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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by Mujtahida: 9:19am On Dec 21, 2017
dalaman:


These are dubious bible versions that sort to change the true meaning because the translators DO NOT like what the original message says and chose to change it to give it their own acceptable meaning. That is why there are DIFFERENT English translations of the bible each carrying the agenda of the publisher. That is a know FACT. There is a very different meaning between disaster and evil. Filled with sorrow is different from repenting. Which is the actual translation of the verse?

I am.always very careful before I throw bible verses at people.

The JPS which the Jews consider as the most accurate English translation of the Hebrew Bible translates the verse as follows :


JPS Tanakh 1917
"If ye will still abide in this land, then will I build you, and not pull you down, and I will plant you, and not pluck you up; for I repent Me of the evil that I have done unto you".

This is from the JPS which the Jews consider as the most accurate English translation of the Hebrew Bible. The verse speaks for itself. It says I repent for the evil i've done unto you.

Diffrent Bible translators found it unpalatable and decided to spin it and give it their own meaning from saying am sorry for the punishment, to am sorry for the disaster that I sent. Punishment and disasters do not mean evil.
This is another evidence that your God is a man made entity, his words and everything he says or does has to be done by man with his different agenda. Men will write down the words and others with totally different agendas will come and translate it for other men. Same men will then go and speared this word. Your God never does anything for himself. It's men that do everything for it, yet it exist . Your sorry of an OP is trying to establish the existence of a God using some beer palor gimmicks.

You think if A God exist it will rely on you and your beer palor gimmicks to prove it's existence to atheist? You remaina huge and empty joke.
The bolded nicely captures my sentiments. Book god, that's what their god is. I say any god that speaks in a book is an idol- created by men who put words in his mouth. Funny thing is that Jehovah is often cast as a god that hates idolatry and the Bible often mocks idols and idolaters

Here is psalms 115:4-7
But their idols are silver and gold,
made by human hands.
5 They have mouths, but cannot speak,
eyes, but cannot see.
6 They have ears, but cannot hear,
noses, but cannot smell.
7 They have hands, but cannot feel,
feet, but cannot walk,
nor can they utter a sound with their throats.

But pray tell me if by this criteria Jehovah is not even less than an idol: he has no mouth and does not speak ; pastors, prophets, priests and teachers speak on his behalf just like prophets, priests and seers speak for idols.
He has no ears. He hears nothing. No nose, no smell
He has no hands and does nothing. It is man that does everything for him. He has no feet and goes no where.

There is a force in the universe but that force doesn't speak, doesn't talk. It's like the sun. The god who purportedly speaks in the bible is a pretender.

In the Bible even the words the human characters like Abraham, Moses, Eli, Samuel, Elijah, Jeroboam, David, John, Peter, Stephen speak to other human characters in the Bible are regarded as the words of God. Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha. It's a scam, a carefully scripted scam.

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 9:29am On Dec 21, 2017
LadyMarionette:




The point is, nobody should agree to the terms in the Op. It's not a contest. And judging by the responses so far, people have already judged it for what it is: a joke. undecided

With this half-assed challenge, you're the one refusing to commit to an honest contest, not the atheist who's refusing to comment. You might as well just shove it.
It does not help to be mean and insulting to Kingebukasblog. He has consistently responded with dignity and extreme patience.
You once again prove that the alleged 22yr long study to be correct. It says that ATHEISM is a mental disease. WHY else can you not understand the fairness of the rules in the Op?

It is unfortunate, but most Low-level Atheists real motive for defending atheism is that they love the self-centered destructive moral depravity.

Do you perhaps also use a Dongle for sexual relief?

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by malvisguy212: 9:33am On Dec 21, 2017
dalaman:


These are dubious bible versions that sort to change the true meaning because the translators DO NOT like what the original message says and chose to change it to give it their own acceptable meaning. That is why there are DIFFERENT English translations of the bible each carrying the agenda of the publisher. That is a know FACT. There is a very different meaning between disaster and evil. Filled with sorrow is different from repenting. Which is the actual translation of the verse?

I am.always very careful before I throw bible verses at people.

The JPS which the Jews consider as the most accurate English translation of the Hebrew Bible translates the verse as follows :


JPS Tanakh 1917
"If ye will still abide in this land, then will I build you, and not pull you down, and I will plant you, and not pluck you up; for I repent Me of the evil that I have done unto you".

This is from the JPS which the Jews consider as the most accurate English translation of the Hebrew Bible. The verse speaks for itself. It says I repent for the evil i've done unto you.

Diffrent Bible translators found it unpalatable and decided to spin it and give it their own meaning from saying am sorry for the punishment, to am sorry for the disaster that I sent. Punishment and disasters do not mean evil.
This is another evidence that your God is a man made entity, his words and everything he says or does has to be done by man with his different agenda. Men will write down the words and others with totally different agendas will come and translate it for other men. Same men will then go and speared this word. Your God never does anything for himself. It's men that do everything for it, yet it exist . Your sorry of an OP is trying to establish the existence of a God using some beer palor gimmicks.

You think if A God exist it will rely on you and your beer palor gimmicks to prove it's existence to atheist? You remaina huge and empty joke.
you used the king James translations for your argument but when the op reply you,you criticized the same Translation you used.

God is not the author of evil. However, God does reward and punish on the basis of good and bad behavior. Therefore, God does bring judgment and calamity (either directly or through human authorities) on those who rebel.

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by LadyMarionette(f): 9:35am On Dec 21, 2017
ScienceWatch:
It does not help to be mean and insulting to Kingebukasblog. He has consistently responded with dignity and extreme patience.
You once again prove that the 22yr long study to be correct. It says that ATHEISM is a mental disease. WHY else can you not understand the fairness of the rules in the Op?

It is unfortunate, but most Low-level Atheists real motive for defending atheism is that they love the self-centered destructive moral depravity.

Do you you also use a Dongle for sexual relief?


Okay. Happy 25th of December to you.

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:43am On Dec 21, 2017
dalaman:


These are dubious bible versions that sort to change the true meaning because the translators DO NOT like what the original message says and chose to change it to give it their own acceptable meaning. That is why there are DIFFERENT English translations of the bible each carrying the agenda of the publisher. That is a know FACT. There is a very different meaning between disaster and evil. Filled with sorrow is different from repenting. Which is the actual translation of the verse?

I am.always very careful before I throw bible verses at people.

The JPS which the Jews consider as the most accurate English translation of the Hebrew Bible translates the verse as follows :


JPS Tanakh 1917
"If ye will still abide in this land, then will I build you, and not pull you down, and I will plant you, and not pluck you up; for I repent Me of the evil that I have done unto you".

This is from the JPS which the Jews consider as the most accurate English translation of the Hebrew Bible. The verse speaks for itself. It says I repent for the evil i've done unto you.

Diffrent Bible translators found it unpalatable and decided to spin it and give it their own meaning from saying am sorry for the punishment, to am sorry for the disaster that I sent. Punishment and disasters do not mean evil.
This is another evidence that your God is a man made entity, his words and everything he says or does has to be done by man with his different agenda. Men will write down the words and others with totally different agendas will come and translate it for other men. Same men will then go and speared this word. Your God never does anything for himself. It's men that do everything for it, yet it exist . Your sorry of an OP is trying to establish the existence of a God using some beer palor gimmicks.

You think if A God exist it will rely on you and your beer palor gimmicks to prove it's existence to atheist? You remaina huge and empty joke.

Let me first ignore your cherry-picking and ask you these questions. Your emptiness will finally be exposed for all to see

1. Define evil

2. What evil did God do in Jeremiah 42 : 10

*holds laugh

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 9:44am On Dec 21, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
@ dalaman






See the two comments . I explained what "repent" in the passage means . But you chose to stick to your inane position and I had to let you be . You see how empty you are . grin grin
This dude and a few other drop-outs are really exhausting everyone in the class Sir. You have repeatedly gone over the Curriculum and even gave him private tuition.

What are his dark hidden motives? Is he the spineless type - easily influenced by his peers or does he come from a broken home and now have no respect for the authority of TRUTH?

Kingebukasblog, may you live long, may both you elbows be greased. RESPECT !

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:46am On Dec 21, 2017
ScienceWatch:
This dude and a few other drop-outs are really exhausting everyone in the class Sir. You have repeatedly gone over the Curriculum and even gave him private tuition.

What are his dark hidden motives? Is he the spineless type - easily influenced by his peers or does he come from a broken home and now have no respect for the authority of TRUTH?

Lol . my brother . Relax and enjoy . You are about this see why butterflyl1on makes fun of dalaman.

I hope cold drink dey with you

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by JackBizzle: 9:47am On Dec 21, 2017
Mujtahida:

Stop wasting your time and energy. The criteria for the debate is as absurdly unprecedented if not inane. Nemo judex in causa sua (which is a maxim of law) meaning you cannot be a judge in your own case.

It's non-sensical to propose a debate on such criteria.

Cc kingebukasblog,

Can you see why your thread is dumb?

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:56am On Dec 21, 2017
JackBizzle:


Cc kingebukasblog,

Can you see why your thread is dumb?

The "law" is for fairness in a legal system because of the suspicion of bias . I hope you understand what this means .

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:02am On Dec 21, 2017
malvisguy212:
you used the king James translations for your argument but when the op reply you,you criticized the same Translation you used.

God is not the author of evil. However, God does reward and punish on the basis of good and bad behavior. Therefore, God does bring judgment and calamity (either directly or through human authorities) on those who rebel.

Dalaman is a complete joke . If he is critizing other English translations then the translation which he picked should also be criticized. Claiming that JPS is a generally accepted translation by the Jews is a big lie . The statement was made to make other translations look bad . And by the way , even if the translation is accepted by the Jews , it does not mean the translation does a perfect job of translating the Hebrew Bible . But not to worry , he is going to reveal his emptiness very soon .

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 10:16am On Dec 21, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


The adoration of one's self has led to so much evil in this world , that's if you are cognizant of the evil Marxism , Fascism , Socialism has brought upon man
Very true !!!!!
And that is why Low-level unregistered Atheists are looking for excuses to opt-out of this liberating challenge. THEY ADMIRE THEIR PITIFUL SELF.

Kingebukasblog, When I heard about this incredible challenge you faithfully engineered for the positive benefit of humanity I was a bit sceptical at first. But after reading the well laid out and easy to understand INSTRUCTIONS in the OP, I knew that you are inspired and selfless.

Remember Sir, it is nature of self to rip apart all this is wholesome to humanity. Therein lies the evidence of INSANITY.
You are kicking down the doors that has blocked our access to TRUTH for hundreds of years.

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:22am On Dec 21, 2017
Mujtahida:

So you read only the first paragraph of what I wrote but you didn't read this part





It didn't make any sense that's why I didn't pay attention to it .

You claimed that the 'bible God' only speaks through pastors and written text and I responded by telling you God speaks to anyone .

You went ahead to say that you don't believe it and that 'He is powerful fiction' - how does this belief dispute what I said ? Whatever you believe about the 'bible God' is your opinion , it does not make it true . 'I don't believe it , therefore it is false ' is an appeal to personal incredulity

Everyone has is own God is also false and irrational claim because there are facts that this not the case ,

It's obvious you are just making statements that seem pleasant to you even if they are ridiculous.

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by dalaman: 10:27am On Dec 21, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Let me first ignore your cherry-picking and ask you these questions. Your emptiness will finally be exposed for all to see

1. Define evil

2. What evil did God do in Jeremiah 42 : 10

*holds laugh

1. evil
ˈiːv(ə)l,ˈiːvɪl/
adjective
1.
profoundly immoral and wicked

2. Jeremiah 42:10 is a verse that has Yahweh repenting about the evil he commited. It didn't state the evil he did, it just has him repenting of an evil he had already done that wasn't stated in the verse.
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 10:30am On Dec 21, 2017
dalaman:


Christians crate the God they want to follow and worship it using what ever translation of the bible they want. Some verses are translated so differently that they carry contradictory messages and meanings. I
What? Two Atheists/God HATERS discussing HOLY Scriptures as if they know what it really is.

Lol. Damn loud !!!!! Ops falling of my Chair, stomach cramping laughter, help me please.

Jaw aching laughter..... please stop Dalaman and Co.
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 10:35am On Dec 21, 2017
Mujtahida:

Stop wasting your time and energy. The criteria for the debate is as absurdly unprecedented if not inane as it can ever be in the annals. Nemo judex in causa sua (which is a maxim of law) meaning you cannot be a judge in your own case.

It's non-sensical to propose a debate on such criteria.
Oh yes you can be a judge in your own case as witnessed by the actions of many Low-level unregistered Atheists here.
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 10:38am On Dec 21, 2017
LadyMarionette:



Okay. Happy 25th of December to you.
And The same to you. Thank you!
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 10:40am On Dec 21, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Let me first ignore your cherry-picking and ask you these questions. Your emptiness will finally be exposed for all to see

1. Define evil

2. What evil did God do in Jeremiah 42 : 10

*holds laugh
This is interesting.
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 10:52am On Dec 21, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Lol . my brother . Relax and enjoy . You are about this see why butterflyl1on makes fun of dalaman.

I hope cold drink dey with you
Thanks. You most welcome Sir.

I truly admire your dignity in all this insanity. Remember, don't change your rules in the Op. It is brilliant and fair. There will be many attempts to con you out of that prize money and your incredible challenge that is a gift to sane humanity.
SALUTE !!

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:54am On Dec 21, 2017
dalaman:


1. evil
ˈiːv(ə)l,ˈiːvɪl/
adjective
1.
profoundly immoral and wicked

2. Jeremiah 42:10 is a verse that has Yahweh repenting about the evil he commited. It didn't state the evil he did, it just has him repenting of an evil he had already done that wasn't stated in the verse.


Here are the commentaries by bible scholars on that particular verse and tell me how you make any sense by accusing God of committing evil . Who should I pay attention to ? Dalaman or different bible scholars who actually had the same interpretation of the text

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:56am On Dec 21, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Thanks. You most welcome Sir.

I truly admire your dignity in all this insanity. Remember, don't change your rules in the Op. It is brilliant and fair. There will be many attempts to con you out of that prize money and your incredible challenge that is a gift to sane humanity.
SALUTE !!

Thank you my brother . God bless you . I hope you are having a good Christmas . I'm sure the foolishness displayed by the atheists on this thread adds to the thrill of the festive season . wink

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by sonofthunder: 11:06am On Dec 21, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Thank you very much



I'm the judge . This is why atheists who are questioning my ability to reason are not actually smart themselves : Since I lack the ability to reason , then construct an argument that is above my purview and you win the money easily because I lack the intellectual ability to refute it .

But una no get sense na ... so I dey look una
chai...

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 11:08am On Dec 21, 2017
JackBizzle:


Cc kingebukasblog,

Can you see why your thread is dumb?
Mujta's example was to trap and confuse someone, and now I see it is you.

The rules in the op is way beyond fair under the circumstances. Many are planning to con the esteemed Nairalander Kingebukasblog out of that prize money. I am sure you are cognizant of that crucial fact hey. Hmmmm.

We all know that the modern prophet of Atheism Richard Dawkins loves money more than truth, Why has he not taken up the challenge win or lose? This alleged Satanist is watching from a distance in fear. He has observed the mental chaos among his followers and recognized the same mental deficiencies in himself. He must be mumbling to himself, "THE END IS NEAR"

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by sonofthunder: 11:16am On Dec 21, 2017
dalaman:


1. evil
ˈiːv(ə)l,ˈiːvɪl/
adjective
1.
profoundly immoral and wicked

2. Jeremiah 42:10 is a verse that has Yahweh repenting about the evil he commited. It didn't state the evil he did, it just has him repenting of an evil he had already done that wasn't stated in the verse.

stop killing yourself sir... you don't seem to fully understand that verse.

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by sonofthunder: 11:17am On Dec 21, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Thanks. You most welcome Sir.

I truly admire your dignity in all this insanity. Remember, don't change your rules in the Op. It is brilliant and fair. There will be many attempts to con you out of that prize money and your incredible challenge that is a gift to sane humanity.
SALUTE !!
This guy na 'shadow' atheist slayer... killing them softly.

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 11:18am On Dec 21, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Thank you my brother . God bless you . I hope you are having a good Christmas . I'm sure the foolishness displayed by the atheists on this thread adds to the thrill of the festive season . wink
Thanks for your kindness. Much appreciated Sir. The festive season is looking very promising. Thanks to the unselfish efforts of men like you.

On a light note, what is the worst thing that an Atheist can say to a person ?

A: I will be your neighbor !!!!

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by sonofthunder: 11:19am On Dec 21, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Mujta's example was to trap and confuse someone, and now I see it is you.

The rules in the op is way beyond fair under the circumstances. Many are planning to con the esteemed Nairalander Kingebukasblog out of that prize money. I am sure you are cognizant of that crucial fact hey. Hmmmm.

We all know that the modern prophet of Atheism Richard Dawkins loves money more than truth, Why has he not taken up the challenge win or lose? This regard is watching from a distance in fear. He has observed the mental chaos among his followers and recognized the same mental deficiencies in himself. He must be mumbling to himself, "THE END IS NEAR"

Lol

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by dalaman: 11:30am On Dec 21, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Here are the commentaries by bible scholars on that particular verse and tell me how you make any sense by accusing God of committing evil . Who should I pay attention to ? Dalaman or different bible scholars who actually had the same interpretation of the text

All these explanations are just ridiculous apologist drivels. A passage says I repent me of the evil I've done unto you while the apologist is saying it means I am satisfied with the punishment your nation has undergone, the other apologist is saying it means he has compassion over them and will change his ways and course of providence over them.

Even the apologist are all over themselves and can not even provide a single and united interpretation. All of them are just interpreting it differently.

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 11:40am On Dec 21, 2017
sonofthunder:

This guy na 'shadow' atheist slayer... killing them softly.
Na not true o o. Ask yourself why are Low-level unregistered Atheists not focusing on strategies to take up this amazing challenge?

Even the prophet of modern Atheism Richard Dawkins and his side-kick Harris are distancing themselves from their followers, well that's if they are prepared to lose all the tithes/fees.

What do you think? Will these prophets of doom dump these followers
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:46am On Dec 21, 2017
dalaman:


All these explanations are just ridiculous apologist drivels. A passage says I repent me of the evil I've done unto you while the apologist is saying it means I am satisfied with the punishment your nation has undergone, the other apologist is saying it means he has compassion over them and will change his ways and course of providence over them.

Even the apologist are all over themselves and can not even provide a single and united interpretation. All of them are just interpreting it differently.

Ogbeni, state the evil that was commited and what makes it evil or keep quiet grin

You are the only one claiming God committed evil yet you don't know the evil that was commited and what makes it evil

you are hopelessly shameless grin

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Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 11:48am On Dec 21, 2017
sonofthunder:

Lol
With All due respect, I can't help thinking that the failed prophet of modern Atheism Richard Dawkins and his side-kick Harris are lodged on and studying the confusion and fear among their followers here.

I am sure that Richard Dawkins looked at Harris and said, "THE END IS NEAR."
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 11:54am On Dec 21, 2017
sonofthunder:

stop killing yourself sir... you don't seem to fully understand that verse.
Your observation of Dalamans mind is very profound. Many have toiled hard and long to help him understand the true nature of spiritual scriptures, but he insists on approaching it as a secular subject.

He is keeping this class back.
Re: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by butterflyl1on: 12:02pm On Dec 21, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


You finangled 5000 naira from an innocent couple earlier this year and can't get free 80k . smh

WTF

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