BigChillin:


See this negro all up in my Kool-Aid

na we dem dey call World Pple. Monitoring spirit wey no dey harm person

olaboy1:


The major reason they go for men from 3rd world countries is to control them. The feminist states have a deep rooted hate towards men, and the set of men that they can control easily are impoverished men from 3rd world countries, it has nothing to do with the women discovering how awesomely appreciated they are by these men.

Go to Malmo and see for yourself how they date beach boys from Gambia that an average African woman would not even give a time of day for a small chat. I have talked with many women here and everything I write here is fact.

You gave far fetched reasons why the relationships don’t last, but take your time and you would read a part where someone on this thread advice the OP not to allow Naija guys near his Swedish girl friend, have you asked yourself why. The women here have no sexual boundaries who they sleep with, if her body becomes Hot for your cousin or blood brother she is gonna Bleep him...as a matter of fact my friends and I have named them “jumpers” because they can jump to whoever they like anytime they want, and that was why OP’s wife jumped from his younger brother she met online to him with no remorse. In my house party a guy was angry that his Swedish girl friend was flirting with his friend, they got into an argument and the guy left angrily, fast forward to 45 mins later the girl was banging her BF’s friend in my toilet. That’s just one example, I have many many many examples I can’t share here.

If you went back in history you would read about the incest and that is wholly responsible for the mental illnesses as a result of copulation from same gene pool, and that incest even though the govt has put a law in place to make it punishable, that trait of ability to sleep with people of close ties is still in them, coupled with the fact that feminism has taught them they own their bodies and can sleep with whoever they want.

I still think you don’t know the dynamics at play in this quest for relationship with people from 3rd world countries, because from your comment it thus appear you are saying men from 3rd world countries are charming, loving and caring to these European women to a point the women consider their men to be beasts, that’s not true because the men here are rumored to be docile, caring, loving, helping in the kitchen and changing diapers....so what kind of women leave these men for men from 3rd world countries.

Most interracial relationships that hit the rock here are caused by the guy suddenly finding his foot and not able to be controlled anymore. By your admittance you are saying people from 3rd world countries are more family oriented, so why do white folks still feed their people with lies that black men are not good fathers and can’t keep a home, isn’t that contradictory.

Your reasons don change now now.

First you said they go for third world men out of pity, and when I countered it, you came up with the control narrative. All these I clearly stated in my post you quoted. I don't wish to do a Merry go round if my points are not countered.

You talked about how your friend's babe cheated on him with his friend. How does a couple of cases like that become a general attitude? I really don't want our discussion to get to the point of comparing Nordic girls to their Nigerian counterparts as I clearly stated that their behavior has nothing to do with color but environment. I could still remember I said that Nigerian girl who were born and bread there adopt the same character towards relationships. Besides, the girl in question most likely have shown your friend that their relationship was just for sex....heck why his own friend comfortably and openly slept with her. You may not have even known that the girl was being passed around. It was a plan all the way.

You talked about how the op's girl jumped from his younger brother to the op. But this was a lie as the girl clearly told the young man that he's too young for her and they later became just friends.

Again, their married women are hardly this way. They rather divorce you then go on sex binge than go behind your back to sleep with your gateman for 20 years.

But if we must compare, I will encourage you to Google the women who cheat the most in the world. The research was done by durex condom and their results showed that Nigerian women came 1st. Again, this has nothing to do with color or race but poverty and income disparity. A quick research will show you that a well paid Nigerian or black woman hardly cheats. Same characteristics with most scandinavian ladies.

You talked about incest and how it's been the major cause of their mental illness. Haha... Oga please let's not compare the number of cases of incest in say Sweden and Nigeria. Only have in mind that just like rape, it's underreported back home. I will also encourage you not allow us get to the point of comparing number of mental cases in both worlds.

And yes, African men are mostly good fathers and family oriented. Your research countering this point was a research done on African Americans, not the entire blackmen, not Nigerians.

I also saw where you talk about honesty in scandinavian countries. How it's propelled by the law. I mean, how could you fault such a system? Such systems transform people from bad to good. It has become their culture whether the law is there or not. Why do you think their HDI, SPI, life expectancy, low crime rate, high employment rate etc are on the high side? You think everybody just woke one morning and started doing the right thing? No bro. The law pushed them and they became used to it and it became a culture. Environment of honesty and transparency. See what is happening in Asia, they have picked it up o.

I could still remember some years back when we were coming back from club at around 3am. We decided to take in the early morning fresh air by strolling home. I was new in that environment and wanted to jump the pedestrian traffic light that has no cctv, immediately my friend held me back and politely asked me to hold on to the green light. This was a lonely road o.

Another similar incident occurred recently back home in Nigeria. A young boy fell from a 3 storey building and broke his skull. You cannot imagine the pool of blood. The entire Street circled the boy within minutes. For several minutes, nobody agreed to go near him. And when my friend quickly rushed to the scene, he saw a young scandinavian lady sitting by the boy's side and massaging and singing for him until my friend and the boy's father was able to get a means of transportation. The entire Street refused to go near the the boy except for this "dumb Swedish" lady who recently relocated with his Nigerian husband back home. The boy survived as it has to be a miracle.

Their law, the punishment and reward system pushes them to be better people to themselves and to their neighbors. This transforms them to be honest people and later it becomes their culture. What's wrong with this?

Minnesota is one of the best and most progressive States in the USA. Most of the citizens of this state are Swedish migrants. They brought in the same culture of honesty from their old country. The progressive nature of Minnesota is tied to this culture.

Finally, I know they are exceptional cases, but I think it's wrong to say that it's out of pity or the quest for control are the reasons scandinavian ladies go into relationships with 3rd world men.

Nuzo1:


Your reasons don change now now.

First you said they go for third world men out of pity, and when I countered it, you came up with the control narrative. All these I clearly stated in my post you quoted. I don't wish to do a Merry go round if my points are not countered.

You talked about how your friend's babe cheated on him with his friend. How does a couple of cases like that become a general attitude? I really don't want our discussion to get to the point of comparing Nordic girls to their Nigerian counterparts as I clearly stated that their behavior has nothing to do with color but environment. I could still remember I said that Nigerian girl who were born and bread there adopt the same character towards relationships. Besides, the girl in question most likely have shown your friend that their relationship was just for sex....heck why his own friend comfortably and openly slept with her. You may not have even known that the girl was being passed around. It was a plan all the way.

You talked about how the op's girl jumped from his younger brother to the op. But this was a lie as the girl clearly told the young man that he's too young for her and they later became just friends.

Again, their married women are hardly this way. They rather divorce you then go on sex binge than go behind your back to sleep with your gateman for 20 years.

But if we must compare, I will encourage you to Google the women who cheat the most in the world. The research was done by durex condom and their results showed that Nigerian women came 1st. Again, this has nothing to do with color or race but poverty and income disparity. A quick research will show you that a well paid Nigerian or black woman hardly cheats. Same characteristics with most scandinavian ladies.

You talked about incest and how it's been the major cause of their mental illness. Haha... Oga please let's not compare the number of cases of incest in say Sweden and Nigeria. Only have in mind that just like rape, it's underreported back home. I will also encourage you not allow us get to the point of comparing number of mental cases in both worlds.

And yes, African men are mostly good fathers and family oriented. Your research countering this point was a research done on African Americans, not the entire blackmen, not Nigerians.

I also saw where you talk about honesty in scandinavian countries. How it's propelled by the law. I mean, how could you fault such a system? Such systems transform people from bad to good. It has become their culture whether the law is there or not. Why do you think their HDI, SPI, life expectancy, low crime rate, high employment rate etc are on the high side? You think everybody just woke one morning and started doing the right thing? No bro. The law pushed them and they became used to it and it became a culture. Environment of honesty and transparency. See what is happening in Asia, they have picked it up o.

I could still remember some years back when we were coming back from club at around 3am. We decided to take in the early morning fresh air by strolling home. I was new in that environment and wanted to jump the pedestrian traffic light that has no cctv, immediately my friend held me back and politely asked me to hold on to the green light. This was a lonely road o.

Another similar incident occurred recently back home in Nigeria. A young boy fell from a 3 storey building and broke his skull. You cannot imagine the pool of blood. The entire Street circled the boy within minutes. For several minutes, nobody agreed to go near him. And when my friend quickly rushed to the scene, he saw a young scandinavian lady sitting by the boy's side and massaging and singing for him until my friend and the boy's father was able to get a means of transportation. The entire Street refused to go near the the boy except for this "dumb Swedish" lady who recently relocated with his Nigerian husband back home. The boy survived as it has to be a miracle.

Their law, the punishment and reward system pushes them to be better people to themselves and to their neighbors. This transforms them to be honest people and later it becomes their culture. What's wrong with this?

Minnesota is one of the best and most progressive States in the USA. Most of the citizens of this state are Swedish migrants. They brought in the same culture of honesty from their old country. The progressive nature of Minnesota is tied to this culture.

Finally, I know they are exceptional cases, but I think it's wrong to say that it's out of pity or the quest for control are the reasons scandinavian ladies go into relationships with 3rd world men.

You wrote like a refined gentleman who obviously has a good head on his shoulders. Respect.

Nigeriadondie:

No let Pidgin2 hear u ooo call Naija hell hole which is truly a hell hole getting worse than Yemen or Somalia. She dey form patriotic Nigerian.

Nigeria is hopelessly doomed far beyond redemption.

Even d Devil has more hope of making heaven than for naija to better. It is so bleeped.

When u travel out u go see say Naija is worse than a shit or hell hole.

Baba no be lie you yarn so o, I still dey look up to God sha, make I just finish my program I dey run.

But abeg na Canada dey my mind and I go need you to torch light me as e dey go for that way.

Pidgin2:


Some Dondies' will not believe you

Bae! What of Canada ?

Nigeriadondie:

Dumbo what of tribalism in Nigeria?
Look at Buhari appointing more from a section of a country? Look at his 97 to 5% statement?
In certain companies run by a certain tribe u go to look for job and u re from another tribe u wud not be favoured. So even if i experience racism in a white man’s land but i enjoy living better conditions than what is obtainable at home then let it be.

Very well said, I remember losing a job all because I was not a Yoruba, even when I qualified for it.

shakol91:
Baba for the girls. Na only female nairalanders u dey follow

As in eh!

I still don't understand why whenever a Nigerian guy travels out the first thing he does is to compare the girls in that Country with girls in Nigeria. Telling us how we are not good enough or how materialistic we are forgetting that they have sisters and female relatives in Nigeria which are also included. If the girls there do not play hard to get we are insulted for it, if they play hard to get we are still insulted. If they dress and look better we are insulted about how ugly we look, if we dress better we are insulted about how overdressed we look. If they dress half unclad they are admired and applauded for allowing them see how sexy they look, if we dress half unclad we are called prostitutes and what not. Please we are tired of the insults and comparison. Nigerian girls outside the Country get married to foreigners on daily basis and you don't see them go about comparing them with Nigerian guys let alone insult them. Nigerian guys even behave far worse than the girls.

olaboy1:


When it comes to honesty I think you guys still don’t understand what’s going on internally. Let me do some clarifications

Let’s say you were driving on the high way and you witness an accident and see many Swedes parked trying to help, you would be quick to write that these folks are just way too compassionate without you understanding why they are compassionate. Their is a law that can send you to jail if you don’t stop to help when you witness an accident, have you asked yourself why the govt needs to make that law if they are naturally compassionate, after all we don’t have such laws tying our hands in Nigeria and I can bet more than 10 cars will stop to help in the event of an accident. Now let’s apply this to the honesty you stated

They have to be honest, sales reps have to be honest, sellers have to be honest because there are strong laws binding them that could send them to jail once they breach a written agreement or contract, all these still don’t make them the most honest people on earth . Many of us had this perception in the first 3yrs we arrived, but all my friends have come to same conclusion that they are actually not honest but tied by laws and if you want to know how dishonest they are, try and run any package with them without a written agreement and you would be shocked how the person would deny everything. They have a more professional way of cheating you we have all found out.

How can an employer take advantage of you when he could lose his license, pay for damages and go to minimum of 5yrs in prison if found out. I keep saying only those who have lived above 5yrs in Scandinavia can actually give an unbiased feedback.

Maybe you would even say they don’t cheat.

Brother man, you have been there, you have learnt not only in the four walls of the classroom, but also in the institution called: society. Your mind and eyes are really opened and I bet your experience will go a long way in shaping your personality and life.

Lorax:
I still don't understand why whenever a Nigerian guy travels out the first thing he does is to compare the girls in that Country with girls in Nigeria. Telling us how we are not good enough or how materialistic we are forgetting that they have sisters and female relatives in Nigeria which are also included. If the girls there do not play hard to get we are insulted for it, if they play hard to get we are still insulted. If they dress and look better we are insulted about how ugly we look, if we dress better we are insulted about how overdressed we look. If they dress half unclad they are admired and applauded for allowing them see how sexy they look, if we dress half unclad we are called prostitutes and what not. Please we are tired of the insults and comparison. Nigerian girls outside the Country get married to foreigners on daily basis and you don't see them go about comparing them with Nigerian guys let alone insult them. Nigerian guys even behave far worse than the girls.

SUPER STORY.. Naija babes don cast tay tay. As if you aren't aware

Shakitibob0:
SUPER STORY.. Naija babes don cast tay tay. As if you aren't aware

Heard that already, please say something new.

Lorax:
I still don't understand why whenever a Nigerian guy travels out the first thing he does is to compare the girls in that Country with girls in Nigeria. Telling us how we are not good enough or how materialistic we are forgetting that they have sisters and female relatives in Nigeria which are also included. If the girls there do not play hard to get we are insulted for it, if they play hard to get we are still insulted. If they dress and look better we are insulted about how ugly we look, if we dress better we are insulted about how overdressed we look. If they dress half unclad they are admired and applauded for allowing them see how sexy they look, if we dress half unclad we are called prostitutes and what not. Please we are tired of the insults and comparison. Nigerian girls outside the Country get married to foreigners on daily basis and you don't see them go about comparing them with Nigerian guys let alone insult them. Nigerian guys even behave far worse than the girls.

It's the misogynistic behaviour Nigerian men exhibit towards Nigerian women,
Just for op to say he has a good girl, he started insulting all Nigerian women as if all he has been with all Nigerian women and they are all bad and all Swedish women are all good as if he has been with them all just because he has a good girl and his fellow Nigerian men as usual jumped in to support him with their own sexist tales.

It really wasn't necessary, the way some Nigerian men treat women most times is disgusting.

Daeylar:


It's the misogynistic behaviour Nigerian men exhibit towards Nigerian women,
Just for op to say he has a good girl, he started insulting all Nigerian women as if all he has been with all Nigerian women and they are all bad and all Swedish women are all good as if he has been with them all just because he has a good girl and his fellow Nigerian men as usual jumped in to support him with their own sexist tales.

It really wasn't necessary, the way some Nigerian men treat women most times is disgusting.

it's disgusting to say the least. Nigerian guys go about marrying old white women for paper, engage in internet fraud, traffic drugs and what not outside Nigeria and Nigerian girls do not go about insulting them or even comparing them with foreigners. And the same Nigerian girls they spend their time insulting get married to better looking and better behaved foreigners of right age and they don't go about making noise about it.

userplainly:

deh noh dey check phone again.... if u noh carry many hair n dress over fresh then u r good... if deh stop na just to check pocket like bfo bfo den u can go... Govt stop dem from checking phones...see as boys noh dey fear dem again, deh stop guy cs of e BAADD Toyota spider 2017 model, deh coh ask am weti e dey do to make money... the reply na "I sell my kidney" nai e drive leave dem..

I don laff no be small waiting them cum talk after he tell them say he sell he kidney haha Na good format be dis

[quote author=olaboy1 post=62132068]
@olaboy You seem not to be optimistic about this Scandinavians. Whats your advice for Nigerians itching to migrate to that part of the world. Are you also planning on leaving there any time soon..
Response would be appreciated.

[quote author=aydi post=62157969][/quote]

Actually I’m not the only one, many white folks who migrated here from 1st world countries also don’t like the lifestyle of Scandinavians.
This is a result of the jante law, and for me jante law kind of means “guys look we have many mentally challenged people amongst us who have ADHD and can’t function to full capacity, so since they are so many why don’t we make some social construct rules to accommodate them with the rules below so they don’t feel left out or unable to catch up with the rest of us..... (translation below)

http://jantelag.se

The jantelagen is often said to be responsible for the Swedish mentality. There is no law in legal terms, but an unwritten "law" that stands for a way of thinking. You could summarize the law in one sentence: "You should not believe you are anything".

Jantelagen is thus a negative way of describing attitudes regarding individuality and success. You must not stand out and think that you are better than others, the best is to be one in the crowd. Aksel Sandemose Jantelag from the book about the small Danish society can be compiled in ten points:

Jantelagen in Swedish

1.You should not believe you are anything.
2.You should not believe you are as good as we do.
3.You should not believe you are wiser than we.
4.You should not imagine that you are better than us.
5.You should not believe that you know more than we.
6.You should not believe you are better than us.
7.You should not believe that you are doing anything.
8.You should not laugh at us.
9.You should not believe anyone cares about you.
10.You should not believe you can learn anything.

BigChillin:


Yes, in the smaller towns and rural areas of Scandinavian/Nordic societies, foreigners will likely run into the problems you enunciated. But in the bigger cities, capitals and metropoles such as Stockholm, Helsinki, Oslo, Copenhagen, Gotteborg and Reykjavik (all which play host to large foreign born populations) those problems recede significantly, albeit not entirely. With the penchant of these societies to price skilled manual labor extremely high, opportunities abound for a savvy lower cost freelancing skilled artisan (operating loosely and informally) to undercut the high priced formal structured business outfit. The key is how he markets his services, who he markets his services to, the quality and integrity of his services, his irresistibly competitive rates and so forth. The problems of subliminal racism you insinuated earlier are not peculiar to Scandinavian/Nordic societies alone. They are rampant in ALL predominantly Caucasian societies.....even here in the US, with its checkered history of long term interaction with non Caucasians. It is up to that foreign born non Caucasian settler/immigrant to see opportunities in the challenges, deftly positioning his or herself in the flow of commerce, hustling his services informally....and eating the lunch of the higher priced formal business entities in the process.

This is why and how the illegal immigrants from Mexico make a lot of money when they get to America. The skilled artisans among them are in high demand in the unregulated sector of the services market....all because of their lower labor rates.
Even ordinary cleaners among them make good money. The formal structured cleaning company charges about $275-$350 to clean my
4000 sq.ft home. But the little Mexican lady who can hardly speak English will charge me only $80 for the same job. At that rate, she's in demand to clean about 5 houses a day. That is $400 tax free cash for her daily, $2000 weekly and roughly a potential $6500 to $7000 monthly if she steadily cleans 5 houses per day 5 days a week at $80 a pop. Even if she only cleans 2 or 3 houses per day, do the math.

The illegal immigrant Mexican dude that services my house central A/C charges me an average of $135 to $190 for a service job that a regular company will easily charge me $450 to $650 for. He prolly does like 3 to 4 jobs per day. Do the math.
Last month when my garage door rollers skipped off the rails and almost came off the hinges, I couldn't get a Caucasian company to come assess the problem for less than $125 service call charge plus an estimated $375 in repair fees. I found this Mexican garage door repair dude online, begged him to spare time out of his busy schedule to come to me. He drove with his wife (who answers his phone for him) to my house in a brand new $35,000 Dodge Ram pick up truck, spent one hour fixing my garage doors and walked away with $175 from a relieved and grateful me. While he was at my house, his phone kept ringing off the hook from people needing his services. These are the types of latent skilled labor opportunities I'm talking about.

The problem is Caucasians here are in the majority and chances are they won’t even allow you come near their villas for any repairs at a lower cost. America is a melting pot and you absolutely can’t make these comparisons you just posted, it’s like comparing cucumber and carrot.

Smily202:


All those courses also have lower fees , the Pipe fitting and fabrication , welding , arc welding , marine engineering, Truck driving , fork lifting etc. The lower fees is without material. U have to Carter for urself in all expenses that will come forward when the training start.


Like me Pipe Fitting and Fabrication cost 360k with materials, I have to pay without materials around 160k .then all the whole expenses till now cost me around 100k.

What is the duration pls...

olaboy1:


Actually I’m not the only one, many white folks who migrated here from 1st world countries also don’t like the lifestyle of Scandinavians.
This is a result of the jante law, and for me jante law kind of means “guys look we have many mentally challenged people amongst us who have ADHD and can’t function to full capacity, so since they are so many why don’t we make some social construct rules to accommodate them with the rules below so they don’t feel left out or unable to catch up with the rest of us..... (translation below)

http://jantelag.se

The jantelagen is often said to be responsible for the Swedish mentality. There is no law in legal terms, but an unwritten "law" that stands for a way of thinking. You could summarize the law in one sentence: "You should not believe you are anything".

Jantelagen is thus a negative way of describing attitudes regarding individuality and success. You must not stand out and think that you are better than others, the best is to be one in the crowd. Aksel Sandemose Jantelag from the book about the small Danish society can be compiled in ten points:

Jantelagen in Swedish

1.You should not believe you are anything.
2.You should not believe you are as good as we do.
3.You should not believe you are wiser than we.
4.You should not imagine that you are better than us.
5.You should not believe that you know more than we.
6.You should not believe you are better than us.
7.You should not believe that you are doing anything.
8.You should not laugh at us.
9.You should not believe anyone cares about you.
10.You should not believe you can learn anything.

Bro, one thing I can assure you is that anytime the Scandinavians are tired of any system like Jante's law; they will change it. In other words, any day they are tired of being the most progressive society in recent times, they will discard the law. But unfortunately for you, it's not happening anytime soon because its working perfectly for them.

I bet if they ask some people why these guys are the most progressive, they might not know that it's because of this same Jante's law. Jante's law is all about selflessness and communalism. Just like ants, they build together and that makes them to build faster and efficiently. Don't leave your brother behind.

I also can bet that most people against this jante's law of selflessness does not know why Africa has been in a very bad shape for a long time. It's simply because of selfishness and wickedness. Myself and my family....every other person can go to hades.

Talking about how the Scandinavians are mostly mentally ill. I just laugh. I mean how? Because they keep records and we don't? Because they are open about it while we are not? Just how? How many of them blow themselves up? How many live disorderly like most of us do here? Have you been to Lagos, PH, Ogbete in Enugu? Have you been to maiduguru, kano? Have you been to Bronx new York, Brooklyn, Chicago, Compton, Inglewood? Have you been to Lusaka, Mosul, guinea Bissau? I'm even trying to extend the comparison beyond Africa. Oga, please stop these comparison.

As for the characteristics of jante's law you listed, how are they different from the Christian principles or most moral lessons we are given everyday? Does Golden commandment ring a bell?
You guys made it look like they took jante's law and made it full way of life. But that's not true, they refined it to suit themselves and it came out as PROTESTANT WORK ETHIC. In Asia, it's called NEO - CONFUCIANISM. It emphasizes on handwork, frugality, selflessness, discipline, respect for authority and elders, honesty, transparency, communalism etc. Are these not Christian principles assuming you are one?

Jante's law, in other words Protestant work ethic aka NEO CONFUCIANISN developed the Scandinavians. It did the same for most East Asians and now South East Asia. Singapore happened right in our time. Time to stop the hate and wake up bro.

"Africa MUST dare to dream" - Thomas Sankara.

Lorax:
I still don't understand why whenever a Nigerian guy travels out the first thing he does is to compare the girls in that Country with girls in Nigeria. Telling us how we are not good enough or how materialistic we are forgetting that they have sisters and female relatives in Nigeria which are also included. If the girls there do not play hard to get we are insulted for it, if they play hard to get we are still insulted. If they dress and look better we are insulted about how ugly we look, if we dress better we are insulted about how overdressed we look. If they dress half unclad they are admired and applauded for allowing them see how sexy they look, if we dress half unclad we are called prostitutes and what not. Please we are tired of the insults and comparison. Nigerian girls outside the Country get married to foreigners on daily basis and you don't see them go about comparing them with Nigerian guys let alone insult them. Nigerian guys even behave far worse than the girls.

I sincerely apologize on behalf of all the small small boys who are fond of comparing foreign ladies to our sweet chocolate down here. It's mostly out of frustration and ignorance.

Your opening sentence clearly states the point I've been trying to make since. African boys are usually overwhelmed by the honest nature of these foreign girls and the next thing is to compare. Their comparison are usually true with facts.

But the mistake is that the difference between these two group of girls is the orientation and environment. Most Nigerian ladies who grew up in these foreign environment usually have the same attitude as the foreigners. Most well paid ladies in Nigeria are fantastic lovers and wives.

I'm very hopeful that Nigeria will pick up soon. When this happens, poverty and income disparity will reduce. The difference in both groups of girls will automatically disappear.

Nuzo1:


Bro, one thing I can assure you is that anytime the Scandinavians are tired of any system like Jante's law; they will change it. In other words, any day they are tired of being the most progressive society in recent times, they will discard the law. But unfortunately for you, it's not happening anytime soon because its working perfectly for them.

I bet if they ask some people why these guys are the most progressive, they might not know that it's because of this same Jante's law. Jante's law is all about selflessness and communalism. Just like ants, they build together and that makes them to build faster and efficiently. Don't leave your brother behind.

I also can bet that most people against this jante's law of selflessness does not know why Africa has been in a very bad shape for a long time. It's simply because of selfishness and wickedness. Myself and my family....every other person can go to hades.

Talking about how the Scandinavians are mostly mentally ill. I just laugh. I mean how? Because they keep records and we don't? Because they are open about it while we are not? Just how? How many of them blow themselves up? How many live disorderly like most of us do here? Have you been to Lagos, PH, Ogbete in Enugu? Have you been to maiduguru, kano? Have you been to Bronx new York, Brooklyn, Chicago, Compton, Inglewood? Have you been to Lusaka, Mosul, guinea Bissau? I'm even trying to extend the comparison beyond Africa. Oga, please stop these comparison.

As for the characteristics of jante's law you listed, how are they different from the Christian principles or most moral lessons we are given everyday? Does Golden commandment ring a bell?
You guys made it look like they took jante's law and made it full way of life. But that's not true, they refined it to suit themselves and it came out as PROTESTANT WORK ETHIC. In Asia, it's called NEO - CONFUCIANISM. It emphasizes on handwork, frugality, selflessness, discipline, respect for authority and elders, honesty, transparency, communalism etc. Are these not Christian principles assuming you are one?

Jante's law, in other words Protestant work ethic aka NEO CONFUCIANISN developed the Scandinavians. It did the same for most East Asians and now South East Asia. Singapore happened right in our time. Time to stop the hate and wake up bro.

"Africa MUST dare to dream" - Thomas Sankara.

I don’t really need any mental health statistics to know that mental sickness in Africa is far far lower than Scandinavia, with no existing statistics either from Nigeria or Sweden I was able to spot these mental illnesses from Swedes I’ve lived with and remember Nigeria’s population is 18 times that of Sweden. I hadn’t checked any statistics neither did the person tell me first hand before I knew something was just off with this person, nothing like this that I’ve ever seen or witnessed in a large populous compacted metropolitan city like Lagos...so no your argument that we don’t keep records and are socially averse to discuss mental illnesses in Africa does not hold much water, also I need to point out that with the heavy medication they take I was still able to know, so imagine if the person does not take any medications or get any state help then I believe they are going to end up like the street mad men you see on our streets in Africa. As I write this I don’t even have any statistics for the mental sicknesses, if I did I would have posted a link..I’m only writing from personal living experience. Now take a look at this screen shot and it’s coming from a non-African.

How many of them kill themselves by committing suicide? I already shared a link on that.

As for development, is USA practicing jante law? Is USA developed or not? Jante law was not the developmental routes taking to great economics, industrialization was the deal.

Jante law has nothing to do with hard working, team work and highly ambitious society, far from it....go back and read jante law. I’ve been to some zones here where the inhabitants wrote jante law free zone.

https://www.lifeinnorway.net/what-exactly-is-janteloven/

Nuzo1:


I sincerely apologize on behalf of all the small small boys who are fond of comparing foreign ladies to our sweet chocolate down here. It's mostly out of frustration and ignorance.

Your opening sentence clearly states the point I've been trying to make since. African boys are usually overwhelmed by the honest nature of these foreign girls and the next thing is to compare. Their comparison are usually true with facts.

But the mistake is that the difference between these two group of girls is the orientation and environment. Most Nigerian ladies who grew up in these foreign environment usually have the same attitude as the foreigners. Most well paid ladies in Nigeria are fantastic lovers and wives.

I'm very hopeful that Nigeria will pick up soon. When this happens, poverty and income disparity will reduce. The difference in both groups of girls will automatically disappear.

The Nigerian guys who make this disdainful comparison are always doing so on two grounds
1. White girls give more bj’s and do all you want in the bedroom
2. At zero cost...money factor

So it’s more like caged guys who just found some sexual freedom to have free sex at no cost. To me I see it like a case of guys who think with their dicks meeting women who think with their pus...ies. You hardly hear them talk about any meaningful substance or connection that has to do with self development, spiritual empowerment, academical development and family goals which are the standards an average African woman holds you to. As for the money factor, any country that is struggling economically will have socia problems and those problems are not limited to housing alone, they trickle down to dating also.

So Nigerian girls should ignore those low life comments, and keep on been themselves. I don’t care how developed the West is, our fore fathers were not dafts and unintelligent. There are Yoruba proverbs that have been in existence before civilization and they still hold true till today not only in the Africa societies but also in the western societies.

BigChillin:


Refrigerator and A/C repair technician, Plumber, Carpenter, Electrician (automotive and residential), Welders, Computer repairs, Automotive Body repairs, Floor tiles Installers, Bricklayers etc. Out of this list, the first four artisans are in especially short supply. Those ones command whatever rates they wanna charge....and they get it. Them mofos stay busy

Hey bro, what can you say about IT
The Programmers,Developers and the likes

olaboy1:


The major reason they go for men from 3rd world countries is to control them. The feminist states have a deep rooted hate towards men, and the set of men that they can control easily are impoverished men from 3rd world countries, it has nothing to do with the women discovering how awesomely appreciated they are by these men.

Go to Malmo and see for yourself how they date beach boys from Gambia that an average African woman would not even give a time of day for a small chat. I have talked with many women here and everything I write here is fact.

You gave far fetched reasons why the relationships don’t last, but take your time and you would read a part where someone on this thread advice the OP not to allow Naija guys near his Swedish girl friend, have you asked yourself why. The women here have no sexual boundaries who they sleep with, if her body becomes Hot for your cousin or blood brother she is gonna Bleep him...as a matter of fact my friends and I have named them “jumpers” because they can jump to whoever they like anytime they want, and that was why OP’s wife jumped from his younger brother she met online to him with no remorse. In my house party a guy was angry that his Swedish girl friend was flirting with his friend, they got into an argument and the guy left angrily, fast forward to 45 mins later the girl was banging her BF’s friend in my toilet. That’s just one example, I have many many many examples I can’t share here.

If you went back in history you would read about the incest and that is wholly responsible for the mental illnesses as a result of copulation from same gene pool, and that incest even though the govt has put a law in place to make it punishable, that trait of ability to sleep with people of close ties is still in them, coupled with the fact that feminism has taught them they own their bodies and can sleep with whoever they want.

I still think you don’t know the dynamics at play in this quest for relationship with people from 3rd world countries, because from your comment it thus appear you are saying men from 3rd world countries are charming, loving and caring to these European women to a point the women consider their men to be beasts, that’s not true because the men here are rumored to be docile, caring, loving, helping in the kitchen and changing diapers....so what kind of women leave these men for men from 3rd world countries.

Most interracial relationships that hit the rock here are caused by the guy suddenly finding his foot and not able to be controlled anymore. By your admittance you are saying people from 3rd world countries are more family oriented, so why do white folks still feed their people with lies that black men are not good fathers and can’t keep a home, isn’t that contradictory.

Holy sh!t

Nuzo1:


Your reasons don change now now.

First you said they go for third world men out of pity, and when I countered it, you came up with the control narrative. All these I clearly stated in my post you quoted. I don't wish to do a Merry go round if my points are not countered.

You talked about how your friend's babe cheated on him with his friend. How does a couple of cases like that become a general attitude? I really don't want our discussion to get to the point of comparing Nordic girls to their Nigerian counterparts as I clearly stated that their behavior has nothing to do with color but environment. I could still remember I said that Nigerian girl who were born and bread there adopt the same character towards relationships. Besides, the girl in question most likely have shown your friend that their relationship was just for sex....heck why his own friend comfortably and openly slept with her. You may not have even known that the girl was being passed around. It was a plan all the way.

You talked about how the op's girl jumped from his younger brother to the op. But this was a lie as the girl clearly told the young man that he's too young for her and they later became just friends.

Again, their married women are hardly this way. They rather divorce you then go on sex binge than go behind your back to sleep with your gateman for 20 years.

But if we must compare, I will encourage you to Google the women who cheat the most in the world. The research was done by durex condom and their results showed that Nigerian women came 1st. Again, this has nothing to do with color or race but poverty and income disparity. A quick research will show you that a well paid Nigerian or black woman hardly cheats. Same characteristics with most scandinavian ladies.

You talked about incest and how it's been the major cause of their mental illness. Haha... Oga please let's not compare the number of cases of incest in say Sweden and Nigeria. Only have in mind that just like rape, it's underreported back home. I will also encourage you not allow us get to the point of comparing number of mental cases in both worlds.

And yes, African men are mostly good fathers and family oriented. Your research countering this point was a research done on African Americans, not the entire blackmen, not Nigerians.

I also saw where you talk about honesty in scandinavian countries. How it's propelled by the law. I mean, how could you fault such a system? Such systems transform people from bad to good. It has become their culture whether the law is there or not. Why do you think their HDI, SPI, life expectancy, low crime rate, high employment rate etc are on the high side? You think everybody just woke one morning and started doing the right thing? No bro. The law pushed them and they became used to it and it became a culture. Environment of honesty and transparency. See what is happening in Asia, they have picked it up o.

I could still remember some years back when we were coming back from club at around 3am. We decided to take in the early morning fresh air by strolling home. I was new in that environment and wanted to jump the pedestrian traffic light that has no cctv, immediately my friend held me back and politely asked me to hold on to the green light. This was a lonely road o.

Another similar incident occurred recently back home in Nigeria. A young boy fell from a 3 storey building and broke his skull. You cannot imagine the pool of blood. The entire Street circled the boy within minutes. For several minutes, nobody agreed to go near him. And when my friend quickly rushed to the scene, he saw a young scandinavian lady sitting by the boy's side and massaging and singing for him until my friend and the boy's father was able to get a means of transportation. The entire Street refused to go near the the boy except for this "dumb Swedish" lady who recently relocated with his Nigerian husband back home. The boy survived as it has to be a miracle.

Their law, the punishment and reward system pushes them to be better people to themselves and to their neighbors. This transforms them to be honest people and later it becomes their culture. What's wrong with this?

Minnesota is one of the best and most progressive States in the USA. Most of the citizens of this state are Swedish migrants. They brought in the same culture of honesty from their old country. The progressive nature of Minnesota is tied to this culture.

Finally, I know they are exceptional cases, but I think it's wrong to say that it's out of pity or the quest for control are the reasons scandinavian ladies go into relationships with 3rd world men.

Sir, you won my respect

Lorax:
I still don't understand why whenever a Nigerian guy travels out the first thing he does is to compare the girls in that Country with girls in Nigeria. Telling us how we are not good enough or how materialistic we are forgetting that they have sisters and female relatives in Nigeria which are also included. If the girls there do not play hard to get we are insulted for it, if they play hard to get we are still insulted. If they dress and look better we are insulted about how ugly we look, if we dress better we are insulted about how overdressed we look. If they dress half unclad they are admired and applauded for allowing them see how sexy they look, if we dress half unclad we are called prostitutes and what not. Please we are tired of the insults and comparison. Nigerian girls outside the Country get married to foreigners on daily basis and you don't see them go about comparing them with Nigerian guys let alone insult them. Nigerian guys even behave far worse than the girls.

It still doesn't change the fact that you Nigerian girls are nothing to write home about.

You expect the guy to do everything, to bring money,to bring gifts.

A Naija girl will never tell her boyfriend "Honey, let's go out for lunch,the bill is on me"

A Naija girl believes the man must always be the one to spend.

A Naija girl will never present gifts to her boyfriend except on special occasions like birthday and what do they present? Boxers? Singlets? Wey full our closet

You girls really need to change your orientation and way of thinking. This is the 21st century

olaboy1:


I don’t really need any mental health statistics to know that mental sickness in Africa is far far lower than Scandinavia, with no existing statistics either from Nigeria or Sweden I was able to spot these mental illnesses from Swedes I’ve lived with and remember Nigeria’s population is 18 times that of Sweden. I hadn’t checked any statistics neither did the person tell me first hand before I knew something was just off with this person, nothing like this that I’ve ever seen or witnessed in a large populous compacted metropolitan city like Lagos...so no your argument that we don’t keep records and are socially averse to discuss mental illnesses in Africa does not hold much water, also I need to point out that with the heavy medication they take I was still able to know, so imagine if the person does not take any medications or get any state help then I believe they are going to end up like the street mad men you see on our streets in Africa. As I write this I don’t even have any statistics for the mental sicknesses, if I did I would have posted a link..I’m only writing from personal living experience. Now take a look at this screen shot and it’s coming from a non-African.

How many of them kill themselves by committing suicide? I already shared a link on that.

As for development, is USA practicing jante law? Is USA developed or not? Jante law was not the developmental routes taking to great economics, industrialization was the deal.

Jante law has nothing to do with hard working, team work and highly ambitious society, far from it....go back and read jante law. I’ve been to some zones here where the inhabitants wrote jante law free zone.

https://www.lifeinnorway.net/what-exactly-is-janteloven/

Jante's law comes with a lot of good perks. You only decided to see everything wrong with the Scandinavians using the almost non existent negative aspects of jante's law.

Jante's law is what developed the Nordic countries. The law still keeps them developed. It's what makes them the happiest people on earth. HDI, SPI high. Poverty, income disparity, low mortality, crime rate all VERY LOW. Life expectancy very high. What else can a people want?

It builds an orderly society. It's all about equality. It never leaves anybody especially the weak behind. It seeks to make the president and the barrow pusher understand that their lives is of the same value. I mean, is that not what we've been yearning for back home? Is that not the same value system our religious houses teach us?

Jealous and greedy Americans coined a derogatory name for them; dumb swedes just because these people have decided to see the good in everybody. They believe and help you when they can and as much as their power can take them. You cheat them, they are quick to forgive.

And yes, America developed because of similar law. Please read their history. Now, they are beginning to underdevelope because they discarded their core values of selflessness, honesty and communalism. They picked selfishness and greed. It will just be a matter of time before the system collapses.

Jante's law is not different from Protestant work ethic, it's not different from neo confucianism. It's not different from Christ teachings. It's about service, it's about humility and selflessness.

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Below is an article detailing how the Nordic especially the Danes used jante's law to their advantage. Currently, the Danes are the happiest people on earth partly because jante's law.

https://qz.com/794740/the-happiness-of-the-danes-can-easily-be-explained-by-10-cultural-rules/

TheManOfTheYear:
It still doesn't change the fact that you Nigerian girls are nothing to write home about.

You expect the guy to do everything, to bring money,to bring gifts.

A Naija girl will never tell her boyfriend "Honey, let's go out for lunch,the bill is on me"

A Naija girl believes the man must always be the one to spend.

A Naija girl will never present gifts to her boyfriend except on special occasions like birthday and what do they present? Boxers? Singlets? Wey full our closet

You girls really need to change your orientation and way of thinking. This is the 21st century

And the guys are something to write home about? The one's that that sleep with anything in skirt or the ones that feel threatened by the success of a female or is it the ones that maltreats the females or wait is it the one's that can kill his brother over property? Look at a Nigerian guy feeling like a saint because we chose to keep quiet.

TheManOfTheYear:
It still doesn't change the fact that you Nigerian girls are nothing to write home about.

You expect the guy to do everything, to bring money,to bring gifts.

A Naija girl will never tell her boyfriend "Honey, let's go out for lunch,the bill is on me"

A Naija girl believes the man must always be the one to spend.

A Naija girl will never present gifts to her boyfriend except on special occasions like birthday and what do they present? Boxers? Singlets? Wey full our closet

You girls really need to change your orientation and way of thinking. This is the 21st century

And the fact that you date a girl that don't feel you are worth a gift from her is no ones fault.

Heycube:


What is the duration pls...

6months

Nuzo1:


Jante's law comes with a lot of good perks. You only decided to see everything wrong with the Scandinavians using the almost non existent negative aspects of jante's law.

Jante's law is what developed the Nordic countries. The law still keeps them developed. It's what makes them the happiest people on earth. HDI, SPI high. Poverty, income disparity, low mortality, crime rate all VERY LOW. Life expectancy very high. What else can a people want?

It builds an orderly society. It's all about equality. It never leaves anybody especially the weak behind. It seeks to make the president and the barrow pusher understand that their lives is of the same value. I mean, it's that not what we've been yearning for back home? It's that not the same value system our religious houses teach us?

Jante's law is not different from Protestant work ethic, it's not different from neo confucianism. It's not different from Christ teachings. It's about service, it's about humility.

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Below is an article detailing how the Nordic especially the Danes used jante's law to their advantage. Currently, the Danes are the happiest people on earth partly because jante's law.

https://qz.com/794740/the-happiness-of-the-danes-can-easily-be-explained-by-10-cultural-rules/

You are confusing social cultural behaviors with economic boom, jante law was formed in 1930 by Danish author Aksel Sandemose way way after Danish industrialization in 1890. The prosperity of the country didn’t have anything to do with jante law, jante law was initially a beef between the two warring countries (Denmark and Sweden), as Danes took a swipe on Swedes with the jante law before it became adopted all over Scandinavia...jante law was created as a rivalry sling shot and not the Scandinavia economic model today’s social media is trying to paint.

The Scandinavian model was a combination of free market capitalism with a comprehensive welfare state and collective bargaining at the national level, they are practicing social democracy and jante law to me is anti-social. So Nigeria does not need any jante law to become prosperous, we need to tackle corruption first with the right institutions.

And I never said they marry men from 3rd world countries out of pity. What I wrote initially was that they do it just to massage their low self esteem.

And by reading your posts I can see you are yet to tear into the skin of this society, which is understandable because we all roll in this society at different places and with different people.

Just because the white man/woman has perfected his antics and game doesn’t mean you believe everything you read from Durex condom by saying Nigerian women cheat the most. I’m sure you don’t know Swedes do juju, and you would argue that also.

If your Swedish is good I will post several links from closed forums to know what’s going on underground here. They cheat more than Nigerian women sir, and I am categorically stating this. The cheating always happen on weekends after vodka as they all told me that’s when we get so hor..ny

As for generalizations, I’m not a kid who doesn’t understand what it means to generalize, but Sweden is the only country I am not worried about generalizing about, they do not only look phenotypically the same, they act same way. Swedes know this so you don’t need to argue about this because they have all admitted this. Nigeria is 180m and we don’t look alike right? So go back and read the incest I talked about, it doesn’t just make people look alike it also makes them behave alike, we are talking genes and DNA here.

The guy cheated on is an ethnic white Swede in a 5yr living together civil partnership with his girl, just so you don’t think it’s a case of a blonde bimbo just using my African friend for sex.