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Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Niflheim(m): 1:53pm On Nov 16, 2017
Correction time!!!

1."humans never evolved from anything"...........................................Yes we did!!! We evolved from proto-primates(the earliest form of primates)!!! You do know that humans are primates don't you?


2."then why haven't we evoked again".................................................You mean why haven't we evolved again? And who told you that humans are not still evolving? So you have not heard of lactose intolerance, osteopetrosis, mutation of the CCR5-delta 32 gene which makes humans virtually immune to the AIDS virus? I do not think you even understand what Evolution is about or what it even explains!!!


3."Why arnt monkeys evolving again"...........................................................I ill refer you back to number 2!!! Spider monkeys have only 4 fingers while the rest of the monkey species have 5!!! The Colobine monkey has a 4 chambered stomach, while the rest of the monkey species do not!!! Where do you think the spider monkey got his 4 fingers? From watching the Fantastic Four? How did the colobine monkey eventually develop a four chambered stomach? Was he watching basketball matches that featured Wilt 'the stilt" Chamberlain?


4."Humans never evolved, there was no evolution..!"........................................................This is like saying that their were albinos in the mythical garden of Eden, and all albinos alive today are descendants of the first albino(albino one), when in fact albinism is caused by a mutation in dark skinned people and we all know what will happen when all the mutated albinos start marrying themselves!!! They will create a race of albinos(new set of humans that are all sensitive to sunlight, with bad eye sight and sun burns)!!! Now imagine a person, seeing these albinos and saying, "THEY WERE LIKE THIS FROM THE BEGINNING, THEY WERE CREATED IN GOD'S IMAGE, THIS IS THE IMAGE OF GOD(a god with bad eye sight)"................................................................That person is you!!!


You do not understand what evolution tries to explain, and it is not a crime, but why now pretending as if you know what you are talking about? undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided

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Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Graycoder: 2:08pm On Nov 16, 2017
Fekwa:


My beliefs are grounded in evidence and I have done my best to present these evidences, except if you haven't read my responses on this thread.

SIGH. Fermi's paradox is one. I have to admit this particular question is very amusing, for obvious reasons.

I've read more about evolution that you possibly have. Why don't you challenge all the points I have been making on this thread and support your arguments with proof.

You have not provided any evidence, you have only provided controversies. Science is not a closed ideology that will reject the possibilities of the existence of Aliens.

And if you have clear pieces of evidence, then saying you believe is totally wrong, you should have claimed you know.

I don't know why you would assume that the Hominoidea(Apes) who lived millions of years couldn't have erected the structures that seem like mysteries to you.

You have simply assumed that there were some structures that couldn't have been possible if Aliens did not exist. How did you arrive at this conclusion? What gave you the intuition that the Hominoids who lived before us couldn't have erected them?

This is just another controversial claim along with the ones who have come before you. It is not scientific.

Claiming there are unseen Aliens is the same as claiming there is God somewhere. Aliens should appear to me in my room or to us in Nigeria or Ghana and not just the US. Or do we have to summon them before they come?

This makes a lot of sense when you compare the skeletons and fossils of Homo-erectus which mainstream science tells us we evolved from and recognize the massive transformational changes that couldn't possibly have occurred through evolution and definitely not during such space of time.
I am still waiting for the evidence you have provided for your postulations of the efficacy of time when it comes to evolution.

I believe that at a certain point in history, aliens manipulated the genes of Homo-Erectus and Homo-Neanderthals, did some mixing and hence humans were created.

Also, I am waiting for the evidence you have for this genetic manipulation you claim or believe that extraterrestrial bodies carried out to create humans.


Besides, I did not read about evolution. I studied it and I am still studying Genetics, under the umbrella of Biochemistry. So I doubt that you know evolution as I do or more.

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Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by iamnlia(m): 2:25pm On Nov 16, 2017
Graycoder:


Are you specifically telling us what evolution of the human race would have turned out to be? Have you seen instances of evolutionary processes before?

Intelligent people have pointed it out that it takes millions of years. Just like the Hominini(humans) diverted from the Gorrilini(gorillas) some 9 million years ago. What gave you the intuition that 9 million years is too small for incredible changes?

I think the topic of evolution and what it really means needs to be revisited.

Thank you.
Evolution is the change in heritable characteristics which is facilitated by the necessity to survive, right?
It's the biological system of an organism learning and unlearning.

There is evidence that sharks have been around for about 420 million years!. If by the standards of supposed human evolution, these sharks should walk and be amphibians,right? At least 420 million years ain't beans but they have evolved only a few body parts like the jaw because of the necessity to hunt and survive.

The humanoids form seemingly received a brand new brain and a complete overhaul when you compare us to the earlier humanoids, they teach in schools that our ancestors were cavemen and worked with stones and sticks but can't explain structures built over 10,000 years ago like pyramids of Giza and the rest, Goebekli Tepe is 13,000 years! Which cavemen built those?


Summary is that evolution is very minute and happens over a span of time according to challenges to survival.
The next step in human evolution may be on a molecular level because we are the perfect biological specie.
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Fekwa(f): 2:41pm On Nov 16, 2017
Graycoder:


You have not provided any evidence, you have only provided controversies. Science is not a closed ideology that will reject the possibilities of the existence of Aliens.

And if you have clear pieces of evidence, then saying you believe is totally wrong, you should have claimed you know.

I don't know why you would assume that the Hominoidea(Apes) who lived millions of years couldn't have erected the structures that seem like mysteries to you.

You have simply assumed that there were some structures that couldn't have been possible if Aliens did not exist. How did you arrive at this conclusion? What gave you the intuition that the Hominoids who lived before us couldn't have erected them?

This is just another controversial claim along with the ones who have come before you. It is not scientific.

Claiming there are unseen Aliens is the same as claiming there is God somewhere. Aliens should appear to me in my room or to us in Nigeria or Ghana and not just the US. Or do we have to summon them before they come?


I am still waiting for the evidence you have provided for your postulations of the efficacy of time when it comes to evolution.



Also, I am waiting for the evidence you have for this genetic manipulation you claim or believe that extraterrestrial bodies carried out to create humans.


Besides, I did not read about evolution. I studied it and I am still studying Genetics, under the umbrella of Biochemistry. So I doubt that you know evolution as I do or more.

Wait, you think the hominoid apes who lived millions of years ago erected structures like the Sphinx, the obelisks and Geobekli tepe? grin grin This is so funny.

I am certain the hominoids apes didn't erect those structures because they didn't have the tools or the brain to do that. Simple. How can you even argue this?

But lots of people have had encounters with aliens while using drugs like DMT? Lots of people have described life encounters with alien forms through altered states of consciousness and have expressed corroborative claims? A man named Phil Schneider had real encounters with grey aliens and even claimed to have shot one. His actual whistle blowing speeches are on YouTube for you to watch. Lots of people have stories of alien abductions. In fact the most striking story is that of Barney and Betty hill which you should read about. There have been literally thousands of sightings of UFOs post world war 2. There is drawings of UFOs in ancient art. Don't draw an analogy between my claim and the one theists make of God. In my case I have lots of evidence.

The sumerians in their texts described the process by which the genetic manipulation was done. According to them, the second and third strands of our DNA were fused in order to allow for mixing of the genes of the primates and that of the alien species, because primate species had 48, while the genes by which were used to create us had 46 chromosomes. This was mentioned thousands of years before the field of genetics was found. Now our knowledge of genetics tells us the same thing. Humans have 2 chromosomes less than other primates.
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Fekwa(f): 2:46pm On Nov 16, 2017
iamnlia:

Evolution is the change in heritable characteristics which is facilitated by the necessity to survive, right?
It's the biological system of an organism learning and unlearning.

There is evidence that sharks have been around for about 420 million years!. If by the standards of supposed human evolution, these sharks should walk and be amphibians,right? At least 420 million years ain't beans but they have evolved only a few body parts like the jaw because of the necessity to hunt and survive.

The humanoids form seemingly received a brand new brain and a complete overhaul when you compare us to the earlier humanoids, they teach in schools that our ancestors were cavemen and worked with stones and sticks but can't explain structures built over 10,000 years ago like pyramids of Giza and the rest, Goebekli Tepe is 13,000 years! Which cavemen built those?


Summary is that evolution is very minute and happens over a span of time according to challenges to survival.
The next step in human evolution may be on a molecular level because we are the perfect biological specie.

Preach!!!! cheesy cheesy
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Graycoder: 2:54pm On Nov 16, 2017
iamnlia:

Evolution is the change in heritable characteristics which is facilitated by the necessity to survive, right?
It's the biological system of an organism learning and unlearning.

There is evidence that sharks have been around for about 420 million years!. If by the standards of supposed human evolution, these sharks should walk and be amphibians,right? At least 420 million years ain't beans but they have evolved only a few body parts like the jaw because of the necessity to hunt and survive.

NO to the bolded above, This is an abuse of evolution. And a lot of you folks who don't understand zilch about evolution just go about spewing the wrong ideas you have about the whole process of Evolution.

It's very sad that you defined evolution correctly but you spoiled it with what you think personally about it. Now read carefully, please.

If evolution is the change in heritable characteristics over successive generations and influenced by the need to survive, then Sharks can never grow legs and walk. Why? Because nothing can walk in water which is their natural habitat.
They will only develop body parts that will make them survive in their natural habitats, I'm glad you mentioned that. We are not talking about magic here. You need to understand evolution clearly. Hope you are following?

Evolution is not the transformation of biological classes to another(Pisces to Amphibians). It is the formation of species, that's why you cannot understand evolution without understanding speciation.


iamnlia:

The humanoids form seemingly received a brand new brain and a complete overhaul when you compare us to the earlier humanoids, they teach in schools that our ancestors were cavemen and worked with stones and sticks but can't explain structures built over 10,000 years ago like pyramids of Giza and the rest, Goebekli Tepe is 13,000 years! Which cavemen built those?

How do you want structures to be explained? The structures were built, so be it, damn it!!! The humanoids built it, what's hard there? The people of the future will be more developed than we are today, does it mean we are not developed? I don't know what's hard to think there. You are just too lazy to think it out, I guess.

Whether we received a new brain or not, the primates before us also had brains. So they could have built the structures with the brain they had, they survived for a long time too. Some of them could have been intelligent than others. Just like it is today, I am still surprised at the level of some people's stupidity.


iamnlia:

Summary is that evolution is very minute and happens over a span of time according to challenges to survival.
The next step in human evolution may be on a molecular level because we are the perfect biological specie.

Yes, exactly. Evolution is slow and that's why you or anyone cannot measure it. You should really understand it than try to claim you do.

It's very obvious you don't know more than monkey turning to humans when it comes to evolution. That's not how it works bro. Use this link, please.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

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Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Nobody: 3:07pm On Nov 16, 2017
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Nobody: 3:07pm On Nov 16, 2017
Fekwa:


Wait, you think the hominoid apes who lived millions of years ago erected structures like the Sphinx, the obelisks and Geobekli tepe? grin grin This is so funny.

I am certain the hominoids apes didn't erect those structures because they didn't have the tools or the brain to do that. Simple. How can you even argue this?
Errr...... MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO? You think the Sphinx was erected millions of years ago, or what are you talking about?

How can you say they do not have the brains? What makes you think you're smarter than them? The Greek philosophers are infinitely smarter than many ordinary people in the modern age. You mean the Egyptians couldn't have had the brains to erect the Sphinx like Plato couldn't have had the brain to write his books and develop his complex philosophy? grin

This is ridiculous


But lots of people have had encounters with aliens while using drugs like DMT? Lots of people have described life encounters with alien forms through altered states of consciousness and have expressed corroborative claims? A man named Phil Schneider had real encounters with grey aliens and even claimed to have shot one. His actual whistle blowing speeches are on YouTube for you to watch. Lots of people have stories of alien abductions. In fact the most striking story is that of Barney and Betty hill which you should read about. There have been literally thousands of sightings of UFOs post world war 2. There is drawings of UFOs in ancient art. Don't draw an analogy between my claim and the one theists make of God. In my case I have lots of evidence.
Many people have met God and encountered angels too. I guess their claims should be taken as true as well.

The sumerians in their texts described the process by which the genetic manipulation was done. According to them, the second and third strands of our DNA were fused in order to allow for mixing of the genes of the primates and that of the alien species, because primate species had 48, while the genes by which were used to create us had 46 chromosomes. This was mentioned thousands of years before the field of genetics was found. Now our knowledge of genetics tells us the same thing. Humans have 2 chromosomes less than other primates.

LMAO. Are you kidding me?! Ancient Sumerians knew about the DNA?! grin
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Graycoder: 3:09pm On Nov 16, 2017
Fekwa:


Wait, you think the hominoid apes who lived millions of years ago erected structures like the Sphinx, the obelisks and Geobekli tepe? grin grin This is so funny.

I am certain the hominoids apes didn't erect those structures because they didn't have the tools or the brain to do that. Simple. How can you even argue this?

What's actually funny is that you are sure that the hominoids who lived couldn't have built it because you have their brain and you have tested the efficacy of the brain, right? grin grin

The only evidence science has is the fossils of the beings. We only postulate theories on the brain because of the size of the skulls we found. Nobody can measure how complex their brains were. We only know they were not as complex as ours. It doesn't mean they were dumb for Pete's sake.

Fekwa:

But lots of people have had encounters with aliens while using drugs like DMT? Lots of people have described life encounters with alien forms through altered states of consciousness and have expressed corroborative claims? A man named Phil Schneider had real encounters with grey aliens and even claimed to have shot one. His actual whistle blowing speeches are on YouTube for you to watch. Lots of people have stories of alien abductions. In fact the most striking story is that of Barney and Betty hill which you should read about. There have been literally thousands of sightings of UFOs post world war 2. There is drawings of UFOs in ancient art. Don't draw an analogy between my claim and the one theists make of God. In my case I have lots of evidence.

You just killed this discussion by mentioning N,N-Dimethyltryptamine, a psychedelic drug... Lol

If people have met Aliens when they are hallucinating, then I give up. I should not even be arguing this with you. Or you don't know you can also see God when you hallucinate? Lol grin grin grin grin.
All other claims you have up there are controversies. If they have encounters with Aliens let them bring these Aliens out in the public or shut the fuck_ up.

Your pieces of evidence are the same as theists pieces of evidence. It goes like "Something is somewhere, but we can't show you."

Fekwa:

The sumerians in their texts described the process by which the genetic manipulation was done. According to them, the second and third strands of our DNA were fused in order to allow for mixing of the genes of the primates and that of the alien species, because primate species had 48, while the genes by which were used to create us had 46 chromosomes. This was mentioned thousands of years before the field of genetics was found. Now our knowledge of genetics tells us the same thing. Humans have 2 chromosomes less than other primates.


Lo, this last one is funny. I think you high on DMT, N,N-Dimethyltryptamine

I think this is satire. grin grin grin grin
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Graycoder: 3:12pm On Nov 16, 2017
Kaderayayomikun:
Errr...... MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO? You think the Sphinx was erected millions of years ago, or what are you talking about?

How can you say they do not have the brains? What makes you think you're smarter than them? The Greek philosophers are infinitely smarter than many ordinary people in the modern age. You mean the Egyptians couldn't have had the brains to erect the Sphinx like Plato couldn't have had the brain to write his books and develop his complex philosophy? grin

This is ridiculous


Many people have met God and encountered angels too. I guess their claims should be taken as true as well.

LMAO. Are you kidding me?! Ancient Sumerians knew about the DNA?! grin


It's very funny we both find her post hilarious as hell. I think she is just testing her satirical skills. grin grin grin
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by iamnlia(m): 3:22pm On Nov 16, 2017
Graycoder:


NO to the bolded above, This is an abuse of evolution. And a lot of you folks who don't understand zilch about evolution just go about spewing the wrong ideas you have about the whole process of Evolution.

It's very sad that you defined evolution correctly but you spoiled it with what you think personally about it. Now read carefully, please.

If evolution is the change in heritable characteristics over successive generations and influenced by the need to survive, then Sharks can never grow legs and walk. Why? Because nothing can walk in water which is their natural habitat.
They will only develop body parts that will make them survive in their natural habitats, I'm glad you mentioned that. We are not talking about magic here. You need to understand evolution clearly. Hope you are following?

Evolution is not the transformation of biological classes to another(Pisces to Amphibians). It is the formation of species, that's why you cannot understand evolution without understanding speciation.




How do you want structures to be explained? The structures were built, so be it, damn it!!! The humanoids built it, what's hard there? The people of the future will be more developed than we are today, does it mean we are not developed? I don't know what's hard to think there. You are just too lazy to think it out, I guess.

Whether we received a new brain or not, the primates before us also had brains. So they could have built the structures with the brain they had, they survived for a long time too. Some of them could have been intelligent than others. Just like it is today, I am still surprised at the level of some people's stupidity.




Yes, exactly. Evolution is slow and that's why you or anyone cannot measure it. You should really understand it than try to claim you do.

It's very obvious you don't know more than monkey turning to humans when it comes to evolution. That's not how it works bro. Use this link, please.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
I will refrain from subjecting myself to your anti-research and abusive level of thinking.

If you really understood the use of language, you'd know that I simply compared the argument of rapid human evolution to a figurative possibility of shark evolution using the same standards.


I realized that either you don't know anything about ancient megalithic structures or you're averse to learning new things because an inquisitive mind would immediately start research on those aforementioned structures and not make some illiterate and bogus statements that they were built by Stone men.

If only you had supplied your own points instead of attacking my persona, I would have been happy to share information with you but now I'm reluctant to share with someone who can't make basic research and can't really comprehend English.
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Graycoder: 3:34pm On Nov 16, 2017
iamnlia:

I will refrain from subjecting myself to your anti-research and abusive level of thinking.

If you really understood the use of language, you'd know that I simply compared the argument of rapid human evolution to a figurative possibility of shark evolution using the same standards.


I realized that either you don't know anything about ancient megalithic structures or you're averse to learning new things because an inquisitive mind would immediately start research on those aforementioned structures and not make some illiterate and bogus statements that they were built by Stone men.

If only you had supplied your own points instead of attacking my persona, I would have been happy to share information with you but now I'm reluctant to share with someone who can't make basic research and can't really comprehend English.

Seriously if I was close to you, I would have dented on your cheek a hot slap right now.

Are you illiterate or what? You are the one who does not understand the use of English language. Because if you do then you will know that figurative thinking(abstract) cannot be used as an analogy to literal(factual) thinking.

Besides, you didn't even compare, you stated that example as one of the faults of evolution, there's no need to be defensive now. You don't simply understand EVOLUTION. Don't be shy about it, you can't know everything.

And the human development is not rapid, we started 9-8 million years ago, stop spewing trash here. You don't know zilch about evolution.

If you see the truth as personal attacks on your persona, then please refrain. Because I can't also condone the abuse of science from a non-scientific persona.


I am bemused that you think "Stone men" cannot build. You have baseless claims just because you don't understand the process. Please refrain, I cannot continue discussing with an ignoramus myself.

You think I don't know about those structures and the controversies surrounding them that you and your companion decided to disturb us with?

However, it doesn't distort the phenomenon of evolution, deal with it bro.
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by NairalandSARS: 3:35pm On Nov 16, 2017
Genitically engineered by whom?

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Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by iamnlia(m): 3:38pm On Nov 16, 2017
Kaderayayomikun:
Errr...... MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO? You think the Sphinx was erected millions of years ago, or what are you talking about?

How can you say they do not have the brains? What makes you think you're smarter than them? The Greek philosophers are infinitely smarter than many ordinary people in the modern age. You mean the Egyptians couldn't have had the brains to erect the Sphinx like Plato couldn't have had the brain to write his books and develop his complex philosophy? grin

This is ridiculous


Many people have met God and encountered angels too. I guess their claims should be taken as true as well.

LMAO. Are you kidding me?! Ancient Sumerians knew about the DNA?! grin
Millions of years actually refers to hominids not Sphinx and the sphinx actually dates at least 11,000 years ago.

The Egyptians have the brains but the geometry and engineering of the pyramids far exceeds the purported tech of that time.

Angels and the likes could be comprehended if you delve into spirituality (not religion)
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by iamnlia(m): 3:40pm On Nov 16, 2017
Graycoder:


Seriously if I was close to you, I would have dented on your cheek a hot slap right now.

Are you illiterate or what? You are the one who does not understand the use of English language. Because if you do then you will know that figurative thinking(abstract) cannot be used as an analogy to literal(factual) thinking.

Besides, you didn't even compare, you stated that example as one of the faults of evolution, there's no need to be defensive now. You don't simply understand EVOLUTION. Don't be shy about it, you can't know everything.

And the human development is not rapid, we started 9-8 million years ago, stop spewing trash here. You don't know zilch about evolution.

If you see the truth as personal attacks on your persona, then please refrain. Because I can't also condone the abuse of science from a non-scientific persona.


I am bemused that you think "Stone men" cannot build. You have baseless claims just because you don't understand the process. Please refrain, I cannot continue discussing with an ignoramus myself.

You think I don't know about those structures and the controversies surrounding them that you and your companion decided to disturb us with?

However, it doesn't distort the phenomenon of evolution, deal with it bro.
Once again, you can't produce facts.

Stone men cannot achieve that level of engineering.
There is historic evidence from the Sumerians and the obvious disparity in characteristics as evidence of extraterrestrial interaction and bioengineering respectively.

There were also elongated skulls recovered from Peru and they have mitochondrial DNA with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known.

The difference between the two humanoid forms cannot be achieved by mere evolutionary terms.
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by donnffd(m): 3:44pm On Nov 16, 2017
Fekwa:


There is actually literally evidence of thousands of sightings of bigfoot around the world and all these sightings say the same thing. Also, try reading about the Olma. This was also a hominoid with primate morphology that unlike bigfoot actually lived, bred and interacted with humans.

1. I didn't point out any flaws. I just explained the morphological transformations that occurred in the supposed evolution of humans from homoerectus within a short period of time that going by the current Darwinian paradigm of evolution, is practically impossible.

2. Come on, it's not just the lesser bone structure, it's that and a slew of other transformations. Look, I have read about evolution and I understand that evolutionary changes can occur within species, but this evolutionary changes aren't usually holistic and they always leave intermediate evidences. If the homo erectus evolved just a protruded forehead, I could have just brushed it aside and said wow, amazing stuff. But they didn't just evolve protruded foreheads, the entire morphology of their face underwent a complete transformation, not a transition. And this happened simultaneously as the bone mass and bone density was transforming, the design of their throats were transforming, the skin on their bodies was undergoing a change, their brains also were undergoing a transformation, their arm length, their relative sizes etc all were simultaneously undergoing transformations. This isn't how evolution works. The changes are usually gradual and extremely slow, and occur over a long long period of time and there is proof of intermediate species.

No, you sort of have the facts wrong. We are told that about 2.8 million years ago, the homo habilis evolved from the Australopithecus species and separated from them. About 1.9 million years ago the Homo Erectus then evolved from the Homo Habilis. We are also told that this homo erectus species lived till around 160,000 years ago with their distinctive characteristics and within this time frame, homo sapiens(present day humans) evolved from them. So prior to 160,000 years ago, homo-sapiens never existed. This is evidence by the fact that the earliest fossils of homo sapiens that have been found are dated to about 154,000 -160,000 years old. So we can estimate that the branching away of homo sapiens from homo erectus occurred around 150,000 - 160,000 years ago. The homo erectus still maintained their form even around 160,000 years ago. So your evolution from homo-erectus to homosapiens began to occur around this time. Doesn't this seem off to you? And you have to bear in mind that for millions of years since the Australopithecus species, the morphology of primates have stayed similarly alike relative to the changes that occurred during our "evolution."

Please don't categorize me amongst those who are unschooled on Darwinian evolution. Like I told someone earlier, I have read lots of Richard Dawkins and I have read books on evolutionary biology. I am not an illiterate on the subject, but when I collide with facts I have to submit to facts.

I am glad you well informed on the Darwinian Matter, but i am sorry to say but your figures seems to be off...

Even if homo-erectus went extinct 160,000years ago that doesnt mean homo-sapiens were born at that same time period

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/07/health/oldest-homo-sapiens-fossils-found/index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/07/oldest-homo-sapiens-bones-ever-found-shake-foundations-of-the-human-story

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/06/world-s-oldest-homo-sapiens-fossils-found-morocco

I was careful to pick out credible and reliable sources as the names of the sites suggests...

Homo-sapiens have been around for atleast 300,000years, so if truly the homo-erectus went extinct later than that, then it means some sapiens lived along side with the erectus...

Now erectus evolved 1.9 million years ago, so somewhere along the line they produced the sapien line but we cant be exact on the timeframe.

I respect that you do know what you are talking about, but i dont see time as an issue here, it is not impossible for sapiens to have evolved those features from their ancestors in these time frame, not at all
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Graycoder: 3:45pm On Nov 16, 2017
iamnlia:

Once again, you can't produce facts.

Stone men cannot achieve that level of engineering.

Can't I produce facts? What about their brains, isn't that enough facts for you? grin grin

At least we found their fossil records, and we saw their skulls.

On the other hand, you're the one who does not have facts here. Where are your Aliens, are you one?

Do you have their fossil records?

Luckily for you and Fekwa, just like she pointed out, you have to HALLUCINATE before you can find Aliens. That's really ridiculous grin

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Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Graycoder: 3:49pm On Nov 16, 2017
donnffd:


I am glad you well informed on the Darwinian Matter, but i am sorry to say but your figures seems to be off...

Even if homo-erectus went extinct 160,000years ago that doesnt mean homo-sapiens were born at that same time period

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/07/health/oldest-homo-sapiens-fossils-found/index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/07/oldest-homo-sapiens-bones-ever-found-shake-foundations-of-the-human-story

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/06/world-s-oldest-homo-sapiens-fossils-found-morocco

I was careful to pick out credible and reliable sources as the names of the sites suggests...

Homo-sapiens have been around for atleast 300,000years, so if truly the homo-erectus went extinct later than that, then it means some sapiens lived along side with the erectus...

Now erectus evolved 1.9 million years ago, so somewhere along the line they produced the sapien line but we cant be exact on the timeframe.

I respect that you do know what you are talking about, but i dont see time as an issue here, it is not impossible for sapiens to have evolved those features from their ancestors in these time frame, not at all

You have time, I discovered this thread is a satire when she mentioned DMT is used to sense Aliens. What more is there to discuss.


I wonder why they became the supervisors of evolution. Evolution for one is not time-dependent. And it is slow.

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Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Nobody: 3:50pm On Nov 16, 2017
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Nobody: 3:51pm On Nov 16, 2017
Fekwa:


The answer to your first question is in my replies to donffd.

That I can't say for now. I don't have enough information to address this question.

There are lots of different kind of alien species and I believe the government of the United states, China and Russia have interacted with some and are currently interacting with them.
Conspiracy theory. I smell conspiracy theory. Let me tell you, conspiracy theories are just as ridiculous and laughable as the Abrahamic religions, and sometimes, they tend to be much more ridiculous and unbelievable.

The governments of America and China have been interacting with Aliens? How did you find out about these top secret encounters? You think the CIA is an inept organization that can't keep government secrets, and will let you in on it so easily? The billions of dollars spent on intelligence and security are just for pomp and ceremony? Even if the American government is in contact with aliens and wants to hide it from you, there's no way you would know.

I'm absolutely sure you have no evidence to substantiate this claim---apart from outlandish theories and speculations that hold no water.


Aliens have always shown themselves. History is awash with pictures and artwork depicting alien forms and Space ships. Lots of medieval painting have pictures of spacecrafts in them.
What's for sure is that no ancient cultures believed in aliens from other worlds. They all believed in a very small, contained universe, with only chaos outside. No one from outside the cosmos could have entered it. Since all of the ancients believed in gods in the sky, it's not at all surprising that they believed in chariots coming down from the sky. They were simply the celestial versions of commonplace terrestial chariots. They were not spaceships!

Some clever fiction writers simply converted ancient tales of powerful gods coming down to the mortal earth from the heavens above- SOMETHING WHOLLY CONSISTENT WITH ALL ANCIENT RELIGIONS - into tales of astronauts and aliens arriving in UFOs and having their visits recorded by the ancients.

If any aliens had visited earth and taught the people anything, the beliefs of the ancients would have been radically different, and their cosmology would have been unrecognisable.

No aliens came down and genetically engineered humanity


Even in our present day there are a litany of evidences of stories of space craft(ufo) sightings and alien abductions.
In an age where nearly everyone has a camera phone. Hehehehe. Abeg, we all know hallucination is real! Anecdotal evidence is no evidence.

Read about the Roswell crash and the grey alien coverup. Read about operation bluebook. Read about the whistle blowers like the Canadian senator who came out to blow the whistle on the interaction with the US government and alien species. Read about the world war two sightings of sophisticated, light speed fast UFOs seen by both the allied and the axis forces. Read about the Arecibo message. Read about the Tehran incident. Read about area 51. Read about people like Phil Schneider who had lots of assassination attempts on his life and who was finally killed because he revealed information about aliens he had personal contact with while working for the CIA in Area 51. Read about Edward snowdens leaked CIA document on alien files. There is an avalanche of evidence suggesting alien existence and interaction with humans.
Okei. Okei. I'll find time to check them out.
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Nobody: 3:56pm On Nov 16, 2017
This is what happens when you study pseudoscientific books. You apparently become smart but spill out dumb things. Stop reading whatever book you're reading OP.

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Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Niflheim(m): 3:57pm On Nov 16, 2017
@The General House


Giorgio A. Tsoukalos, who massively promoted this "dinosaur dung"(ancient aliens theory), does not even have a degree in Archaeology, but a degree in..........................................wait for it................................................sports information and communication!!! grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Graycoder: 3:57pm On Nov 16, 2017
Optimist1998:
This is what happens when you study pseudoscientific books. You apparently become smart but spill out dumb things. Stop reading whatever book you're reading OP.

grin grin
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Graycoder: 3:58pm On Nov 16, 2017
Niflheim:
@The General House


Giorgio A. Tsoukalos, who massively promoted this "dinosaur dung"(ancient aliens theory), does not even have a degree in Archaeology, but a degree in..........................................wait for it................................................sports information and communication!!! grin grin grin grin grin

LMAO grin grin

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Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by iamnlia(m): 4:04pm On Nov 16, 2017
Graycoder:


Can't I produce facts? What about their brains, isn't that enough facts for you? grin grin

At least we found their fossil records, and we saw their skulls.

On the other hand, you're the one who does not have facts here. Where are your Aliens, are you one?

Do you have their fossil records?

Luckily for you and Fekwa, just like she pointed out, you have to HALLUCINATE before you can find Aliens. That's really ridiculous grin
Yes, there are fossil alien records.
Just Google.
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Nobody: 4:08pm On Nov 16, 2017
Graycoder:



It's very funny we both find her post hilarious as hell. I think she is just testing her satirical skills. grin grin grin
I think so too, honestly. grin
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by iamnlia(m): 4:12pm On Nov 16, 2017
Graycoder:


Can't I produce facts? What about their brains, isn't that enough facts for you? grin grin

At least we found their fossil records, and we saw their skulls.

On the other hand, you're the one who does not have facts here. Where are your Aliens, are you one?

Do you have their fossil records?

Luckily for you and Fekwa, just like she pointed out, you have to HALLUCINATE before you can find Aliens. That's really ridiculous grin
I would have loved to argue pseudoscience and clear the air on dmt but you can't comprehend.
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Graycoder: 4:12pm On Nov 16, 2017
iamnlia:

Yes, there are fossil alien records.
Just Google.

Bring your facts here, let's see...

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Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Niflheim(m): 4:13pm On Nov 16, 2017
Alien fossils exist? For real?

Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by iamnlia(m): 4:18pm On Nov 16, 2017
Graycoder:


Bring your facts here, let's see...
Elongated skulls from Peru which have mitochondrial DNA with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known
Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by Graycoder: 4:19pm On Nov 16, 2017
iamnlia:

I would have loved to argue pseudoscience and clear the air on dmt but you can't comprehend.

The height I have reached in science cannot be compared to someone who instinctively believes in the existence of Aliens just because of certain structures that were erected in the days of old.

I am obviously more intelligent than you are based on your theories and postulations of Aliens. And your wrong understanding of evolution.

The only person explaining pseudoscience here is you, bro. Please carry books and read.

On DMT, there is no way you can know about it more than I do, I studied Biochemistry and it transverse and outclass whatever you study when evolution, genetics and science generally are concerned.

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Re: I Don't Believe In Evolution. I Believe Humans Were Genetically Engineered. by iamnlia(m): 4:24pm On Nov 16, 2017
I would have loved to gloat too but I tell myself that I know nothing so that I can know more.

You studied biochemistry?
I finished it in 200 and 300 levels before moving above to chemical pathology.

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