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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by Cooly100: 6:11pm On Dec 31, 2017
Alariiwo:


Abeg carry your wahala commot my side jare.. I have no time for noisemakers.

The laws that will send you lots back home eventually have been passed in Lagos.

It's not you people's fault if not that Asiwere of Lagos calling himself Asiwaju. Who born igbo

Yawn!!!!

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by Alariiwo: 6:12pm On Dec 31, 2017
EzeNri:

The worst disease is ignorance and illiteracy combined.

Check the LGA election again. If you fail to see any Igbo man. I'll deactivate this account.

Odua states my foot. We are all Nigerian.

It's either you're locked in your enclave there or you're on exile in Kano.

Lagos govt. swore in only Yorubas, just 2 Igbos and they were asked to go back to their village.

We all saw their threads on Nairaland to rant but nothing can be done. The decision by Yorubas in Yorubaland is final.

Just wait and see what will befall you people in 2019.. We see you as biafrans not Nigerians.

Go to your biafra and leave SW alone.

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by Cooly100: 6:12pm On Dec 31, 2017
stanluiz:
I love the way you hit the afonjas with critical questions.But while is SW cities backward like those in togo, Porto novo etc

They have been running away from that simple question...slippery like the eel...

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by EzeNri(m): 6:13pm On Dec 31, 2017
Alariiwo:


Abeg carry your wahala commot my side jare.. I have no time for noisemakers.

The laws that will send you lots back home eventually have been passed in Lagos.

It's not you people's fault if not that Asiwere of Lagos calling himself Asiwaju. Who born igbo
Laws? Lol.

Igbos are people you can't threaten. When the Arewa youth started their madness, their entire Governors came to the East. It was even the Northerners that were leaving the East not Igbos in the North. To the extent of selling a mosque in Aba.

When Akiolu started his own madness. We all know how it ended.

When Yoruba yoots started theirs, IPOB defied them and held a rally in Lagos.

When GTB started their own madness, you saw how Ndi Igbo responded.

You people have been calling for a genocide. Please start it in Oshodi.

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by totit: 6:13pm On Dec 31, 2017
EzeNri:
I am still enjoying my Christmas in Owerri, so I don't have time for long edited article.

South West of Nigeria, though not the largest population according to official Nigerian statistics has the largest sophisticated population.

The SW through their liberal nature, access to the sea, colonial history of Lagos and former FCT status of Lagos have been able to build the largest sophistication any region in Nigeria or even West African City can currently boast of. This sophistication makes the SW the best destination for economic activities in Nigeria and the best place to invest.

The sophistication of Lagos is driving the sophistication of South West Consumer market which in turn is driving development throughout the entire region. This sophistication is a population based one. Unfortunately, population based sophistication are not sustainable if there are not adequate infrastructures to match the growing population. This negligence made Ibadan to lose its glory as the once most sophisticated city in Nigeria.

Investors launch products based on the size of the consumer market. Population size reflects the size of the consumer market. For instance, if the population of Nigeria is 190 million, then the size of our market is 190 million.

South West population is sophisticated in the sense that it has the largest mix of Nigerians and Non Nigerians living and working together; have access to the largest logistics facilities the country can boast of, all thanks to the FG and scores very high in infrastructural development according to Nigerian standard, boast of a literate population and a population with a highly developed human capital, the highest in the country.

This means that Investors will always prefer Lagos as a launch base, because any product that sells in Lagos will sell in other region.

Whether we like it or not, every single soul that enters SW will increase this sophistication. This means an increased revenue for the government, more opportunities for investors, hence more employment and then greater strain on available infrastructures, hence more debt for the government. Higher debt means lower standard of living is there is no sound debt servicing approach.

This is the reason why SW have the largest debt profile in the country, while SE, the second most sophisticated region have the lowest debt. According to Anambra State Government official record, Anambra alone attracted from 2013 an investment of over 7.2 billion USD, that is about 2.592 trillion NGN. Though official data are yet to start capturing the effects of those investment, because capital investments yield long term benefits.
https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2017/04/13/fdi-inflow-anambra-hits-7-2bn-3-years-ansippa-boss/

Anambra became a 1 Trillion economy in 2011, growing by 40%, just between 2009 and 2011. Even when the clear economic policies of Governor Peter obi are yet to take full effect.
www.thenationonlineng.net/anambra-gdp-has-grown-by-40-per-cent-says-minister/

This shows that SE sophistication is not heavily dependent on population or driven by any external driver, but a product of resilient spirit resident in the people.

Most of the investments in the SE are indigenous private investments. What the SE tend to achieve by shutting its borders is what I don't understand.
Maybe they want to retain the benefits from those investments within the region since most of them are indigenously held. But as long as they continue shutting their borders, the SW will always dominate economically, at least in the size of economic activities, since Human poverty Index of the two regions falls within common ratio, and the relative poverty within the SE is lower than of the SW, using the UN data. Meaning poverty is less spread in the East than the West.

What is even more surprising is that they achieved this status after coming out from a heavily fought war. This is pure resilience. No wonder, Enugu former capital of Biafra, the first city to fall during the war was named among top 100 most resilient cities in the world alongside Barcelona of Spain. Meaning Enugu can now provide model for other cities pursuing global resilience.

While we appreciate the sophistication of the South West, there are problems attendant with a population driven sophistication.

Loss of political sophistication tops this list. Too much influx of non indigenes into the West is leading to a gradual waning of political relevance of the Indigenes.

For instance Presidential election data in 2015 shows that the Indigenes (Yorubas) overwhelmingly favoured the election of President Buhari, while Non-indigenes overwhelmingly supported the re-election of Former President Jonathan in the South West.

At the end of the election, the 'Indigenes' voting 2433193 and 'Non-Indigenes' voting 1851416 were able to make President Buhari win the region with 581777 votes out of a possible 4284609, contributing 57% of the total votes.

With this we can safely assume that the ratio of Indigenes to Non-indigenes should lie roughly within 60:40, if adjusted for the Yorubas in the 'Non Indigenes' that voted against Buhari but without adjusting for the non Yorubas in the 'Indigenes' that voted for Buhari.

581777 victory margin for a region that boasts of the second highest population in the country, if not even the highest, amounts to political irrelevance. This is because Anambra, voting 660762 for Jonathan rendered the 581777 margin of victory SW gave to Buhari, even giving 78985 advantage to PDP.

A further look at the data shows that SW APC heavily backed by the Indigenes contributed only 15.8% of APC total votes of about 15 million, leaving the North alone to contribute 80.2%, while SE/SS the other 4%.

16% is 1/6 and this amounts to political irrelevance. According to Ambode, Lagos State Governor, about 753360 non Indigenes enter Lagos annually. If just this number enters Lagos alone, I wonder the number that enters the entire SW annually.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/02/86-migrants-enter-lagos-every-hour-ambode/

If this trend continues, South West sophistication will one day make them the first region to elect a non Indigene as Governor. Just as they are the first region to elect a non Indigene as a Federal Member representing their Constituency.

Yoruba culture and religion are subject to external influence. This is another danger of pursuing a population driven sophistication.

For instance, South West is the only region where the two major religions are estimated to lie at 50-50, while South East have the lowest mix followed by South South.

The dominance of the two major religion in the South West will pose destructive effect on one of the most celebrated culture in West Africa. This is because no culture will strive in an environment where two opposing foreign religions hold sway. Especially for Africans perpetually plagued by low self esteems.

This is already getting longer than I anticipated. I don't know the clandestine regional objectives of the Ndi Yoruba, but as an Igbo man, fully aware of the type of politics we play here, I won't want my beautiful South East to be in the position the SW found themselves to be today.

Anyway, I am proud of the South West. We can't take it away from them. Like them or hate them. They have the most sophisticated Consumer Market in... I don't want to be arrogant by saying African, West Africa is better. But they are sacrificing too much on the altar of that sophistication.

Note: Consumer Market sophistication and political sophistication are two different things.

On personal and cultural sophistication (Measure of refinement - displaying good taste, wisdom, elegance, fashion and subtlety rather than crudeness, stupidity and vulgarity), a Yoruba man is not more sophisticated than an Igbo man and vice versa.

Tribalists please keep off.

#SouthEastFacts

grin

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by stanluiz(m): 6:14pm On Dec 31, 2017
TheHistorian:

You must be cognitively handicapped.

I want Nigeria to remain as one,but everyone should bear the grunt - failure or success of their tribe.We don't want cases of immigrants competing with our locals in our own land for resources.

Enough is Enough. . .
Shut up my friend this is one Nigeria and every Nigerian has the right of movement and migrate and settle in any part of Nigeria.If you guys are tired of one Nigeria go and declared oduduwa republic and break the country simple!!!

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by shukuokukobambi: 6:14pm On Dec 31, 2017
MrMaestro:
bro, sorry to burst your delusions, but all of the priciest real estate are already owned by either Yoruba politicians, Yoruba traditional rulers, or Yoruba elite. Don't even argue with me because I know all of the priciest real estate areas in Lagos and they're dominated by Yorubas.

Why are you bothering to correct him? Let him keep claiming it. I'm even surprised he hasn't claimed they own 90% of Lagos like some of his more brainwashed dolts claim cheesy

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by Cooly100: 6:15pm On Dec 31, 2017
shukuokukobambi:


You're hopeless.

You and all your fellow deluded goons claim Lagos is successful because it was a former capital. You should explain why Porto Novo that is still a capital isn't in the league of Lagos!!

Simple...

They don't have people like the Igbo, the Ijaws, the Hausas, etc...

Without these people...and leaving the Yorubas with Lagos it would have been another Ibadan....

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by Alariiwo: 6:15pm On Dec 31, 2017
EzeNri:

Laws? Lol.

Igbos are people you can't threaten. When the Arewa youth started their madness, their entire Governors came to the East. It was even the Northerners that were leaving the East not Igbos in the North. To the extent of selling a mosque in Aba.

When Akiolu started his own madness. We all know how it ended.

When Yoruba yoots started theirs, IPOB defied them and held a rally in Lagos.

When GTB started their own madness, you saw how Ndi Igbo responded.

You people have been calling for a genocide. Please start it in Oshodi.

Nairalanders see lie abeg..

Why do you Ipobians like lying like this? What do you gain from your lies

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by stanluiz(m): 6:15pm On Dec 31, 2017
totit:

grin
totit has arrived keep shouting ipob like a castrated dog.

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by TheHistorian(m): 6:16pm On Dec 31, 2017
Cooly100:


Some of us are Igbos from SS.

We will also start to shut the doors of opportunities to your people in SS...especially the oil industry..
Look at this one. .

Instead of your leaders to resist the tyranny of the North,they were treacherously backstabbing one another.

You are Igbos and you are a SouthSoutherner. .Hope you are aware your opinion counts less as the real owners of oil will direct you to your ancestors once you sneeze louder than the room's curtains. grin

The least thing the SouthSoutherners ever wished for is another years of dominance by you shameless iqbos.

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by MrMaestro: 6:16pm On Dec 31, 2017
horsepower101:


Good for you. But that doesn't negate the fact that igbos have acquired so much in real estate in Lagos just like el rufai, confirmed with Abuja. Eko atlantic is loading...
Lol ok man. And Yorubas have acquired significant real estate in London. Does that mean Yoruba people will benefit from this more than the English that have created a country beneficial for their offspring, which drastically outnumbers our own offspring in that country? Of course not, that's why we don't mention it. It doesn't benefit our people as a group in the slightest. You can draw the parallels with Lagos/ the rest of Yorubaland and how it relates to the igbos yourself.

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by EzeNri(m): 6:16pm On Dec 31, 2017
Alariiwo:


It's either you're locked in your enclave there or you're on exile in Kano.

Lagos govt. swore in only Yorubas, just 2 Igbos and they were asked to go back to their village.

We all saw their threads on Nairaland to rant but nothing can be done. The decision by Yorubas in Yorubaland is final.

Just wait and see what will befall you people in 2019.. We see you as biafrans not Nigerians.

Go to your biafra and leave SW alone.
Keep lying to yourself.

Anyway, 2019, we shall elect a Senator.

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by horsepower101: 6:16pm On Dec 31, 2017
stanluiz:
Shut up my friend this is one Nigeria and every Nigerian has the right of movement and migrate and settle in any part of Nigeria.If you guys are tired of one Nigeria go and declared oduduwa republic and break the country simple!!!

Gbam!!!

These fools want to eat their cake and have it. One Nigeria. EKo Atlantic loading.....
Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by totit: 6:17pm On Dec 31, 2017
stanluiz:
totit has arrived keep shouting ipob like a castrated dog.

undecided undecided undecided undecided
Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by horsepower101: 6:18pm On Dec 31, 2017
MrMaestro:

Lol ok man. And Yorubas have acquired significant real estate in London. Does that mean Yoruba people will benefit from this more than the English that have created a country beneficial for their offspring, which drastically outnumbers our own offspring in that country? Of course not, that's why we don't mention it. It doesn't benefit our people as a group in the slightest. You can draw the parallels with Lagos/ the rest of Yorubaland and how it relates to the igbos yourself.

Declare oduduwa republic naa. Then I will take you serious because at this point, you are just ranting.

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by Cooly100: 6:18pm On Dec 31, 2017
TheHistorian:

Look at this one. .

Instead of your leaders to resist the tyranny of the North,they were treacherously backstabbing one another.

You are Igbos and you are a SouthSoutherner. .Hope you are aware your opinion counts less as the real owners of oil will direct you to your ancestors once you sneeze louder than the room's curtains. grin

The least thing the SouthSoutherners ever wished for is another years of dominance by you shameless iqbos.

...but you were asked to leave the SS, when you supported your eternal masters in north..for the Oct 1 movement...

Don't you see that your divide and rule has come to an END!

You have no shame...

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by TheHistorian(m): 6:18pm On Dec 31, 2017
stanluiz:
Shut up my friend this is one Nigeria and every Nigerian has the right of movement and migrate and settle in any part of Nigeria.If you guys are tired of one Nigeria go and declared oduduwa republic and break the country simple!!!
Don't worry. . .There is a subtle and systemic way of tackling your excesses.

Watch your back.

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by stanluiz(m): 6:18pm On Dec 31, 2017
Cooly100:


Simple...

They don't have people like the Igbo, the Ijaws, the Hausas, etc...

Without these people...and leaving the Yorubas with Lagos it would have been another Ibadan....
Lagos was developed by FG,money gotten from Niger delta oil and hardworking of every Nigerians.
Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by EzeNri(m): 6:19pm On Dec 31, 2017
Cooly100:


Simple...

They don't have people like the Igbo, the Ijaws, the Hausas, etc...

Without these people...and leaving the Yorubas with Lagos it would have been another Ibadan....
Good observation.
Why didn't they develop Ibadan to Lagos standard. A city that had already attained some level of sophistication.

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by horsepower101: 6:19pm On Dec 31, 2017
Cooly100:


Simple...

They don't have people like the Igbo, the Ijaws, the Hausas, etc...

Without these people...and leaving the Yorubas with Lagos it would have been another Ibadan....

Facts....

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by Alariiwo: 6:20pm On Dec 31, 2017
EzeNri:

Keep lying to yourself.

Anyway, 2019, we shall elect a Senator.

Who's stopping you?

Elect it first na, let's see. Trust me, I'll denounce my tribe

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by stanluiz(m): 6:21pm On Dec 31, 2017
TheHistorian:

Don't worry. . .There is a subtle and systemic way of tackling your excesses.

Watch your back.
If you are tired of one Nigeria your fathers fought for from 1967 to 1970 then declare your odua repulic and stop ranting like a coward on nairaland.

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by totit: 6:21pm On Dec 31, 2017
First and foremost, voters registration and/or the number of voters can not be use as a yardstick for percentage of population of a country or region.

Why? Because :

• Less than 70% are active voters and/or none voters card holder.

• The estimation of voters or card holder is less than none in each and every region.
cool

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by shukuokukobambi: 6:22pm On Dec 31, 2017
EzeNri:

Laws? Lol.

Igbos are people you can't threaten. When the Arewa youth started their madness, their entire Governors came to the East. It was even the Northerners that were leaving the East not Igbos in the North. To the extent of selling a mosque in Aba.


See how it ended. Your elders denied the SE and started claiming northern igbo with cap in hand

Then Akiolu started his own madness. We all know how it ended.


How did it end? Other than your elders laughing and concuring with him?

hen Yoruba yoots started theirs, IPOB defied them and held a rally in Lagos.


When did kanu come to. Lagos for a rally? Any links?

When GTB started their own madness, you saw how Ndi Igbo responded.


How did it end? Has the crooked debtor being forgiven his debt?

you people have been calling for a genocide. Please start it in Oshodi.

Oshodi where your 2 by 2 shops have all been demolished? Yoruba won't do genocide. We're not fulani. Pls keep running from Your barren land to SW. We'll welcome you

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by horsepower101: 6:22pm On Dec 31, 2017
Alariiwo:


Who's stopping you?

Elect it first na, let's see. Trust me, I'll denounce my tribe

You better not abandon your handle. Because it will happen. I have saved your quote. 2019 is coming soon.
Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by EzeNri(m): 6:23pm On Dec 31, 2017
TheHistorian:

Look at this one. .

Instead of your leaders to resist the tyranny of the North,they were treacherously backstabbing one another.

You are Igbos and you are a SouthSoutherner. .Hope you are aware your opinion counts less as the real owners of oil will direct you to your ancestors once you sneeze louder than the room's curtains. grin

The least thing the SouthSoutherners ever wished for is another years of dominance by you shameless iqbos.
On three occasions, the SS had shown solidarity with the East:
1. Avengers, when Nnamdi Kanu was in Prison.
2. Sacking the Yorubas and Hausa as a result of the Oct 1 Arewa madness.
3. In the Senate in support of the SE development commission.

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by stanluiz(m): 6:25pm On Dec 31, 2017
Alariiwo:

Who's stopping you?
Elect it first na, let's see. Trust me, I'll denounce my tribe
E go do you like film .

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by shukuokukobambi: 6:26pm On Dec 31, 2017
Cooly100:


Simple...

They don't have people like the Igbo, the Ijaws, the Hausas, etc...

Without these people...and leaving the Yorubas with Lagos it would have been another Ibadan....

What's stopping any city in the SE from attaining such standards? Are there no hausa, Yorubas or ijaw there?

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Re: The Sophistication Of South West Population. by stanluiz(m): 6:27pm On Dec 31, 2017
EzeNri:

On three occasions, the SS had shown solidarity with the East:
1. Avengers, when Nnamdi Kanu was in Prison.
2. Sacking the Yorubas and Hausa as a result of the Oct 1 Arewa madness.
3. In the Senate in support of the SE development commission.
SE and SS now see them selves as brothers.Divide and rule tactics is over the old eastern region is now united.

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