Sagamite:


You are a cretinous person!

Were you educated in Kaduna State?

LordAdam16:


That is entirely your opinion. It is not objective. It is not fact.

And that you're arguing with an obvious prejudiced lens proves it. If Messi is unarguably better than CR7, it wouldn't be a debate, it'd be clear cut. CR7 wouldn't even win a Ballon D'Or, because Messi would simply overshadow him.

But that's not the case. Both have had their stretches. Messi won 4 of 5 ballon d'ors. CR7 has won 4 of the last 5 ballon d'ors. You can argue that Messi achieved the feat first. I can argue CR7 achieved the feat at a time he should be declining. Making his feat impossible for any other player who's ever played the game. We'd both have those who nod and those who disagree, but we'd have both made valid points that can't be thrown out.

Don't even want to debate the points you're bringing up. I'm just relishing the records CR7 keeps breaking and creating and that I can use to prove he is the better of the two. You guys can continue arguing about who's better, doesn't add a cent to my account.

-Lord

obonujoker:


How is henry EPL greatest ever player...?

Sagamite:


Which EPL players in history are better than him?

positivetaught:
messi is good but his success over time is due largely to the wonderful array of supportive talents around him,he really need to clear all doubts by trying other environments, if not out of hate you certainly can't describe the EPL as a mickey mouse league.

positivetaught:
it's not a stupid argument, Nezario Luis da lima(Rinaldo) started at PSV in Europe scoring 58goals in 58 matches move to Barcelona was a success, moved to inter was a success,won the world cup, before retiring,if he had remained at PSV scoring crazy amount of goals like Ally Mcoist of Scottish Rangers of yesteryears,who would have take him serious?.

Sagamite:


Ronaldo (CR7) is well better than Cruyff.

ObaKlaz:
You have no point, sir. I'd describe the EPL as mickey mouse league, and that's being objective - their performance in the UCL over the years butresses that. Y'all said Messi wouldn't perform without Xavi and Iniesta but he has become an hybrid of those guys, and performed very well without Xavi while Iniesta has aged. They said the same about MSN, yet Messi is top of the scoring chats with Neymar gone. All those guys are the VARIABLES, but Messi is the CONSTANT in the Barcelona arithmetic over the years. Pray tell; did CR7 have farmers and carpenters as team mates in United or even at R.Madrid?


MESSI HAS NOTHING TO PROVE BY GOING TO A MICKEY MOUSE LEAGUE!

Lhimeet:

Atleast he wasn't injured in 1 of the 3 world cups he won...So what again?...If we take out 2 based on the injury...He still got 1...You can type another excuse again now

LoJ:
Greatest in terms of what? It depends on the angle.

In terms of pure football skills and genius, I would say Ronaldinho and Maradona.

In terms of Trophies I would go for Pele.

In terms of completeness Lionel Messi has my vote anyday.

In terms of abnegation, self questionning, hard work and discipline, Ronaldo takes it anytime.

BUT, though I am a Ronaldo (both of them) fan, it is too early to conclude Messi wont be the greatest. There is a World cup coming... Who knows? Messi is a child of destiny, there is destiny written all over him. No one really knows.

I still love Ronaldo though. He has the right mindset for any one who wishes to go far in life, and does not count on "chance".

Sagamite:


TEAMS WIN WORLD CUPS!!!

Not players. I am not aware of any official record stating Pele won the WC, I am aware of one saying Brazil did!

It is not Tennis.

Don't argue based on misuse of terms you have seen popularly used. Pele was part of a team that won the WC, he did not win.

Now a fine argument might be made that a particular player played an extra-ordinarily exceptional part/single-handedly in winning a WC, so one can say the "player carried his team to win the WC". Fair enough!

But more education:

In 1958, Pele was a top player but the best player in the team was Didi. So Pele was crucial but he did not single-handedly carry the team. Didi was voted the best player at the WC.

In 1962, Pele was tackled had and injured after the 2nd game and played no further part in the WC after group stage. So Pele did not do anything exceptional, the team was good.

In 1970, the Brazilian team was regarded as the best team ever. Again Pele was crucial and probably the best player, but he did not carry this team full of stars, just like one cannot say Messi is carrying Barcelona when you have Iniesta, Xavi, Etoo, Puyol etc. He is just the best out of many.

So, mate, Pele has not won any WC. He was part of a team that has won WCs.

Messi has carried Argentina to WC final before, where they lost on penalties.

Ronaldo carried Portugal to win the Euros!

obonujoker:

Alan Shearer
Wayne Rooney
Ryan Giggs

obonujoker:

Cristiano Ronaldo....

Sagamite:


There are only 4 players on the short list for GOAT.

Messi, Maradona, Pele and CR7!

Xsem:
. Did he tell you that he wants to be the greatest? Be happy where ever you are and don't let haters or critics push you around. Contentment is the key, why would I want to prove anything to anyone when I am in the best club, doing fine, paid heavily, playing happily and have achieved everything I want. Just like how Christ dissapointed those that wanted him to showcase his powers and prove that he is God.
And who is struggling anything with Pele or maradona? They should have existed in this generation alongside Messi and Ronaldo, so we would judge fairly. Football used to be easy back then, no more like now

Lhimeet:
Your right,your opinion!

Sagamite:


Are you having a laugh?



Not before he moved to Spain.

Kingsley121:



Goal.com and op have a a lopsided view of this issue, why would he want to move when he plays for one of the best teams in the world, being paid well and also being treated well, what more could he ask for?
Going to to other leagues to ply his trade does not justify his greatness, do those other leagues not compete with barcelona in Uefa and get ousted out?
For someone who says if he would contend with a wet pitch and stoke city....lol, The kings of the English premier league have all been subjected to Messi's mastery and brilliance, talk less of stoke city.
And for those saying Ronaldo has gotten a trophy with his country,Everyone who was privileged to watch al portugal's matches in that tournament would know that Ronaldo was anonymous in most games, rather Nani was the man for portugal. And yes Messi has international accolades to his name like the U20 world youth championship in 2005 and the Beijing olympics in 2008

Most of the goals scored by pele were not in competitive matches, Ronaldo scores goals, Messi scores awesome goals.
To me, Messi remains the best that has ever played the round leather

1wolex85:


My point was that people should stop saying he won 3 world cups like he played. He wasnt even the best player at any of the world cups, many Brazilians will tell you that Garrincha was better

ObaKlaz:
You have no point, sir. I'd describe the EPL as mickey mouse league, and that's being objective - their performance in the UCL over the years butresses that. Y'all said Messi wouldn't perform without Xavi and Iniesta but he has become an hybrid of those guys, and performed very well without Xavi while Iniesta has aged. They said the same about MSN, yet Messi is top of the scoring chats with Neymar gone. All those guys are the VARIABLES, but Messi is the CONSTANT in the Barcelona arithmetic over the years. Pray tell; did CR7 have farmers and carpenters as team mates in United or even at R.Madrid?


MESSI HAS NOTHING TO PROVE BY GOING TO A MICKEY MOUSE LEAGUE!

obonujoker:


Your analysis eh... no wonder you support a clown like Buhari.... who made Henry EPL greatest player??

Sagamite:


No mind them.

The record of Nigeria vs Argentina at senior level is Arg 5 wins, Ngr 2 wins and 2 draws.

Nigeria has beaten Argentina twice when Messi was not in the team.

The first time we did, the embarassed Argentina quickly organised a rematch a week later with Messi and he destroyed us!

Shows you how dependent the Argentina team is on him and how poor most of the rest of players are.

Lhimeet:
Whether he was the best player or not....He was with BRAZIL when they won the world cup...Sefini

1wolex85:


Lie! total LIE

Xsem:
. Did he tell you that he wants to be the greatest? Be happy where ever you are and don't let haters or critics push you around. Contentment is the key, why would I want to prove anything to anyone when I am in the best club, doing fine, paid heavily, playing happily and have achieved everything I want. Just like how Christ dissapointed those that wanted him to showcase his powers and prove that he is God.
And who is struggling anything with Pele or maradona? They should have existed in this generation alongside Messi and Ronaldo, so we would judge fairly. Football used to be easy back then, no more like now

ObaKlaz:
...which you can't debate, 'cos it's the TRUTH.

1wolex85:


Lie! total LIE

1wolex85:


You really want to argue this? Who has been better than Henry in the EPL era?

obonujoker:


Alan Shearer
Wayne Rooney
Ryan Giggs

Cristiano Ronaldo....

samisj4real:
What truth is attached to the last line of your statement now?

Bros what about "EDER"?

KinzyeWriter:
Messi wants international trophy... Messi needs to explore other club except Barcelona as you read in the article.

Pele was hindered for not playing in Europe, but his strength is the 3 world cup he won even though he is not the all time goal scorer.

Maradona has the most tiny weakness, to have played in Europe and won trophies and also a world cup in his international level.


Ronaldo has proven himself in the EPL by winning everything, in sporting, in Madrid, and international level.


Messi on the other hand risen into greatness with great players, and failed bunch of times in the international level... Now he hinders himself for being a one club man..

He is just a Barcelona legend bro