Gungnir:


Yinmu, are God to know his mind at all times. God can use anyone or thing to achieve his aim.

Daeylar:
The simple reason why is because "God" is a fictitous creature, created by misogynistic men in their book of fairy tales they call the bible, so of course they will give him the same misogynistic values they share.
The end.

Atlantia:

Exactly.
He carefully ignored the roles women played in the scriptures.

I really don't blame him. Most of the active 'players' in the Bible were of the male gender and he feels that women should remain in the background. Apostle Paul's teachings are fodder for his likes.

Misogynistic nitwit! Excuse my French.

stevejomo:

you may be right but there was no female among the twelve apostles

Etuagievin:
. In Christ there is male or female . if Christ didn't consider it wrong he would HV gotten some female apostles. The holy spirit of God worked through those inspired men like Paul and the likes to speak against women teachers. We are using men's philosophy to thwart Gods message and the result will be disastrous

majekdom2:
in Christ there is no female or male. Jesus didn't have female apostles because he was always on the move. You hear him say the son of man has no where to sleep. You hear him say, leave your father, let the dead bury the dead. A woman who is married cannot leave her husband according to tradition that's why he never had female apostles. We saw him relate well with other females that he even had to cry at the death of their brother lazarus. Mary and Martha which means he had a very close relationship with them. Stop twisting the bible. Understand it well.

stevejomo:

you may be right but there was no female among the twelve apostles

Uyi168:
...the scripture is clear..

teamsynergy:


lol... u r excused.... it's really mind blowing that so many xtain radicals are surfacing these days... so if a woman is called by God, she should tell God to try his luck with a man?...

the part where she stated women ain't supposed to teach men got me....

soberdrunk:
Feminists will not like this

Geeklady:

The controversial question of whether or not it’s right for women to pastor churches or co-pastor with their husbands has come up again. This time, in one of my circles. My view has been that God prohibits this practice. So I did another study to be sure if my view aligned with God’s.

What prompted this study was when a prominent, well-loved and respected pastor by me and many others came out and said that he supported the practice of women pastors. After launching his new ministry page on Facebook, it featured him and his wife as pastors of their church.

His announcement, through a public video on Facebook, drew almost 300 comments. Half of which included the pastor and those that agreed with the practice, and the rest that didn’t.

It was that argument with both sides bringing up scriptures to justify their position. In those 300-plus comments, all I saw was a back-and-forth about what the Bible says. But no one talked about the dangers of this practice and the end effect on the human soul. And so, this is the reason behind this article.

First off, I’m not against women teaching other women or children. I do believe women can prophesy, and share the gospel. However, I do believe God prohibits women from leading his flock.

So, I will present to you the real reason why women are not allowed to lead and teach men in the Church, I’ll submit scripture to back it up, and then I’ll talk about the adverse outcome of this disorderly practice.

The real reason

The real reason women aren’t allowed to pastor is not because they’re easily manipulated, or too emotional for the pulpit, no, it’s simply because it’s not in their assigned roles as women.

God assigned roles to men and women from the beginning of creation. He expects those roles to be played out in his church as well—there are no exceptions. When the roles are switched, God is angry, and Satan has an entry point.

Let’s see what the Bible explicitly says (this is the apostle Paul speaking):

Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer [tolerate] not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. (1 Timothy 2:11-14)

Geeklady:
There are 5 points I want to bring out about these passages:

Learn in silence
All subjection
Not to teach
Nor usurp authority over the man
Adam was first formed, then Eve
Learn in silence

It’s commanded that women should learn in silence and it’s mentioned twice. Why is this? Perhaps this passage in first Peter will shed some light on that:

1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement. (1 Peter 3:1-6)

We see in the latter part of verse four that God considers a woman who is meek and quiet (silent) to be precious. This doesn’t mean women can’t ever speak; it just means they should guard against the fallen nature which is loud and proud (Prov 9:13; 7:11).

Silence and meekness are how godly women ought to behave because this is God’s will. So all Paul is doing is repeating God’s will, but this can’t be accomplished if she’s shepherding a church.

All subjection

The next word we find is “subjection;” this means obedience, yielding to another’s admonition or advice. This is the role of the wife concerning her husband. If the man isn’t telling his wife to disobey God, she should be submitting to her husband’s direction in all areas.

We must also remember why women were created: to help the man fulfill the call of God for his life (Gen 2:18-24). After the fall, God said that the husband would rule over his wife (Gen 3:16). This is because Adam initially submitted to his wife’s advice, disobeyed God, and perverted the roles. So God had to re-establish his order again. So how can a woman co-pastor the flock and be in subjection to her husband? She can’t.

Not to teach

Because a woman’s role is to support her husband in all subjection, she can’t fulfill her role as a woman if she’s teaching men at her local church. Teaching men requires authority and leading which isn’t in her role as a woman in relation to men and especially husbands. Instead, she should be learning, and if she has children, teaching them.

Nor usurp authority over the man

Usurp means to take (a position of power or importance) illegally or by force; this may have been what was happening in Timothy’s church back then, and what’s surely happening in many churches today—women taking the authority of men; and by force! As Paul says, this must not be tolerated.

Adam was first formed, then Eve

By stating that Adam was made first and then Eve, Paul was re-establishing order once again. God has set up an order, and it must be followed. It doesn’t matter if a woman has an anointing on her life, or a revelation to start a church, this isn’t her role.

She should be focused on supporting her husband in his duty as pastor. And if she’s not married, to concentrate on learning how to be that meek and quiet spirit God so treasures so she can adequately support that husband God brings her.

The order is: the husband leads, the wife follows and supports. The wife cannot co-pastor the church of God, this is not her role.

Geeklady:


Prophesying and Pastoring are different... check your dictionary.

Geeklady:
You tolerate that woman Jezebel

In the book of Revelation, Jesus addresses several churches, one of which was commended for their love, faith, and patience, but they were tolerating a woman who called herself a prophet, and who was teaching the people to commit fornication (Rev 2:18-24). Jesus refers to her as Jezebel. We know this isn’t the same Jezebel of the Old Testament because she was killed for leading God’s people to rebel against him; this is a spirit of Jezebel.

Now, this is not to say that all women who desire to teach or pastor have a spirit of Jezebel or want to bring the people into sin. I believe that this spirit is always looking to get in and if men and women of God reject the word of God about his creation roles, they will eventually come under this spirit’s control. It doesn’t matter how great the church is doing, if they allow this sin of disorder to go unchecked, Satan will take advantage.

So why can’t women pastor or co-pastor with their husbands? It’s not in their role. What’s the danger? It allows Satan entry to destroy the Church.

© Copyright by Neal Chester, www.letspleasegod.com

Atlantia:

Exactly.
He carefully ignored the roles women played in the scriptures.

I really don't blame him. Most of the active 'players' in the Bible were of the male gender and he feels that women should remain in the background. Apostle Paul's teachings are fodder for his likes.

Misogynistic nitwit! Excuse my French.

Geeklady:


Yes women are given the gift of prophecy as the bible says in Acts 2: 17-18
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 and on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy.
But is there a place it's stated in the bible that a woman taught the scriptures in the bible?

Geeklady:


Prophesying and Pastoring are different... check your dictionary.

Etuagievin:
. In Christ there is male or female . if Christ didn't consider it wrong he would HV gotten some female apostles. The holy spirit of God worked through those inspired men like Paul and the likes to speak against women teachers. We are using men's philosophy to thwart Gods message and the result will be disastrous

stevejomo:

you may be right but there was no female among the twelve apostles

solite3:
false teaching that has peverted this era is alarming. What op wrote is true! You don't bring worldly philosophy into Christ and call it freedom! Man and Woman are equal heir of salvation , yes but both have different roles in the kingdom.
God's order has always been.
God
Christ
Man
Woman

solite3:


Pricilia never pastored any church.

Gungnir:


Sit down there make sokoto dey wear you.

Game don change big time. If I didn't come upon him, I will be saying the same thing you are saying.

Onnasucs1:
you people dinuuh understand the op. No one is stopping women from playing roles in the church. She must perform those roles under a man who is her pastor. She must never be the pastor over men. Because spiritually, a man is not under a woman and a woman is not under Christ. If she pastor a church, it means she's directly under Christ and all men are under her, whic a distortion to the spiritual order according to the passage below.

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.


So you can preach, heal the sick, cast out demons as a woman, but make sure a man is your pastor ooo

zionmde:

they were the same. can God give women the office of prophetess only to forbid them from being pastors. wat of Priscilla who pastored a church located in her house?

Geeklady:
the church was in their house 1 Corinthians 16:9

The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house (1 Cor 16:19). And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly (Acts 18:26).

They used their home for fellowship and not for pastoral work. From the verse quoted, Aquila and Priscilla were helping a man understand the goodnews of God's kingdom. That's not pastoral work. That's what any follower of Christ is meant to do if led by the Spirit of God. We are called to preach the gospel when led to. Preaching and teaching isn't the same thing.

majekdom2:
did Paul pastor any church? Did they have pastors then. Y' all should understand times and reason. It wasn't about pastoring but a woman teaching a man how to lead when she isn't the leader was what Paul talked about.

majekdom2:
God does not have a order in his kingdom. The pharisees asked him, it is in moses' law that a woman be betrothed to her husband brother when she dies and they asked what if a brothers dies marrying her, who will marry her in heaven. Jesus answered there is no such "marriage" in heaven. There is no male or female but God checks the heart!

Iseoluwani:



Paul was never a pastor but a prophet/evangelist/teacher/APOSTLE...


A PASTOR IS MAN THAT IS TO SHEPHERD A CHURCH...HE IS TI STAND there N GIVE THEM SPIRITUAL FOOD, PAUL IS A MISSIONARY TI START A CHURCH N HAND IT OVER


GO N READ HE GAVE GIFTS UNTO MEN MY KENNETH HAGIN

Iseoluwani:


So wrong!!!!

God has order, if not he won't be called d GOD OF ORDER