Only weak men cry about feminists. And what is wrong with feminism and what has this subject got to do with feminism? Fact remains that Priscilla was a pastor and you can't do nothing about that other than bash feminists

soberdrunk:
Feminists will not like this

Onnasucs1:
hmmm... I don't even know what to say

You don't need to say anything.

Ladyhippolyta88:
Every sane human being knows that apostle Paul was a misogynist what pains me most is that women are more religious than men when clearly Abrahamic religions don't favour women.

I know right?!

Only a few wise ones can read between the lines and figure it out.

Paul reminds me of today's 'Born-Again' Christians who become 'saved' and suddenly believe that everyone else has got it wrong.
The spirit of 'overdo', so to speak.

It's only confusing to followers of the paedophile

yeyerolling:
The most confused religion is christianity

Atlantia:


I know right?!

Only a few wise ones can read between the lines and figure it out.

Paul reminds me of today's 'Born-Again' Christians who become 'saved' and suddenly believe that everyone else has got it wrong.
The spirit of 'overdo', so to speak.

When I was reading the bible and saw those verses I quickly looked for the history of Paul on the internet primitive men wrote the bible simple and straight.

Jesus Christ himself said there is neither male nor female and yours saying the exact opposite. So you know more than God abi?

Etuagievin:
. In Christ there is male or female . if Christ didn't consider it wrong he would HV gotten some female apostles. The holy spirit of God worked through those inspired men like Paul and the likes to speak against women teachers. We are using men's philosophy to thwart Gods message and the result will be disastrous

Foolish write up..Was Deborah a man? Hiding your woman hate filled body in church. Keep deceiving yourself

Ladyhippolyta88:
You and I know that the bible was written by men and not inspired if not changes would not be recorded so don't deceive yourself apostle Paul was clearly a misogynist.

The bible was not written for any century or generation
Paul was not a misogynist, but he was blunt & outspoken
His point was to further buttress God's plan
He said things about man being alone to serve God properly, which catholics adopted...
Ever wondered why Christ never got married?
These are some of the things paul pointed out, they were too truthful, making them to sound unpleasant to our ears...Saying paul was a misogynist is like saying God is a misogynist...

Don't delude yourself. A prophet is the highest level a follower of Christ can be.

tempest01:


A prophet or prophetess is different from pastor. Though a pastor might also be a prophet or have the gift of prophesy

majekdom2:
God does not have a order in his kingdom. The pharisees asked him, it is in moses' law that a woman be betrothed to her husband brother when she dies and they asked what if a brothers dies marrying her, who will marry her in heaven. Jesus answered there is no such "marriage" in heaven. There is no male or female but God checks the heart!

. It is clear you don't respect God's order.

Pls keep quiet. God had female prophetesses and leaders in the bible. Anyone can misinterpret the bible just as anyone can misinterpret any book.

Daeylar:
The simple reason why is because "God" is a fictitous creature, created by misogynistic men in their book of fairy tales they call the bible, so of course they will give him the same misogynistic values they share.
The end.

Rubbiish:

The bible was not written for any century or generation
Paul was not a misogynist, but he was blunt & outspoken
His point was to further buttress God's plan
He said things about man being alone to serve God properly, which catholics adopted...
Ever wondered why Christ never got married?
These are some of the things paul pointed out, they were too truthful, making them to sound unpleasant to our ears...Saying paul was a misogynist is like saying God is a misogynist...

Who is deceiving you have you heard about the council of Nicea do you know the original text of the bible are Greek,hebrew and aramaic the old testament laws re clearly for the Jews if God inspired a book that supports genocide,slavery,racism,women oppression and so on then you got to be kidding me.

solite3:
may God forgive you who told you words in italics were added?
Hope you know adding to scripture is a sin.
The scripture is not for private interpretations or assumptions.
It was pricilia and acquilia that expanded the word to Apollos. Apollos already knew the word.

Not only timothy and phoebe but peter James and john also.

u re really very religious.
go and do ur research and stop sounding ignorant.
Words in italics were not originally there. secondly wat is the difference between teaching and expounding?

Ladyhippolyta88:
You don't need to say anything.

OK Ma. Shey I can sleep now abi?

Lol, clear on what? Stop adding and subtracting to the bible. Prophethood is the highest call to the service in God's kingdom and they were female prophetesses so your opinion belongs to the garbage.

Uyi168:
...the scripture is clear..

majekdom2:
did Paul pastor any church? Did they have pastors then. Y' all should understand times and reason. It wasn't about pastoring but a woman teaching a man how to lead when she isn't the leader was what Paul talked about.

why will there be leader since you said there is no order? Did Paul say Priscilla was a leader? Where did Paul say women shoul not teach a man? Paul's message was about order in the church.

Omudia11:
Lol, clear on what? Stop adding and subtracting to the bible. Prophethood is the highest call to the service in God's kingdom and they were female prophetesses so your opinion belongs to the garbage.

wrong Apostle is the highest

Ladyhippolyta88:
Who is deceiving you have you heard about the council of Nicea do you know the original text of the bible are Greek,hebrew and aramaic the old testament laws re clearly for the Jews if God inspired a book that supports genocide,slavery,racism,women oppression and so on then you got to be kidding me.

Bible wey contain ten commandments naim u say supports the bold?
Na wa for una ooo
U women can go any length to paint good as evil...na wa ooo

[quote author=Omudia11 post=64404462]Lol, clear on what? Stop adding and subtracting to the bible. Prophethood is the highest call to the service in God's kingdom and they were female prophetesses so your opinion belongs to the garbage.[/quoter] wrong apostle is the highest

ejikemeuwa:
Good one. As it is in the Bible not all these feminism induced preaching of some people of some selfish instruments of the devil. Feminists may not like this

Feminist are not of the devil they are against the misogyny of your bible.

Come upon Who?

Gungnir:


Sit down there make sokoto dey wear you.

Game don change big time. If I didn't come upon him, I will be saying the same thing you are saying.

Onnasucs1:
OK Ma. Shey I can sleep now abi?

If you like.

Geeklady:
There are 5 points I want to bring out about these passages:

Learn in silence
All subjection
Not to teach
Nor usurp authority over the man
Adam was first formed, then Eve
Learn in silence

It’s commanded that women should learn in silence and it’s mentioned twice. Why is this? Perhaps this passage in first Peter will shed some light on that

1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement. (1 Peter 3:1-6)

We see in the latter part of verse four that God considers a woman who is meek and quiet (silent) to be precious. This doesn’t mean women can’t ever speak; it just means they should guard against the fallen nature which is loud and proud (Prov 9:13; 7:11).

Silence and meekness are how godly women ought to behave because this is God’s will. So all Paul is doing is repeating God’s will, but this can’t be accomplished if she’s shepherding a church.

All subjection

The next word we find is “subjection;” this means obedience, yielding to another’s admonition or advice. This is the role of the wife concerning her husband. If the man isn’t telling his wife to disobey God, she should be submitting to her husband’s direction in all areas.

We must also remember why women were created: to help the man fulfill the call of God for his life (Gen 2:18-24). After the fall, God said that the husband would rule over his wife (Gen 3:16). This is because Adam initially submitted to his wife’s advice, disobeyed God, and perverted the roles. So God had to re-establish his order again. So how can a woman co-pastor the flock and be in subjection to her husband? She can’t.

Not to teach

Because a woman’s role is to support her husband in all subjection, she can’t fulfill her role as a woman if she’s teaching men at her local church. Teaching men requires authority and leading which isn’t in her role as a woman in relation to men and especially husbands. Instead, she should be learning, and if she has children, teaching them.

Nor usurp authority over the man

Usurp means to take (a position of power or importance) illegally or by force; this may have been what was happening in Timothy’s church back then, and what’s surely happening in many churches today—women taking the authority of men; and by force! As Paul says, this must not be tolerated.

Adam was first formed, then Eve

By stating that Adam was made first and then Eve, Paul was re-establishing order once again. God has set up an order, and it must be followed. It doesn’t matter if a woman has an anointing on her life, or a revelation to start a church, this isn’t her role.

She should be focused on supporting her husband in his duty as pastor. And if she’s not married, to concentrate on learning how to be that meek and quiet spirit God so treasures so she can adequately support that husband God brings her.

The order is: the husband leads, the wife follows and supports. The wife cannot co-pastor the church of God, this is not her role.

God bless u

Ladyhippolyta88:
if you like.

cun be like say we dey fight before. Chai.

zionmde:

u re really very religious.
go and do ur research and stop sounding ignorant.
Words in italics were not originally there. secondly wat is the difference between teaching and expounding?

present the proof that KJV added words written in italics.

Rubbiish:

Bible wey contain ten commandments naim u say supports the bold?
Na wa for una ooo
U women can go any length to paint good as evil...na wa ooo

Do not convert thy neighbours wife does it not sound like property to you that verse clearly shows how women were viewed.Does the old testament only contain the ten commandments?When the children of Israel fought against their enemies were those not genocide.Seriously read your bible critically because I read mine as well.I am not an atheist or agnostic so don't paint me as one.But I can never believe in a God that supports those things I mentioned.

Onnasucs1:
cun be like say we dey fight before. Chai.

I hate misogynistic men.

Ladyhippolyta88:
When I was reading the bible and saw those verses I quickly looked for the history of Paul on the internet primitive men wrote the bible simple and straight.

2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness..."
Inspired men, my dear... Inspired men.

Goodnight.

Atlantia:


2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness..."
Inspired men, my dear... Inspired men.

Goodnight.

Nor be only inspired good night.

Geeklady, God bless you! Women of this age won't agree with you. I read Sunday Times of London about 2 weeks ago of how women in the West seize every instance of contact to rope men. And, it's happening here now-women calling out men, even at the slightest offence, saying they are raped. The conclusion :women of this age are too self-centred, self-willed. Even the so called Christian women are drifting away from God, upturning God's order. They no longer drop their father's name and, at times, ask stupid questions whether lesbianism is sin.

solite3:
present the proof that KJV added words written in italics.

For u not to know that means u know nothing about theology. U haven't been really exposed to something's behind the scene. The original manuscripts are still there, theologians still compare versions of the bible with it. I pity people like u anyway who are religious enough to tell God whom to use and whom not to use.

solite3:
why will there be leader since you said there is no order? Did Paul say Priscilla was a leader? Where did Paul say women shoul not teach a man? Paul's message was about order in the church.

what is christ's message. Paul is a man like me and you. He is not a mediator, he is not a saviour. We follow jesus's instructions not paul. Paul was only a guideline. The same Paul advised people not to marry with reasons. How many have followed that advice. We should use our common sense now. Haba