stallionng:
the op is right,Christ practiced this too,the 12 disciples never had a woman. women can prophesy not pastoring. how can a woman lay hand on a man to anoint him while she may be unclean during her period?
women are not to pastor church.

stallionng:
the op is right,Christ practiced this too,the 12 disciples never had a woman. women can prophesy not pastoring. how can a woman lay hand on a man to anoint him while she may be unclean during her period?
women are not to pastor church.

piagetskinner:
a woman can be a pastor..no big deal in that...


the bone of contention here is even if a woman is the pastor overseer or whatever...she must drop all that when she's in her husbands house..because the husband is still her head..no matter how highly placed she is

our women/sisters always find this hard to swallow...but its the truth

VictorRomanov:


You are highly mistaken. Women followed Jesus around and ministered to him. If he wanted to, He would have made one an apostle or even given clear directions for one to be made much later, but he didn't.

delishpot:


You can't guarantee that it did not happen. You just haven't known about it. Maybe he did but the church decided not to say it.

Obalende:


And what makes the men folk so special? It was said in Leviticus that the unclothedness of each woman belongs to her husband yet today women walk around half naked and get away with it. So that scripture is no longer effective because marriage is no longer as relevant as it once was.

Same goes for male privilege. It was once the case that women should not do watever ober men this was predicated on the assumption that men would be responsible.

But today look at wat men do: 419, looting government funds, kidnapping, murder, one chance, idolatry (treating woman as god).

It's hard for men to swallow and hurts the pride bit today a woman can authority over man in church.

solite3:
inspite of the fact that Saul had sin and God had rejected him, David did not use that as an advantage to usurp his authority even while had the opportunity.
Michael when having a dispute with the devil did not start to rail accusations against him

Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.


You don't go against God because of man or woman, the church is for God and he has total control over her.

Any woman who subject herself to God will enjoy her marriage because God would fight her battles. Through her chaste character coupled with Godly fear she can win her unbelieving husband's heart.

Both men and women are sinners before God.
When a woman is not subject to her husband how can he correct her? Note some women hate to be corrected by a man they see it as oppression.
The whole society has been taken over by sin. Feminism is nothing but a call to reject what God has set down and accept so called freedom or liberation.
Jesus came to reconcile both men and women to God. This world is not our own neither are we the owner of ourselves we must appreciate God for creating we must abide by his rules and not rub it on his face. The enemy is not man or woman or God but the devil who destroyed the relationship God had with man by deceiving eve.

twosquare:
Then they should not even help you sing praises and worship if they are not permitted to speak. Perhaps you should read the whole chapter... Like I said, it still pinpoints spiritual protocol and order of not usurping. Check all the bolded... Paul was rebuking the lack of order in the Corinthians church...women are not to usurp that authority. They have to be given the clearance, especially when it comes to doctrinal issues...some, I perceive, because of their spiritual office don't want to be under obedience...breaking the spiritual order of gender creation... So, Paul said, let them keep shut. It is a shame, let them ask their husbands. These are married folks. If you cannot submit to your husband, you don't have the right to speak in the gathering of the saints. A wife must first be the husband's convert, and whatever she is saying must have been through the teaching of the husband--who is the priest of his household. Paul explained better to Timothy.

Onnasucs1:
nice one...I now understand more.

@ the bolded, are you a deeper lifer?

Obalende:

God had power to birth Son of God anyhow He wanted but chose through woman to show female superiority of men in spiritual matters.

Obalende:

And when a man is not subject to the wife, how can the wife correct him?

Partriarchy is flattering!

This belief that just for being born a man then all power to you.

Uyi168:
..are u dsame person as freecocoa?

Neatboy:



Why do you people always turn the Scripture upside down? Apostle Paul was referring to social classes in this regard and not genders.

Neatboy:

Even in heaven there is orderliness and hierarchies. Administrative works in heaven doesn't clash. All the angels in heaven do not have equal ranks. God had chose to replicate this same orderliness of heaven in earthly families to show us the shadow of the real thing that exist in heaven. So, He chose the man to be the physical, spiritual, social and financial head of the family not the woman. That is why I pity any man whose wife goes to church every Sunday while he stays back watching movie... Don't just be the financial head of the family, be the spiritual head.

freecocoa:
Why would you ask that?

Uyi168:
..I've nt been seeing u around..and u too have almost the same style of writing...actually thought it was alt moniker

Uyi168:
...ur bible was very clear when it said women should remain quiet,shouldnt teach in the church..i think u are d one adding/subtracting 4rm d bible...

stallionng:
the op is right,Christ practiced this too,the 12 disciples never had a woman. women can prophesy not pastoring. how can a woman lay hand on a man to anoint him while she may be unclean during her period or serve communion??
women are not to pastor church.Roman Catholic church practices this,only Rev.Fathers preach and serve Communion

piagetskinner:
a woman can be a pastor..no big deal in that...


the bone of contention here is even if a woman is the pastor overseer or whatever...she must drop all that when she's in her husbands house..because the husband is still her head..no matter how highly placed she is

our women/sisters always find this hard to swallow...but its the truth

twosquare:
Then they should not even help you sing praises and worship if they are not permitted to speak. Perhaps you should read the whole chapter... Like I said, it still pinpoints spiritual protocol and order of not usurping. Check all the bolded... Paul was rebuking the lack of order in the Corinthians church...women are not to usurp that authority. They have to be given the clearance, especially when it comes to doctrinal issues...some, I perceive, because of their spiritual office don't want to be under obedience...breaking the spiritual order of gender creation... So, Paul said, let them keep shut. It is a shame, let them ask their husbands. These are married folks. If you cannot submit to your husband, you don't have the right to speak in the gathering of the saints. A wife must first be the husband's convert, and whatever she is saying must have been through the teaching of the husband--who is the priest of his household. Paul explained better to Timothy.

Ladyhippolyta88:
Stop writing nonsense.

piagetskinner:



the truth is like yoyo bitters..u cannot blame me for your inability to comprehend and accept what I wrote up there

Ladyhippolyta88:
You should also know that it was primitive and misogynistic men that wrote that and not an inspiration from God I would advise that you do your little research and check on the pseudoepigrapha of the bible before coming here to write rubbish.THE TRUTH HURTS DOESN'T IT?

piagetskinner:


that's your bloody problem not mine...I have better things to do..pray that God gives you understanding because its very obvious ure deficient in it.

now run along ..

bloodofthelamb:
It is wrong for a woman to shepherd or pastor a man... The Godhead is our example in this matter.

There is both equality and submissiveness in the eternal Godhead. The Father and the Son are equal in all things but we clearly know that Jesus is submissive to God the Father as the Head.

In the same way man and woman is equal in Christ but there should be loving submissiveness in the part of a woman, for man is her head despite the equality.

Women don't let in the spirit of pride.

ScienceWatch:
Well done Sir, you have said it all. The Word and the Holy Spirit is guiding you into all truth.
Stay strong !

Remember not to let Atheists ask Christians questions, as if the Holy Bible is on trial. Never fall for their sly tactics.
Turn it around and rather ask them more about their own Atheist religion and beliefs in the deity they worship called NO-god. Try not to laugh at the answers they give.