hardasan:


The entire old testament is Judaism, Christ was born into Judaism, Christ practiced Judaism. Christ never condemned Judaism but lessened the burden of the law by bringing grace.
If you don't believe the OT, you aren't a christian and I shouldn't be debating with you on this.

no mind the guy, many of them don't know that Jesus practised Judiasm,

hardasan:


1peter 2vs 9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Every one of us in the Christiandom are priests. The pastors receive tithes because they represent the lévites of Judaism. Pastoral work is full time. Fake Pastor or genuine Pastor, they work full time. So just as the lévites are given land and tithes, the pastors are given tithes and offerings.

Do U have scriptures to back this claim?
How and where did pastors represent levites?
Please dont say whats not in the bible?
If U have scriptures to prove the highlighted claim,please state them clearly!!
All these guesswork must stop!!

chisco82:
Be civil bit, we are learning and you can make ur point without insult.
My question is those there were into non~farming activities what should be there tithe?
Now this verse 25 of Deutronomy 14 you quoted
"then you shall turn it into money, and bind up the money in your hand, and go to the place which the Lord" your God chooses, please explain.

What shall you turn into money?
You answer from the passage you quoted.
Cheers.

Broda..
You have no idea of what you are talking about . .
Just remember you'd be held account of every soul you mislead on judgement day. .
It's a simple instruction..surrender your 10% income ..
If the pastor should use your tithes to buy himself things or build houses on water.. It's non of your business So far you have obeyed GOD's instructions..let every living soul be lie and God be true..
I rather be a fool in the sight of men and be wise in the sight of GOD..

The world is coming to an end and the devil is really working hard to lead people astray..
Any trendy thing you see or encounter now is from the devil..

The funny thing is that people who feel they are wise enough not to surrender your 10% to GOD will end up surrendering their 100% and the families' to the devil.

10% is not too much for your creator..

Let GOD be true and every man be lie..

PointZerom:


Pls read Philippians 4:15-19 and tell me if the people didn't give to these apostles.

You will agree with me that CHRISTIANITY started from Antioch and the apostles were the first christians.

Did the Apostles receive Tithes?

Did Jesus receive Tithes?

Please answer in all honesty, no pun intended.

Gggg102:





wrong
u r d brainwasher and brainwashed

Broda..
You have no idea of what you are talking about . .
Just remember you'd be held account of every soul you mislead on judgement day. .
It's a simple instruction..surrender your 10% income ..
If the pastor should use your tithes to buy himself things or build houses on water.. It's non of your business So far you have obeyed GOD's instructions..let every living soul be lie and God be true..
I rather be a fool in the sight of men and be wise in the sight of GOD..

The world is coming to an end and the devil is really working hard to lead people astray..
Any trendy thing you see or encounter now is from the devil..

The funny thing is that people who feel they are wise enough not to surrender your 10% to GOD will end up surrendering their 100% and the families' to the devil.

10% is not too much for your creator..

Let GOD be true and every man be lie..

hardasan:


Please enlighten me on the currency used during the biblical days.
Please state where the bible said it's the exccess that should be put in the storehouse

Why did Ananias lie? Because he knows that the Apostles will tell him to bring the balance and he can't give excuses.
At least you didn't deny that the apostles were supposed to receive all the money gotten from the sales of the land or any possession or salary of the church members.

Where is the barn where you will put cooked food and it won't spoil.
Before I forget, please tell us where God chose that I eat my tithe for the past 10yrs, let me do cross country picnic

. Jesus begged his father to forgive those that were killing him and an apostle commanded a person to die because he did not bring everything he sold. ponder on that.
secondly, that was not tithe o, it was a communal agreement that everything everybody had will be shared amongst all.
A pastor said the only reason they collect offerings is because that is the only way we can prosper. ponder on this and tell me if u think he is saying the truth...... if you want a debate in a bid to establish the truth, just let me know, I will give you my number and call you with my recharge card.

Gggg102:



OK thanks


The thing is that Malachi was talking about tithe in Deuteronomy. You cannot use Malachi in isolation. Malachi was saying "you are breaking the law" but you need to know the law he was talking about. That is where Deuteronomy comes in.

I totally agree with u. But let 'the below view' of mine about tithing also be known.

I TITHE with pride, not because my pastor asked me to but because its my conviction to do so.
Yes, God doesnt spend money, but i realise, the generator in my church is always on, i dont ever get to sit on a broken or dirty seat, the bulbs, switches, projector, speakers, mic, mixer, piano, keyboard, guitar are always in perfect working condition, the decoration is always looking beautiful.....everything is functional....everything is bright and colorful...always a good environment for spiritual servicing.
My pastor doesnt even work, he has family and responsibilities, same as the ministers who are into full time ministry, pple who either called by God or chosen on their part to be of religious service to people of likewise conviction.
Again, i read, not told or taught or made to believe, in the bible that i should tithe. So i will tithe. i even observed that the month i tithe, my finances is muah! I am not brainwashed, i am learned and educated, i am a christian and i am not religious. i am in control of myself. I tithe and will continue to tithe...
To those who dont believe in tithing, you have committed no crime, because every man's action is based on personal conviction and what he or she deems OK. But dont go about disrespecting, insulting and making those whose religious convictions on tithing are different from yours all in the name of being a social media warrior. By your extreme posts of insults and abuses, you are not different from the likes of ISIS, Al-queda, BokoHaram and co, cos u ar are assaulting and terrorizing pple whose faith and beliefs contradict yours.
Shalom.

Lotechi:
Jesus came to correct some things and after the correction, he handed to us a new constitution. you don't refer to an old constitution when a new one have been passed into law.

so why do your pastors read from passages of the old constitutions in church and also bringing up the laws of tithe that are in the old constitution, you bleeped up by bringing in political terms into God's issue.

NwaAmaikpe:



Sorry to differ with you.
But the giving of monetary offerings to the church as tithe is wrong, it is unbiblical and purely exploitative.

The Bible is perspicuous about tithing.
Deuteronomy 14 : 22-27
Explains the process of tithing which our devilish pastors never tell us.

Besides none of our Pastors in Nigeria are from the tribe of Levi (Only Levites receive tithes)

Kindly study it and be blessed.

Broda..
You have no idea of what you are talking about . .
Just remember you'd be held account of every soul you mislead on judgement day. .
It's a simple instruction..surrender your 10% income ..
If the pastor should use your tithes to buy himself things or build houses on water.. It's non of your business So far you have obeyed GOD's instructions..let every living soul be lie and God be true..
I rather be a fool in the sight of men and be wise in the sight of GOD..

The world is coming to an end and the devil is really working hard to lead people astray..
Any trendy thing you see or encounter now is from the devil..

The funny thing is that people who feel they are wise enough not to surrender your 10% to GOD will end up surrendering their 100% and the families' to the devil.

10% is not too much for your creator..

Let GOD be true and every man be lie..

Lotechi:
. as you give ur answers, back it up with bible verses.

Please give your own answers and back them up.

miketayo:


Not the OT but the OT laws are not for Christians

you mean the 10 commandment? Are not for christains? So i should fornicate, steal, lie, ?

Saintinoo:
no mind the guy, many of them don't know that Jesus practised Judiasm,

......until He FULFILLED the law, not so
Apostle Paul, writing to Jews who understand Judaism, explained the change of priesthood and law clearly below.

Hebrews 7

1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, [1] having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. 4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils. 5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: 6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises. 7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better. 8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth. 9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham. 10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.

11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. 13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar. 14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

https://www.christianity.com/bible/bible.php?q=Hebrews+7&ver=kjv

Do you need further explanation again


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persinpapa:
Broda..
You have no idea of what you are talking about . .
Just remember you'd be held account of every soul you mislead on judgement day. .
It's a simple instruction..surrender your 10% income ..
If the pastor should use your tithes to buy himself things or build houses on water.. It's non of your business So far you have obeyed GOD's instructions..let every living soul be lie and God be true..
I rather be a fool in the sight of men and be wise in the sight of GOD..

The world is coming to an end and the devil is really working hard to lead people astray..
Any trendy thing you see or encounter now is from the devil..

The funny thing is that people who feel they are wise enough not to surrender your 10% to GOD will end up surrendering their 100% and the families' to the devil.

10% is not too much for your creator..

Let GOD be true and every man be lie..

. if you love God, you serve and worship him not by giving 10% of ur income....then when you help the poor, then your father in heaven will be pleased.... read your bible so you can know the truth.

PointZerom:


Pls read Philippians 4:15-19 and tell me if the people didn't give to these apostles.

Verse 17 starts with "not that I seek these gifts"
It shows they gave from freewill.

Saintinoo:
you mean the 10 commandment? Are not for christains? So i should fornicate, steal, lie, ?

Why would you do that if you follow the overarching commandment that encompasses the 10- Love your neighbour as yourself?
Please explain. Thanks.

I quote the verse you highlighted (just Copy and Paste)
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.[b][/b]

My Questions are;
1. Where is the name church mention in the verse?
2. When did church became a community warehouse?
3. Who is entitled to the tithes and for what purpose is today's pastor use it for?
4. Where did Jesus collect tithes in the bible, if you claim to follow him?
5. Is the tithes ment for the pastor or the poor? when your Pastors collect where did they use it and how?

You are not only been brainwashed but been fooled because you fail to read what you have in your hand.
Jesus rebuke both that pay and collect tithes in the same bible.

Jesus said: Woe to you, teachers of law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! you give a tenth of your spices-mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of law, justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced thlatter, without neglecting the former. (mathew 23:23)

Also said: "Woe to you Pharisees, because you give God a tenth of your mint, rue and all other kinds of garden herbs, but you neglect justice and the love of God. You should have practiced the latter without leaving the former undone". (Luke11:42)

Niyinficient:


I totally agree with u. But let the below view of mine about tithing also be known.

I TITHE with pride, not because my pastor asked me to but because its my conviction to do so.
Yes, God doesnt spend money, but i realise, the generator in my church is always on, i dont ever get to sit on a broken or dirty seat, the bulbs, switches, projector, speakers, mic, mixer, piano, keyboard, guitar are always in perfect working condition, the decoration is always looking beautiful.....everything is functional....everything is bright and colorful...always a good environment for spiritual servicing.
My pastor doesnt even work, he has family and responsibilities, same as the ministers who are into full time ministry, pple who either called by God or chosen on their part to be of religious service to people of likewise conviction.
Again, i read, not told or taught or made to believe, in the bible that i should tithe. So i will tithe. i even observed that the month i tithe, my finances is muah! I am not brainwashed, i am learned and educated, i am a christian and i am not religious. i am in control of myself. I tithe and will continue to tithe...
To those who dont believe in tithing, you havw committed no crime, because every man's action is based on personal conviction and what he or she deems OK. But dont go about disrespecting, insulting and making those whose religious convictions on tithing are different from yours all in the name of being a social media warrior. By your extreme posts of insults and abuses, you ar not different from the likes of ISIS, Al-queda, BokoHaram and co, cos u ar are assaulting and terrorizing pple whose faith and beliefs contradict yours.
Shalom.

I already posted somewhere in the beginning that I'm not against paying tithe or any form of given what I'm against is compulsion of giving

anonimi:


Don't be lazy.
Don't allow yourself to be deceived and misled into hell fire by gods of men.
Seek knowledge of the Word of God so you don't perish.
The fraudulently used Malachi 3:10 is directed at the Levites who were stealing the part they were given of the tithes of AGRICULTURAL products in line with Deuteronomy 14.




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I have read Deut 14 you kept on quoting. The point there is that I should eat my tithe.
Pastors represent Levites in the Church today. They collect the tithe for the purpose of the house of God not for their personal use. Pastors are suppose to be on allowance or salary in every organized church. The rest is to take care of the needy and less privilege as well as for the expansion of the gospel of Christ.
Read the whole of Malachi 3.
Like I said you can choose to 'EAT' your tithe as it contained in Deut. 14 or bring to the Church (not the pastor) so that there will be resources in the house of God.

Gggg102:



Verse 17 starts with "not that I seek these gifts"
It shows they gave from freewill.

When you do what the Bible says you should do, will it be said that you're operating under free will or you are abiding under a principle that's if the pastor should remind you? .

Niyinficient:


I totally agree with u. But let the below view of mine about tithing also be known.

I TITHE with pride, not because my pastor asked me to but because its my conviction to do so.
Yes, God doesnt spend money, but i realise, the generator in my church is always on, i dont ever get to sit on a broken or dirty seat, the bulbs, switches, projector, speakers, mic, mixer, piano, keyboard, guitar are always in perfect working condition, the decoration is always looking beautiful.....everything is functional....everything is bright and colorful...always a good environment for spiritual servicing.
My pastor doesnt even work, he has family and responsibilities, same as the ministers who are into full time ministry, pple who either called by God or chosen on their part to be of religious service to people of likewise conviction.
Again, i read, not told or taught or made to believe, in the bible that i should tithe. So i will tithe. i even observed that the month i tithe, my finances is muah! I am not brainwashed, i am learned and educated, i am a christian and i am not religious. i am in control of myself. I tithe and will continue to tithe...
To those who dont believe in tithing, you havw committed no crime, because every man's action is based on personal conviction and what he or she deems OK. But dont go about disrespecting, insulting and making those whose religious convictions on tithing are different from yours all in the name of being a social media warrior. By your extreme posts of insults and abuses, you ar not different from the likes of ISIS, Al-queda, BokoHaram and co, cos u ar are assaulting and terrorizing pple whose faith and beliefs contradict yours.
Shalom.

God bless you! Exactly what I have been trying to tell some people that if you are attacking on internet because they don't believe they should not pay tithe, you are not better than book haram and ISIS. These were my exact words.

hardasan:
I just refuse to keep quiet while Christians are brainwashed by anybody.

I want to quote Malachi Ch 3 v 7 - 12 while highlighting verse 10

Malachi 3:7-12King James Version (KJV)

7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts.

12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the Lord of hosts.

Here the bible plainly said in verse 8: " Yet ye have robbed me, But ye say where in. Have we robbed thee? "
The bible answered : "In tithes and offerings"

Verse 9 says: Ye are cursed for ye have robbed me. It didn't say ye are cursed for not eating your tithe or ye are cursed for paying to a pastor and not into heaven's bank account directly from the earth.

Verse 10 gives a direct instruction: Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse. It didn't say eat ye all the tithes in front of the storehouse or give ye all the tithes to the poor and widows.
In the biblical days, payments could be by precious stones or commodities. That's why trade by barter markets existed in the days of my grandparents before currencies became the order of the day. Now, 99.9% of people earn currencies not livestock or commodities, so it's normal that we pay tithe in cash.

Verse 11 is a promise by God to bless anyone who obeys this instruction of tithing

John ch 12 talks about Jesus being anointed for his burial with a very expensive ointment, Judas asked why the costly ointment wasn't sold and given to the poor instead of " wasting it"
Jesus said in verse 8: For the poor always ye have with you ; but me ye have not always

Matthew ch 10 vs 40 - 41, Jesus promised to. Reward those who are kind or who gives as little as a cup of cold water to his servants

Ever wondered why Jesus picked out the widow in Mark ch 12 vs 42 for giving her all since he doesn't care about our offering ?

Or why the Holy Ghost killed Ananias and Sapphira for keeping part of the money gotten from the sales of their own land in Acts ch 5 vs 1 - 11 if God doesn't care about our tithes and offerings.

Take heed that no wolf in sheep's clothing deceives you. God commanded tithing and offerings. If you want to pay yours when you get to heaven, that's your business, but don't go about stumbling people Christ died for cus it will be better for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for you.

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Please try to read through the thread, a lot of questions have been answered which are not mentioned in this initial post.
God bless the contributors and the sincere readers

I don't know why people as so keen on this tithe of a thing. The old covenant or testament was a prefigure to the new law. There were many laws and rituals observed by the Jewish people before the coming of Christ. Now all this rituals and law passed away, for the new and perfect rite to be established. The old covenant demanded offering only 10% of your possession as tithe but the new law demands offering of not just 10% but 100% and ones whole self to the Lord and this is not as a written law but inscribed in the heart of man. This is to be borne out of perfect charity for God and fellow man exemplified by helping the poor and needy around us and contributing to the growth of the Church according to one's capacity. God sees beyond action. He knows the intent of all man

persinpapa:
Broda..
You have no idea of what you are talking about . .
Just remember you'd be held account of every soul you mislead on judgement day. .
It's a simple instruction..surrender your 10% income ..
If the pastor should use your tithes to buy himself things or build houses on water.. It's non of your business So far you have obeyed GOD's instructions..let every living soul be lie and God be true..
I rather be a fool in the sight of men and be wise in the sight of GOD..

The world is coming to an end and the devil is really working hard to lead people astray..
Any trendy thing you see or encounter now is from the devil..

The funny thing is that people who feel they are wise enough not to surrender your 10% to GOD will end up surrendering their 100% and the families' to the devil.

10% is not too much for your creator..

Let GOD be true and every man be lie..

Don't be deceived... Who made your pastor a Priest?
Did Paul, Peter, etc collect tithe?
Did our Lord and Savior Jesus collect tithe?
Who told you that church you attend is the house of God?
God does not live in a house built by men
God lives in you
You are God's temple
We are Gods temple
Pay your tithe to the poor and see if God will not equally bless you more
You think it's tithe that makes you rich, use your google and rethink

Jesus will not come in form of your GO, not inform of your Pastor, he will come in form of the poor man in your street, that jobless man along the road, that sick and homeless man in your neighborhood Matt 25: 34-40
''Then the King will say to those on his right, ''Come, my Father has blesses you! Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world. I was hungry, and you gave me something to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger, and you took me into your home. I needed clothes, and you gave me something to wear........ Then the people who have Gods approval will reply to him, ''Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you or see you thirsty and gave you something to drink? When did we see you as a stranger and take you into our homes.........................??
''The king will answer them, ''I can guarantee this truth: Whatever you did for one of my brothers or sisters, no matter how unimportant they seem, you did for me''

My 10cents

The tithe was a requirement of the Law in which the Israelites were to give 10 percent of the crops they grew and the livestock they raised to the Levites; Custodian of the tabernacle/temple (Leviticus 27:30-32; Numbers 18:21-28; Deuteronomy 14:22-29)

What should Levite do with the tithes: (Nehemiah 10:30-38; 2Chro 31:4-10): The Levite/Priest are to deposit the tenth of the tithe at the store-house of God, (so there must be food at any point in time) for visitors and needy to see something to eat etc.

Fallout of Levite non remittance of tenth of Tithe. (Malachi 3:2-10): After a long period of time, it was observed that the children of Israel (part of other 11 tribes) and Judah residing in Judah were no longer paying the commanded tithe and the Levite no longer depositing at the store house of God. Hence, this Malachi 3:4 admonitions. The store house of God has been empty for very long time.

New Testament:
After the death of Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law, (Mathew 5:17; Mathew 23:23; Luke 11:42) The New Testament talks about the importance and benefits of giving. We are to give as we are able. Sometimes that means giving more than 10 percent; sometimes that may mean giving less. It all depends on the ability of the Christian and the needs of the body of Christ. But we must give cheerfully and with Love. (Luke 6:38, Mark 12:41-45)

Christ become the chief Priest and took the function of Levitical Priesthood (but never received nor pay tithe neither did the 12 Apostles.) we are priest too through Jesus Christ (Hebrew 7:2-27; 9:13-17; Ephesians 2:11; 1Peter 2:5,9).

The principle in the New Testament is to give voluntarily to support the needs of others (Acts 2:45-47; Romans 15:25-27), support Christian workers (1Corinthians 9:11-14; 1Timothy 5:18; 1Corinthians 16:2), and expand Christian outreach (Philippians 4:15-16). No specific amount is ever commanded, and no percentage is suggested. While a tithe or tenth of one’s finances may be a good standard to use for Christian giving, it is clear the early church did not focus on a specific amount but rather on meeting needs. This sometimes included giving much more than a tenth, as some believers sold homes or land to meet the needs that existed in the church (Acts 4:34-37).

In conclusion, it is no longer a law/command to pay one-tenth of our income to the Levite as Jesus Christ has fulfilled the law, there is no curse if one does not pay tithe, and paying of tithe is not a Sin so far you are happy giving it to the lord.

PointZerom:



When you do what the Bible says you should do, will it be said that you're operating under free will or you are abiding under a principle that's if the pastor should remind you? .

I don't understand you fully

All I know is that you should give not because someone force you to but you should give because your heart pushes you to.
There is nothing wrong if your pastor reminds you but he shouldn't force you.
Paul reminded the Christians of the importance of giving but he did not compel them to give

Saintinoo:
no mind the guy, many of them don't know that Jesus practised Judiasm,

Jesus came to fulfill all the requirements of the law so that U and every christian will be free from the snares and dictates of the law!
Galatians 3:21-29;4:4-6
Ephesians 2:11-22
Romans 10:4
Hebrews 9:11-28
These scriptures will give U a platform.....

I have a question for U...why did peter and paul question the jews for insisting that the newly converted gentiles submit to the laws of moses?

Reference: Acts 15:1-35

slowie:
I have read Deut 14 you kept on quoting. The point there is that I should eat my tithe.
Pastors represent Levites in the Church today. They collect the tithe for the purpose of the house of God not for their personal use. Pastors are suppose to be on allowance or salary in every organized church. The rest is to take care of the needy and less privilege as well as for the expansion of the gospel of Christ.

Today's pastors do NOT in any way represent Levites. I already shared Hebrews 7.
Read and digest it properly.
In addition, if you actually read Deuteronomy 14, as you claim, you would see that you give the strangers, orphans and widows directly ALONG with the non-property-owning Levites.

Read the whole of Malachi 3.
Like I said you can choose to 'EAT' your tithe as it contained in Deut. 14 or bring to the Church (not the pastor) so that there will be resources in the house of God.

I also shared Malachi 1 here.
Read and digest it properly.
The fraudulently used Malachi 3 is directed at Levites ( who are NOT pastors today) for stealing and misappropriating their own portion of tithes received from Jews as stated in Deuteronomy 14.

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openmine:

Jesus came to fulfill all the requirements of the law so that U and every christian will be free from the snares and dictates of the law!
Galatians 3:21-29;4:4-6
Ephesians 2:11-22
Romans 10:4
Hebrews 9:11-28
These scriptures will give U a platform.....

I have a question for U...why did peter and paul question the jews for insisting that the newly converted gentiles submit to the laws of moses?

Reference: Acts 15:1-35

what religion did Jesus practices, i think that was what you say before you jumped into my mention

persinpapa:


Broda..
You have no idea of what you are talking about . .
Just remember you'd be held account of every soul you mislead on judgement day. .
It's a simple instruction..surrender your 10% income ..
If the pastor should use your tithes to buy himself things or build houses on water.. It's non of your business So far you have obeyed GOD's instructions..let every living soul be lie and God be true..
I rather be a fool in the sight of men and be wise in the sight of GOD..

The world is coming to an end and the devil is really working hard to lead people astray..
Any trendy thing you see or encounter now is from the devil..

The funny thing is that people who feel they are wise enough not to surrender your 10% to GOD will end up surrendering their 100% and the families' to the devil.

10% is not too much for your creator..

Let GOD be true and every man be lie..

Don't be deceived... Who made your pastor a Priest?
Did Paul, Peter, etc collect tithe?
Did our Lord and Savior Jesus collect tithe?
Who told you that church you attend is the house of God?
God does not live in a house built by men
God lives in you
You are God's temple
We are Gods temple
Pay your tithe to the poor and see if God will not equally bless you more
You think it's tithe that makes you rich, use your google and rethink

Jesus will not come in form of your GO, not inform of your Pastor, he will come in form of the poor man in your street, that jobless man along the road, that sick and homeless man in your neighborhood Matt 25: 34-40
''Then the King will say to those on his right, ''Come, my Father has blesses you! Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world. I was hungry, and you gave me something to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger, and you took me into your home. I needed clothes, and you gave me something to wear........ Then the people who have Gods approval will reply to him, ''Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you or see you thirsty and gave you something to drink? When did we see you as a stranger and take you into our homes.........................??
''The king will answer them, ''I can guarantee this truth: Whatever you did for one of my brothers or sisters, no matter how unimportant they seem, you did for me''

My 10cents

hardasan:
I just refuse to keep quiet while Christians are brainwashed by anybody.

I want to quote Malachi Ch 3 v 7 - 12 while highlighting verse 10

Malachi 3:7-12King James Version (KJV)

7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the Lord of hosts.

12 And all nations shall call you blessed: for ye shall be a delightsome land, saith the Lord of hosts.

Here the bible plainly said in verse 8: " Yet ye have robbed me, But ye say where in. Have we robbed thee? "
The bible answered : "In tithes and offerings"

Verse 9 says: Ye are cursed for ye have robbed me. It didn't say ye are cursed for not eating your tithe or ye are cursed for paying to a pastor and not into heaven's bank account directly from the earth.

Verse 10 gives a direct instruction: Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse. It didn't say eat ye all the tithes in front of the storehouse or give ye all the tithes to the poor and widows.
In the biblical days, payments could be by precious stones or commodities. That's why trade by barter markets existed in the days of my grandparents before currencies became the order of the day. Now, 99.9% of people earn currencies not livestock or commodities, so it's normal that we pay tithe in cash.

Verse 11 is a promise by God to bless anyone who obeys this instruction of tithing

John ch 12 talks about Jesus being anointed for his burial with a very expensive ointment, Judas asked why the costly ointment wasn't sold and given to the poor instead of " wasting it"
Jesus said in verse 8: For the poor always ye have with you ; but me ye have not always

Matthew ch 10 vs 40 - 41, Jesus promised to. Reward those who are kind or who gives as little as a cup of cold water to his servants

Ever wondered why Jesus picked out the widow in Mark ch 12 vs 42 for giving her all since he doesn't care about our offering ?

Or why the Holy Ghost killed Ananias and Sapphira for keeping part of the money gotten from the sales of their own land in Acts ch 5 vs 1 - 11 if God doesn't care about our tithes and offerings.

Take heed that no wolf in sheep's clothing deceives you. God commanded tithing and offerings. If you want to pay yours when you get to heaven, that's your business, but don't go about stumbling people Christ died for cus it will be better for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for you.

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Please try to read through the thread, a lot of questions have been answered which are not mentioned in this initial post.
God bless the contributors and the sincere readers

Don't be deceived... Who made your pastor a Priest?
Did Paul, Peter, etc collect tithe?
Did our Lord and Savior Jesus collect tithe?
Who told you that church you attend is the house of God?
God does not live in a house built by men
God lives in you
You are God's temple
We are Gods temple
Pay your tithe to the poor and see if God will not equally bless you more
You think it's tithe that makes you rich, use your google and rethink

Jesus will not come in form of your GO, not inform of your Pastor, he will come in form of the poor man in your street, that jobless man along the road, that sick and homeless man in your neighborhood Matt 25: 34-40
''Then the King will say to those on his right, ''Come, my Father has blesses you! Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world. I was hungry, and you gave me something to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger, and you took me into your home. I needed clothes, and you gave me something to wear........ Then the people who have Gods approval will reply to him, ''Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you or see you thirsty and gave you something to drink? When did we see you as a stranger and take you into our homes.........................??
''The king will answer them, ''I can guarantee this truth: Whatever you did for one of my brothers or sisters, no matter how unimportant they seem, you did for me''

My 10cents

Larrey:
I pay my tithe because I believe in it(what you believe will work for you) and nobody is forcing me to pay it. They don't lay emphasis on tithe in my church. Nobody should quote me on this plssssssss

Don't be deceived... Who made your pastor a Priest?
Did Paul, Peter, etc collect tithe?
Did our Lord and Savior Jesus collect tithe?
Who told you that church you attend is the house of God?
God does not live in a house built by men
God lives in you
You are God's temple
We are Gods temple
Pay your tithe to the poor and see if God will not equally bless you more
You think it's tithe that makes you rich, use your google and rethink

Jesus will not come in form of your GO, not inform of your Pastor, he will come in form of the poor man in your street, that jobless man along the road, that sick and homeless man in your neighborhood Matt 25: 34-40
''Then the King will say to those on his right, ''Come, my Father has blesses you! Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world. I was hungry, and you gave me something to eat. I was thirsty, and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger, and you took me into your home. I needed clothes, and you gave me something to wear........ Then the people who have Gods approval will reply to him, ''Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you or see you thirsty and gave you something to drink? When did we see you as a stranger and take you into our homes.........................??
''The king will answer them, ''I can guarantee this truth: Whatever you did for one of my brothers or sisters, no matter how unimportant they seem, you did for me''

My 10cents

OP please go back to Malachai 1, read through again and let it be revealed to you who God was talking to. Read the whole of Malachai for better understanding.