kaboninc:


All through, we have seen how ravens help to deliver messages. Secondly, dragons are way smarter, have stronger ability to perception and could sense dangers far far from them. If you could remember where Danny was attacked by the slavers and how her dragon came to help or even each time the dragon had responded to anyone who tried to harm her. Why then do you think the dragons won't locate Jon and his crew?

Besides, these are fantasies.

Dragons arent real men this movie is just a fantasy all this fault finding is useless

I really think there's something we're missing when it comes to the death of Little Finger.

Firstly the author gave us the impression of Little Finger being smart, a con, selfish and evil. But that does not mean he's the smart or wisest or the best in his game. And not one person would be able to defeat him.

Talking about Sansa and Arya, they were all witnesses to the death of their father and almost everyone who played a role in it. Sansa knew so much but she was a kid, still entrapped in her fairly wishes. Arya was busy developing her skills to be a warrior. They knew LF was very smart and no matter how smart you are, you'll always have a weak spot. The weak spot of LF was Sansa.

So his death was epic to me. A master caught in his own game. Arya could have fought him and killed him within seconds. He could have been poisoned. But they had to bring the accusations against him so he'll know he has been beaten.

pu7pl3:





Dragons arent real men this movie is just a fantasy all this fault finding is useless

So sea the movie for what it is, a fantasy. And dragons have the these abilities in a fantasy world.

kaboninc:


So sea the movie for what it is, a fantasy. And dragons have the these abilities in a fantasy world.

I dunno y people keep looking for faults in the storytelling

DonroxyII:
U don't know me, what turn everybody on in a movie differs .... GOT is one of the best movie out there nonetheless some cheap scenes!!

If an actor poorly executed a scene or a producer poorly deliver a scene, The entire movie can become ridiculous to me .... There is no perfect movie but I love my favourite movies to be adequately delivered and not just delievered as if a five year old boy is watching cartoon !!!

That's why I don't do Nollywood but comedy, GhanaWood, KoreanWood and IndiaWood ...........

It is all about HollyWood , Just Hollywood !!!

I love Hollywood too,

and I watch their movies cause of their stories not perfect scenes, cause movies with wack stories could have a perfect way of delivering on their scenes,

nobody is perfect, we're all human and I think you should watch movies to be entertained not for satisfying your craving for perfection, cause you would always find flaws

Rorachy:
As in eh, the thing tire me, its not like we can produce any series that interesting.

Nollywood get series sef,

and the thing is just annoying, cause if this fault finders take their time to watch a nollywood movie, they will probably write a book on the flaws in the movie

SamzackD:


I love Hollywood too,

and I watch their movies cause of their stories not perfect scenes, cause movies with wack stories could have a perfect way of delivering on their scenes,

nobody is perfect, we're all human and I think you should watch movies to be entertained not for satisfying your craving for perfection, cause you would always find flaws

No, that is why we human are different , we watch something for different reasons ..... Don't just accept what is delievered to you, always air you view on better ways by which it could be done .... I just aired my view!!!

Sultan5:


Erm concerning the build up to the LF scene, lets just agreed to disagree don't want to type more on that.

Like I said Jon was hoping, you know in desperate times hope reign supreme. He was hoping to get an isolated wight and he was lucky enough to succeed on that front but failed to prevent the damn thing from alerting the herd. That was what messed everything up.

I knew what you were against and I said Jon made his choice not to lie and we all have to live with it.

And for your last point, these things are matters of the heart. The man she loved if I can say that was in trouble and could possibly die. Also she knew the importance of the mission, wanted it accomplished and probably wanted to see for herself. And its also possible she just came just to save Mr Friend Zone I think putting all this together would be solid reasons enough.

But she definitely won't just go for sight seeing in the north, just because her crush said she should. She has a war to win, kingdom to conquer and a throne to sit on. Jon knew this thats why he didn't even bother asking. And she didn't even believe the WW existed self, yes she was tempted to but she didn't really. And the raven wasn't from an untrusted source, Jon, Dany and Tyrion are not dumb they would have agreed on a sign, symbol or something to use to verify the source.

I have a lot of counter points but let's just agree to diasgree.

pu7pl3:





He admitted to the mistake nd gave his reason for it... he just cudnt lie (he made a good point)

Open another thread for breaking bad then

Breaking Bad ended eons ago. Perhaps I'd open a Better Call Saul thread instead.

pu7pl3:




Thank u bro my thoghts exactly... people keep looking for plot holes in an amazing show nd forget to enjoy the effort the actors are puttn in


I used to be like that till i realized even my countrys film makers cant do what they do

Naijapeople share, GOT is a great show and we ain't finding fault ..... why do u guys find criticism as fault ..... if u check Google , u wud see many criticism of even the best and baddest movies even highest watched movies ......

Na wa for u guys oooo ..... GOT is sha more advanced than what was delievered in last episodes sha!!!

I use to find 24 and PrisonBreak to be perfect TVseries, but when one of my guy reviewed the movies for me, I was amazed !!!

Reviewing ain't a crime , it is just to uncover producers hide n seek and suggest better ways for doing things !!

kaboninc:


If Danny and her crew wins, the whole of the Seven Kingdoms will be theirs. They've conquerd the Night King and will focus all their energy in getting armies. Besides, who wouldn't want to bow to someone who shows a remarkable victory.

You saw how the Dothraki hordes bowed to Danny? Is it that someone can't throw a sword and it hits her?

What armies would they get? They obviously would've rallied all their bodies against the undead army while Cersie would be preparing hers.
Also, the Golden company mercenaries Cersie intends to buy are one of the finest if not the finest in their world. They are very skilled, powerful and large and consists of elephants. So the battle between these two could go either way.
If i bring in the Euron Greyjoy factor(he's definitely more skilled and smarter than Dany and Snow), then it favours Cersie obviously. Not forgetting Euron may possess the dragonbinder.
Finally, Cersie's got Qyburns scorpion and wildfire. With all these its all doom for Dany and Jon bro.

NerdSciBot:
What armies would they get? They obviously would've rallied all their bodies against the undead army while Cersie would be preparing hers.
Also, the Golden company mercenaries Cersie intends to buy are one of the finest if not the finest in their world. They are very skilled, powerful and large and consists of elephants. So the battle between these two could go either way.
If i bring in the Euron Greyjoy factor(he's definitely more skilled and smarter than Dany and Snow), then it favours Cersie obviously. Not forgetting Euron may possess the dragonbinder.
Finally, Cersie's got Qyburns scorpion and wildfire. With all these its all doom for Dany and Jon bro.

Euron greyjoy isn't smarter or more skilled than Jon snow....euron is good at fighting in the sea only..he isn't that good on the land...And since dany still has 2 dragons,she will always has advantage over cersei...the dothraki and unsullied are more skilled than lannister army.....And cersei doesn't has skilled fighter like Jon snow,jorah mormont on her side..am sure the hound,beric dondarrion and co might join dany/Jon forces

NerdSciBot:
What armies would they get? They obviously would've rallied all their bodies against the undead army while Cersie would be preparing hers.
Also, the Golden company mercenaries Cersie intends to buy are one of the finest if not the finest in their world. They are very skilled, powerful and large and consists of elephants. So the battle between these two could go either way.
If i bring in the Euron Greyjoy factor(he's definitely more skilled and smarter than Dany and Snow), then it favours Cersie obviously. Not forgetting Euron may possess the dragonbinder.
Finally, Cersie's got Qyburns scorpion and wildfire. With all these its all doom for Dany and Jon bro.

This is a better way to critic the movie and not about finding fault.

Well, one act of supernatural display could just turn the tide.

For now, we don't know if Theon Greyjoy is going to be successful. Besides its a big big world and Westeros is but one continent. The Golden Company could be one mercenary. There could be more. As we felt LF was the smartest, Golden Company may not be the finest after all

Talius:

Impossible. She lost her three children and is still as formidable as ever. Jaimie can die at her hands and she'll still do the needful.

Lol.... Do the needful! As in kill herself?

snowstormm:
Euron greyjoy isn't smarter or more skilled than Jon snow....euron is good at fighting in the sea only..he isn't that good on the land...And since dany still has 2 dragons,she will always has advantage over cersei...the dothraki and unsullied are more skilled than lannister army.....And cersei doesn't has skilled fighter like Jon snow,jorah mormont on her side..am sure the hound,beric dondarrion and co might join dany/Jon forces

Cercei not fighting makes he seem the smartest and wisest.

Theon defeated someone with having his balls. We still have Yara. We just don't know. But one thing is certain, the enemy can't win really.

Personally, I think this is a story of Jon Snow.

JhyMedex:

our very own Queen of Thorns....
missed u too ur Grace....

The Queen greets you. How far na, You dey kill ram tomorrow?

kaboninc:


Cercei not fighting makes he seem the smartest and wisest.

Theon defeated someone with having his balls. We still have Yara. We just don't know. But one thing is certain, the enemy can't win really.

Personally, I think this is a story of Jon Snow.

I think jon snow will win both war but will die in the end as a hero....the producer doesn't want the battle to be one sided that's why they are portraying as one smart motherfucker but we all know dany will be the Queen in the end

kaboninc:


This is a better way to critic the movie and not about finding fault.

Well, one act of supernatural display could just turn the tide.

For now, we don't know if Theon Greyjoy is going to be successful. Besides its a big big world and Westeros is but one continent. The Golden Company could be one mercenary. There could be more. As we felt LF was the smartest, Golden Company may not be the finest after all

Finding faults are part of criticism. You can go to reddit or quora and you'll find mine as child's play.
About the Golden company, you can read the books or a simple search on the internet.

Gbola5:


That scene was Rhaegar and Elia naming the newborn Aegon. But the OP says the name of the prince that was promised should be Aegon. When Aegon is only a name Rhaegar chooses to name his son due to the name's legacy. My post asks for evidence of where it was written that TPTWP should be named Aegon.
Take note. He mentions "There must be one more", which is why he eloped with Lyanna.

how can we be certain that it was ellia and not lyanna? The P.O.V was danny and at that time, even now, she wouldn't be able to tell ellia from lyanna, both were rhaegar's wife at a time, both were looking frail and wispy from a hard childbirth or was the color of the boys hair and eyes stated perchance?

DonroxyII:
Naijapeople share, GOT is a great show and we ain't finding fault ..... why do u guys find criticism as fault ..... if u check Google , u wud see many criticism of even the best and baddest movies even highest watched movies ......

Na wa for u guys oooo ..... GOT is sha more advanced than what was delievered in last episodes sha!!!

I use to find 24 and PrisonBreak to be perfect TVseries, but when one of my guy reviewed the movies for me, I was amazed !!!

Reviewing ain't a crime , it is just to uncover producers hide n seek and suggest better ways for doing things !!

I know all about reviews nd criticism but all im saying is at a time it will become toomuch nd boring... there re people that havnt watched it nd reading all this is discouraging for them

NerdSciBot:
Breaking Bad ended eons ago. Perhaps I'd open a Better Call Saul thread instead.

Yh do that

NerdSciBot:
Finding faults are part of criticism. You can go to reddit or quora and you'll find mine as child's play.
About the Golden company, you can read the books or a simple search on the internet.

It still can be defeated

kaboninc:
I really think there's something we're missing when it comes to the death of Little Finger.

Firstly the author gave us the impression of Little Finger being smart, a con, selfish and evil. But that does not mean he's the smart or wisest or the best in his game. And not one person would be able to defeat him.

Talking about Sansa and Arya, they were all witnesses to the death of their father and almost everyone who played a role in it. Sansa knew so much but she was a kid, still entrapped in her fairly wishes. Arya was busy developing her skills to be a warrior. They knew LF was very smart and no matter how smart you are, you'll always have a weak spot. The weak spot of LF was Sansa.

So his death was epic to me. A master caught in his own game. Arya could have fought him and killed him within seconds. He could have been poisoned. But they had to bring the accusations against him so he'll know he has been beaten.

One thing people are forgetting is that Bran played more role in Little finger's death than arya and sansa put together. ... remember he (bran) was the one that gave arya the dagger that was used to kill him( LF) to arya....

Bran sees everything (past and present)


Chaos is indeed a ladder

DonroxyII:
Naijapeople share, GOT is a great show and we ain't finding fault ..... why do u guys find criticism as fault ..... if u check Google , u wud see many criticism of even the best and baddest movies even highest watched movies ......

Na wa for u guys oooo ..... GOT is sha more advanced than what was delievered in last episodes sha!!!

I use to find 24 and PrisonBreak to be perfect TVseries, but when one of my guy reviewed the movies for me, I was amazed !!!

Reviewing ain't a crime , it is just to uncover producers hide n seek and suggest better ways for doing things !!

Yeah, it's good to critic and one this is to find fault and another is to tear into pieces the great works.

For all we know, it an imaginary world created in the mind of the creator. He determines who lives and who died and what happens to who.

Personally I never liked some things but if these things do not happen, there won't be a story to tell.

Everyone in reddit and quora can say one thing but it doesn't make it right. It's enjoyable but it's still his work.

snowstormm:
Euron greyjoy isn't smarter or more skilled than Jon snow....euron is good at fighting in the sea only..he isn't that good on the land...And since dany still has 2 dragons,she will always has advantage over cersei...the dothraki and unsullied are more skilled than lannister army.....And cersei doesn't has skilled fighter like Jon snow,jorah mormont on her side..am sure the hound,beric dondarrion and co might join dany/Jon forces

Dude, don't go there. In the books, Euron is way smarter and stronger and cunning. He's achieved major feats than Jon. In the show, the fight between he and the sand snakes showed his strength on 1v1 combat. These same sand snakes defeated Bronn in Dorne and Jon's combat skill isn't at par with Bronn.
Jon has had his ass bested in the show severally. Ramsay outdid him in the battle of the bastards only for Sansa to save him. He was almost defeated by Ygritte until Olly saved him. He was killed by his men until Melisandre brought back to life. He nearly died this season until Benjen saved him.
On 1v1 combats, he was bested by Karl Tanner until a wildling saved him. He was overwhelmed by Styr if not for the hammer he had close. So in all Euron and Jon ain't mates bro.

As for the dragons, we've seen they are vulnerable. And if Euron's dragonbinder comes to play? I can't say any further.

Finally, the unsullied and the dothraki are at best at par with the Golden company mercenaries. So it's all balanced.

kaboninc:

It still can be defeated

I never said they couldn't.

Cybertext:



One thing people are forgetting is that Bran played more role in Little finger's death than arya and sansa put together. ... remember he (bran) was the one that gave arya the dagger that was used to kill him( LF) to arya....

Bran sees everything (past and present)


Chaos is indeed a ladder

Well I don't know to what extent but I know very much that Sansa has been looking forward to this day ever since her eyes open and the death of her aunt.

But then Bran's "chaos is a ladder" was a reminder that they knew his role in death of their father.

NerdSciBot:
Dude, don't go there. In the books, Euron is way smarter and stronger and cunning. He's achieved major feats than Jon. In the show, the fight between he and the sand snakes showed his strength on 1v1 combat. These same sand snakes defeated Bronn in Dorne and Jon's combat skill isn't at par with Bronn.
Jon has had his ass bested in the show severally. Ramsay outdid him in the battle of the bastards only for Sansa to save him. He was almost defeated by Ygritte until Olly saved him. He was killed by his men until Melisandre brought back to life. He nearly died this season until Benjen saved him.
On 1v1 combats, he was bested by Karl Tanner until a wildling saved him. He was overwhelmed by Styr if not for the hammer he had close. So in all Euron and Jon ain't mates bro.

As for the dragons, we've seen they are vulnerable. And if Euron's dragonbinder comes to play? I can't say any further.

Finally, the unsullied and the dothraki are at best at par with the Golden company mercenaries. So it's all balanced.

Lol. It's funny saying that Euron ain't mate.

Jon is much more smarter and braver than Euron. Euron rebelled against his brother and after defeat, went into exile. Came back and killed his brother.

Jon Snow united the Wildlings with the Northern. He brought men with different tribes together and made them understand that the all have a common enemy. That one single act of Jon dwarfs all achievements Euron has ever achieved.

NerdSciBot:
Your first paragraph was just as comical and ignorant as it could get. GoT is a very good show but it's no where near BB. Got relies heavily on character deaths and fantasies and juxtaposed plotlines which apparently is giving them problems to execute.
Their characters are amazing(especially the dead ones) but poorly developed. And also too many plot holes (dornish plot in season 6 was just very silly)
BB on the other hand had amazing characters, well developed, crazy twists, adrenaline rush, top notch cinematography and never had half the hype Got had nor did they kill characters off easily. BB shìts on Got in plotting and writing, and IMBD ratings can attest to this.
And i never compared Got to vikings, i said if Got was on AMC like Breaking bad, it would be on Vikings level in terms of popularity.

Secondly, Cersie is as narcissistic as one can be. The same Cersie that nearly poisoned herself and her kids during the battle of blackwater? Cersie would lose both ways if she agreed to the alliance and Tyrion on a good day should know this as a fact. So the best decision was obviously never going to be an alliance. It's up to Dany to choose between ending Cersie or fighting with Jon.

1) yep. you clearly just hate game of thrones. poorly developed characters? really? in game of thrones? jaime lannister alone has gone through as much development as Walter white and he isn't even the protagonist. plot holes in game of thrones? please humour me, give me examples.
literally everything you mentioned praising breaking bad is literally ever present in game of thrones. I mean... cinematography? really? it's not even a debate. game of thrones has literally changed the game in terms of how series are to be viewed.
and every character death in game of thrones has so far been necessary to advance the plot and establish one of its prevailing themes that no one is safe.
and how the hell is the dorne storyline a plothole?
your opinion on game of thrones popularity is just that, an opinion.

they both have the same IMBD rating (9.5) meanwhile game of thrones has a higher fresh rating than breaking bad on rotten tomatoes. lol.
breaking bad isn't even the best series of its kind (i.e. drugs). the wire completely out classes it.

breaking bad is merely a great series. game of thrones has transcended that to become a cultural phenomenon world wide.

2) smh. it appears complicated plot lines and character motives are beyond your comprehension. a real shame tbh.

cersei trying to poison her son instead of herself during the battle of black water only goes further to prove MY POINT. stannis was going to win to the best of everyone's knowledge and stannis not only hates the lannisters but was also known for burning his enemies alive. that was her son's fate hence she specifically sought a means to give her son a painless death while risking being burnt alive herself. that is literally the definition of putin family first as she tries to do on a normal day.

and again, an alliance with them is the best move. even jaime could see that. cause if the night king wins, she has lost but if there is an alliance, with her resources, army and weaponry (e.g. dragon fire) they stand a better chance of winning after which she could be in a better position to negotiate as jaime suggested. her refusal to ally herself only works if danny wins which is nigh impossible considering the size of the wight army.

BraniacX:
how can we be certain that it was ellia and not lyanna? The P.O.V was danny and at that time, even now, she wouldn't be able to tell ellia from lyanna, both were rhaegar's wife at a time, both were looking frail and wispy from a hard childbirth or was the color of the boys hair and eyes stated perchance?

"There must be another one, the dragon has three heads" Because he says this. If the woman and the babe were Lyanna and Jon, he wouldn't be puzzled.

You might counterargue by saying it was Dany(because she is definitely a head) he was referring, but if the babe is newborn(close to Robert's Rebellion, Jon or Aegon), Rhaegar wouldn't have known of Dany being born, because she was conceived at the last stages of the war. The time line wouldn't fit with "There must be another one, the dragon has three heads".

If that still doesn't convince you, Rhaegar was dead before Jon was born. Remember Lyanna was found in her bed of blood(she had just given birth). So there would be no time for the vision Dany sees. Remember Ned heads to the Tower of Joy after the Trident, after Robert takes King's Landing, after the Mountain kills Elia and her children, after the siege at Storm's End, after the battle at ToJ. That's why the vision makes sense to have been Elia and baby Aegon.

NerdSciBot:
I never said they couldn't.

Good.

NerdSciBot:
Still not getting it. As at the time they were initiating that reckless plan, Cersie's army had been gravely depleted and none of them knew of Cersie's plan to buy mercenaries. So in view, they had no reason to suggest an alliance with a few lannister men. Euron greyjoy and the ironborn ain't all that on land so they don't count.


Ultimately, Jon was stūpid to agree to that plan and Tyrion was also stûpid to think Cersie was ever gonna agree to their alliance as he knew the kind of sister he had.

cersei's army was not gravely depleted as you suggest. they had enough as shown to defend king's landing which is danny ' s end game.
why the hell would they not know she could buy mercenaries? she had literally just acquired a freaking gold mine.
euron greyjoy doesn't matter because he's on the sea? really? despite the fact that it's been established since the battle of blackwater as well as in Tyrion ' s plans that the best and only feasible way to take king's landing is from the sea hence the importance of their own alliance with theon's sister.

like I said, complicated plot lines just don't seem to be for you. you should probably stick to vampire diaries or whatever CW is doing these days.