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| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Daeylar(f): 11:49pm On Oct 23, 2017*. Modified: 2:01pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by kozmicity: 12:02am On Oct 24, 2017 |
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| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by abduljabbar4(m): 12:12am On Oct 24, 2017 |
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| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by pop50(m): 7:27am On Oct 24, 2017 |
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| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Daeylar(f): 8:33am On Oct 24, 2017*. Modified: 2:20pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 8:53am On Oct 24, 2017 |
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| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 9:00am On Oct 24, 2017 |
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| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 10:29am On Oct 24, 2017*. Modified: 10:51am On Oct 24, 2017 |
Daeylar:D darling, I'm sorry about responding late. The cc is merged with my moniker, so I didn't get the mention. I'm seriously growing tired of these rudimentary feminists discussions on NL, you can't educate people who are determined to be dense. Just when you think you're making some headway on one thread, another one brings you back to ground zero. And all the supposed-converts find an excuse to be foolish again. It's exhausting! It's easier to refer everyone to: Dear Ijeawele, Or A Feminists Manifesto In Fifteen Suggestions, by Chimamanda Adichie. It's a fifteen minute read if you're a quick reader, thirty if you're a slow one. Naturally, I disagree that feminism supports gender specific roles. And if you believe it does, you cannot also claim that feminism is against discrimination against women. Having gender specific roles means that there are some endeavours you should embark on because you're a woman; and some you should not because you're not a man. Isn't that the definition of discrimination? 'Because you are a woman' or 'Because you're not a man' should not be a reason to deny a woman an opportunity (or saddle her with responsibility). Whatever she wants to be (or do) should only be truncated by her own individual limitations (if she finds them, accepts them, and lets them) and not by the possession of a vagina. If she wants to carry a house on her head, let her discover she may not have the muscles to do it. And that would be the reason for giving in. |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 11:09am On Oct 24, 2017 |
Daeylar:Sorry for jumping on your mention but sharing of bills and house duties have nothing to do with feminism. It makes the idea of feminism petty i.e. almost like girls are better than boys talk I believe men have their roles in the home just like their women counterparts. Even the kids have their own roles to play in the home, it is not called family for no reason. It is team work, so everyone participate according to their abilities. For instance, in team sports like football we have the goal keepers, strikers and defenders. All of which participate to the best of their abilities. Feminism is about women liberation movement aimed at social injustice not just equality for equality sake. The right for women to vote in the united states comes to my mind as one of the ealier achievement of feminism. Feminism not only succeeded in getting the rights to vote for women but female voters now constitute about 40% of voters in that country. In Nigeria and Africa in general, equal education opportunity for the "girl child" when compared to male child is one of the main achievements of feminism. Today we have more female university graduates in Africa than we had some decades ago. In summary, the idea of feminism just like any struggle for social justice was born to reverse the unfair treatment of females by the society. It wasn't born to ensure equality for equality sake. |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 11:28am On Oct 24, 2017 |
The day a feminist starts twerking for Me maybe then i had think of marrying one...cc thornapple ![]() |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Daeylar(f): 11:42am On Oct 24, 2017*. Modified: 2:01pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
sunshineG:It's good that you know you just jumped in lol please go back and read how this whole stuff started, go back through the quotes. ![]() but sharing of bills and house duties have nothing to do with feminism. It makes the idea of feminism petty i.e. almost like girls are better than boys talkThis is why I said you should go back and read the quotes, so you can direct this message to the right person. ![]() I believe men have their roles in the home just like their women counterparts. Even the kids have their own roles to play in the home, Raggedyann dear, see another roles advocate, it is not called family for no reason. It is team work, so everyone participate according to their abilities .How can you make a statement and contradict yourself in next damn sentence LMAO, how can you say I have "roles" to play in a family but then say I should participate according to my abilities? What if my abilities are not suited for my roles at all? What do I do then? ![]() For instance, in team sports like football we have the goal keepers, strikers and defenders. All of which participate to the best of their abilities.This is feminism, not football ![]() Feminism is about women liberation movement aimed at social injustice not just equality for equality sake. The right for women to vote in the united states comes to my mind as one of the ealier achievement of feminism. Feminism not only succeeded in getting the rights to vote for women but female voters now constitute about 40% of voters in that country.As for what you wrote here, I have no words, PS, Ann I saw your meñtion but I'm waiting on her reply. Let me see if I can understand better her point of view. Lol, I won't join the cc to your moniker next time. It was a mistake lol ![]() |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by pocohantas(f): 12:02pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
You made sense @ sunshineG But, feminism seeks equal right within the marriage too...it extends beyond political, educational and socio-economic opportunities. It includes every individual and personal opportunities. I guess gender equality is a better word. Some women that scream sexism would also hesitate to employ a male child minder. How many women would go to their child's daycare and see a man in charge without fretting? Each gender is guilty of sexism in more ways than one. |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 12:07pm On Oct 24, 2017*. Modified: 12:30pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Daeylar:I don't understand why you tried to demise my point as invalid, without addressing them. My apologies in previous post were meant to show some courtsey not that I didn't understand the context of your discussions. I tried explaining my self with a simple analogy. Now let help you with a simple definition of a "role" ![]() A Role is the function assumed or part played by a person or thing in a particular situation Now you play this part you as person to the best of your abilities. How is contradictory? ![]() I used the analogy of a fooball team for family not feminism ( again you show lack of basic abilities to understand) a family is a team, just like a football team. What I wrote is based on my experience about true feminist. I am not writing nonsense. These are facts that can be easily confirmed. I don't argue often but when I do, I do it with facts ![]() Ps: read more about the history of what you stand for ![]() |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 12:17pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
pocohantas:I don't totally agree feminism have anything to do with internal structures of a marriage. Marriage is like a personal contract signed between two people. I have seen families where the man cooks because of his amazing abilities in the kitchen, and I have also seen families where the woman takes most of the financial burden because the woman earns more than the man. It is all about understanding. The very reason why feminism have achieved very little in recent times is because the initial ideas that lead to the formation of the struggle have been abandoned. Everyone now gives his/her own meaning to it. For instance, promiscuous women now use it as an excuse to cheat, as if sleeping with multiple men is empowering other women. Some men also use it as excuse to abuse their woman, they claim feminism have ruined women's mentality. So they force their women to remain in the closet. |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 12:23pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Me when i see feminists or hear matters relating to feminism...................
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| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 12:29pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
thepussyhunter: ![]() Don't mind them What is expected when one fails to learn from history. What is expected when you ignore the lessons in the victory and defeats of the past. ![]() |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Daeylar(f): 12:32pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
sunshineG:This is the problem I have with nairaland, people don't understand sh*t but still jump on your meñtion. Can't you just ask if you don't understand? I didn't understand what a moniker said about roles and then I asked? Couldn't you do that? How can you even argue about something you don't understand? What do you even know you're arguing about? Either you understand before quoting or quote and ask first before flying into the discussion or you just stay in your lane. I tried explaining my self with a simple analogy.When did we start talking about the definition of a role? ![]() Now you play this part you as person to the best of your abilities. How is contradictory?You're still doing it. Putting women in "roles" and saying we should do it to the best of our ability, This was my question What if my abilities are not suited for my roles at all? What do I do then?what if I can't "play the part"? What do I do? Did you answer this? Instead you started defining roles. Please, I don't discuss with goal post shifters ![]() I used the analogy of a fooball team for family not feminism ( again you show basic ability to understand) a family is a team, just like a football team.BS, coming from someone who admitted that he didn't understand the context of the discussion before flying into my mentioñs. I think I'll pass, keep your bs to yourself. What I wrote is based on my experience about true feminist. I am not writing nonsense. This are facts that can be easily confirmed. I don't argue often but when I do, I do it with factsOnce again. I have no words. I'm done with you, I don't discuss with people who don't understand a discussion but jump into it and when called out instead of them to admit their mistakes they start shifting goal post. |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 12:37pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
sunshineG: ![]() true that man used to understand and care then but over the years (after seeing how they've changed the entire concept and goal of feminism) i just stopped caring and now i dont even like talking on it they can continue with their feminism nonsense......................as far as ti dont cross their path and they dont cross mine, it doesnt concern me ![]() |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 12:43pm On Oct 24, 2017*. Modified: 3:49pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Daeylar:I still don't understand your points, I don't try to insult anyone while making my comments. I made a typo initially which I corrected. Once again you wrote a lot insults without any simple logic I argue with logic not insults. You said my previous comments were contradictory but I said it wasn't and I gave you a simple definition of "roles" for better explanation. You are funny if you think throwing personal insults will help your arguments., because It doesn't. It can give you cheap likes but it only shows the intellectual capacity of those liking your comments. I said everyone in a family have their own roles to play and they will do that to the best of their abilities. I.e. the richer partner will carry the financial burden, the better cook can cook for the family. It has nothing to do with feminism. Read and understand before responding next time. |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 12:47pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
thepussyhunter:the lady I am arguing with doesn't even know how to argue with simple logic She keeps insulting me as easy way of scoring cheap likes. ![]() My grandmother and aunts were feminist, not this one's on nairaland that cannot even define the word ![]() |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by pocohantas(f): 12:50pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
sunshineG:'Feminism' includes equal rights within a marriage. What the couple decides on is up to them as long as they're both happy. There are different types of feminism, I guess you agree with the liberal ones. Women have been cheating since time immemorial, men have been known to put their wives in a box to avoid her independency. They shouldn't blame feminism for their misdoings, feminism didn't tell anyone to cheat or abuse their partner. I'm trying not to type too much, because this topic has been over flogged. |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 12:52pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
sunshineG:exactly man my grandma was a feminist too and that was the period i cared and understood cos she knew and made me uderstand what true feminism is no be all this idiot shallow fvck shiiit wey all this fvck-girls dey do..................and forget that one jareh..............its obvious she knows not what feminism is........... I'm enjoying u guys convo sha ![]() |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 12:55pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
sunshineG:SSG, (before you say:who called you? )you didn't edit my name, so I feel justified in responding. I agree, for every family to work efficiently, roles must be assigned to each member. You cannot do without roles and responsibilities. And every family does this by putting "the best person for the job" at various duty posts. Or at least, that's what would make the most sense. So if for instance, wifey has a higher paying job than hubby, she'll be the earner in the family. And if hubby is a killer in the kitchen, he should be allowed to face the kitchen and no one should denigrate him for doing "a woman's job". It's the task he's best suited to perform. And so, everyone has their roles tailored to suit the specific family's needs. What feminists do not accept is that a woman should naturally be the cook (for instance) just because she's a woman rather than because it's a skill she's perfected. And women should not naturally be expected to perfect cooking simply because they're women. There are no "men jobs" or "women jobs" predetermined. But roles are assigned in individual families based on everyone's ability. The vagina does not come with a cook book and a ladle. |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 12:56pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
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| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 12:58pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
RaggedyAnn:Don't worry about that, you are one of the people I respect on this forum Yes, I have added that to my comments to clarity myself to her. ![]() |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 1:03pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
pocohantas:well cheating is now a social issue, since it breaks the agreements of a marriage and its implications goes beyond the marriage |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Daeylar(f): 1:26pm On Oct 24, 2017*. Modified: 1:58pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
RaggedyAnn:Nice what do you think about a situation where they want to share the responsibilities, they are not assigning roles, they are sharing all the responsibilites equally, That's the discussion I was having with the first guy. Lol, the problem is that I'm having a discussion with someone, another person flies from nowhere into my mentioñs talking about something different. Just because he wants to show that he too knows about feminism, desperatly trying to insert himself into a conversation he doesn't understand and he even admits that he doesn't understand what we are talking about, but he can't humble himself, apologize and ask me to explain. Or at the very least fûck out of my mentioñs. he nows starts shifting goal posts to defend his earlier mistake, Then goes on to insult me to his friend. But at the same time expects me to entertain his foolishness, Rudeness and foolishness rolled into one. I need to really observe the kind of mentioñs I get and really filter out the ones that deserves a response and the ones that should be ignored. This is what the guys question was laiga01:Note, he said sharing bills, not about roles in the family, not about who is earning more should pay the bills, not about the abilty to pay bills since with this question it is implied that both have the ability to handle the bills in the house. he said, "sharing" and my response to him was based on that, sharing the bills, This was my response Daylar:Compare that question and our replies to each other following that with this. n: |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 1:46pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
I am sorry who is this lady that doesn't even know the meaning of what she stands for, insulting me Please, I don't usually insult people, but if you have something to say, it is better you qoute me. Ask your friend you quoted, I am not new to this thing. I am sorry what will your mentions add to my life? who are you? The professor of ignorance ![]() Omg ![]() Living in a fool's paradise ![]() |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 2:02pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Daeylar: , these guys should stop provoking my baby! Sure, couples could share responsibilities. It doesn't have to be neatly demarcated areas of limited jurisdiction. Your point is valid. It's whatever works for any particular family. The point is that, people shouldn't be limited to certain roles just because of their gender. Both parties can pay the bills, cook, change diapers....(but in effect, that's still a role you're performing in the home, sha) A woman can even choose to do the cooking and cleaning and minding the children; it doesn't necessarily make her anti-feminist. As long as she knows she's not relegated to doing these things because she's "the woman of the house". Because of the times we live in, women who choose to do what are today refered to as "traditionally feminine tasks", need to do the extra bit to show their daughters that these aren't congenital (inherited by birth) tasks that they must naturally do. Sweetheart, don't let these people upset you. I know how hard it can be to stay patient. |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 2:19pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
sunshineG: , smh. For your mind now.......That drama went the distance until we were repeating ourselves and you conveniently avoided the laws of basic economics, . Calling it off was the mature thing to do; and I knew that I had to be the one to bring that to the table. You sabi drag issue, sha. ![]() |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Nobody: 2:30pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
RaggedyAnn: ![]() I am still learning work from you now but you can argue sha.. I will give you that You argue very well with sound logic too ![]() |
| Re: Feminists Are Insecure, Paranoid And Unreasonable by Sterope(f): 3:34pm On Oct 24, 2017 |
Responsibilities cannot be shared equally. One partner will always end up doing more on the home front than the other. It might even end up being the partner who earns more. It should not matter who does what if it is in the interest of the family. I think the whole point of this argument is to discourage the disparity of domestic chores and the person who does them; to demystify payment of bills and the person that pay the bills in familial relationships; to criticize the assignment of gender roles and primarily to promote freedom of choice. A man cannot cook because of many reasons except having a penis and a woman can cook because of many reasons except having a vagina. Daeylar: |
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