Just ask him what was decorating the palace of "yoruba kings" when the british arrived.
Oba Ovonramwen had His bronzes which are now in the british museum and in museums all around the world.
But what was decorating the "yoruba palaces", they claim to have taught us how to make our bronze then how come they had none in their "palaces" ?

MasterChen:


Elu na new one you carry come so oh. Ọbàlùfọ̀n III

The emboldened sounds interesting to me breh. Does it mean all those beads they use were borrowed from Yorubas?

historyworld030:
Stop quoting wikipedia, those pages were written by people whom are just as clueless as you on the subject.
There is really something wrong in nigerian education which makes you guys constantly quote wikipedia on things such as undocumented african "history" !
Can anybody show actual evidence for these claims ?
The portuguese were already visiting Benin in the middle ages and the name they wrote down is Benin Kingdom, The Edo people also call their kingdom Benin Kingdom ! and now some fools are telling us a story about ibini or ubini or whatever and that it is the portugues who changed our name ? WTF is wrong with you people ?

Stop being sentimental and arrogant. You made a bogus claim with no evidence while
asking others to provide evidence for a widely accepted oral history.
The Portuguese first arrived in Benin in the 15th century
when Oba Ewuare, was on the throne. No one is claiming
that the portuguese changed the name. Benin's original name was Igodomigodo.
It was said to have been renamed by Oranmiyan in the 12th century before the
first whiteman ever set foot in Benin.

Afriifa:
if only you survive the first strike.

Unless you come at us with an atomic bomb, we will survive, but you won't survive the last strike by definition.

hotwax:
LOL @ Benin..they are our backbitting brothers. They are busy laying claims to Lagos, and someone else is claiming their backyard.

You will soon loose Benin to Ijaws.

You always join Igbos to attack us.

Yes Benin is no man land.

I am Yoruba, I believe we share ancestral heritage with Benin. But Benin always backbite

Keep quiet, this is a serious discussion.

God is an ijaw man, I am surprised I haven't read that yet since ijaw clan is the beginning of creation itself.

Adam and Eve are ijaw people

una mumu don do abeg, all this e-ranting dey tire and annoy person
Binis really need throway some strokes of cane to that coward una wan crown as king, make e reset una brain and reconnect una back to reality.
you guys are just overly stupid right now and this is an exhibition of full blown drunkenness.

Ogogoro people, ijaw people can argue for Africa, them fit follow you argue your name
Illiterates, we bless God for civilization sha, e nor get how ijaw man wan go school reach, you must still see traits of cowardness in them.

people wey dey burst pipelines around them, dey kill the small fishes wey them dey survive on because they want FG's attention, little wonder monkey pox be wan make dem go extinct

make everybody go sleep abeg

ivolt:


Keep quiet, this is a serious discussion.

Fck off...e concern u?

It is very simple, if you don't have proof, then don't claim.
I reject your claim of "igodomigodo" no matter how many people you claim have accepted it. i reject that because there is no proof.
Please specify what you claim I didn't prove.
And check out the pre-colonial maps which I posted.
And also this is not the right thread for this discussion.

ivolt:


Stop being sentimental and arrogant. You made a bogus claim with no evidence while
asking others to provide evidence for a widely accepted oral history.
The Portuguese first arrived in Benin in the 15th century
when Oba Ewuare, was on the throne. No one is claiming
that the portuguese changed the name. Benin's original name was Igodomigodo.
It was said to have been renamed by Oranmiyan in the 12th century before the
first whiteman ever set foot in Benin.

historyworld030:

Unless you come at us with an atomic bomb, we will survive, but you won't survive the last strike by definition.

that's how u guys been claiming to own yoruba race by fabricating a lost prince theory. come pursue us from gele-gele-gbene na.

Uyiii:
God is an ijaw man, I am surprised I haven't read that yet since ijaw clan is the beginning of creation itself.

Adam and Eve are ijaw people

una mumu don do abeg, all this e-ranting dey tire and annoy person
Binis really need throway some strokes of cane to that coward una wan crown, make e reset una brain and reconnect una back to reality.
you guys are just over stupid right now and this is an exhibition of full blown drunkenness.

Ogogoro people, ijaw people can argue for Africa, them fit follow you argue your name
Illiterates, we bless God for civilization sha, e nor get how ijaw man wan go school reach, you must still see traits of cowardness in them.

people wey dey burst pipelines around them dey kill the small fishes wey them dey survive on because they want FG's attention, little wonder monkey pox be wan make dem go extinct

make everybody go sleep abeg

last mumu.. where is really your point?

Afriifa:
last mumu.. where is really your point?

you've been all over the place since, are you always this stupid or you're just tryna exhibit your act of stupidity in this thread only

nor quote me again idiot, you think you can fight with everybody.. move ahead abeg.

MENELIK1:


Your ranting did not answer my question. Check my first line "Yoruba is plus or minus anybody" Yoruba don't claim people rather people trace their descent to us even as far as Ewe of Present day Togo. The binis are the one trying to claim other people by your revisionist history of a lost prince being recalled from Ile Ife and the fallacy of Lagos. Binis are now laughing stock for Nairaland folks. "Oba no dey comot for Palace", now he is in Garki going up and down, bini owns Lagos , now the Ijaws are here to claim the tiny enclave you are even managing. Please accept my sympathy. You said OBA is not a Yoruba word only, why not prove me wrong by spelling it using your alphabets?

chai see finishing

nengibo:

So you are saying the bini once spoke Yoruba and they are of yoruba descent

So u can't understand what was written up there...
Oduduwa being a son of the Ogiso refers to Bini land as a vexatious land following the issue surrounding who's to be king which made him leave.. that's where the word bini came from... get ur facts right son.

Uyiii:

you've been all over the place since, are you always this stupid or you're just tryna exhibit your act of stupidity in this thread only

nor quote me again idiot, you think you can fight with everybody.. move ahead abeg.

lol at this wanna be relevant. what's your point please? you sick fvck.. what a nuisance.

updatechange:



So u can't understand what was written up there...
Oduduwa being a son of the Ogiso refers to Bini land as a vexatious land and that's where the word bini came from... get ur facts right son.

is that all you are good at? even dragging lands with the Yorubas.

Afriifa:
shut up if you know nothing. the Ijaws are blessed too blessed. that's why most their neighbours envy dem.. as the saying goes... even blessings attracts enemies. Ijaws has to fight every day to defend what God has blessed them with. that's why d many enemies.. stop talking down in the Ijaws... the damn federal road to your state is likely built by the resources from the Ijaw region. be grateful at least. and stop talking down like an ungrateful bastard.

Please, stop this nonsense. Is it only in Ijaw land that oil is been drilled? What about Igboid areas in Rivers and Delta that oil is carted away on daily basis? No need even mentioning Abia and Imo. Ijaws are not the only region surffering from neglect and marginilization. Just don't involve us in your troubles.

hotwax:

Fck off...e concern u?

you fvck out.

Alexus23:

Please, stop this nonsense. Is it only in Ijaw land that oil is been drilled? What about Igboid areas in Rivers and Delta that oil is carted away on daily basis? No need even mentioning Abia and Imo. Ijaws are not the only region surffering from neglect and marginilization. Just don't involve us in your troubles.

what is this rejected vampire saying?

Afriifa:
you fvck out.

Go and kill urself

MasterChen:


Elu na new one you carry come so oh. Ọbàlùfọ̀n III

The emboldened sounds interesting to me breh. Does it mean all those beads they use were borrowed from Yorubas?

I’m weak, my egbon figured me out sha

I haven’t read an actual research stating they borrowed the bead stuff from us but archeological excavations in Ife come to mind. Old Ooni terracota and I think bronze works depict them to wear a lot of bead especially around the neck/chest area. Also, the red bead [Iyun] and blue bead [Segi] were Ife items of trade that we took to as far as Senegal/Ivory Coast [the kingdom/empire covering that geographical space many centuries in the past - I think Songhai] and Mali Empire. We can draw inference that Ife/Yoruba transferred the idea of beads as an item of royalty to Bini. Only royalties back then wore red beads. The Bini do not have a record [historically or archeologically] to have had a bead industry or traded in it. We gave them monarchy, arts and we may have as well given them beads.

If I nor see literature on this, na thesis wey person fit work on o, at least a journal article.

Obalufon III na congnomen wey I dey hope use if I become Ooni in the future. So nor laugh at me o, egbon

You guys should settle this drift amicably before it gets worse and for those kids calling for war here, hope you'll be on ground to fight the fight when gbege starts.

Alexus23:

Please, stop this nonsense. Is it only in Ijaw land that oil is been drilled? What about Igboid areas in Rivers and Delta that oil is carted away on daily basis? No need even mentioning Abia and Imo. Ijaws are not the only region surffering from neglect and marginilization. Just don't involve us in your troubles.

Please don't bring our case here, let the Ijaws and Binis settle their case before mentioning Igbos abeg, we already have so many issues on our hands already.

What was decorating your "kings" palace when the british arrived ?
And what wars did your "kings" fight against the british ?
Which ones of your kings got exiled by the british ?
You are just like the illiterate who claims he taught a professor how to read.

ObalufonIII:


I’m weak, my egbon figured me out sha

I haven’t read an actual research stating they borrowed the bead stuff from us but archeological excavations in Ife come to mind. Old Ooni terracota and I think bronze works depict them to wear a lot of bead especially around the neck/chest area. Also, the red bead [Iyun] and blue bead [Segi] were Ife items of trade that we took to as far as Senegal/Ivory Coast [the kingdom/empire covering that geographical space many centuries in the past - I think Songhai] and Mali Empire. We can draw inference that Ife/Yoruba transferred the idea of beads as an item of royalty to Bini. Only royalties back then wore red beads. The Bini do not have a record [historically or archeologically] to have had a bead industry or traded in it. We gave them monarchy, arts and we may have as well given them beads.

If I nor see literature on this, na thesis wey person fit work on o, at least a journal article.

Obalufon III na congnomen wey I dey hope use if I become Ooni in the future. So nor laugh at me o, egbon

I will be on the first wave of the first battle.
The kid is the guy who is not ready to defend his kind from invaders.

Yyeske:
You guys should settle this drift amicably before it gets worse and for those kids calling for war here, hope you'll be on ground to fight the fight when gbege starts.

historyworld030:
Stop quoting wikipedia, those pages were written by people whom are just as clueless as you on the subject.
There is really something wrong in nigerian education which makes you guys constantly quote wikipedia on things such as undocumented african "history" !
Can anybody show actual evidence for these claims ?
The portuguese were already visiting Benin in the middle ages and the name they wrote down is Benin Kingdom, The Edo people also call their kingdom Benin Kingdom ! and now some fools are telling us a story about ibini or ubini or whatever and that it is the portugues who changed our name ? WTF is wrong with you people ?

Is the ilè ìbínú postulation wrong?

Afriifa:
what is this rejected vampire saying?

My friend, learn to respect your elders. Are you mad? You must be a war drunk junk.

Jupxter:
The Ijaws and the Benin Kingdom has still not resolved this issue? It's time the FG wade into this matter before we have a full blown war on our hands

I believe somebody has already gone to the villa to report the issue some few days ago, it's like they are waiting for them to start crowning again so that they can be picked up and locked up like ezazaki and Kanu

ObalufonIII:


I’m weak, my egbon figured me out sha

I haven’t read an actual research stating they borrowed the bead stuff from us but archeological excavations in Ife come to mind. Old Ooni terracota and I think bronze works depict them to wear a lot of bead especially around the neck/chest area. Also, the red bead [Iyun] and blue bead [Segi] were Ife items of trade that we took to as far as Senegal/Ivory Coast [the kingdom/empire covering that geographical space many centuries in the past - I think Songhai] and Mali Empire. We can draw inference that Ife/Yoruba transferred the idea of beads as an item of royalty to Bini. Only royalties back then wore red beads. The Bini do not have a record [historically or archeologically] to have had a bead industry or traded in it. We gave them monarchy, arts and we may have as well given them beads.

If I nor see literature on this, na thesis wey person fit work on o, at least a journal article.

Obalufon III na congnomen wey I dey hope use if I become Ooni in the future. So nor laugh at me o, egbon

Hahaha. I feel you with the emboldened

I wonder why we don't wear beads anymore sef. E come be like say na dem get am

If you want to have a discussion about stereotypes I think this is not the right thread.
As much as I would like to prove to you that "yoruba" are actually much more involved in prostitution than Edo, as you can see I am too busy here with other things. By the way I just passed in front of some yoruba prostitutes.

proudlyYoruba:
Is the ilè ìbínú postulation wrong?

Yyeske:
Please don't bring our case here, let the Ijaws and Binis settle their case before mentioning Igbos abeg, we already have so many issues on our hands already.

Did you not read his comment where he delibrately berated Igbos? he is a jack ass

historyworld030:
I will be on the first wave of the first battle.
The kid is the guy who is not ready to defend his kind from invaders.

Ok sir

Alexus23:

My friend, learn to respect your elders. Are you mad? You must be a war drunk junk.

I don't quote yoruba slaves.

Alexus23:

Did you not read his comment where he delibrately berated Igbos? he is a jack ass

I did and that was why I didn't want anybody to mention Igbo again after you did, we need to quench the taste for problem between both groups instead of bringing the Igbos into the fray.