately again; the hard work begins after you are elected senator; you need men of influence and power to get things done for your constituency at whatever level how much more the senate in a country where the already scarce resources are surreptitiously deployed to build personal empires and fiefdoms; the only thing constant in life is change and men do change for good or for worse; Victor Hugo wrote "a man is not idle because he is absorbed in thought. There is a visible labour and there is an invisible labour"; no privileged class ever lets power go on a platter; it must be wrestled from their grip; Akoko - Edo is the oldest Local Government Area in Nigeria today; other local divisions in the old Midwest State are now 2 - 3 Local Government Areas.

Akoko – Edo Local Government Area was one of the original divisions created in the old Midwest State for administrative convenience in 1963. It is disheartening that all other divisions have since metamorphosed into two or three Local Government Areas, even the State has since become two, with the Deltans taking their fate in their own hands when history beckoned in 1992 and today they have the “big heart” where their dreams and aspirations in the old Bendel State find expression, while Akoko – Edo remains one.

Akoko – Edo has only undergone change once, when in 1967 the Midwest became Bendel State it was re christened Akoko – Edo Local Government Area from the earlier nomenclature (Akoko – Edo Local Division) with which it was known. Apart from this Akoko – Edo remains the only Local Government Area in the federation that has remained pristine since independence. The consequence of this is that Akoko – Edo has been much marginalized. A clear example of this marginalization is this Senatorial seat issue.
The mosaic I will paint now is a model of what has happened to the Akoko – Edo people in every facet of their existence in a State and Nation they call their own.

Akoko-Edo is the largest, is the most marginalised and probably the most impoverished local government in Nigeria and it will continue to be like that until we change its configuration and the only way to do is to create additional local governments.

babaolofin:
I am still interested in the location of Igbo Orunmila in the present Ijebu Land. If Osemawe & Ebumawe were twins and now Osemawe is the ruler of Ondo Kingdom while Ebumawe is just ruler of AgoIwoye in Ijebu land, we need to know the history of Ijebu Igbo, a town close to AgoIwoye. Igbo Orunmila might be around this area. Is Ebumawe subordinate to Awujale? Ijebus should tell us & why?