Emmanystone:


You haven't addressed any sir. You have been cleverly dodging the questions i raised from the previous post i made from where you jumped in from. You left everything out. That's to you. Gabriel never failed to inform anyone he was sent with a message who he was. He always says in Luke 1:13 He said Fear Not and Verse 19 he said, 'I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings'
Luke:1:19
This is how we know; As Zacharia got home that night, he slept with his very aged wife, she got pregnant and had a son and named him John, as the Angel had said. Believe what you want.

Emmanystone:


My comment is Biblical because, YHWH Himself says that, for ua to know that he sent a messenger with the message, we should check if what that messenger says comes to pass. if not, he is fake. That's why i asked you to list the prophecies of your Muhammed and point how many are fulfilled.

You can start mentioning some pls. Mind you, one is brewing right now as we speak. And, if you(the muslims) are told to stop hating and pursuing after the Nation of Israel, you won't hear. Ezekiel chapters 36, 37, 38, and 39 is about to be fulfilled.

Pls mention the ones which are not fulfilled, let me swallow you with the fulfilled ones. Am waiting. You will have to begin with Babylon.

hopefulLandlord:
PastorAIO, did you study theology? if no, how come you're so knowledgeable about it?

Emmanystone:


What then was your motive when you came here prancing about calling them prophets?

It is relevant you because you called the Heathen Kings Prophets of YHWH and you insinuated that, if YHWH could use Neco of Egypt to warn Josiah, that makes Neco a Prophet of YHWH, hence He(YHWH] could use muhammed of Arabia with divergent message from what He had given before.

Sorry, Muhammed is a False Prophet. You can't win in this one.

Emmanystone:


Yes, Josiah was wonderful, but went to war without enquering from his God abi? God had to use the mouth of a Heathen King to warn his stubborn heart to retrieve, yet he disobeyed. To you he was an excellent king abi. Weytin concern Josiah with that War in the first place? Abegi.

frank317:

You equated them with ur almighty God when u said u were all worshiping the same God. You said the source is the same but the channel was different.

Emmanystone:


But, you bragged about having a Bible nau. E no dey for your own Bible? Or as usual you have an intent to mislead? Here it is.
1 Kings 12:26-31 (Good News Bible)
[b]He (Jeroboam) said to himself, “As things are now, if my people go to Jerusalem and offer sacrifices to the Lord in the Temple there, they will transfer their allegiance to King Rehoboam of Judah and will kill me.”

After thinking it over, he made two (bull-calves) of gold and said to his people, “You have been going long enough to Jerusalem to worship.

People of Israel, here are your gods who brought you out of Egypt!” He placed one of the gold bull-calves in Bethel and the other in Dan.

And so the people sinned, going to worship in Bethel and in Dan. Jeroboam also built places of worship on hilltops, and he chose priests from families who were not of the tribe of Levi.

hopefulLandlord:
PastorAIO, did you study theology? if no, how come you're so knowledgeable about it?

Emmanystone:

I didn't say that. Pls do not misquote me. I said, long before Muhammed was born, his grand father, Al Muttalab, and his father Abdulla worshipped Allah in the Arabic Peninsular. Jews were also there worshipping their YHWH, they never worshipped in the same worshipping place. If Allah and Yahweh are the same Deity, they would have of course worshipped together. There were Christians there too, but they never worshipped what Al Muttalab or Abdulla worshipped.

The Kaaba then wasn't exclusively the house of Allah, it was called 'the house god', as all the gods worshipped in that area had an efigy made and placed there as a representative. Allah was there too.

It is even said that the statue of the Catholic Mary, mother of Jesus was there. But the owners of these deities never gathered at the Kaaba to worship until Muhammed came along killing people, clearing off other idols leaving only his own. He even removed the daughters of allah, Alat, Malat and Uzzah leaving allah childless.

Emmanystone:


The writers of the Dead Sea Scrolls were Jews and they had no regard for the temple.
What did they write? They had no regard for the Temple or they didn't have one as it was destroyed?

Emmanystone:

You a sorcerer, understands the Bible better than a Christian okwaya? Now listen. Follow the Context there and tell me who that passage is referring to. Pls stop making a jest of yourself.

If you say because Jesus is called the Bright and the Morning Star, He is Lucifer, and if Isa 14 is talking about Lucifer, then it's talking about Jeaus, meaning Jesus challenged YHWH, because the Luficer in Isa 14 challenged YHWH. You are not clever by half.


1st hole.... Lucifer is a reference to the Planet Venus

2nd hole ... Jesus too is referred to as the bright and morning star.

3rd hole.... numerous passages in the prophets about being brought low from a high place and being humbled or brought down to Hell have often being ascribed to Jesus.

Lolzzzzz.
1. Bring this passages that talked about Jesus being humbled and being brought down to hell. Let analyze them.

2. You invariably said, Venus challenged YHWH in Isa 14.
3. Oga, stop with the deceit. Only satan is a master of deceit. Oh, wait!!!!!, the deep calleth to the deep.


and many other holes but those 3 are good to start with.
Hahahahahahahahha. Am waiting for you to bring up the scriptures let's really poke holes on your assertions. Abeg stop lying. Lairs have their place in hellfire.

Among the Aztecs, whose beliefs are the best-documented in the historical sources, Quetzalcoatl was related to gods of the wind, of the planet Venus, of the dawn,

Inanna was associated with the planet Venus,[29][66] which at that time was known as "the morning and evening star".[29] Several hymns praise Inanna in her role as the goddess of the planet Venus.[67] Theology professor Jeffrey Cooley has argued that, in many myths, Inanna's movements may correspond with the movements of the planet Venus in the sky.[67] In Inanna's Descent to the Underworld, unlike any other deity, Inanna is able to descend into the netherworld and return to the heavens. The planet Venus appears to make a similar descent, setting in the West and then rising again in the East.[67] An introductory hymn describes Inanna leaving the heavens and heading for Kur, what could be presumed to be, the mountains, replicating the rising and setting of Inanna to the West.[67] In Inanna and Shukaletuda, Shukaletuda is described as scanning the heavens in search of Inanna, possibly searching the eastern and western horizons.[68] In the same myth, while searching for her attacker, Inanna herself makes several movements that correspond with the movements of Venus in the sky.[67]

Emmanystone:

You have said nothing.

The post i made which you saw and jumped in is whether or not Muhammed was a channel used by YHWH. Instead of treating that, you are speaking grammar.

Was muhammed a prophet of YHWH?

Is Gabriel Jirbil?

Is Allah YHWH?

Treat these and stop the grammar.

PastorAIO:


I think that you read my posts the same way that you read your bible and that is why you are misquoting me anyhow.

You can understand the bible anyway you want to under the aegis that you are a christian (while I am a sorcerer, lolz).

But the fact remains that that passage in Isaiah chapter 14 was as a whole directed at the King of Babylon who was conquered by the Persians.

He was likened unto the planet Venus, Lucifer, (in it's phase as Eosphorus/morning star) which is known for it's brightness yet undergoes regular occultation. Venus is probably the brightest star in the sky from earth.

The same way that Venus is eventually occulted after dominating the morning sky is likened unto the fall of empires after they dominate the known world.

Nothing about challenging Yahoo.

Jesus too is often referred to as the bright morning star.

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Revelation 22 16

In fact venus has had such a strong impact on human imagination that her brightness is often used to describe deities in their dominance.

Wikipedia Quetzalcoatl

Wikipedia Inanna

Emmanystone:

Didn't read. Treat the main points.

PastorAIO:


Don't need you to read. All the points have been treated satisfactorily for the discerning mind.

Emmanystone:

Where did you answer if YHWH is Allah, if He sent Jibril, and if Jibril and Gabriel are the same entity?

Did YHWH send Muhammed? Pls point me where you answered this.

You were running around dragging on issues that are irrelevant to my points in discourse.

PastorAIO:

first question:
I am as unsure of muhammed being a prophet as I am unsure of Isaiah or Ezekiel or any other prophet

PastorAIO:

second question:
Is Gabriel Jibril? Yes. Resoundingly. Just as Yashua is Issa. And James is Yacob is Diego is Iago.
just like the first letter of the hebrew alphabet is Aleph and the first letter of the Arab alphabet is alif. And Z is Zain in hebrew and zayn in arabic

PastorAIO:

These two languages are cousins and words and names are shared by the two cultures in their different pronounciations.

PastorAIO:

Jews say 'Shalom'
Arabs say 'Salaam'

PastorAIO:

Third question:
Allah is as much Yahweh as Yahweh is El. El is the term for god and Allah is the term for God and it seems that the two words are even related etymologically.

PastorAIO:

Fourth question:
Oh, there's no fourth question.

PastorAIO:


I've been on NL so long and I know many of the games you're playing already. I have no intention to muddy the field by jumping up and down with you from point to point.

I answer everything in chronological order. So I first address the prior post before I address the one asking about jibril etc. Having answered the earlier posts succinctly I then proceeded to answer the Jibril questions.

If you like say that you didn't see it, as if you are not alerted everytime your posts are quoted.

Emmanystone:

Good, this is where you and i will begin a discussion.

If you are unsure of these people being prophets sent by the same Source, why are you here? What is your base for this discussion? You are basing your assertions on assumptions.

Am very unsure of Hindus and Buddhist having the same idealogies, you don't see me dabbling into their discussions.

Again, what are you basing your facts on?


On what bases are you giving a resounding 'Yes?', on assumptions. You are unsure of these things yet you give a resounding Yes?

Now, lets work with your assumption and suppose for a minute that your assumptions are correct. Are you judging these characters as the same entity base of their lexicon or on their Modus Operandi? because i see you using morphology of the words to assume they are they same.

We may have to go down to the etymology of those words to get their meanings, then we will know if these names are fabricated to sound as the same.

James is Jacob?

Now, can we talk about their Modus Operandi? We know a man by what he says and follows up to do them. We know of Gabriel of the Bible appearing gently without inflicting fear or forcing anyone to do anything. Why is Jibril different?

You mean Gabriel called Jesus the son of God to the Jews, and called the same Jesus a slave to Arabs? Really?
Why didn't Gabriel for at least one try having body contact with the prophets of old?
Why press down Muhammed to the point of suffocation before forcing words out of him?

Pls answer this according.


Oga, am not talking about their languages or the syntax of their languages. Am talking about the entities.
If you give a resounding Yes to the question if Gabriel is Jibril, you'll be saying YHWH is Allah. That will put you in a position to explain why the Jews in Yathrib didn't worship Allah as Abdullah did.

If you keep insisting that it's a matter of languages and their syntax, you'd have to explain to me why the Muslims don't walk into Synagogues and worship Allah.

Why will a Nigerian Christian find himself in Germany, a people of a strange tongue, but he walks into a Church to worship instead of a Mosque?

This validates your claim of YHWH being Allah how?


Do you know that God is not a name of any Deity?

God is a title like Chief, King, Madam and Sir.

All the Kings, Chiefs, Sirs and Madams have their personal individual names. So your claim is as invalid as they come.

Allah is not a name of a particular god, it's a title. In Arabic, Allah means god and that could mean any God.
The Allah (god) that Muhammad's progenitors worshipped had a personal name which Muslims abrogated just like they abrogated the daughters of allah Allat Malat and Uzza. his name of Hūbal. The same baal which YHWH commanded his people never to worship.
If you stand on the pedestal of EL means God and Allah means god, you'sink, because El is a title and has his personal name.


Once again, you failed woefully.

No matter how well satan masquerades, he can't be God.

O Well, there are some who will serve him irrespective, they are those the Bible calls Vessels fitted for destruction.

Ronpet777:

See woman wey dey battle man. I fear u o. U hv Lion Heart o.

first question:
I am as unsure of muhammed being a prophet as I am unsure of Isaiah or Ezekiel or any other prophet

Emmanystone:

Good, this is where you and i will begin a discussion.

If you are unsure of these people being prophets sent by the same Source, why are you here? What is your base for this discussion? You are basing your assertions on assumptions.

Am very unsure of Hindus and Buddhist having the same idealogies, you don't see me dabbling into their discussions.

Again, what are you basing your facts on?

You are making false claims left right and center with the objective of accumulating power to assuage your turbulent hateful mind. You think, falsely, that if you can acquire some kind of authority to dictate what is true and right then you will not feel so disturbed in your soul.
You probably don't know that this is what you are doing, but I'll demonstrate it to you.

I have a particularly strong distaste for this kind of behaviour and I am determined to expose you. Of course you may decide to not respond to me, that doesn't matter because I'm actually more concerned for the other people who might read these threads.

You are basing your assertions on assumptions.

Emmanystone:
My comment is Biblical because, YHWH Himself says that, for ua to know that he sent a messenger with the message, we should check if what that messenger says comes to pass. if not, he is fake. That's why i asked you to list the prophecies of your Muhammed and point how many are fulfilled.

Emmanystone:


On what bases are you giving a resounding 'Yes?', on assumptions. You are unsure of these things yet you give a resounding Yes?

Now, lets work with your assumption and suppose for a minute that your assumptions are correct. Are you judging these characters as the same entity base of their lexicon or on their Modus Operandi? because i see you using morphology of the words to assume they are they same.

We may have to go down to the etymology of those words to get their meanings, then we will know if these names are fabricated to sound as the same.

James is Jacob?

On what bases are you giving a resounding 'Yes?', on assumptions. You are unsure of these things yet you give a resounding Yes?

Now, lets work with your assumption and suppose for a minute that your assumptions are correct. Are you judging these characters as the same entity base of their lexicon or on their Modus Operandi? because i see you using morphology of the words to assume they are they same.

We may have to go down to the etymology of those words to get their meanings, then we will know if these names are fabricated to sound as the same.

James is Jacob?

Emmanystone:

Now, can we talk about their Modus Operandi? We know a man by what he says and follows up to do them. We know of Gabriel of the Bible appearing gently without inflicting fear or forcing anyone to do anything. Why is Jibril different?

You mean Gabriel called Jesus the son of God to the Jews, and called the same Jesus a slave to Arabs? Really?
Why didn't Gabriel for at least one try having body contact with the prophets of old?
Why press down Muhammed to the point of suffocation before forcing words out of him?

Pls answer this according.

Emmanystone:

Oga, am not talking about their languages or the syntax of their languages. Am talking about the entities.
If you give a resounding Yes to the question if Gabriel is Jibril, you'll be saying YHWH is Allah. That will put you in a position to explain why the Jews in Yathrib didn't worship Allah as Abdullah did.


Do you know that God is not a name of any Deity?

God is a title like Chief, King, Madam and Sir.

All the Kings, Chiefs, Sirs and Madams have their personal individual names. So your claim is as invalid as they come.

Allah is not a name of a particular god, it's a title. In Arabic, Allah means god and that could mean any God.
The Allah (god) that Muhammad's progenitors worshipped had a personal name which Muslims abrogated just like they abrogated the daughters of allah Allat Malat and Uzza. his name of Hūbal. The same baal which YHWH commanded his people never to worship.

if Gabriel is Jibril, you'll be saying YHWH is Allah.

Allah is not a name of a particular god, it's a title.

Allah means god and that could mean any God.

Emmanystone:



Oga, am not talking about their languages or the syntax of their languages. Am talking about the entities.
If you give a resounding Yes to the question if Gabriel is Jibril, you'll be saying YHWH is Allah. That will put you in a position to explain why the Jews in Yathrib didn't worship Allah as Abdullah did.

If you keep insisting that it's a matter of languages and their syntax, you'd have to explain to me why the Muslims don't walk into Synagogues and worship Allah.

Why will a Nigerian Christian find himself in Germany, a people of a strange tongue, but he walks into a Church to worship instead of a Mosque?

Emmanystone:

This validates your claim of YHWH being Allah how?


Do you know that God is not a name of any Deity?

God is a title like Chief, King, Madam and Sir.

All the Kings, Chiefs, Sirs and Madams have their personal individual names. So your claim is as invalid as they come.

Allah is not a name of a particular god, it's a title. In Arabic, Allah means god and that could mean any God.
The Allah (god) that Muhammad's progenitors worshiped had a personal name which Muslims abrogated just like they abrogated the daughters of allah Allat Malat and Uzza. his name of Hūbal. The same baal which YHWH commanded his people never to worship.
If you stand on the pedestal of EL means God and Allah means god, you'sink, because El is a title and has his personal name.

This validates your claim of YHWH being Allah how?

Allah is not a name of a particular god, it's a title. In Arabic, Allah means god and that could mean any God.
The Allah (god) that Muhammad's progenitors worshiped had a personal name which Muslims abrogated just like they abrogated the daughters of allah Allat Malat and Uzza. his name of Hūbal.

his name of Hūbal. The same baal which YHWH commanded his people never to worship.
If you stand on the pedestal of EL means God and Allah means god, you'sink, because El is a title and has his personal name.

Baal (/ˈbeɪ.əl/),[1][a] properly Baʿal, [b]was a title and honorific meaning "lord" in the Northwest Semitic languages spoken in the Levant during antiquity. From its use among people, it came to be applied to gods.

PastorAIO:



Well, we have run around a fair bit today. I had fun. I hope you did too.

Ronpet777:

See woman wey dey battle man. I fear u o. U hv Lion Heart o.

PastorAIO:


I'm curious as to how lionhearted this emmanystone is. Will he roar and charge to the defence of his pack of untruths and demonic taunts?

Or will he whimper and crawl back into the shadows from whence he came?

Emmanystone:

Lolzzzzzz. I wish i have the time that you have to keep running around the circle with you.

Sir, i'm busy. So, get a life.

If Allah is YHWH, then worship him, it doesn't affect me in any way.

Emmanystone:

Didn't read. Treat the main points.

Your hope is that if I am not here to call you out on your lies then you'd be free to exercise hegemony over doctrines.

It's like when the MSM complain about Fake news from alternative media. We know that MSM has been giving us fake news for decades now, and they are just crying that they no longer have hegemony over fake news agendas. Same with you, you don't what any other religious doctrine to get a hearing only you. So you lie and cheat and play stupid games like asking me 'Why are you here'?
The direct answer is that I am here to expose you.

Emmanystone:

Good, this is where you and i will begin a discussion.

Seun:

I don’t believe Indian gods are real, haven’t joined any cult, and I dont believe Satan exists just as I don’t believe God exists. All liars shall go to hell bro.

GloryIsaac:
It's simply because the owner is an atheist .

Just like,

Fulani President = Fulanis get to have fun and express themselves in anyway they seem fit, also bold enough to challenge any opposition.

Atheist NL Owner = Atheist finally get to have fun without much fear of backlash and are bold enough to drag it out with any opposition.


Simple logic , Imagine if S..eun was an open supporter of the LGBT community , you'll be amazed at what you might see here

Only difference is that Atheists are winning more converts here whereas you can't switch your roots to Fulani if you weren't born into one, at best, servant.

Cc Ronpet777