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Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by hopefulLandlord: 8:40am On Jan 05, 2018 |
sparko1:@1.angels didn't have choices? @2 My mum and dad are less than 6ft tall while I'm 6ft4 BTW you haven't answered my question, how does an omniscient, omnipotent creator give options? I didn't ask why, I asked how is it possible to give options |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by hopefulLandlord: 8:44am On Jan 05, 2018 |
Mariinee:when you make sweeping statements like this you need to back it up and not just end it right there otherwise its meaningless 1 Like |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by hanassholesolo: 8:54am On Jan 05, 2018 |
Realitycheck007: Oh please, don't act like you understand The Holy Trinity. No one understands the Holy Trinity. Do you know Wave-Particle Duality? How light exist in 2 states at every given time? can you clearly say you understand that paradox? If No, then imagine a Trinity ...oh wait you can't. There are somethings you just cannot understand and if anything, Quantum Mechanics has also proven that. 1 Like |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 9:13am On Jan 05, 2018 |
SIINXU:LOL, funny. If I say he was sent down, does it literally mean he descended with the book? Smh. I don't know where you get your stories from but let's just end it here. I have a busy weekend cum week ahead. Keep reveling in whatever you believe in. And I don't think being agnostic is cool. Don't try to form smart by twisting my words. I said you think it is cool, doesn't mean I think it's cool. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 9:36am On Jan 05, 2018 |
Realitycheck007:the problem is... "Christians" have missed interpreted the Bible in many ways... This is just one among the many... I wonder how people believe in the word Trinity, when.. 1. U can't find it in the Bible 2. Jesus himself said that he has a father ( u n ur papa na equal?) 3. God himself said Jesus is his begotten son ( just imagine, tomorrow someone will tell u that ur son is equal to u) 4. That God don't have a beginning but Jesus has. Infact the list is on... After I have carefully studied the Bible I found out that the "Christians" lack proper understanding of the Bible... Their pastors are after money nothing else... I don't know if I'm to day I'm a Christian because I may be seen among those that lack a proper understanding of the Bible... I have a Bible and I have a proper understanding of it different from what ur Yahoo boys and men(pastors) preach. 1 Like |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by hopefulLandlord: 9:40am On Jan 05, 2018 |
Suprnov3r:Christians use words without even knowing what they mean Dan Barker (former preacher turned atheist) often points out that a perfectly just and perfectly merciful God cannot exist, because any extension of mercy necessitates a suspension of justice. Actually you were told by "Christians" that someone said you evolved from monkeys; those Christians misrepresented what that "someone" said and you didn't even bother to find out the truth for yourself |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by hopefulLandlord: 9:54am On Jan 05, 2018 |
Doctormarrvin: Yahweh does not exist, that is a fact! |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 10:19am On Jan 05, 2018 |
Realitycheck007:You made me LAUGH so hard. Can't remember the last time i laughed like this because of the TRUTH you have spoken. "...MY FELLOW BRETHEN WHICH WAY ARE WE EVEN GOING? WE ARE JUST DOING FOLLOW FOLLOW" My dear brother it is a very THOUGHT PROVOKING question you have asked. Of which the best you can EVER, EVER get as long as it is to COUNTER that ILLUSTRATION are EXPLANATIONS that are in CONFLICT with its own self, a continous running ROUND and ROUND in CIRCLES till all options are exhausted yet WITHOUT an answer to the question that you have asked SIMPLY because Chritainity runs on a CONTRADICTORY system. THAT IS THE TRUTH, IF TRUTH IS WHAT YOU SEEK. "Wisdom is found only in TRUTH *** I have studied deeply into so many systems that powers our vortex. Without doubt all you will ever get as answers to your thought provoking question are answers NOT CONSISTENT with the ARTICLES OF FAITH in Christianity and FAULTY ANALOGIES. In the end its all MYSTIFIED. An example of how this illustration is INCONSISTENT with the articles of faith in Christianity is so plain about the teachings received in sunday schools that GOD CANNOT DIE which is an article of faith that GOD IS IMMORTAL, CANT BE CONQUERED BY DEATH. So who died for our sins? God or Man or God-Man or Man-God? |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by SIINXU: 11:34am On Jan 05, 2018 |
Mariinee: I don't "think it's cool". Why would I wanna seem "cool" to people I may never meet? You think I care what nairalanders think?? If I did, I won't be here today. Anyway, there's a video I would love to show you but I don't know how to get it across. It's a very simple illustration on how mind control works and how effective it is. I wish you would dare to ask questions and be courageous enough to accept the answers when they come. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by missyQween(f): 11:40am On Jan 05, 2018 |
RoyalBlak007: Lol.I don't really do religious argument especially here on NL I prefer Face to face.Lol 1 Like |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 11:54am On Jan 05, 2018 |
WORDWORLD:Jesus is not God |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 11:54am On Jan 05, 2018 |
SIINXU:LOL. Keep wishing. I have no questions, I am very clear on my religion. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 11:54am On Jan 05, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord: You have not in any way countered the points I raised. Dropping someone's opinion does not count as a rebuttal. Mercy and justice are two mutually exclusive positions on a particular issue. If a man is merciful to one crime doesn't mean he cannot apply justice on another crime on the same person. Barker can be anything he wants. Logic and my faith perfectly agrees Whatever your theories you believe about the origin of humanity, and trust me i have read a lot of them. My conclusion is that it takes more faith to believe them than believe that A God created man. Your choice your business 1 Like |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 12:09pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
BadLuckonmyGame:My comment is with respect to the Illustration. If Jesus is not God who then is he. If you say Son of God. Can he then be God's son without being a GOD himself? |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 12:12pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
WORDWORLD:if u are the son of ur father, can u also be ur father? We have just one God.. Jesus is not God |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 12:17pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
BadLuckonmyGame: If you are the son of ur father and he is a human being. I expect you his son too to be a human being like your father. So if Jesus is the son of God he should as well be a God too only that he is a son and not the father. Are you starting to see how christianity runs on a CONTRADICTORY system? |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by hadow(m): 12:24pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
Realitycheck007: For the last time the three of them are one the father the word and the spirit when Jesus was on earth he prayed to the father and not to God because hr is part of God. Jesus is the word from God and the bible says the word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us . PS how is this supposed to shake my belief |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by hadow(m): 12:27pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
Blackhawk03: that is the problem but only men of God who don't have unction will say that |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by naomishmuel(f): 12:29pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
Lol... Christains and their believes
some times, I see them as confused people 1 Like |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Doctormarrvin: 12:30pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
hopefulLandlord:lol bro..i'm not going to try and convince you in anyway! You've chosen to deny his existence and I've chosen to accept it.. That doesn't make us enemies does it? I'd like to know the creation theory you believe in 1 Like |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 12:36pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
WORDWORLD:no... U are wrong. I'm d son of my father we are both human being... im not my father.... Jesus is the son of God, they are both spirit... Jesus is not God. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 12:36pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
naomishmuel: My sister, we are all born into CONFUSSION. Of which its our essence of being to seek for the ABSOLUTE TRUTH of our existence. But few are SEEKERS most follow DOGMA uncomfirmed. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by RoyalBlak007: 12:38pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
missyQween: That's why we need to meet privately ASAP |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 12:40pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
BadLuckonmyGame: How is Jesus not a God too if he is the Son of God?! His he not like His father, God? |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Doctormarrvin: 12:44pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
Like how can something so perfect and elaborate like the universe spring out of nothingness? Scientists would come and tell you different theories which y'all will swallow hook,line and sinker! Energy came together,became sentient and formed man.. How many of you understand the entire process of how fetuses form..water and blood suddenly start forming complex organs and an even more complex brain complete with brain cells and synapse capable of thoughts and comprehensions!..if the universe formed by itself then why then did the same universe create life forms? Is the universe sentient? There's a creator somewhere..whether we admit or not |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Nobody: 12:45pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
WORDWORLD:u are like ur father does that make u ur father? |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by U1(m): 12:47pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
Suprnov3r: Word. Keep it up! @OP A lot of things are out there to shake one's faith. I don't think anyone can completely understand the way of God. Some things in this life are mysteries. I don't bother much about them. My belief is that if you are good or considerate towards others you are not very far from God's Kingdom. This matters more to me than being able to explain religions and doctrines. We have many religious people these days. Yet, does it not surprise you when you hear of people killing, maiming, raping or doing all kinds of evil under the guise of religion? Don't bother too much about what you don't understand. It probably benefits you nothing seeking explanations. Such futility is part of what makes some conclude there is no God. Worry more about what's supposed to be the core of any true religion: love of God and care for fellow men. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by richythePH(f): 12:53pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
this whole hullabaloo and confusion started when some overly confused idiots misinterpreted john1:1 and brought up the false misleading belief of "trinity" Jesus, God, and bible prophecy clearly reveals that God and Jesus are different (one is the father who had no begining and the other the son who was the first born creation according to colossians3:15 (or i think 1:15)) i pity the confused myopic and gullible people who accept and adopt the false teachings of the even more confused idiots that invented these evil wrong teachings |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by Doctormarrvin: 1:08pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
What the early scientists did was propose,fight one another, suggest, and assume they were correct when they ran out of suggestions..life started on earth by means of a common ancestor..who is that common ancestor? Some said life started from bacterias..bacterias suddenly felt the need to become sentient and perform complex metabolical feats? Call us sheeps for believing in a creator but ask yourself..the ideas of creation which you jump on.. How well do you think you understand it? |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by missyQween(f): 1:20pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by kaybams1(m): 1:49pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
SIINXU: I don't think you are agnostic. You are a theist, Believing there is a God in itself makes you a theist. It doesn't matter whether you do not accept the religion way of describing him. Agnostics DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING. They cannot accept that there is God cos there is no sufficient evidence to prove He exists. This same paucity of evidence is also the reason they cannot say for certain that he doesn't exist. Atheists BELIEVE there is no God. So there is a difference. People tend to mix it up. Anyway, I am an agnostic. |
Re: Heated Argument, Note: This Could Shake Your Belief (photos) by edimolu(m): 1:52pm On Jan 05, 2018 |
WORDWORLD:i pity you , you dey find wetin u no lost, jesus came to the earth in human flesh and existed not as a God but still called himself God's son! |
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