kingkakaone:


Perhaps if the Islamic nations would be fair to allow freedom of worship and allow Christianity you know the population won't be up to that.

Most Islamic countries prohibits Christianity but they will shout freedom of worship in another country.
Have u seen any Christian dominated nation with worship or religious prohibitions

Olabenjamen22:

Bros, calm down, we are not fighting here.
If i may ask did KJV, ESV write the bible or translate the Bible?
Thank God You acknowledge that's of the same bible, so let be help you with meaning and definition of version according to wikipedia
Version. (obsolete) The act of translating, or rendering, from one language into another language.
so what are you saying.


Well I will be glad to do that if you can show me KJV, RSV e.t.c in Hebrew and Greek form.

Lol, what you people cannot refute is that those people you are mentioning only translate the bible not write it, lol



Really, because i have alot of Muslim friends here usually listen to quran recitation in English, so what are you saying?



Same apply to Words of Bible un Hebrew, so talk less.



Go back to school you educated illiterate.
Learn the meaning of version and it application.

alBHAGDADI:
Google is there for you to check out the facts na. Click the below link to see for yourself or use google.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/06/the_odd_body_religion/



Islam grew because of violence, forceful conversion and reckless breeding due to plygamy.

Islam is also the fastest dying religion due to the rate of terrorist atacks - muslims killing muslims.

Proudlyngwa:
Rubbish write up.
We have very few Christian's in Nigeria, what we have are mostly Church goers.

Nigerian Church goers are outright hypocrites, who only want to be told ,what they want to hear.
With their favorite verse, thou shall not judge , to allow them wallow in sin.

As for Muslims, the are mostly fanatics, with the non fanatics being criminally silent.


I gave up on organised religion, a long time ago, to practise spirituality (John 4.24) with my holy Bible as my instructor.

In Nigeria,what you guys practice is superstition, not religion.

kabrud:
[s][/s]
I should be the one to provide the Greek or Hebrew version for you? Are you not the one that said they are in those languages? How will you be saying something and be holding me responsible? Lol. Did I ask you to provide the Arabic version of the Quran? I said the Quran is in Arabic, and I quoted a verse in Arabic language without telling you to that for me, so why should I be the one to do your own? I should go to school and learn what is version? Am I the Christian that say there are king James and Revised standard edition of the Bible? keep deceiving yourselves.

HRHQueenPhil:
DIS IS D FIRST ABIAN am meeting with a unique mentality, press on sa

Olabenjamen22:


Lol, discussing with someone like you is just a waste of time, am even expecting you to tell me that version is different translation from one language to another, but you cannot do that, which is a big shame on you and your like. Well i have a prayer meeting to join, and you are free to come. Peace,

ebenholer:
What I will affirm: the population of hell is actually multiplying and so dont expect the population of Christians not to decrease. How many people are mindful of heaven nowaday. The population of hell is the fastest in growth now.

Caseless:
Lol


Albhagdadi , as an extremely emotional Christian, I know your argument will be devoid of logic.

Versions of Quran? King salman version or emir sanusi version?

In your fake data, Buddhist are 300 million?


Muslims 1.3 billion? You're funny.

If Muhammad came 2000 year after Jesus, how did Islam grow and still closing the gap in number it has with Christianity? That's the argument of the pastor.

Of the 6 continents of the world, Africa and Asia accounted for close to 85% of world population as at the last count. You know the population of muslims in Asia and Africa.

In fact, it's projected that muslims will be 1.5 billion in 2050 in Asia. That's the growth the pastor is talking about.

Check the same google again to see the fastest growing religion in the world. Even in Europe and America where you claim is "Christian". That's the argument of the pastor.

Caseless:
you're funny.

In 2010, population of muslims was 1.6 billion. Despite the persecution Muslims suffer in the world history.

So, in Christian or nations dominated by other religions, muslims are allowed to enjoy unhindered growth?

Muslims are forced not to practice their religion in China. Those in Israel are persecuted. Those in America are held down and discriminated against. Those in Myanmar are killed and driven out.

In fact, in any Muslim country where there's peace, America and the west have planted war in those places and the results you know - deaths and casualties.
I am talking about allowing other religion in a majorly Muslim state not america and the west.

What do you think the wars they instigate in Muslim nations are set to achieve? Reduction in population and destruction of Islam.

Do you know what muslims faced in andulus(Spain)? So much freedom given to Islam to grow indeed.

Olabenjamen22:


your Allah really work hard in making you dumb, am so sure you are one of those people that like the man news yesterday, but because they prove the man wrong today you are disappointed lol, no need for you to comment since you don't read the news, so carry your frustration go your hIslamic section.

Olabenjamen22:


your Allah really work hard in making you dumb, am so sure you are one of those people that like the man news yesterday, but because they prove the man wrong today you are disappointed lol, no need for you to comment since you don't read the news, so carry your frustration go your hIslamic section.

alBHAGDADI:
I touched on that, but your failure to read the post really blinded you from seeing it.

alBHAGDADI:
A post by a certain Bishop Sam Zuga is currently trending for a statement he made concerning religion. In the post, the Bishop claims Muslims are better than Christians. This he did with reasons but failed to back them up using the Quran or Bible.

https://www.nairaland.com/4369794/bishop-sam-zuga-why-muslims


Let's examine the reasons he gave to see whether they hold water or are simply falsehood issued to decieve the gullible.




The bishop has hinged his claim on the reason that the population of Muslims is competiting with that of Christianity. This is one big lie and it shows that he is not an informed person. Below is a list showing 7 religions and their population. You can find the list on google.

Christianity (2.1 billion)
Islam (1.3 billion)
Nonreligious (Secular/Agnostic/Atheist) (1.1 billion)
Hinduism (900 million)
Chinese traditional religion (394 million)
Buddhism 376 million.
Primal-indigenous (300 million)

Clearly, one can see that Christianity trumps Islam with over a billion adherents. So where did this bishop get his own statistics from? Perhaps he just assumed that it should be so simply because Muslims practice polygamy and love to give birth to many children. He forgot that however well their population is increasing, it is also decreasing due to the constant Muslim on Muslim violence.



There are also different versions of Quran just as we have it with the Bible (pls google up). The Bishop and many others believe that for there to be different versions of the Bible, it must mean that it has been tampered with. What this Bishop doesn't know is that he is simply ridiculing Islam which claims God's word cannot be tampered with.

Quran 6:115
SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.

If that Bishop and all those who believe that the Quran and the Bible contain words of the same God, how come they believe that the words of that God in the Bible were tampered with when he himself said in the Quran that his words cannot be altered?

b. Prayer

What has the amount of times one prays got to do with who's better? And who told this bishop that it's only on Sundays Christians pray? Perhaps he expects to see Christians praying in the streets where all eyes can see, something the Pharisees of Jesus time use to do which He warned us against. Christians pray at anytime they want, not at designated times. They can pray at anytime cos they know their God is not the type that waits till a particular hour before he can listen to prayers.

c. Place of worship

Christians also worship anywhere they want and are even welcomed. No one will prevent you from worshipping in any Church governed by God, cos even non-christians are welcomed. Mr Bishop, can a Yoruba muslim be allowed to lead prayer in a mosque in Northern Nigeria?



I have never seen where a person is rejected by Christianity just because of the Church he attends. Christianity even welcomes people of other faith in Love. Do Sunni Muslims love Shia Muslims? NO. The reason why this Bishop is so accepted by Muslism to the point of him saying they allow him to preach in their mosque is simply because he only plays their tune, meaning he preaches another Jesus. The moment he starts telling them that Jesus is the Son of God, I can assure you that you and I know what will happen to him.



All Christian denominations hold that major believe that Jesus is God made flesh, no dispute about that. I now wonder what this man is talking about.

There are tonnes of fake Imams as much as fake pastors out there; the ones that sell human parts for rituals, the ones that inspire terrorists and jihadists and the ones that sleep with other people's wife.

Jesus Christ already told us not to let people know when we are fasting. That is why we dont broadcast it to the rest of the world. We simply keep it to ourselves.



How do you expect CAN to come and welcome you when they know that it is not Christianity you are preaching but Islam? Have you ever seen Muslims coming to welcome Reinhard Bonke or Bishop Oyedepo? They won't cos nothing they say interests them, infact their words are against the Islamic belief. So, if Muslims are welcoming you, just know that you are in league with them, perhaps their mole.



What this bishop is saying is that if a pastor should tell me to strap myself with a suicide vest and go blow up a Church or Mosque, I'm not to disobey. Now, we know why Northeast Nigeria is the way it is today.

The Quran can't be argued on cos questioning it can lead to beheadings and punishment.



If Christians are not united, how come they are not bombing each other's Church? How come they are not killing each other like we have it in the middle east?

Speaking of gifts, does this pastor know the amount of Christian organizations that have donated gifts to boko haram victims who are mostly Muslims, gifts that are sometimes prevented from the few Christians in the IDP camps?

Muslims believe in a twisted version of Jesus. How can they say they believe in Jesus yet they deny that he is the Son of God?

John 5:26

"For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself;

Matthew 3:17

and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased.".



I think this Bishop just successfully declared himself a false prophet who should be ignored by all means.

alBHAGDADI:
A post by a certain Bishop Sam Zuga is currently trending for a statement he made concerning religion. In the post, the Bishop claims Muslims are better than Christians. This he did with reasons but failed to back them up using the Quran or Bible.

https://www.nairaland.com/4369794/bishop-sam-zuga-why-muslims


Let's examine the reasons he gave to see whether they hold water or are simply falsehood issued to decieve the gullible.




The bishop has hinged his claim on the reason that the population of Muslims is competiting with that of Christianity. This is one big lie and it shows that he is not an informed person. Below is a list showing 7 religions and their population. You can find the list on google.

Christianity (2.1 billion)
Islam (1.3 billion)
Nonreligious (Secular/Agnostic/Atheist) (1.1 billion)
Hinduism (900 million)
Chinese traditional religion (394 million)
Buddhism 376 million.
Primal-indigenous (300 million)

Clearly, one can see that Christianity trumps Islam with over a billion adherents. So where did this bishop get his own statistics from? Perhaps he just assumed that it should be so simply because Muslims practice polygamy and love to give birth to many children. He forgot that however well their population is increasing, it is also decreasing due to the constant Muslim on Muslim violence.



There are also different versions of Quran just as we have it with the Bible (pls google up). The Bishop and many others believe that for there to be different versions of the Bible, it must mean that it has been tampered with. What this Bishop doesn't know is that he is simply ridiculing Islam which claims God's word cannot be tampered with.

Quran 6:115
SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
And the word of your Lord has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.

If that Bishop and all those who believe that the Quran and the Bible contain words of the same God, how come they believe that the words of that God in the Bible were tampered with when he himself said in the Quran that his words cannot be altered?

b. Prayer

What has the amount of times one prays got to do with who's better? And who told this bishop that it's only on Sundays Christians pray? Perhaps he expects to see Christians praying in the streets where all eyes can see, something the Pharisees of Jesus time use to do which He warned us against. Christians pray at anytime they want, not at designated times. They can pray at anytime cos they know their God is not the type that waits till a particular hour before he can listen to prayers.

c. Place of worship

Christians also worship anywhere they want and are even welcomed. No one will prevent you from worshipping in any Church governed by God, cos even non-christians are welcomed. Mr Bishop, can a Yoruba muslim be allowed to lead prayer in a mosque in Northern Nigeria?



I have never seen where a person is rejected by Christianity just because of the Church he attends. Christianity even welcomes people of other faith in Love. Do Sunni Muslims love Shia Muslims? NO. The reason why this Bishop is so accepted by Muslism to the point of him saying they allow him to preach in their mosque is simply because he only plays their tune, meaning he preaches another Jesus. The moment he starts telling them that Jesus is the Son of God, I can assure you that you and I know what will happen to him.



All Christian denominations hold that major believe that Jesus is God made flesh, no dispute about that. I now wonder what this man is talking about.

There are tonnes of fake Imams as much as fake pastors out there; the ones that sell human parts for rituals, the ones that inspire terrorists and jihadists and the ones that sleep with other people's wife.

Jesus Christ already told us not to let people know when we are fasting. That is why we dont broadcast it to the rest of the world. We simply keep it to ourselves.



How do you expect CAN to come and welcome you when they know that it is not Christianity you are preaching but Islam? Have you ever seen Muslims coming to welcome Reinhard Bonke or Bishop Oyedepo? They won't cos nothing they say interests them, infact their words are against the Islamic belief. So, if Muslims are welcoming you, just know that you are in league with them, perhaps their mole.



What this bishop is saying is that if a pastor should tell me to strap myself with a suicide vest and go blow up a Church or Mosque, I'm not to disobey. Now, we know why Northeast Nigeria is the way it is today.

The Quran can't be argued on cos questioning it can lead to beheadings and punishment.



If Christians are not united, how come they are not bombing each other's Church? How come they are not killing each other like we have it in the middle east?

Speaking of gifts, does this pastor know the amount of Christian organizations that have donated gifts to boko haram victims who are mostly Muslims, gifts that are sometimes prevented from the few Christians in the IDP camps?

Muslims believe in a twisted version of Jesus. How can they say they believe in Jesus yet they deny that he is the Son of God?

John 5:26

"For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself;

Matthew 3:17

and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased.".



I think this Bishop just successfully declared himself a false prophet who should be ignored by all means.

anigbajumo:


That is not fact from u but junk analysis coz u lack basic knowledge about Islam.
Islam is totally different from any other religion on earth,you can't do it anyhow coz is a religion from Almighty Allah that has already completed over the years,no one can CHANGE it till eternity.

However, Islam teaches everything even some things that has not been happen but will happen in the next 50yrs,Islam has warned us how to distance ourselves from it.

Aliamdulilah,am proud of my religion

Olabenjamen22:


little research would have save you and your gullible like from embarrassment.

Sahih International: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
Pickthall: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.
Yusuf Ali: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Shakir: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.
Muhammad Sarwar: and their statement that they murdered Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of God, when, in fact, they could not have murdered him or crucified him. They, in fact, murdered someone else by mistake. Even those who disputed (the question of whether or not Jesus was murdered) did not have a shred of evidence. All that they knew about it was mere conjecture. They certainly could not have murdered Jesus.
Mohsin Khan: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:

This is just one verse from different version of your quran lol

KKKWHITE:
one thing for such is that Christians discriminate, they are divided, the present day church is just about money not salvation and 95 percentage of the members who claim to be Christians are just church goers

Phelix01:
what is d meaning of this?

R u b b I S H

TerrificTim:
This is crazy!

I can't comment on an Islamic thread but Muslims can comment freely on Christian threads?

Well, fact one
A Muslim will always carry the Arabic version of the Quran. Their Imams can quote crap for them and they will nod in reply. It is so easy to brainwash them. You have to go to school for 8 years in order to read their Quran in the original language. Yet, they refuse to use the English version

Fact 2
They have too many unnecessary rules guiding how things should be done. Things like how to poo, how to have sex, how to discipline a child and even how to sleep. And if you disobey, it is a sin

Algorithms:



Olodo... Quran has one version, One Arabic version since its revelation more than 1400yrs ago...u just gave different translation in English to a particular verse...

Olabenjamen22:


Oponu, then how many Hebrew version did bible have?

Educated illiterate that did not know that version mean translation from one language to another. Hopeless illiterate.

Maybe we should talk about the other versions that utman(third successor of your gigolo prophet) destroy since you claim your quran have one version since revelation. Lol what a shame.

Olabenjamen22:


Lol, discussing with someone like you is just a waste of time, am even expecting you to tell me that version is different translation from one language to another, but you cannot do that, which is a big shame on you and your like. Well i have a prayer meeting to join, and you are free to come. Peace,

nextprince:

Coming from an irreparably confused dolt. all you have to offer is nothing but insults and tantrums calling people illiterate and insulting the Prophet while going about with a piece of crap compiled by drunkards in their hallucination.

That crump of noodles you placed on the same pedestal with brain needs to be replaced with the brain of a cockroach. Can you now provide the least explanation to these show of madness in those rubbish you call holy versions? This is just 5 out of the 101 contradictions posted by a human being with a working brain.

1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)

2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?

Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?

Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)

4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
Three (I Chronicles 21:12)

5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)

Dunce, akuya kowai.

UnicoBoas01:
D only reason dat make it seem like muslims r more is cos dey marry more wives n wit dat give birth to more children.Dey claim their religion of peace,how many muslims dominated country is peaceful? And in nigeria dey create d most problems,boko haram,herdmen,illiteracy,underage voting,etc

Caseless:
ngwa, provide the Greek or Hebrew version/copy.