₦airaland Forum

LordAdam16:
They don't deal with it. They accept it as facts of life. Not as anomalies but part of what it means to be Nigerian. The Nigerian psyche is damaged beyond repair and it is heavily contagious. Which is why no matter how long you stay outside the shores where things are much better, the moment you land in MMIA, your brain resets to survival mode. Like you just ported back in time to the Jurassic period where every living thing is out to maim you.

And the sick thing is that most can't even imagine it being better. Sure they see the better infrastructure and hear of better pay, but they could never fathom what it is like to live in a society where things work better than they do in Nigeria.

-Lord

alexialin:
Lol ,he's a joker.

Don't mind him, he thinks Nigeria is a child's play.

And you are right, other peeps who thinks like him, should also understand the reality here.

It's crazy.

One must be as wise as a fox and mild like a dove, to be able to survive here.

My neighbor came from US, to relocate back to nija. Initially it was fun for him, until he couldn't take it anymore. Most times when I walk down the street heading back home, I sight him smoking his lungs out like a chimney, with whisky in one hand. Every blessed day

One day I heared him talking to another neighbor as he was smoking that he's tired of this gaddamed country and he's running broke, he wants to sell his building and get the fucvk out of here. He can't take it anymore and how much will my 2nd neighbor buy his building of four flats, spacious o.
At the end, I heard he sold the four blocks of flat for N15million inside illupeju.

I was like WTF!

The guy received his alert, called all the tenants in the other flats that he had sold everything and hes getting out of here. He can't take it anymore. Lol
That's how he left. He even dashed his furnitures, TV and all, to the buyer.
And left.
The new landlord, gave everyone quit notice and the end.. He's not back till date.
Nija is fucvked up.

Another one came. From UK, he built a massive house in ikorodu. He like bragging he has money and he loves spending on his friends, that's how thieves came one faithful day he came back from abroad trips. Cause he loves travelling to and fro every 3months.

So a close family friend gave a tip off to thieves, the day he arrived nija as usual.

Come and see beating, and later took his 10000pounds ,they ran away and left him bloodied. My dear, when he reported the case to police. Police caught one of the thieves. That one then confessed it was his family friend wife! A high profile family in the society !

He was so disappointed. He couldn't get his money back. They shared it amongst themselves and the other thieves yet to be caught.
Police advised him to let go of the matter Orelse if he pursue the case and place the wife of his friend in jail with the thief they caught, his life will be in extreme danger. He won't even live to judge the case in court.

That's how he left Nigeria angrily and sever ties with people here. Vowing never tk come back.

It's that bad!

9jaDoc:
Well said. The SYSTEM is rotten. So even if u r making money you still have to meanwhile live within that mess and could be robbed, kidnapped, or killed and your family can't sue for millions.

BluFlyBoy:
Of course I do, but I'm still asking, I want to get as much information as possible. I'm not trying to offend anyone, I just looking for know what people are feeling.

Deban:
My advice, there is nothing like home. Home is where you make it, but you have to be rugged, determined, smart to hit the ground and running.

A lot of people do not fulfill there potentials abroad until they finally come home. In the US or Europe, you don't get close to those in government because you don't know them. there are procurement jobs or contracts by the US or European government. The people in government patronise companies of people they already know, being childhood friends, neighbours, school mates. Now, not being born Americans or Europeans mean you will be a stranger and outsider to this opportunities. You can't really fulfill your potentials. In the end, you end up working forever in US or Europe and live from hand to mouth. In Nigeria, you will have opportunities to own and grow your company and have your childhood friends, school mates in authority patronise you with contract or procurement job or whatever field of specialization. You can actually be employer of labour in Nigeria. Most owners of the new generation banks were trained in US or Europe.

I lived in the Western world for over 13 years, with Masters degree from there. Naturalised and kids. but I struggled from hand to mouth. I worked in the financial industry. I tried coming back several times but left out of frustration. But I know I want to live well and rule my world than live where the time determines what I do, wake, work, gym, watch TV and sleep, only to wake up and repeat same activity the next day, seeing less educated white boys boss me. I know I did not want to see white boys bidding and getting contracts from the borough while I struggle to bid and win after I registered my company. During President Jonathan's era, many US and Europe based flooded Nigeria. I seized the opportunity. I registered a company in Nigeria and started networking and winning contracts. Invested in transport with my buses plying Lagos, Abuja, PH. Expanded my fleet during Jonathan's era because profit was good. Recession has made it difficult making profit but still hanging on. Can actually train my kids in the West from proceeds I make from Nigeria. Can drive Range Rover, Toyota High Lander, Chrysler 300, Sienna paid cash in Nigeria and not mortgage as we so in the western world. I can buy land and build easily with profit from a business in Nigeria. You have to network and work hard. I finally caught up with my friends who stayed back in Nigeria after we left school while I wet overseas. While I was in abroad, they were doing better financially and visited me and I cursed myself for ever migrating. But with determination, I left the circle of work, eat, watch TV, sleep, came down to Nigeria and improved financially, happier, livelier, more comfortable. When things became better, went back and gave out most valuables I had. I can not see myself going back to live permanently overseas again. My very closed relatives who migrated to US in the 70s and with several degrees do not have the cash I have since I came to hustle in Nigeria. Dangote could be the richest African because he is based in Nigeria. He would not have been if he migrated to US or Europe. There is opportunity in Nigeria, but leave your options open to go back if it does not work well in Nigeria. Target a business where you will have 180m Nigerians patronising you. The population is a huge market. Agriculture/farming is lucrative. Eatery or Supermarket can be lucrative too. I know a girl friend who left the US to Nigeria and went into fish farming about the year 1999. By when I came in 2012, she was making a lot of money from it and regretted not coming back from US much earlier. There is nothing like home where opportunities are many, but prepare your mind to deal with security issues, rowdiness, unruly traffic and drivers, bad road, corrupt police, power failure. Your determination to succeed will see you through in Nigeria.

it is fun living in Nigeria.

erico2k2:
Wait nah cos I burst ur Bubble say U dey live in SENEGAL you dey Vex? , where did my location say Canada??Plz change your IGBO supplier

9jaDoc:
Ok, but seriously, EXACTLY HOW do u deal with some of the following (add yours):

rampant corruption everywhere and
corrupt politicians
and corrupt police
and SARS
and ritualists,
and kidnappers,
and conmen,
and yahoo boys,
and brazen robbers,
and Boko Haram,
and IPOB,
and Delta Avengers,
and baby factories,
and child molesters,
and human traffickers,
and non-viable:-
power supply,
hospitals,
schools,
infrastructure,
water supply,
waste disposal,
drainage system,
building inspection,
collapsing buildings,
dillapidated housing,
drug inspection,
food inspection,
clearing and forwarding,
customs,
mental health,
handicapped empowerment,
legal system,
judiciary,
banking system,
monetary system,
Fulani herdsmen
and military
and aviation
and filthy seaports (Apapa)
rampant strikes
fake everything
(add yours)

ibedun:
Then jet off to Libya

ibedun:
See story!

You will end up in Libya if care is not taken.

timesup234:
There are more people being robbed, kidnapped and killed in America than Nigeria. You guys are truly under a brainwashing circle. Nairaland is filled with minors who are just starting life. No sane person in his/her mid 30's will type some of the garbage I see here. Only brainwashed mofos believe success has anything to do with location. America gives you zero chance of making it like everywhere in the world. You must create your success path yourself. This is a thread of the dumbest set of individuals

smato:
U have to invest in Nigeria, invest in bitclub where u earn 300% ROI for a year, u will be paid every week for a year

Wizard999:
chief, I am proudly in my country.. I am also living my dream!! I would never trade it for anything in this world...

BluFlyBoy:
I plan on coming back with about 30000 USD and getting myself land/property to my name, complete NYSC, see what the job market is like as well as concurrently starting a one or two provisions stores. Slowly expand on that, with the end goal to become a distributor at the national level.

maestroferddi:
Ogbeni make hear word abeg!


Which kind of snake oil salesman advice were you by plucking figures out of the air?

An investor battens down the hatches with seed capital of N9m; procures land/space and equipment therefrom for a service/filling station and pronto! makes a daily profit of N400k?

The land matter is an over flogged issue I'm tired of talking abt it but beware that in some places except major cities land is still as cheap as buying the owner a bottle of wine ...

Yes some filling stations make a profit of up to 400k daily... I would the example I used earlier I was at the filling station nd bought fuel worth 15k the guy in front of me filled up his tank before me, the time that day was still 7am in the morning

Do you know how many people drive in and patronize a filling station per day, especially when they know ur pumps gives accurate readings of fuel bought. Sit down there brother just sit down there,

Awon omo Linus tabi Lie Lie Mohammed...

Fidelmalek:
How are the slaves in Libya feeling?
Compare it to Nigeria and draw your conclusions...
Why do you want to come back to this hell hole?
Or are you facing deportation
On a lighter side though, Nigeria is not worth coming back to...
It's sad... Very sad that our nation is subjected to this justifiable ridicule...

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For those quoting me, won't you run naked all the way from here to South Africa, if presented the opportunity? � � �� � �
Hypocrisy at it's peak...You all are trying to paint Nigeria good but won't mind getting smuggled by canoe to Italy..

hsim247:
Dear OP,
There's this terribly humbling effect Nigeria has on abroad returnees and it is never a good story to recount.
Do well.

hsim247:
Dear OP,
You must sit down and ask yourself why you want to return to Nigeria. Passion alone is not enough. In fact if you return inadequately, your passion might quickly metamorphorse to compassion for yourself.
I will advice you get a plan b and start working on it immediately incase. There's this terribly humbling effect Nigeria has on abroad returnees and it is never a good story to recount.
Do well.

9jaDoc:
I'm just saddened by your tone. Like someone who has really tried but is finally giving up

Magnifik18:
Why don't you look into relocating to Canada or Australia as a professional ??

Wizard999:
chief, I am proudly in my country.. I am also living my dream!! I would never trade it for anything in this world...

RedGold2017:
The reason why Nigeria is a failed state is right here on this thread, it's "THE PEOPLE " . We blame the government often, but the people are the government. I shake my head for the next nigerian generation, most Nigerians need major re-orientation. For some odd reason Nigerians think it's easy overseas, I shake my head. Let me tell you a fact, if you can't make anything out of yourself in Nigeria, you will NEVER do better abroad either. Until you've worked and struggled abroad with no moral support and you suffer from bouts of depression, you will NEVER understand. Your average American believes in their country and most have stayed to make it what it is. If they bailed at any sign of challenges, you will not be dying to cross over.
How i wish the American government can just grant the wishes of some of you so you can go and experience life or If there wasn't any option to relocate maybe you all would make something of yourselves.
OP, in life strive to find yourself wherever you are, by all means do not be an illegal alien in any country, it never really ends well. It's either you find a way to legalize or start mapping out your plan to come to Nigeria. 30k is about 10mill , you can buy treasury bills. Take the almost 2mill upfront, find someone to room with on the island, pay a years rent with half. And start exploring opportunities. It's not a must you should wear suit and tie and scavenge the whole city for employment. Try looking for areas of improvement where you can provide service. Even in today's America, if you want to make it big you have to think of ingenious ideas and areas that haven't been tapped into. Same applies anywhere in the world if you don't want to remain complacent with mediocrity.
Re-orientate yourself from all these kiddos and oldies that aspire to the champagne lifestyle, you can survive on what you have till something works out. Ignore all these ones whose role models are politicians, scammers and what not, do not despise the power of good old hard work and dedication, it still goes a long way. Problem with Nigerians is everyone wants to arrive quickly, someone without employment for 10yrs wants to be a boss in 1 month, that's why most of them are mostly unemployable. Always envious of the person with a car/ better life when they don't know their story or how much they worked to get it. Your average American starts working at McDonald's or the mall.at age 16 to grasp the concept of earning a living, life just doesn't happen, you work you way through it.

My point? it all boils down to you, stay illegally in the US and God help you Trump and his people come after you, you will find yourself at the back of MMA with only a knapsack to your name. Be wise.

Deban:
My advice, there is nothing like home. Home is where you make it, but you have to be rugged, determined, smart to hit the ground and running.

A lot of people do not fulfill there potentials abroad until they finally come home. In the US or Europe, you don't get close to those in government because you don't know them. there are procurement jobs or contracts by the US or European government. The people in government patronise companies of people they already know, being childhood friends, neighbours, school mates. Now, not being born Americans or Europeans mean you will be a stranger and outsider to this opportunities. You can't really fulfill your potentials. In the end, you end up working forever in US or Europe and live from hand to mouth. In Nigeria, you will have opportunities to own and grow your company and have your childhood friends, school mates in authority patronise you with contract or procurement job or whatever field of specialization. You can actually be employer of labour in Nigeria. Most owners of the new generation banks were trained in US or Europe.

I lived in the Western world for over 13 years, with Masters degree from there. Naturalised and kids. but I struggled from hand to mouth. I worked in the financial industry. I tried coming back several times but left out of frustration. But I know I want to live well and rule my world than live where the time determines what I do, wake, work, gym, watch TV and sleep, only to wake up and repeat same activity the next day, seeing less educated white boys boss me. I know I did not want to see white boys bidding and getting contracts from the borough while I struggle to bid and win after I registered my company. During President Jonathan's era, many US and Europe based flooded Nigeria. I seized the opportunity. I registered a company in Nigeria and started networking and winning contracts. Invested in transport with my buses plying Lagos, Abuja, PH. Expanded my fleet during Jonathan's era because profit was good. Recession has made it difficult making profit but still hanging on. Can actually train my kids in the West from proceeds I make from Nigeria. Can drive Range Rover, Toyota High Lander, Chrysler 300, Sienna paid cash in Nigeria and not mortgage as we so in the western world. I can buy land and build easily with profit from a business in Nigeria. You have to network and work hard. I finally caught up with my friends who stayed back in Nigeria after we left school while I wet overseas. While I was in abroad, they were doing better financially and visited me and I cursed myself for ever migrating. But with determination, I left the circle of work, eat, watch TV, sleep, came down to Nigeria and improved financially, happier, livelier, more comfortable. When things became better, went back and gave out most valuables I had. I can not see myself going back to live permanently overseas again. My very closed relatives who migrated to US in the 70s and with several degrees do not have the cash I have since I came to hustle in Nigeria. Dangote could be the richest African because he is based in Nigeria. He would not have been if he migrated to US or Europe. There is opportunity in Nigeria, but leave your options open to go back if it does not work well in Nigeria. Target a business where you will have 180m Nigerians patronising you. The population is a huge market. Agriculture/farming is lucrative. Eatery or Supermarket can be lucrative too. I know a girl friend who left the US to Nigeria and went into fish farming about the year 1999. By when I came in 2012, she was making a lot of money from it and regretted not coming back from US much earlier. There is nothing like home where opportunities are many, but prepare your mind to deal with security issues, rowdiness, unruly traffic and drivers, bad road, corrupt police, power failure. Your determination to succeed will see you through in Nigeria.

it is fun living in Nigeria.

Pidgin2:
Abuja is not the only state where he can get soft landing, I live in Lagos and have averagely 20hrs light daily plus neat environ e bi like say u no dry com home often. In fact, many more States are easier to live in and more quiet than Abuja

erico2k2:
Another one . I know you living yoyr dream . No one can take that away dnt forget it's Your Dream .

BluFlyBoy:
I plan on coming back with about 30000 USD and getting myself land/property to my name, complete NYSC, see what the job market is like as well as concurrently starting a one or two provisions stores. Slowly expand on that, with the end goal to become a distributor at the national level.

babaskool:
So uve quickly forgotten that my uni was in Southampton something I told u like a minute ago, and what's ur point somone cannot go to school in a differnt city and still maintain his international acumen and drive.. I am a lawyer with an incredible experience in corporate transactions, I will never say anything I don't know anything abt

LordAdam16:
For factory job.

Which is embarrassingly low because in China, with all the population and cheap labor, factory jobs are over $1000/mo.

You make valid points, but I could slam you for the same reasons you're slamming others.

NIGERIA is a sh*thole. That is a fact.

That you're able to make it. Or that less than 10% make a decent salary does not make it any less than a sh*thole.

Most people are not living in Nigeria, they're surviving.

There's a reason why America is called the land of opportunity and the West welcome immigrants (well, until recently); while here in Nigeria we emphasize on connections. Whoever has connections in any part of the globe will get better opportunities. Simple as!

However, the average person would not always have these connections. That's why people go to school (or some higher learning institution) to get vital skills and improve themselves so they can get jobs based on merit and are able to live comfortably.

Trust me, if you can make $6000 annually in Nigeria, you can make $60k annually in the West. You say you do freelancing and you think that's some big deal.

Well, let's see. In the West, one could buy a new laptop with a credit card, or pay in installments. Get grandfathered in for cheap with 4G internet (not mobile broadband) or go to a coffee shop and use WiFi for free. Electricity is cheap and constant. Rent is the only big issue, but you can stay with a roommate or go live downtown. And here's the important fact, rather than rely solely on platforms that could axe your account anytime, you actually have the leverage of contacting local businesses and entrepreneurs locally for better paying gigs.

So, you see. If you can hustle hard to make it in Nigeria as a freelancer, it wouldn't even be a struggle for you in the West. And if all else fails, there's always the option to flip burgers at McDonalds or sell popcorn at Target for $11/hour. And have a second and even third job to boost your finance.

Can someone make it in Nigeria? Yes. But let's not mislead people to believe it'll only require the same effort it'd take to make it outside the shores. It'd take considerably more. Unless, you're deeply connected or extremely lucky. To be absolutely clear, that's not how things should be. Running a business in Nigeria is insane.

And here's the most important factor I've not seen mentioned in this thread, life in Nigeria. I hate it. I can't even bring myself to read some stories on NL anymore. I don't keep up with the #EndSARS campaign on Twitter because the stories shared by fellow Nigerians make me sick. Literally. And to know nothing will be done about it just makes me more bitter.

This is a country where the Airforce killed innocent refugees apparently by mistake and nothing happened. Nothing came out of the investigation and nobody is bothered. Nobody out of almost 200m people is bothered. Every week women are raped, farmers are killed in my home state by certain untouchable people and it doesn't even make the news. Even if it does, we are all content with displaying momentary sadness on social media, and practically 60 seconds later we don't give a sh*t. No protest.

People die and live like dogs and no one gives a sh*t. Not even the deeply religious people.

It's like we've become conditioned to barbarism, we think this is all life can offer, and the only thing that matters to us is the size of our bank accounts. Because deep down we all know it's the only thing stopping us from being bundled accidentally into a prison and left to rot for a fabricated crime. Or to protect yourself from criminals. Or to give yourself a semblance of a normal life and numb yourself to the harsh truth that is the Nigerian way of life.

I don't think you've ever sat down and thought about how many people go missing in Nigeria daily. The skulls being sold for 2k, who were those people? Someone earlier today was drawing attention to the fact that her brother had been missing for 7 years after been taken by SARS. That could be you. Taken, killed, dumped in a bush or in a river. EOD. Case closed. No missing person's report. If there is, it's just another file or name. The killers will be out the next day scouting for their next victim. At the end of the month, they're paid by a government that claims to serve you. Unless you are connected to a top politician or a top businessman or clergy or let's just say a high ranking member of the society.

I honestly cannot respect anyone who looks at this Nigeria, where laws aren't worth sh*t, and says it's a good place to live in because some happen to have more money and live in gated communities in Lekki or Asokoro or in high-brow neighborhoods. It feels like it's a living hazard to stay in Nigeria as an average Nigerian.

Making more money doesn't make your life better. It just allows you to game a system rigged to cater to the highest bidder to the detriment of the average Joe and Jane. And you don't mind and you don't care. Because you know it's either you or them.

I know for most Nigerians, none of this matters. You could care less if Dangote's trailer mows down everyone in your street, as long as you're the only one who makes it out alive. It'd make for a good testimony on Sunday. Every other person be damned. No one would call for the Dangote driver to be prosecuted or even follow it up. No one would call for stricter implementation of speed limits. You wouldn't. We'd just go ahead hoping we keep cheating death and unfortunate situations until our luck runs out.

Such that the same issues that killed our fathers are the same issues killing our children. No improvements.

And you think that's living the good life? With your 400 f*cking dollars. You think it's worth it to expose yourself to the dangers and stress of living in this bloody country for how much? I mean you've practically priced your quality of life. And I've not even started talking about healthcare, government accountability, lifestyle compatibility and the likes.

It's a long read, and I salute your patriotism, but it is seriously misplaced.

-Lord