danvon:
Then prove it u didn't answer my question

prove pink elephant doesn't exist and I'll use your methods

If this plate of Egusi soup and Eba has a creator- the chef- then I refuse to believe the entire unfathomable and highly organized universe with a beautiful and complex earth has no creator.

damariox:
Guys am fine.
Is Maobi Carl
Thanks everyone. Just got released

You're the person?

Lamzee:
Ogaa ooo, Atheist self dey get association

i said it. They would come to this forum posting,pastor this tithe that. Mumu christians would them join them ignorantly. I know something is wrong. It is clear to all now. They have association sef. Freez, it will never be well with you

I hope God saves him but then he may still not believe

BlackManta:


I have an invisible dragon in my bedroom.
I have faith that he is there.
I can feel his presence every time i close my eyes.
My invisible dragon is real.

But instead of me to prove that he exist, i am asking you to prove that he doesn't exist.


You think i'm stupid

Now take a look at your statement above.

Hahahaha, even better than the pink elephant analogy I used, hats off!

Lamzee:
Ogaa ooo, Atheist self dey get association

I wonder ooo

hopefulLandlord:


prove pink elephant doesn't exist and I'll use your methods

now ur trying to talk ur way out like all politicians do ur an idiot why don't you defend let me do d attack confused deluded you can't even try

bionixs:
i said it. They would come to this forum posting,pastor this tithe that. Mumu christians would them join them ignorantly. I know something is wrong. It is clear to all now. They have association sef. Freez, it will never be well with you

Yes we have an association.

It's called the Atheist Society of Nigeria (ASN).

E dey pain you

GordonAJ:
If this plate of Egusi soup and Eba has a creator- the chef- then I refuse to believe the entire unfathomable and highly organized universe with a beautiful and complex earth has no creator.

False! The chef didn't "create" the Eba, he changed cassava grains and hot water into "Eba" just like the person that changed the cassava into cassava grains didn't "create" cassava grains

danvon:
now ur trying to talk ur way out like all politicians do ur an idiot why don't you defend let me do d attack confused deluded you can't even try

and he calls me an idiot again!

if you say something isn't there and someone says its there, then the person asserting its there has the burden of proof

same way if I assert a pink elephant exists and you think it doesn't the onus is on me to provide a pink elephant or argue logically for why I'm certain a pink elephant exists NOT turning around and telling you to prove no pink elephant exists

danvon:
now I can see ur a brainwashed person who is attacking believers but can't even defend or define what he believes in

you're a comedian

Casinger:
Please DELETE those TWO words JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES OP, because..NO we do not pressurize people to change their religion.

We avoid pressuring people for the following reasons:

*Jesus never pressured people to accept his teachings. He knew that relatively few would respond to his message. ( Matthew 7:13, 14 )

*Jesus taught his followers not to push others to change their beliefs. Instead of trying to force people to accept the good
news of the Kingdom against their will, his disciples were to look for listeners who were receptive.— Matthew 10:7, 11-14 .

*Conversions made under compulsion are meaningless, since God only accepts worship that comes from the heart.—
Deuteronomy 6:4, 5; Matthew 22:37, 38 .

However, those accusations are false. We do not try to force our beliefs on anyone. Instead, we believe that people should be allowed to take in knowledge so that they may make an informed choice.

We do not coerce people into changing religions, nor do we carry out political activity under the guise of religion or offer material or
social advantages to gain new members. This is in contrast to some who claim to be Christian but have dishonored Christ by doing such things.

To know more about Jehovah's witnesses please kindly visit https://www.jw.org/en/

Thank you!

thanks for that writeup and clearing the mind of readers.....BTW am a Jehovah's witness

GordonAJ:
If this plate of Egusi soup and Eba has a creator- the chef- then I refuse to believe the entire unfathomable and highly organized universe with a beautiful and complex earth has no creator.

At least we know that the chef who cooked the food exists.
We can see him and touch him and speak directly to him.

But your god chose to make himself invincible and left humans to argue about his existence,write many holy books and form over 4200 religions.

Your god bleeped up big time.

If your god was as real as the chef.
There would be no atheist.

hopefulLandlord:


if you say something isn't there and someone says its there, then the person asserting its there has the burden of proof

same way if I assert a pink elephant exists and you think it doesn't the onus is on me to provide a pink elephant or argue logically for why I'm certain a pink elephant exists NOT turning around and telling you to prove no pink elephant exists

using ur pink elephant theory ur trying to say God exist because you haven't searched the whole universe to prove he doesn't exist

danvon:
using ur pink elephant theory ur trying to say God exist because you haven't searched the whole universe to prove he doesn't exist

You're saying absence of evidence is evidence of presence?

lovelygurl:


You're the person?

Yeah. Was surprised to see this on nairaland. Front page at that!!
Can I handle this?

Dronedude:


Oh really if the level of science you know is your peak then as they say, there is always room for learning.

You are smart but to a level which needs improvement. Im not competing, i just made my point.

Everything about you feels so contrived man. You have to explain when metaphysics became a science.

I don't trust "people of great learning" who say metaphysics is a science so it is you who has to expand your thinking.

hopefulLandlord:


You're saying absence of evidence is evidence of presence?

u haven't answered my question anyway, I'm trying to say if you can't prove he doesn't exist don't say he doesn't exist if you die what if you were wrong about it, u see in d end u admitted atheist are stupid if they are even atheists

There is no such thing as an atheist d only thing close is someone who has lied to himself frequently that there is no God he actually believed it

BlackManta:


At least we know that the chef who cooked the food exists.
We can see him and touch him and speak directly to him.

But your god chose to make himself invincible and left humans to argue about his existence,write many holy books and form over 4200 religions.

Your god bleeped up big time.

If your god was as real as the chef.
There would be no atheist.

You didn't see the chef who prepared the meal in the pic yet you believe he must exist. It is for the same reason I believe in God.

danvon:
u haven't answered my question anyway, I'm trying to say if you can't prove he doesn't exist don't say he doesn't exist if you die what if you were wrong about u see in d end u admitted atheist are stupid if they are even atheists

I can prove the god you're talking about doesn't exist! this is why I tell theists to tell us fully what they mean by "God"

but for the proof of a nonpersonal god, I'll prove it doesn't exist after you've proven a pink elephant does not exist

hopefulLandlord:


False! The chef didn't "create" the Eba, he changed cassava grains and hot water into "Eba" just like the person that changed the cassava into cassava grains didn't "create" cassava grains

You are correct indeed but that's not my point. Thats english language. So i will modify my statement using the word 'prepare'. If a plate of eba and egusi soup was prepared by someone and is not a product of chance then someone made the earth for habitation against all odds. I believe in that One.

GordonAJ:
You are correct indeed but that's not my point. Thats english language. So i will modify my statement using the word 'prepare'. If a plate of eba and egusi soup was prepared by someone and is not a product of chance then someone made the earth for habitation against all odds. I believe in that One.

okay, this makes sense but I have to raise my reservation with how you move from "someone changed cassava and hot water into eba" to "therefore some entity created us", once you admit create isn't the right word for the eba analogy, it then affects the conclusion you derived about the universe from the eba unless you're saying god came to change an already existing but non life universe into a life permitting one just like a chef changes a poisonous and dangerous snake into a palatable one

Even if God appeared to a typical atheist he still will not believe in him. He might probably try to come up with a baseless scientific explanation, as we have seen in the unproven darwinian evolution theory.

damariox:

Yeah. Was surprised to see this on nairaland. Front page at that!!
Can I handle this?

What happened exactly? Maybe you should create a thread and explain your side of the story bro

GordonAJ:
You didn't see the chef who prepared the meal in the pic yet you believe he must exist. It is for the same reason I believe in God.

I have seen many chefs before to know that a chef prepared that food.

But gods are invisible and mostly man made, so how do i know

If you ar in d today's Easter Nigeria and is practicing islam./atheism/juju Then.your position will be worse than a psychiatric patient.

BlackManta:


I have seen many chefs before to know that a chef prepared that food.

But gods are invisible and mostly man made, so how do i know

Well the argument may go on and on. But so long as I have never seen anything organized and functional materializing out of nothing by chance then I stick to my belief in creation. At least we all have the right to free will it is a wonderful gift from the Maker.

danvon:
a theory is something that can be proven its a myth and only an atheist can produce something so stupid

Have you heard of the theory of the virgin birth

BlackManta:


Yes we have an association.

It's called the Atheist Society of Nigeria (ASN).

E dey pain you

for your head,if you like belong to lucifer association of anywhere. Na only one kin sickness you need and your type ends up in one corner corner white garment prayer house wey them go dey use koboko dey drive demons comot from your head. See local atheist,mtww make I see road joor!

anssy:

Have you heard of the theory of the virgin birth

yes I believe my God can make a man without a woman *Adam* make a woman without a woman *Eve* yes I surely believe in the virgin birth prove d story of creation is a myth den I'll say d virgin birth is a myth does that answer your question