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| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by OkaiCorne(m): 5:09pm On May 08, 2018 |
Cattle tithe An additional tithe mentioned in the Book of Leviticus (27:32-33) is the cattle tithe, which is to be sacrificed as a korban at the Temple in Jerusalem. Ma'aser kesafim Ma'aser kesafim is a tithe that Jews give to charity (tzedakah), something that is done on a voluntary basis, as this practice has not been regulated in Jewish codes of law. HAVING GONE THROUGH ALL THESE...I'M STILL AT A LOSS AS TO WHERE THE CHURCH GOT IT'S DOCTRINE OF OBLIGATORY MONETARY TITHING FROM IF GOD HAS CLEARLY INSTRUCTED WHAT SHOULD BE TITHED, WHY DISOBEY GOD TO FOLLOW THE DOCTRINES OF GREEDY MEN? |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by brodalokie: 6:56pm On May 08, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:Stop debating the word of God. Especially when you don't know what you are talking about. Christians are not non-jew as you call it. I have realized that you are not entitled to the information you are arguing about. You still have a long way to go. First you must find the true Christian church that worships the one and only true God, and then you are baptized in his name which is The Lord Jesus Christ and you must study and learn about this God and his word. When you have questions ask and you will receive, not debating his commandments because you're bored. God is not mocked... |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by OkaiCorne(m): 7:22pm On May 08, 2018 |
brodalokie:You that knows what you're talking about...answer these questions I have been asking you since! 1) Where did God instruct tithes to be paid monetarily? 2) Give us examples of gentiles that tithed in the old or new testament! Answer these questions and stop beating around the bush!!! |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by brodalokie: 7:36pm On May 08, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:Christians are no longer gentiles. They are joint heirs with the Jews. The original Jews was rejected by God to focus on us. We are obliged to pay tithes to God. That's where your pastor live on. It can be money if you're earning your income as money and it can be food or animals, what matters is 10% of your substance is for God. I hope you stop debating the word of God after this. You must be baptized in the name of Jesus to become a true Christian otherwise you're just a rebranded pagan virus the devil used to destroy the truth... JESUS IS LORD |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by OkaiCorne(m): 7:39pm On May 08, 2018 |
brodalokie:If Christians outside of Israel were not gentiles, then explain what happened in Acts 15...and tell us who were referred to as gentiles there... I thought people study their Bibles... |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by OkaiCorne(m): 7:41pm On May 08, 2018 |
1599 Geneva Bible Acts 15 1 Then came down certain from Judea, and taught the brethren, saying, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. 2 And when there was great dissension, and disputation by Paul and Barnabas against them, they ordained that Paul and Barnabas, and certain others of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the Apostles and Elders about this question. 3 Thus being brought forth by the Church, they passed through Phoenicia and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles, and they brought great joy unto all the brethren. 4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the Church, and of the Apostles and Elders, and they declared what things God had done by them. 5 But said they, certain of the sect of the Pharisees, which did believe, rose up, saying that it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the Law of Moses. 6 Then the Apostles and Elders came together to look to this matter. 7 And when there had been great disputation, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Ye men and brethren, ye know that a good while ago, among us God chose out me, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the Gospel, and believe. 8 And God which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, in giving unto them the holy Ghost even as he did unto us. 9 And he put no difference between us and them, after that by faith he had purified their hearts. 10 Now therefore, why tempt ye God, to lay a yoke on the disciples’ necks, which neither our fathers, nor we were able to bear? 11 But we believe, through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved, even as they do. 12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and heard Barnabas and Paul, which told what signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles by them. 13 And when they held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me. 14 Simeon hath declared, how God first did visit the Gentiles, to take of them a people unto his Name. 15 And to this agree the words of the Prophets, as it is written, 16 After this I will return, and will build again the Tabernacle of David, which is fallen down, and the ruins thereof will I build again, and I will set it up. 17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles upon whom my Name is called, saith the Lord which doeth all these things. 18 From the beginning of the world, God knoweth all his works. 19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them of the Gentiles that are turned to God, 20 But that we send unto them, that they abstain themselves from filthiness of idols, and fornication, and that is strangled, and from blood. 21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, seeing he is read in the Synagogues every Sabbath day. 22 Then it seemed good to the Apostles and Elders with the whole Church to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas: to wit, Judas whose surname was Barsabas, and Silas, which were chief men among the brethren, 23 And wrote letters by them after this manner, THE APOSTLES, and the Elders, and the brethren, Unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch, and in Syria, and in Cilicia, send greeting. 24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us, have troubled you with words, and cumbered your minds, saying, Ye must be circumcised and keep the Law: to whom we gave no such commandment, 25 It seemed therefore good to us, when we were come together with one accord, to [send] chosen men unto you, with our beloved Barnabas and Paul. 26 Men that have given up their lives for the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, which shall also tell you the same things by mouth. 28 For it seemed good to the holy Ghost, and to us, to lay no more burden upon you, than these necessary things. 29 That is, that ye abstain from things offered to idols, and blood, and that that is strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. 30 Now when they were departed, they came to Antioch, and after that they had assembled the multitude, they delivered the Epistle, 31 And when they had read it, they rejoiced for the consolation. 32 And Judas and Silas being Prophets, exhorted the brethren with many words, and strengthened them. 33 And after they had tarried there a space, they were let go in peace of the brethren unto the Apostles. 34 Notwithstanding Silas thought good to abide there still. 35 Paul also and Barnabas continued in Antioch, teaching and preaching with many others the word of the Lord. 36 But after certain days, Paul said unto Barnabas, Let us return and visit our brethren in every city, where we have preached the word of the Lord, and see how they do. 37 And Barnabas counseled to take with them John, called Mark. 38 But Paul thought it not meet to take him unto their company, which departed from them from Pamphylia, and went not with them to the work. 39 Then were they so stirred, that they departed asunder one from the other, so that Barnabas took Mark, and sailed unto Cyprus. 40 And Paul chose Silas and departed, being commended of the brethren unto the grace of God. 41 And he went through Syria and Cilicia, establishing the Churches. |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by OkaiCorne(m): 7:44pm On May 08, 2018 |
brodalokie Carefully study Acts 15 v 3,7,12,14,17,19,23... Why did the Apostles refer to the Christians outside of Israel as gentiles? |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by brodalokie: 7:56pm On May 08, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:I am not getting any kick from this but I'll be happy to teach you the scripture. Please read Romans and tell me what you make of it... |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by OkaiCorne(m): 8:01pm On May 08, 2018 |
brodalokie:The part of your quote I bolded is totally inconsistent with the scriptures; 1) Mention where God included money as part of the items to be tithed. Or do you want me to quote Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29 again? 2) Mention where the gentiles and congregants of the early church gave tithes... Anything without scriptural backing means that you are adding to the word of God...and I hope you know the curses attached to someone who adds to the word of God! |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by OkaiCorne(m): 8:02pm On May 08, 2018 |
brodalokie:And where exactly in Romans does my answer to tithing lie in? Where in Romans did God mention tithes could be paid monetarily? Where in Romans was it mentioned that gentiles or Christians gave tithes? |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by brodalokie: 8:10pm On May 08, 2018 |
Romans 2 vs 25 For circumcision is indeed profitable if you keep the law; but if you are a breaker of the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. 26 Therefore, if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision? 27 And will not the physically uncircumcised, if he fulfills the law, judge you who, even with your written code and circumcision, are a transgressor of the law? 28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God. |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by OkaiCorne(m): 8:19pm On May 08, 2018 |
brodalokie:So how do you reconcile the part of the scripture you posted to Galatians 3 v 28? Galatians 3:28 New International Version (NIV) 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by OkaiCorne(m): 8:23pm On May 08, 2018 |
brodalokie:So how do you reconcile the part of the scripture you posted to Galatians 3 v 28? Galatians 3:28 New International Version (NIV) 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Bros...this thing is very straightforward. Outside of Israel, no one gave tithes. Also, in the early church, no where was it mentioned that the followers of Christ gave tithes... In the Old testament...no where did God instruct tithes to be paid monetarily. When God gave the instructions on tithing, He was fully aware that gold and silver exists. God knows the past, present and future...yet He never asked for gold or silver or money as part of the things to be tithed... So I am wondering if you know better than God that you should add to His words that 10% of monthly salary or profit is tithe. I am also wondering if you know better than God as to why He gave only the children of Israel the tithing commandment to follow! |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by brodalokie: 8:28pm On May 08, 2018 |
OkaiCorne:Are you showing off your cramming or search skills here? You can't be learning this way. Ask your pastor to explain that to you. Christians are the extension of Israel for your information. The original Jew (Israelites) are referred to as the Fathers and the Spiritual Jews (Christians) are the Children. Clearly you're a spiritual bastard lol |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by OkaiCorne(m): 8:39pm On May 08, 2018 |
brodalokie:I thought you wanted to discuss scriptures... We just started and you are talking of cramming and search skills? Do you even understand what you have been saying all the while? By the way, just to ensure this topic is not derailed... 1) Search through from Genesis to Revelation and tell us where God instructed tithes to be paid monetarily (gold, silver, precious stones, bronze, minted coins e.t.c). 2) Also tell us where gentiles and Christians gave tithes... |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by OkaiCorne(m): 8:43pm On May 08, 2018 |
brodalokie:If Christians are Spiritual Jews... then that means Paul was confused when he was writing Galatians 3 v 28? 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. On a side note...a Spiritual Bastard is someone who; 1) Knows the truth, but will twist it around for personal gain. 2) Add to God's word for personal gain. 3) Keep on preaching false doctrines with no reference whatsoever to the scriptures Answer the questions I have been asking you on tithes all this while so we know who the Spiritual Bastard truly is... |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by brodalokie: 8:48pm On May 08, 2018 |
You're a stranger to Christianity and I find this as an attack on the faith. Stop mentioning me... Or don't expect any reply from me again. I will allow the spirit to defend His word. |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by OkaiCorne(m): 8:53pm On May 08, 2018 |
brodalokie:Apparently...now we know you have no answers to my questions... Neither is there any scriptural backing for your false doctrine of monetary tithing... Now it becomes an attack on Christianity... Between you and Pastor Oritsejafor...I wonder who is worse |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by mikeaims: 12:35am On May 17, 2018 |
This tithing matter is simple to resolve. we just need some simple facts to help us out. Let those G.Os show us: 1. Verifiable historical evidences that Christians were mandated to pay tithes. 2. If the present jews in Isreal pay tithes. if they can't answer those questions then know that tithers had been fooled all along. |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by Prumartmedical: 8:17am On May 25, 2018 |
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| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by Auxigen(m): 9:26am On Jul 18, 2019 |
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| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by Kobojunkie: 10:01pm On Jul 21, 2020 |
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| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by Kobojunkie: 10:18pm On Jul 21, 2020 |
brodalokie:Below is the tithing law as defined in the Old Covenant... This is the law.... all pieced together, and the word of God commanding you to obey His commandment. Tell us what aspects you have obeyed in your years as a tither Leviticus 27 vs 30-34 ERVThis is what God told you to do with the Tithe He commanded of you. Numbers 18 vs 25-29 ERV Deuteronomy 14 vs 22 -29 ERV Deuteronomy 26 vs 12 - 15 ERVRemember what God said about His commandment and what blessings and curses come to those who obey OR disobey His commandments as Stipulated. Deuteronomy 30 vs 15-20 Jeremiah 7 vs 21- 23 |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by Kobojunkie: 10:18pm On Jul 21, 2020 |
DonBenny77:Below is the tithing law as defined in the Old Covenant... This is the law.... all pieced together, and the word of God commanding you to obey His commandment. Tell us what aspect you have obeyed in your years as a tither Leviticus 27 vs 30-34 ERVThis is what God told you to do with the Tithe He commanded of you. Numbers 18 vs 25-29 ERV Deuteronomy 14 vs 22 -29 ERV Deuteronomy 26 vs 12 - 15 ERVRemember what God said about His commandment and what blessings and curses come to those who obey OR disobey His commandments as Stipulated. Deuteronomy 30 vs 15-20 Jeremiah 7 vs 21- 23 |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by Kobojunkie: 10:23pm On Jul 21, 2020 |
obowunmi:Tithes should not be paid at all because it is not what God commanded at all. Below is the tithing law as defined in the Old Covenant... This is the law.... all pieced together, and the word of God commanding you to obey His commandment. Leviticus 27 vs 30-34 ERVThis is what God told you to do with the Tithe He commanded of you. Numbers 18 vs 25-29 ERV Deuteronomy 14 vs 22 -29 ERV Deuteronomy 26 vs 12 - 15 ERVRemember what God said about His commandment and what blessings and curses come to those who obey OR disobey His commandments as Stipulated. Deuteronomy 30 vs 15-20 Jeremiah 7 vs 21- 23 |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by Kobojunkie: 10:26pm On Jul 21, 2020 |
Akmukoro:Below is the tithing law as defined in the Old Covenant... This is the law.... all pieced together, and the word of God commanding you to obey His commandment. Tell us what aspect you have obeyed in your years as a tither Leviticus 27 vs 30-34 ERVThis is what God told you to do with the Tithe He commanded of you. Numbers 18 vs 25-29 ERV Deuteronomy 14 vs 22 -29 ERV Deuteronomy 26 vs 12 - 15 ERVRemember what God said about His commandment and what blessings and curses come to those who obey OR disobey His commandments as Stipulated. Deuteronomy 30 vs 15-20 Jeremiah 7 vs 21- 23 |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by Kobojunkie: 10:27pm On Jul 21, 2020 |
Iammercy2018:Tithing should not be practiced at all because it is not what God has commanded Christians to do. Below is the tithing law as defined in the Old Covenant... This is the law.... all pieced together, and the word of God commanding you to obey His commandment. Leviticus 27 vs 30-34 ERVThis is what God told you to do with the Tithe He commanded of you. Numbers 18 vs 25-29 ERV Deuteronomy 14 vs 22 -29 ERV Deuteronomy 26 vs 12 - 15 ERVRemember what God said about His commandment and what blessings and curses come to those who obey OR disobey His commandments as Stipulated. Deuteronomy 30 vs 15-20 Jeremiah 7 vs 21- 23 |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by Kobojunkie: 10:29pm On Jul 21, 2020 |
sunshineyellow:Below is the tithing law as defined in the Old Covenant... This is the law.... all pieced together, and the word of God commanding you to obey His commandment. Leviticus 27 vs 30-34 ERVThis is what God told you to do with the Tithe He commanded of you. Numbers 18 vs 25-29 ERV Deuteronomy 14 vs 22 -29 ERV Deuteronomy 26 vs 12 - 15 ERVRemember what God said about His commandment and what blessings and curses come to those who obey OR disobey His commandments as Stipulated. Deuteronomy 30 vs 15-20 Jeremiah 7 vs 21- 23 |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by Kobojunkie: 10:30pm On Jul 21, 2020 |
adedejisy:Below is the tithing law as defined in the Old Covenant... This is the law.... all pieced together, and the word of God commanding you to obey His commandment. Tell us what aspect you have obeyed in your years as a tither Leviticus 27 vs 30-34 ERVThis is what God told you to do with the Tithe He commanded of you. Numbers 18 vs 25-29 ERV Deuteronomy 14 vs 22 -29 ERV Deuteronomy 26 vs 12 - 15 ERVRemember what God said about His commandment and what blessings and curses come to those who obey OR disobey His commandments as Stipulated. Deuteronomy 30 vs 15-20 Jeremiah 7 vs 21- 23 |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by Kobojunkie: 10:33pm On Jul 21, 2020 |
djon78:Below is the tithing law as defined in the Old Covenant... This is the law.... all pieced together, and the word of God commanding you to obey His commandment. Tell us what aspect you have obeyed in your years as a tither Leviticus 27 vs 30-34 ERVThis is what God told you to do with the Tithe He commanded of you. Numbers 18 vs 25-29 ERV Deuteronomy 14 vs 22 -29 ERV Deuteronomy 26 vs 12 - 15 ERVRemember what God said about His commandment and what blessings and curses come to those who obey OR disobey His commandments as Stipulated. Deuteronomy 30 vs 15-20 Jeremiah 7 vs 21- 23 |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by Kobojunkie: 3:26am On Jul 22, 2020 |
brodalokie:Really? ![]() |
| Re: Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor: "Eat Your Tithe And Die Quick" by Kobojunkie: 12:39am On Jul 23, 2020 |
obowunmi:Done away with |
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