Doctormarrvin:
Happpppy Birthdayy! Don't let the comments ruin today for you love. May your birthday wishes be fulfilled.

Thank you love.

LordAdam16:


No sh*t. According to john locke human beings are born with tabula rasa i.e blank slates.it is the interaction with our environment that shapes our personality in terms of accumulation of experience over time.

So you're trying to say that introversion is a learned behavior as well. Since every personality disposition is a learned behavior? Can you hear yourself?

The nature versus nurture debate is not an equation. If it were, all psychosocial observations would be uniform.

Don't use words you have no idea of, because they sound knowledge-y.

-Lord

according to john locke i.e blank slates.it is the interaction with our environment that shapes our personality in terms of accumulation of experience overtime not disputing that some behaviorial tendencies are inherent in our biology.

Mariinee:
Thank you love.

hbd! So How old are you now?

FluidQueen:
since we're asking dumb, redundant questions.


How tf is it even possible? To be feeling your opposite sex?

Like poles repel, unlike poles attract... Law of nature!

darkchild64:


It is not true,blind people know how to laugh,where did they learn that from,children immediately they are born cry,where did they learn that

pardon my french did i say every some are shaped by environment and some are inherent in our biology.

boringnigerian:


So the fact that there are way fewer left handers than right handers makes left handers unnatural? The fact that there are way fewer people with green, blue or brown pupils means they are also unnatural, yh? Did you read what you typed?

Nature always has its exceptions. It may not be considered normal but it doesn't mean it's not natural.

All those your examples have been well explained by science! Anatomy and Genetics have given the reasons why those phenomenon exist but I'm yet to see where any for homosexuality.

fifty5:
you have a paucity of knowledge of the aforementioned subject. to you is it normal? He must have been exposed to some stimuli(situations) that has culminated into these behaviorial tendencies that is why in any therapy session you are ask to share your family history. And who told you it is not a learned behaviour it's obvious you don't know how environment influence our biology go and read up on nature vs nurture controversy.

Read what? Let's use yours as an example, did you learn to love Bobby and ass? I can tell you, I didn't learn being straight, I was straight from birth, I don't care how handsome a guy is, he is just another guy to me, but when I see the difference arrangements on the woman, I just know, that is what I want, so if someone else feels how I feel towards same sex, well I might not like it but he shouldn't be castigated, he is human and that is what he feels, how he is going to manage it is up to him but he is not less a man.

sparko1:


Read what? Let's use yours as an example, did you learn to love Bobby and ass? I can tell you, I didn't learn being straight, I was straight from birth, I don't care how handsome a guy is, he is just another guy to me, but when I see the difference arrangements on the woman, I just know, that is what I want, so if someone else feels how I feel towards same sex, well I might not like it but he shouldn't be castigated, he is human and that is what he feels, how he is going to manage it is up to him but he is not less a man.

nobody is castigating him everybody is looking for solution from our angle or did you spot any hate speech in my assertion.

Jamariwolff:
Why did you open this thread op?

So we can encourage you in being a faqqot, hug you and tell you our own homosexual experiences?

You're a fool a big shameless fool. You and all the faqqot lovers in here making you feel normal.

I will single-handedly and literally butcher any of my children that turn out like you, but it won't happen because my kids will know to identify the opposite sex for sexual activities after I teach them.

Awon ass driller.

I pity your mother I jus pity her. Nonsense

Faggôt

Just because you hate it, doesn't mean he should kill himself, it not one in a million occurrence, if the Nigeria government decides to legalize gay marriage, you will be surprised many men that will come out and declare themselves gay, they may be married, have girlfriend, sleep with their girlfriend, but they know deep down, this is not what they want, but because they can't have what they want they just remain mute!

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He's on the nurture side of the debate.

This is elementary psychology. I shouldn't even be pointing this out. You should start reading here -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_versus_nurture. There are whole books on this.

In modern psychology, no one knows to a tee the imprint of nature vs nurture in any one person. Nature is how we're born, nurture is how we are raised and all the experiences we accumulate. Learned behavior is mostly down to nurture, but it doesn't exclude nature.

No one is born knowing how to drive a car. We learn.

But there are those who are genetically indisposed to drive cars, psycho-mental disorders. Just as those who are genetically predisposed to excel at driving (for example, those with bodily-kinesthetic intelligence). In fact, a 2009 study found a genetic basis for bad driving in up to 20% of the population -- https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091028134637.htm. That should shoot a hole through your we are all blank slates theory.

And that is learned behavior that's supposed to be down to mostly nurture.

Personality dispositions are mostly down to nature. You would have to teach a kid how to ride a bike, but you can't teach a heterosexual male kid how to have butterflies in his stomach when a girl he fancies smiles at him. It just happens.

That's how he is wired. That's not learned behavior. That's a personality disposition.

If you're going to quote a 17th century psychologist, do yourself a favor and understand what he's talking about. And more importantly, the existential relevance of that surmise in today's scientific community.

-Lord

fifty5:
nobody is castigating him everybody is looking from solution from our angle or did you spot any hate speech in my assertion.

You said it is abnormal, it is learned! So answer my question! Did you learn to be straight?

Bros no hard feeling mehn! Na d pple wey dey here dey surprise me. Gay pple plenty for this country sha.

For those saying he should accept himself for who he is, there nothing right about homosexuality and GOD created no one that way. GOD is not an author of confusion ,it has to be that something went wrong somewhere. If re-orientation does not work, then I believe you should go for deliverance cos I believe in miracles. It's just the devil causing confusions making some think they were born gay.

Rev 3vs11and 12. Behold, i come quickly! hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown. He who overcomes, i will make him a pillar in the temple of My Father, and he shall go back no more...
Sir you are in a battle, earth is not your dwelling place neither ur citizenship, rather your citizenship is in heaven. It is the spirit who gives life, the flesh profits nothing. Luke 18 vs 1 says "then he spoke a parable to them, that men always ought to pray and not lose heart. At this point you need not to lose heart but to keep praying having this assurance that the expectation of the righteous shall no be cut off. be strong in d lord and in d power of it's might; put on d whole armor of God yhat you may be able to stand the devices of the devil. the flesh battles against the spirit and dspirit against d flesh. Be strong

Shankieboy:
I'm a devoted christian. I believe in Jesus And his teachings. But what I don't seem to understand is Why he hasn't changed my Sexuality. I've prayed. Threatened to harm myself, believing he'll heal me from homosexuality. But all to to no avail.

I've fasted. 5 days dry. I've been celibate for years but I still find myself attracted to members of my gender.

I'm very close to self hate because I feel disgusted with myself. I've tried to be straight. had several girlfriends but I don't seem to be sexually attracted to them. It just doesn't work.

What do I do? Please, help me. I need a miracle. I need an intervention. Else, I'll wallow in depression.

Insults are welcomed.

send me a mail

My dog who decides to identify itself as a fish, begins to dress like fish and learned how to swim, but then it gave birth to little puppy last week. The world is so surprised and shocked that my dog who identifies as a fish actually gave birth to a puppy !!..

Sounding politically correct is killing us. Everyone wants some sort of affirmation and tries to play the victim in order to feel comfortable with their bad habits..
That's when you'll here lines like -

"That's the way God created me", " it's in my biology, I was born that way".etc...

But we all know its untrue.. These habits and vices were actually habits and practices that were allowed to linger and have grown to that extent.. Op just want justification and sympathy here to feel better when he continued on that path. Bro, you should go see a psychologist or someone who can advise you...

happy birthday to you, mariinee spirit.

long life and prosperity!

....

mudiana:
Bros no hard feeling mehn! Na d pple wey dey here dey surprise me. Gay pple plenty for this country sha.

I swear Bro, it's alarming how Nigerians are beginning to embrace homosexuality in the name of exposure..... God isn't an author of confusion. It's the devil playing tricks with the minds of some that is making them think they were actually born gay.

CupOfT:
c'mon... For a start, homosexuality does not come natural at some point there ain't a thing like that, y then must he be encouraged to accept a learned behavior that could be unleashed. My friend pls dnt listen to anybody telling to take a nature that is not of yur father in heaven. Am glad you said you are believer, give yursef to Him and don't cease in yur prayers. I will remember u in my prayers too

Who is this one, did you learn to be straight? Just answer the question, stop quoting our father in heaven, like you wrote the Bible, stop hiding behind Bible verse to propagate hate, if I may ask how does one unleash homosexuality, by fasting and praying or going for deliverance, let me guess you will give me an example, someone that was delivered, you have forgotten that even hardened criminals will profess to be born again just so they can be released.

LordAdam16:


He's on the nurture side of the debate.

This is elementary psychology. I shouldn't even be pointing this out. You should start reading here -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_versus_nurture. There are whole books on this.

In modern psychology, no one knows to a tee the imprint of nature vs nurture in any one person. Nature is how we're born, nurture is how we are raised and all the experiences we accumulate. Learned behavior is mostly down to nurture, but it doesn't exclude nature.

No one is born knowing how to drive a car. We learn.

But there are those who are genetically indisposed to drive cars, psycho-mental disorders. Just as those who are genetically predisposed to excel at driving (for example, those with bodily-kinesthetic intelligence). In fact, a 2009 study found a genetic basis for bad driving in up to 20% of the population -- https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091028134637.htm. That should shoot a hole through your we are all blank slates theory.

And that is learned behavior that's supposed to be down to mostly nurture.

Personality dispositions are mostly down to nature. You would have to teach a kid how to ride a bike, but you can't teach a heterosexual male kid how to have butterflies in his stomach when a girl he fancies smiles at him. It just happens.

That's how he is wired. That's not learned behavior. That's a personality disposition.

If you're going to quote a 17th century psychologist, do yourself a favor and understand what he's talking about. And more importantly, the existential relevance of that surmise in today's scientific community.

-Lord

mr lord we are on the same page if you read some of my mention i have quoted nature vs nurture controversy everything boils down to the fact that his on the nurture side.am tired already feeling sleepy already have been arguing since morning.

LordAdam16:


He's on the nurture side of the debate.

This is elementary psychology. I shouldn't even be pointing this out. You should start reading here -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_versus_nurture. There are whole books on this.

In modern psychology, no one knows to a tee the imprint of nature vs nurture in any one person. Nature is how we're born, nurture is how we are raised and all the experiences we accumulate. Learned behavior is mostly down to nurture, but it doesn't exclude nature.

No one is born knowing how to drive a car. We learn.

But there are those who are genetically indisposed to drive cars, psycho-mental disorders. Just as those who are genetically predisposed to excel at driving (for example, those with bodily-kinesthetic intelligence). In fact, a 2009 study found a genetic basis for bad driving in up to 20% of the population -- https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091028134637.htm. That should shoot a hole through your we are all blank slates theory.

And that is learned behavior that's supposed to be down to mostly nurture.

Personality dispositions are mostly down to nature. You would have to teach a kid how to ride a bike, but you can't teach a heterosexual male kid how to have butterflies in his stomach when a girl he fancies smiles at him. It just happens.

That's how he is wired. That's not learned behavior. That's a personality disposition.

If you're going to quote a 17th century psychologist, do yourself a favor and understand what he's talking about. And more importantly, the existential relevance of that surmise in today's scientific community.

-Lord

mr lord we are on the same page if you read some of my mention i have quoted nature vs nurture controversy everything boils down to the fact that his on the nurture side.am tired already feeling sleepy already have been arguing since morning.

Nelsizzy:
I wanted to advise the OP but after noticing the way he conveniently quote those that support his stance and snub those that speak the truth, i can clearly see he love the condition he is in presently. Good luck drilling a guys ass and getting drilled in return.


Adios.

The Op doesn't want help, he's just feeling guilty and wants some sympathy and affirmation. Lots of gay guys on NL, many hide under a female alias ...they are the ones pushing him on...
This thread isn't a call for help. It's call to seek justification and affirmation.

Fucking gays..

fifty5:
mr lord we are on the same page if you read some of my mention i have quoted nature vs nurture controversy everything boils down to the fact that his on the nurture side.am tired already feeling sleepy already have been arguing since morning.

That is not a fact.

Provide a research that backs that pseudo-science you're postulating.

That's exactly what I asked for in my first reply to you. You ended up giving me a quote you do not even understand.

-Lord

sparko1:


You said it is abnormal, it is learned! So answer my question! Did you learn to be straight?

baba go and read up how environment shapes personality

SoldierBoy1:
For those saying he should accept himself for who he is, there nothing right about homosexuality and GOD created no one that way. GOD is not an author of confusion ,it has to be that something went wrong somewhere. If re-orientation does not work, then I believe you should go for deliverance cos I believe in miracles. It's just the devil causing confusions making some think they were born gay.

And somehow you speak for God, you have never seen people born blind, crippled, deaf, dumb, even transgender, oh let me guess because we can see the physical change so that is possible, latter you will say you walk by faith but not by sight, keep deceiving yourself.

sparko1:


Who is this one, did you learn to be straight? Just answer the question, stop quoting our father in heaven, like you wrote the Bible, stop hiding behind Bible verse to propagate hate, if I may ask how does one unleash homosexuality, by fasting and praying or going for deliverance, let me guess you will give me an example, someone that was delivered, you have forgotten that even hardened criminals will profess to be born again just so they can be released.

We learned to be straight, same way you learned the language. Societal standards. Morality etc.. Did anyone teach you how not to kill someone else, I'm sure no one taught you. You learned it by just being part of a society

The brain is often a clean slate at birth, we learn from what from what we see,hear etc. The environment and interactions we have. That's why we know what's natural and what isn't..what's socially acceptable and what isn't ..

fifty5:
baba go and read up how environment shapes personality

I suppose you can't answer the question, this is not like smoking or speaking in an accent but I guess, you are set in your ways. We are all young, before the end of this century we shall see how long it will take Nigeria to legalize it.

This kind cannot go except by deliverance, a demon is involved homosexuality is never ordinary move to Life Oasis Church aka the Dream centre church for instant deliverance. God bless you for being honest.

FluidQueen:
Dude. Let me start by telling you, YOU ARE AMAZING!
You are what you are, A Gay, Beautiful man.
No amount of prayers and anointing oils would change that, but it's okay. Your god obviously made you that way. In his words, he created man in his own image. You're his image, and your sexuality too.


Stop torturing yourself. Go find love and happiness. Embrace your sexuality. Find a dude. It is who you are. If you eventually meet God and he judges You, ask him why he didn't change you. His fault, not yours.

PS- Send me a message. A DM. We need to talk. Suicide isn't the option. Life's too short to feel this way. Pursue those Orgasms, boy!

All in the name of trying to sound intelligent and liberal you ended up sounding stupid... People like you mislead others with the facade of knowledge that covers the empty spaces in your brain.

sparko1:


I suppose you can't answer the question, this is not like smoking or speaking in an accent but I guess, you are set in your ways. We are all young, before the end of this century we shall see how long it will take Nigeria to legalize it.

are you sure let's keep fingers crossed our religious nature will always come in the way of these liberal policies.