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Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by butterflyl1on: 1:22pm On Feb 15, 2018
OkCornel:
Going by the bolded...it's like saying, if suicide bombing isn't natural, suicide bombers should not exist in the first place...

Mehn...so everything or habit that exists is natural, is that what you are saying here? Even scientists and atheists won't agree with you on this ooo
He just shot himself in the foot and destroyed his own arguments. cheesy
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by vaxx: 1:25pm On Feb 15, 2018
tintingz:
I'm not Homosexual,

If Homosexuals is not natural, it shouldn't exist in the first place!
i have been following your thought of reasoning. but this statement in particular flawed your already presented half truth...... before i will correct you. please check out the flaws....''if homosexual is not natural ,it should not exist in the first place'' tintingz
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 1:26pm On Feb 15, 2018
OkCornel:
Point 1-3 is the definition of natural. Homosexuality is not natural.

1) But if you insist it is natural, then please tell us if bestiality is also natural, if your answer is no...what makes homosexuality natural but makes bestiality unnatural?

2) Did nature design a man to sleep with his fellow man?

3) Did nature design the anus to lubricate itself and aid penile penetration? These are the questions I expect you to ask yourself before defining homosexuality as natural

4) In the accordance of nature, have you seen a woman or man conceive and give birth to a child through the anus?
Were you there when nature was designing things?

So nature is now your God. cheesy

The point is Homosexuals find themselves attractive and sexual satisfied, what could cause this? Is sexual satisfaction not part of nature?
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 1:30pm On Feb 15, 2018
vaxx:
i have been following your thought of reasoning. but this statement in particular flawed your already presented half truth...... before i will correct you. please check out the flaws....''if homosexual is not natural ,it should not exist in the first place'' tintingz
Can you tell us why or how Homosexuality came into behavior in some humans and animals?
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman:
Ronpet777:
Very good then. U don't knw, u don't care to, fine. I hv provided myself with conclusions enough to come up with an answer to my curiosity and hv calved out a way to find purpose for my existence. My friend u hv not, rather u WISH and CRAVE and CRY and WAIL and GROAN, just to antagonize mine.
So who is delusional? My friend, seek for truth, seek for ur essence bf u question someone else's.
Try to find out d difference btw u and a common maggot and d need for ur brain and intelligence quotient if u r no better than a common garden lily that fades away at d close of day.
The maggot in your garden has its purpose here on earth. In its quest for survival it satisfies it's purpose. Your claim that life only has meaning when we die is empty and remains a lie. You only believe in ancient mythology and fiction and that is it. It does not give you any insight or and any knowledge to your life. You can not use your so called belief to demonstrate anything to me at all. You can only use it do delude yourself. I was debating a muslim ot long ago and he was saying almost the same thing you are saying now.l Your belief does NOT make you special, and it doesn't grant you anything special that you can demonstrate here. You have and know no truth, you only have and know the mythologies and fictional narratives you've been indoctrinated with, if you do you would have demonstrated it in an objective way. But because you don't all you can do is to cry and keep telling me not to poke holes at your mythical and fictional beliefs.
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 1:35pm On Feb 15, 2018
OkCornel:
Going by the bolded...it's like saying, if suicide bombing isn't natural, suicide bombers should not exist in the first place...

Mehn...so everything or habit that exists is natural, is that what you are saying here? Even scientists and atheists won't agree with you on this ooo
Lol, we know why people indulge in suicide bombing.

Homosexuality we don't know it root!
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by dalaman: 1:36pm On Feb 15, 2018
[quote author=butterflyl1on post=65087322][/quote]Do you have any other lie to tell on behalf of the holy spirit?
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff: 1:37pm On Feb 15, 2018
vaxx:
i have been following your thought of reasoning. but this statement in particular flawed your already presented half truth...... before i will correct you. please check out the flaws....''if homosexual is not natural ,it should not exist in the first place'' tintingz
tintingz:
Can you tell us why or how Homosexuality came into behavior in some humans and animals?
Don't duck Vaxx's request asking you to please check out the flaws in your statement.

You either insist your statement stands
and then force Vaxx to go ahead correcting it
Or you review your statement and maybe Vaxx will hold his peace and keep quiet.
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by vaxx: 1:38pm On Feb 15, 2018
tintingz:
Can you tell us why or how Homosexuality came into behavior in some humans and animals?
You are a typical NIGERIA. answering question with question. answer this one presented to you first.....then throw your question back to me.
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff:
vaxx:
You are a typical NIGERIA.
answering question with question. answer this one presented to you first.....
then throw your question back to me.
Oii, and there you go being stereotypical about Nigeria
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by butterflyl1on: 1:42pm On Feb 15, 2018
dalaman:
Do you have any other lie to tell on behalf of the holy spirit?

Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by vaxx: 1:42pm On Feb 15, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
Oii, and there you go being stereotypical about Nigerian
lol, i do not really mean it. just that i see it so common among we Nigerians and not excluding me
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by butterflyl1on: 1:45pm On Feb 15, 2018
tintingz:
Lol, we know why people indulge in suicide bombing.

Homosexuality we don't know it root!
If suicide bombing wasn't natural, suicide bombers wouldn't exist in the first place grin

It doesn't matter why they do it. It's perfectly natural isn't it? cheesy
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 1:53pm On Feb 15, 2018
butterflyl1on:
You do not get it do you? How does homosexuality benefit humanity? If you mean pleasure, and eliminate purpose behind pleasure you fail same way you called natural disasters unprofitable and I showed you the purpose behind them.

If it's pleasure, which is more pleasurable?

Sticking a phallus in a moist and lubricated womanliness particularly designed for it or sticking it in a dry poop hole which excretes waste?

For the woman which holds purpose? Sticking a plastic phallus which feels nothing on its own into your orifice and then tomorrow you run for an ivf so you can have a child when you could have easily gotten this child from the real deal source (Men).

Mutual satisfaction is key. Are you saying evolution failed when it designed a phallus to be a perfect fit for a womanliness? Are you saying that naturally selective evolutionary process was flawed? cheesy

I would like your opinion on this.
The fact that Homosexuals find pleasure in the act shows how it benefits thier sexual urges!

Every other thing you mentioned are irrelevant!
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 1:54pm On Feb 15, 2018
vaxx:
You are a typical NIGERIA. answering question with question. answer this one presented to you first.....then throw your question back to me.
Like someone said why not go ahead and refute what I said.
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 1:55pm On Feb 15, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
Don't duck Vaxx's request asking you to please check out the flaws in your statement.

You either insist your statement stands
and then force Vaxx to go ahead correcting it
Or you review your statement and maybe Vaxx will hold his peace and keep quiet.
Lol, well said.
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by vaxx: 1:58pm On Feb 15, 2018
tintingz:
Like someone said why not go ahead and refute what I said.
Do you accept it is not flawed. so that i can at least point out to five errors in that statement
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 2:02pm On Feb 15, 2018
Dalaman never said s/he doesn't "hv a slight idea about anything pertaining his existence"!

Ronpet777:
Beautiful! I really like u dalaman because u can be very honest. But how come a person who doesn't hv a slight idea about anything pertaining his existence hv d effrontery to question one with one? Ur position is very clear now. U know nothing. Just as brainempty as a three months old baby. For someone like u, u shld sit and learn. When u hv learnt enough to knw ur purpose in d face of d earth, let me knw.
I need people who can dare to believe and run after it with all inquisitiveness till d day a solution is found. We believe in God and we hv gone all out to seek him. We r making progress, u r not. U stand nowhere, as confused as a nincompoop.
dalaman, go and find an answer to ur meaningless existence.
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by butterflyl1on: 2:04pm On Feb 15, 2018
tintingz:
The fact that Homosexuals find pleasure in the act shows how it benefits thier sexual urges!

Every other thing you mentioned are irrelevant!
Yet science which has been unable to explain the natural link to homosexuality in man, somehow you have found that link. grin

I guess you deserve an award in science.
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by OkCornel(m): 2:04pm On Feb 15, 2018
tintingz:
The fact that Homosexuals find pleasure in the act shows how it benefits thier sexual urges!

Every other thing you mentioned are irrelevant!
The fact that drug addicts indulge in sniffing cocaine and other detrimental substances shows how it benefits their health too right?

I'm just relating your thought process with other scenarios...and it just doesn't add up...
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 2:04pm On Feb 15, 2018
butterflyl1on:
If suicide bombing wasn't natural, suicide bombers wouldn't exist in the first place grin

It doesn't matter why they do it. It's perfectly natural isn't it? cheesy
Suicide bombers are influenced by what they are taught, brainwashed, ideology etc They are not suicide bombers when they are born.

Let's agree suicide bombing is natural, didn't I talked about the positive and negative about "natural"?
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by OkCornel(m): 2:07pm On Feb 15, 2018
tintingz:
Were you there when nature was designing things?

So nature is now your God. cheesy

The point is Homosexuals find themselves attractive and sexual satisfied, what could cause this? Is sexual satisfaction not part of nature?
If you can differentiate between an artist (God) and an artwork (nature) you won't be typing this.

But since you can't, perhaps that's why you are seeing homosexuality as a natural thing...

Tragic... cry
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 2:07pm On Feb 15, 2018
OkCornel:
Very good then. You mentioned something on jailing homosexuals...but that's not the point of this thread anyways...

However, a line needs to be drawn on certain issues...if you quarantine someone to prevent further spread of a contagious disease, then that is not a dangerous thing to do is it? But how you go about the process itself is what makes it right or wrong...

One of the funniest things I've noted is observing how people who are products of sex between two genders now canvassing for same sex union...very funny I tell ya...

Anyways...lemme not derail from the main topic of this thread...
That's how the Nazis said the Jews were a disease. That was the first step in their preparation to get rid of an estimated 6 million of them. Afterall, you don't handle diseases with love and affection when you decide to eradicate them!

Homosexuality is not a contagious disease. You don't 'catch' it by being sneezed on or touched!
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by OkCornel(m): 2:08pm On Feb 15, 2018
tintingz:
Suicide bombers are influenced by what they are taught, brainwashed, ideology etc They are not suicide bombers when they are born.

Let's agree suicide bombing is natural, didn't I talked about the positive and negative about "natural"?
So you are implying that homosexuals are born that way...and are not influenced by what they are taught or brainwashed with?
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by OkCornel(m): 2:09pm On Feb 15, 2018
budaatum:
That's how the Nazis said the Jews were a disease. That was the first step in their preparation to get rid of an estimated 6 million of them. Afterall, you don't handle diseases with love and affection when you decide to eradicate them!

Homosexuality is not a contagious disease. You don't 'catch' it by being sneezed on or touched!
You didn't get my analogy...ideas and thoughts are contagious...

I ain't spreading hatred here...I am attacking the idea, not the person...
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by butterflyl1on: 2:09pm On Feb 15, 2018
tintingz:
Suicide bombers are influenced by what they are taught, brainwashed, ideology etc They are not suicide bombers when they are born.

Let's agree suicide bombing is natural, didn't I talked about the positive and negative about "natural"?
But your comment said that if homosexuality wasn't natural it wouldn't exist grin

Suicide bombing exists so it's bombers must be natural too.

Sexual predators exist so they must be natural too.

Serial killers exist so they must be natural too.

I don't think you know the import of that your statement AT ALL!!

if you say suicide bombers are influenced even when they exist why do you feel homosexuality isn't influenced and is natural? cheesy

I asked you the benefits of homosexuality to humanity and you are telling me the benefit to self.

How does homosexuality benefit this earth?

You are drowning but do not know it yet.
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by butterflyl1on: 2:11pm On Feb 15, 2018
budaatum:
That's how the Nazis said the Jews were a disease. That was the first step in their preparation to get rid of an estimated 6 million of them. Afterall, you don't handle diseases with love and affection when you decide to eradicate them!

Homosexuality is not a contagious disease. You don't 'catch' it by being sneezed on or touched!
Tintingz says the nazis who eradicated the Jews existed and they couldn't have existed if it wasn't natural. grin

Same way homosexuality wouldn't exist if it wasn't natural.

Argue with tintingz cheesy
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff: 2:16pm On Feb 15, 2018
tintingz:
I once told you to define natural.

> Natural

1. Existing in or derived from nature; not made or caused by humankind.

2. In accordance with the nature of, or crcumstances surrounding, someone or something.

3. Relating to earthly human or physical nature as distinct from the spiritual or supernatural realm.

4. a person born with a learning disability.


From this definition here, is Homosexuality natural or not?
butterflyl1on:
LMAO what a way to reason. Homosexuality is natural you say and you say nature has positive and negative sides so I asked you to give me the positive sides of homosexuality in humans yet you keep dodging this.

If homosexual is natural in humans would you allow a man to penetrate your anus or touch you in an unseemly manner?

Since it's perfectly natural and normal you wouldn't frown at it right?
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Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 2:17pm On Feb 15, 2018
vaxx:
Do you accept it is not flawed. so that i can at least point out to five errors in that statement
Why not list them out?
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by budaatum: 2:17pm On Feb 15, 2018
Sorry, but you are going to get insults! Many people have sex without producing. And when two different gender people put their mouths on the others private bits, it definitely does not result in reproduction. Nor does sex by oneself. So I don't see why you would assume two same gender people have to reproduce because they have had sex.

OkCornel:
1) You gotta draw lines in the name of common sense...and common sense tells me you are not a product of a homosexual or lesbian relationship

2) Please enlighten me...which God creates a man and a woman with sexual organs for reproduction and still goes ahead to love same sex union? That must be a confused god I must say...

3) So...does a mother who loves a motherless child go ahead to have sexual relations with the motherless child to prove her feelings for the child? Because I don't see how love for a motherless child can be used to support homosexuality here...


I hope I get a mature and intelligent response to this post as opposed to needless and unprovoked insults...

Cheers
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by tintingz(m): 2:21pm On Feb 15, 2018
OkCornel:
So you are implying that homosexuals are born that way...and are not influenced by what they are taught or brainwashed with?
Who influenced Homosexuals in Saudi Arabia?
Re: Seun Doesn't Exist by MuttleyLaff: 2:23pm On Feb 15, 2018
butterflyl1on:
This means that since bestiality exists it is also natural.
Since mass murderers and serial killers exist they are also natural.
Since pain during childbirth exists, it is also natural grin

You just killed your own argument grin

Thank you very much.
Apart from the increased mental anguish at childbirth,
since death exists, it too, is also natural grin
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