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The Evolution Theory is based on actual evidence. The Adam and Eve (in the Bible and Qur'an) story has zero evidence and is based on belief/faith... which basically means "I have no evidence but you must believe me".

MiddleDimension:
As an atheist, Evolution, though there are still some gaps in our understanding of the universe and the foundation of all life, offers a far richer and more meaningful explanation of life in general, than any other alternative narative there is. OK

You only need to look at the species in different parts of the world, the fossils of extinct versions of current species as well as those of species that are non existent anymore we've got. You also need to look up on the genetic codes of different species we have at our disposal to be able to understand that evolution is actually a far truer explanation of life.

But what do you think? What are your veiws on evolution? What are your reservations if you've got any? Let us have a meaningful discussion. No insults, etc.

@Algerian1 you are welcome in here too.

Evolution is a biological and natural process in which an organism develop from a simple to a complex form. This can be proven with our current technology but evolution doesn't explain how we (homo sapiens) came into being. I think our present biodiversity is a product of evolution and cosmic interferences. That's my take

KingSango:
Evolution is a false theory because no one can explain how they have dug up civilizations that are more advanced than the modern. There's a book called, "Hidden Archaeology", and it contains facts about finds of artifacts, tools, etc, so exquisite in design, so sophisticated that no so called primitive culture could ever fashion. The Europeans are immature they find something that makes their existence seem so unimportant so they just hide it. Europeans destroy cultures, burn books, and hide ancient knowledge all the time. The Romans hide the Flat Earth for centuries. They also hide Astrology by using their Bible to declare it heretic all the while using Astrology. If you want my opinion, as a reformed Atheist, once you see juju work it throws out all the laws of physics. Matter doesn't exist my friend, just like its said among the Vedic Astrology, Hinduism, Egyptians, the world is an illusion. The world has been here for unlimit amount of time, many, many, cycles of creation and destruction. Many people in cults at the highest levels know all I'm telling you the truth. Don't make up your mind until you have searched, searched, and searched. Don't rule nothing out just because its looks or sound ridiculous. Ase. Love, Sango.

you are saying the earth is flat?

NubiLove:
The Evolution Theory is based on actual evidence. The Adam and Eve (in the Bible and Qur'an) story has zero evidence and is based on belief/faith... which basically means "I have no evidence but you must believe me".

The Bible we know is fiction but the same people that gave you the Bilbe gave you Evolution Thoery. How come we do not accept ancient West African cosmology and evolution theories? And are we really evolving, or going through endless cycles of time, with up and down intervals, with two dimensions of spirit and physical world? The Gods are real, juju is real, astrology also works, alchemy also works, prayers work, divination works, and so many realms of talent that these Eurasians have taught us lies. We can feed ourselves but we starve. Thats spiritual death, now awaken. Ase, ase, ase, ooo!

evolution is probably the driving force behind everything that happens in our world today, the reason why people choose certain religions, the reason why countries go to war.

@ifenes,

Where did you read that humans evolved from apes? I have read so many books on Evolution and there is no such thing written there...........

@KingSango,

If matter does not exist, how do people's cheeks swell after they receive slaps?

@Goodmuyis,

If you think that evolution is about humans growing wings, then it is obvious that you don't understand it!!!

ubenedictus, joagbaje, donnie, seun, sagamite and fratermathy you all can come in here and let us know what you think

@Hier,

Have you noticed that the Bolivians usually win World cup qualifiers in La Paz against Brazil and Argentina? The Brazilians struggle, the Argentines struggle but the Bolivians don't!!! La Paz, the Bolivian capital is located at a very high altitude where oxygen levels are so low!!! After so many generations of Bolivians living at that high attitude, the haemoglobin evolves,changes in such a way that it can absorb high amounts of oxygen where low levels of oxygen exist!!! But their opponents whose haemoglobin did not evolve to absorb high levels of oxygen where low levels of oxygen exist will always struggle!!!

This is an example of Evolution(anyone who tells you Evolution is about humans growing chicken wings might be an ignorant slowpoke or a fool, or even both, I advice you to ignore them)!!!

In 1993, the Brazilian squad that eventually won the World Cup, played a World Cup Qualifier in La Paz and lost 2-0!!! But in the return leg in Brazil, they one 6-0!!!

Bolivians have evolved to have little to no breathing problems in high altitudes were the oxygen level is low!!!

Niflheim:
@ifenes,

Where did you read that humans evolved from apes? I have read so many books on Evolution and there is no such thing written there...........

@KingSango,

If matter does not exist, how do people's cheeks swell after they receive slaps?

@Goodmuyis,

If you think that evolution is about humans growing wings, then it is obvious that you don't understand it!!!

Matter doesn't exist my brother, it doesn't. Matter is the because you perceive it and you can't help it because you have been conditioned not only by your parents, environment but centuries of bloodline conditioning, i.e karma. And I know karma is an Indian word but the original Naga, were Africans, who left East Africa and migrated to the land now known as Egypt. The Southern Indians, who are very dark in complexion with kinky hair, they are the oldest branch of Kriya Yoga, and they give their origin for all their knowledge as Egypt. That's right Ancient Black Egyptians were the founders of India. The library of Alexandria had all the knowledge of Ancient Egypt. A Greek conqueror of Egypt wanted all the priests to initiate him as a God they refused so he closed all the temples and collected all their manuals and books. This contained all the knowledge of their civilization, the world's oldest, going back for 4 Sun cycles, which is 4 times 25, 000 years, so 100,000 years. The library was burned to the ground by invading Arabs and Greeks. The world doesn't evolve instead it goes through cycles of ages, Golden Ages, Silver Ages, Bronze Ages and Iron Ages, we are currently in the Kali Yuga the lowest age, the Iron age. Aren't we constantly experience Ogun? War, war, war, within every society, and sometime within the human being, the war between good and evil, between the Orisha and the Ajogun. You know so little stop being so closed minded please. You haven't been initiated in anything order so you can't know what I just told you. Ase. Love, Sango.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adrwP7m4gIY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUyqfUut8lA

MiddleDimension:
As an atheist, Evolution, though there are still some gaps in our understanding of the universe and the foundation of all life, offers a far richer and more meaningful explanation of life in general, than any other alternative narative there is.

You only need to look at the species in different parts of the world, the fossils of extinct versions of current species as well as those of species that are non existent anymore we've got. You also need to look up on the genetic codes of different species we have at our disposal to be able to understand that evolution is actually a far truer explanation of life.

But what do you think? What are your veiws on evolution? What are your reservations if you've got any? Let us have a meaningful discussion. No insults, etc.

@Algerian1 you are welcome in here too.

I believe into the evolution of automobiles.
It all started with monocycles which after Millon's of years became bicycles. After several million years, a specific bicycle known as Raleigh Bicycle developed engines so the motorcycles came on scene. After several more million years, some motorcycles evolved into tricycles of which keke NAPEP evolved into the first Ford motorcars and later Tractors, SUVs and Trailers evolved.

The proof is in the similarity of their DNA. You will note that all have wheels made up of synthetic rubber and steal or aluminium. Evolution of automobiles actually show that they were not man made or designed but through millions of years, they happen to be. This is the most logical explanation for the origin of the Lexus 300 is use.

shadeyinka:
I believe into the evolution of automobiles.
It all started with monocycles which after Millon's of years became bicycles. After several million years, a specific bicycle known as Raleigh Bicycle developed engines so the motorcycles came on scene. After several more million years, some motorcycles evolved into tricycles of which keke NAPEP evolved into the first Ford motorcars and later Tractors, SUVs and Trailers evolved.

The proof is in the similarity of their DNA. You will note that all have wheels made up of synthetic rubber and steal or aluminium. Evolution of automobiles actually show that they were not man made or designed but through millions of years, they happen to be. This is the most logical explanation for the origin of the Lexus 300 is use.

You nailed it! The hypocrisy called evolution.

shadeyinka:
I believe into the evolution of automobiles.
It all started with monocycles which after Millon's of years became bicycles. After several million years, a specific bicycle known as Raleigh Bicycle developed engines so the motorcycles came on scene. After several more million years, some motorcycles evolved into tricycles of which keke NAPEP evolved into the first Ford motorcars and later Tractors, SUVs and Trailers evolved.

The proof is in the similarity of their DNA. You will note that all have wheels made up of synthetic rubber and steal or aluminium. Evolution of automobiles actually show that they were not man made or designed but through millions of years, they happen to be. This is the most logical explanation for the origin of the Lexus 300 is use.

Not when the inventor of electromagnetic motor, is known. The religious mind, goes on auto drive and plunge into "origin" blues, whenever the word evolution comes up.

The very origin of religious illusions, is the sickly habit of reading Yahweh, into science.

The only thing the Jews did was take his religion and make it into scientific terms. Any of you can do the same thing with African cosmology, except you dont know it any more because Christianity, Islam, and Judaism mocked it, killed and ran all your priests and native doctors underground. This is what happened to Africa besides the burning of Timbutu the largest university in human history. Then there were universities in East Africa that were burned and destroyed, along with libraries and the killing of the learned sages and adepts. I pity you sitting in the land of the Gods but too stupid to go seek out the elders so you can know the history. Nigeria is a special place on Earth full of kings, queens, ancient monuments, sacre places you can go and ask any wish and it will come true. Oyo will rise again. The Fulani will rise again. The Igbo will rise again. The Hausa will rise again. The Benin will rise again. The Dahomey/Fon will rise again. This is the time for the rise of Africa. This is the century for Africa and the end of Western civilization and their feeble science. Ase. Love, Sango.

akintom:
Not when the inventor of electromagnetic motor, is known. The religious mind, goes on auto drive and plunge into "origin" blues, whenever the word evolution comes up.

The very origin of religious illusions, is the sickly habit of reading Yahweh, into science.

You obviously cannot take a joke.

How about if per chance we do not trust our history books about the inventors because we have evolved into an advanced scientific rhelm that denies history because
1. Historical tales cannot be taken to the laboratory and replicated
2. Historical tales cannot be measured nor quantified
3. Historical tales can be subjective.
4. Historical tales were not presented in a scientific manner

Wouldn't the scientific evolution of automobiles as stated by my previous post be plausible?

Nobody knows how the first wheel was made and by who and none alive now has met Henry Ford. You can see where your bias lies.

You cannot trust the Bible but you are willing to trust your history books

Niflheim:
@Hier,

Have you noticed that the Bolivians usually win World cup qualifiers in La Paz against Brazil and Argentina? The Brazilians struggle, the Argentines struggle but the Bolivians don't!!! La Paz, the Bolivian capital is located at a very high altitude where oxygen levels are so low!!! After so many generations of Bolivians living at that high attitude, the haemoglobin evolves,changes in such a way that it can absorb high amounts of oxygen where low levels of oxygen exist!!! But their opponents whose haemoglobin did not evolve to absorb high levels of oxygen where low levels of oxygen exist will always struggle!!!

This is an example of Evolution(anyone who tells you Evolution is about humans growing chicken wings might be an ignorant slowpoke or a fool, or even both, I advice you to ignore them)!!!

In 1993, the Brazilian squad that eventually won the World Cup, played a World Cup Qualifier in La Paz and lost 2-0!!! But in the return leg in Brazil, they one 6-0!!!

Bolivians have evolved to have little to no breathing problems in high altitudes were the oxygen level is low!!!

Is there a difference between Evolution and Adaptation?

When malaria parasite becomes resistant to chloroquine, have they evolved? If they evolved, what part of their DNA is new?

shadeyinka:
Is there a difference between Evolution and Adaptation?

When malaria parasite becomes resistant to chloroquine, have they evolved? If they evolved, what part of their DNA is new?

That one is absolutely confused!

shadeyinka:
You obviously cannot take a joke.

How about if per chance we do not trust our history books about the inventors because we have evolved into an advanced scientific rhelm that denies history because
1. Historical tales cannot be taken to the laboratory and replicated
2. Historical tales cannot be measured nor quantified
3. Historical tales can be subjective.
4. Historical tales were not presented in a scientific manner

Wouldn't the scientific evolution of automobiles as stated by my previous post be plausible?



Nobody knows how the first wheel was made and by who and none alive now has met Henry Ford. You can see where your bias lies.

You cannot trust the Bible but you are willing to trust your history books

Your earlier post wasn't a joke, but an illogical and inappropriate comparative muddle.

Scientific facts and Claims aren't valid, on the basis of their documentation (what you erroneously now call history), but on the basis of their inherent TESTABILITY.

The basis of rejection or acceptance in scientific realm, is overwhelming evidences. And not some baseless "revelatory" assumptions.

akintom:
Your earlier post wasn't a joke, but an illogical and inappropriate comparative muddle.

Scientific facts and Claims aren't valid, on the basis of their documentation (what you erroneously now call history), but on the basis of their inherent TESTABILITY.

The basis of rejection or acceptance in scientific realm, is overwhelming evidences. And not some baseless "revelatory" assumptions.

Every single part of an automobile or a monocycle from its inception is testable. The metals that were forged to make a bicycle are testable! The knots and bolts used in fusing the parts together are testable! The material used for making the seat is testable!

Every darn thing is testable right up to its evolution to cars, trucks, trains, planes etc but here is the problem....

I believe that monocycles just evolved to become the awesome vehicles we see today without the support of intelligence. I believe the knots and bolts just decided to keep trying and failing until they got it right and moved to the next phase. I believe the metals on their own just kept testing themselves out until they became fibreglass. I believe the seat just began altering itself through trials and error until it became the best seat an automobile could have fitted into it at this time.

You see, I believe all of this happened without intelligence behind it.

so every single scientific breakthrough we have today or mechanical exploit or technological awesomeness just made itself so through trial and error and no intelligence assisted in any way

akintom:
Your earlier post wasn't a joke, but an illogical and inappropriate comparative muddle.

Scientific facts and Claims aren't valid, on the basis of their documentation (what you erroneously now call history), but on the basis of their inherent TESTABILITY.

The basis of rejection or acceptance in scientific realm, is overwhelming evidences. And not some baseless "revelatory" assumptions.

You sound hurt. Sorry o!
It was just an ordinary illustration which is valid when our so called history books are not trusted because they are unscientific.

Are history books scientific?

Since you cannot bring back the inventors of the various stages in the evolution of the automobile to the laboratory and neither can you recreate those events, the fall into history and not science. That is the point. If you cannot trust history because they are unscientific, you arrive at sometimes seriously illogical and nonsensical conclusions.

butterflylion:
That one is absolutely confused!

A lot of them forget that it take more than google copy and paste to become an authority over any field.

Evolution: a scientific term based on zero laboratory result.

shadeyinka:
A lot of them forget that it take more than google copy and paste to become an authority over any field.

Evolution: a scientific term based on zero laboratory result.

Absolutely zero! How would there ever be a laboratory result when they can never recreate the conditions required to test it? There has never been any controlled environment which matches all they claim was available at the beginning of evolution.

butterflylion:
Absolutely zero! How would there ever be a laboratory result when they can never recreate the conditions required to test it? There has never been any controlled environment which matches all they claim was available at the beginning of evolution.

Very true.
And to hide the lies, they appeal to MILLIONS of years of daily progressive MUTATION of DNA. Even though they know that the DNA doesn't mutate in its natural state.

Remember how fairy tails are told,


Long Long time ago, ...in the land of the animals, tortoise was made the king

How do you question long-long time ago?

Millions of years and Millions of years ago....all the other lies follows.

shadeyinka:
Very true.
And to hide the lies, they appeal to MILLIONS of years of daily progressive MUTATION of DNA. Even though they know that the DNA doesn't mutate in its natural state.

Remember how fairy tails are told,


Long Long time ago, ...in the land of the animals, tortoise was made the king

How do you question long-long time ago?

Millions of years and Millions of years ago....all the other lies follows.

Oh yes. The clincher for them has always been the billions of years angle.

Afterall nobody can question an authority when they mention that they have equipment which can prove what happened billions of years ago and you have no access to this equipment, neither were you there at that billions of years ago.

However they forget that their equipment is already rigged to favour their Fairy tales simply because it's whatever information THEY feed this equipment that it would work with. So if I say Shadeyinka was definitely a girl billions of years ago, in order to prove myself right I would have to feed the equipment parameters that would support my claim and of course the equipment would always do what it's told

shadeyinka:
You sound hurt. Sorry o!
It was just an ordinary illustration which is valid when our so called history books are not trusted because they are unscientific.

Are history books scientific?

Since you cannot bring back the inventors of the various stages in the evolution of the automobile to the laboratory and neither can you recreate those events, the fall into history and not science. That is the point. If you cannot trust history because they are unscientific, you arrive at sometimes seriously illogical and nonsensical conclusions.

nice try to escape to a philosophic subject , ( is history a science) , but you havnt choose a good exemple , automobile seriously ?

automobile inventors ? seriously ? its easy to verify , you have pics of them , they have musuems , you can see with your own eyes .

do you know how science work ? when you found scientific evidence , facts of what your book are saying , we will be happy to see you publish a scientific study , or photography or anything logical about the fact that god created humans or only that god exist and present it to the scientist communoty

in the pic this is Karl Benz the inventor of the the first practical motorcar . so realy your exemple is out of any logic

Algerian1:
do you ever heard about Archaeology ? or maybe photography ? or maye only logic ?

automobile inventors ? seriously ? its easy to verify , you have pics of them , they have musuems , you can see with your own eyes .

do you know how science work ? when you found scientific evidence , facts of what your book are saying , we will be happy to see you publish a scientific study , or photography or anything logical about the fact that god created humans or only that god exist and present it to the scientist communoty

in the pic this is Carl Benz the inventor of the the first practical motorcar . so realy your exemple is out of any logic

You obviously do not get it. Science is supposed to be the logical one but we are simply the factual ones.

Do we know who is behind creation? Yes we do so based on this we can say in reverse that since science claims God isn't in the picture the automobile inventors are also not in the picture so we can safely say that technology evolved by itself.

butterflylion:
Yes we do so based on this we can say in reverse that since science claims God isn't in the picture the automobile inventors are also not in the picture so we can safely say that technology evolved by itself .

what kind of logic is this ? ,

God is not in the picture of creation yes , their is no evidence no fact , nothing scientific or logic

But inventors are in the picture , i just share a pic just above , you can see inventor and humans in the pic no ? its only a solid scientific and logic fact , . try to avoid losing your self in philosophy and stay in Logic and simple facts

the pic again

Algerian1:
what kind of logic is this ? ,

God is not in the picture of creation yes , their is no evidence no fact , nothing scientific or logic

But inventors are in the picture , i just share a pic just above , you can see inventor and humans in the pic no ? its only a solid scientific and logic fact , . try to avoid losing your self in philosophy and stay in Logic and simple facts

the pic again

Your post again says you do not understand

butterflylion:
Your post again says you do not understand

no i know what you try to do , run to a phylosophic subject based on a wrong assertion then discuss based on this wrong idea , try to find better exemple then (automobile invention ) , maybe you can go for the phylosophic subject ( is history a science)

Algerian1:
no i know what you try to do , run to a phylosophic subject based on a wrong assertion then discuss based on this wrong idea , try to find better exemple then (automobile invention ) , maybe you can go for the phylosophic subject ( is history a science)

better question should be, is science not a part of history or is science not found in history?

butterflylion:
better question should be, is science not a part of history or is science not found in history?

of course science is part of history , history by definition is a continuous, systematic narrative of past events as relating to a particular people, country, period, person, etc., , so science is a part of humanity past events . and their is many historical events (not all) that can be verified today with science and your own eyes , But again this is phylosophy we will only lose our self if we open this kind of steril subject .


for me i only believe in facts , evidence , and logic , exemple : if some one show me dinosaurs skeletons found all a around the world and show me a solid scientic study , i will give him credit , its easy and simple !

for god ; creation its the same : i will be happy to find any solide irrefutable fact or evidence of god existance or creation but unfortunately there is not , or all scientist would be believers

Algerian1:
of course science is part of history , history by definition is a continuous, systematic narrative of past events as relating to a particular people, country, period, person, etc., , so science is a part of humanity past events . and their is many historical events (not all) that can be verified today with science and your own eyes , But again this is phylosophy we will only lose our self if we open this kind of steril subject .


for me i only believe in facts , evidence , and logic , exemple : if some one show me dinosaurs skeletons found all a around the world and show me a solid scientic study , i will give him credit , its easy and simple !

for god ; creation its the same : i will be happy to find any solide irrefutable fact or evidence of god existance or creation but unfortunately there is not , or all scientist would be believers

Then you should not have asked if history is science.

butterflylion:
Then you should not have asked if history is science.

havent ask, it was a suggestion for you , a better phylosophical off topic subject then automobile inventors