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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by okwadatigbogal: 5:50pm On Jun 02, 2018
Frankrobbn1:




I acted out of impulse. I am sorry I don't know it all Sir! I just felt the refusal could have been averted.



My dear. I'm sorry for my outburst. Just that I have been upset with the recent refusals I've been seeing.. Pls don't take it to heart. I know you were just trying to help

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by Omoarukheo(f): 6:53pm On Jun 02, 2018
nivlek000:



Hello Frank,

I feel you're being unduly defensive. It doesn't appear to me that the lady is blaming anyone. Yes you tried your best in helping her with her SOP and I trust she appreciated that. However, I don't see the point of your condescending tone or choice of words. She's clearly devastated she doesn't need this attitude from anyone. You're a great guy, you've been really helpful here; let's stick with that narrative.

Hi Guys!!! Another hopeful Hopeful here. TRV fall on us!

Thanks for this! I didn’t put the blame on anyone and I clearly stated that it was my sop, Mr frank I’m grateful for the help you rendered but I don’t think I need this now, Thanks all the same, I’ll do better next time

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by BRANDYAK: 7:29pm On Jun 02, 2018
okwadatigbogal:




Mr Knowitall Visa Officer. I have been so quiet on this thread but I have to reply this. This is the most proud, condescending and annoying reply I have seen here. There's really no known formular for this visa thing. We have seen ppl put up airtight applications but still were denied. We have seen those who didn't even submit Sop or some other documents and were approved. This thread is for sharing ideas and encouragement. The lady was probably devastated. That kind of crass reply is abhorrent, biko. You're not God and you don't know it all.
Lastly, I see people here asking others for help with writing sop. You are the only one who can write your own sop, because you understand your situation/condition. If at this stage of life, you can't write an sop for yourself in your own words, then you don't deserve a graduate degree. it's okay to ask for guidance though. My 2 cents

Please try to respect those who spend most of their time to carryout research to provide answers to people, you have been in the background collecting information from those who have decided to help, so you have no right whatsoever to call someone Mr know it all. My advice is, try to vet SOP or respond to questions then you will know what it means to degrade someone who was just trying to help

regards

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by goodnews1111: 8:03pm On Jun 02, 2018
Hi guys,I will be applying for TRV in a week time via paper route. Please am I to fill the forms online or by pen.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by WEIRDPC(m): 8:29pm On Jun 02, 2018
mightyola:
In writing SOP, for a PGC applicant. Should I mention my inability to apply for a Masters program as a result of my poor undergrad result.

Hello Mightyola,

I will not advise you to do that. Schooling in canada is not any easier. So if you cant get a good grade in your home country, you probably would appear like someone who cant in canada. i would suggest you state other reasons like looking for more skills or knowledge in that particular course. It is just a personal opinion.

Best wishes

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by WEIRDPC(m): 8:32pm On Jun 02, 2018
goodnews1111:
Hi guys,I will be applying for TRV in a week time via paper route. Please am I to fill the forms online or by pen.

Hello goodnews,

You dont fill with pen. You can download the latest version of pdf reader or adobe reader on your system

Download the form and fill with the laptop. However, you fill your questionaire with a pen.

Best

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by ladyb4sure(f): 8:38pm On Jun 02, 2018
Hi guys! Great job. Am looking at this school George Brown College for Pgd in Information technology analysis and business. They have campus in Toronto and Ontario and their fees seems so cheap.

Does any know any good info about the school? I intend applying two weeks time but I have to first get my certificates from.my school first.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by goodnews1111: 8:51pm On Jun 02, 2018
Thank you.
WEIRDPC:


Hello goodnews,

You dont fill with pen. You can download the latest version of pdf reader or adobe reader on your system

Download the form and fill with the laptop. However, you fill your questionaire with a pen.

Best
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by Ratawu: 8:55pm On Jun 02, 2018
Many applications for a temporary visa (TRV) to Canada are rejected because the applicants don’t have bonds strong enough to make them return to the home country.

The form letter of refusal from Canada also advises against re-applying unless the applicant has some new evidence. Since most applicants have done the best job they can with the first application, and have no new evidence to offer, so they give up.

An acquaintance who works wit VOs in a Canadian embassy has a different take on this: apparently it CAN be useful to immediately re-apply, with the same application and same evidence. Here`s why.

The average VO has something like 45 seconds to assess each application for a TRV. Why so many applications? Partly because travel agencies will submit multiple applications for a single client to many countries, hoping for at least one approval out of the many refusals.

So the overworked VO will routinely refuse applications unless there is a compelling reason to approve. But if the applicant re-submits, challenging the VO’s reasoning in a cover letter, but essentially drawing the VO’s attention to the strong evidence already presented in the original application, then the VO has to pay more serious attention, and the chances of approval rise significantly. Essentially the applicant is taking his application out of the big pile of applications in the first in-basket and putting it in the smaller pile for special VO consideration.

At least that’s what my “insider source” says. So, if you want a TRV, apply early, giving yourself enough time to re-apply. If you really want to make the best case, give yourself time to get the CAIPS notes after the first refusal, then address those VO concerns in the new cover letter.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by mcobex: 9:37pm On Jun 02, 2018
drhammed:


I guess you meant to say last 2yrs? No school will consider last 2semesters alone but consider last 2yrs of a 4yrs program and last 3yrs of a 5yrs program.
Years not semesters(my bad)

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by mcobex: 9:42pm On Jun 02, 2018
dozieihems:

Final two semesters is above 3.0 can I have your email address so u can guide me on schools to apply to thanks
I meant to say last 2 years not semesters.
Sorry I don't attend to personal messages for now as I am very busy, but feel free to ask your questions here.
NB: As for schools to apply to, you can google it and also contact the school you wanted to apply for the PGD programme and see if you will get MSc instead. Best of luck

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by mcobex: 9:49pm On Jun 02, 2018
CanadianNurse:
By the grace of God the boy don dey alright small now and will be more regular to contribute to the great forum
Where is mcobex Austinpee4 jnyuwa and my bosses
At last the ORACLE has showed up grin grin grin
How's Mapleland treating you bro? Good to hear from you again.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by odimbannamdi(m): 9:53pm On Jun 02, 2018
Phocusjosh:
Hello bro, sorry bro. From the correspondence letter, you were rejected based on purpose of visit and insufficient finance.

Firstly, to tackle purpose of visit, you have to write a very good statement of purpose because your undergraduate studies and employment are well related with your intended course of study. I will advise you explain into details why MEng Mech?, You will need to prove to the VO that your course has significant employment prospects in Nigeria, you will have to use this to prove your economic ties to Nigeria. Explain how exactly how MEng Mech will help you as a project officer. What is the economic opportunity you are trying to create and harness? Please be as specific as possible. Do some research into various aspects of mechanical engineering in Nigeria and specify how much that aspect of the economy is worth (in USD or CAD) and how exactly your Canada education would enable you to come back to Nigeria and revolutionalize your sector of interest. Go and do research online! Google for World Bank facts, or McKinsey, ADB facts, etc.

Secondly, insufficient finance, this is easy to tackle with well explained analysis of your financials. Create a spreadsheet or table detailing annual expenses vs funds available. This would be a concise summary of all your expenses, and all your sources of funds. It will make it easy for the VO to comprehend your finances. Also, ensure your sponsor declare the specific amount he's releasing for your studies and as well explain the sources of his income. He can as well state how he intends to cope financially with his family after the withdrawals of your tuition and living expenses. Basically, he should include all possible info that the VO may wonder about and back up with evidence.

Your GCMS will give you the exact reason(s) you were denied. Conclusively, follow your guts and involve God in your next application.

It shall end in praise wink smiley



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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by kylexy61(m): 9:59pm On Jun 02, 2018
CanadianNurse:
By the grace of God the boy don dey alright small now and will be more regular to contribute to the great forum
Where is mcobex Austinpee4 jnyuwa and my bosses

CanadianNurse!! Great to hear from you again. One of the few who has chosen to come back after landing in Cannyland.

How's Winnipeg my boss?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by Kemdy97: 10:02pm On Jun 02, 2018
Evening guys

Please what document do I need from my past employer to stand as a proof that I worked there

And what do I neeed from d construction co.pany am currently doing Internship with....?

I will appreciate a helpful response.. Thanks
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by Prudento: 10:14pm On Jun 02, 2018
Ratawu:
Many applications for a temporary visa (TRV) to Canada are rejected because the applicants don’t have bonds strong enough to make them return to the home country.

The form letter of refusal from Canada also advises against re-applying unless the applicant has some new evidence. Since most applicants have done the best job they can with the first application, and have no new evidence to offer, so they give up.

An acquaintance who works wit VOs in a Canadian embassy has a different take on this: apparently it CAN be useful to immediately re-apply, with the same application and same evidence. Here`s why.

The average VO has something like 45 seconds
to assess each application for a TRV. Why so many applications? Partly because travel agencies will submit multiple applications for a single client to many countries, hoping for at least one approval out of the many refusals. I

So the overworked VO will routinely refuse applications unless there is a compelling reason to approve. But if the applicant re-submits, challenging the VO’s reasoning in a cover letter, but essentially drawing the VO’s attention to the strong evidence already presented in the original application, then the VO has to pay more serious attention, and the chances of approval rise significantly. Essentially the applicant is taking his application out of the big pile of applications in the first in-basket and putting it in the smaller pile for special VO consideration.

At least that’s what my “insider source” says. So, if you want a TRV, apply early, giving yourself enough time to re-apply. If you really want to make the best case, give yourself time to get the CAIPS notes after the first refusal, then address those VO concerns in the new cover letter.

If they take 45 seconds to review eligibility, why does some eligible review last for over a month?

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by mcobex: 10:16pm On Jun 02, 2018
Kemdy97:
Evening guys

Please what document do I need from my past employer to stand as a proof that I worked there

And what do I neeed from d construction co.pany am currently doing Internship with....?

I will appreciate a helpful response.. Thanks
You don't need anything from your former company. Your present company should write a letter(intro letter) stating you are doing your internship with them and state if you are being paid or not.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by Kemdy97: 10:24pm On Jun 02, 2018
Thanks Oga me
mcobex:
You don't need anything from your former company. Your present company should write a letter(intro letter) stating you are doing your internship with them and state if you are being paid or not.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by odimbannamdi(m): 11:00pm On Jun 02, 2018
ladyb4sure:
Please I need school that accept 2.46cgpa embarassed embarassed going for PGD in any computer related course without requesting for test of English. Am so eager to start now hoping to join January section.

Please I need help.

Aunty, i hail o...u been dey groove for school shey? lol

Well, a test for english language (such as IELTS, TOEFl, etc) is a major admission requirement for most school.

But if your undergraduate education was done in english, you wont have to take any test for english language. Your alma mater would simply send an official letter to the school affirming that your were taught in english language and thus can comprehend it perfectly.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by odimbannamdi(m): 11:19pm On Jun 02, 2018
Asapant:
I was going through the thread and I noticed that most applicants were refused of their study visas based on the following grounds shorlisted on this post and this has given most of them sleepness night, some have decided to quit the Canadian dream and end up having the mindset that Canadian study visa is tough and can not be easily approved unless you use an AGENT, some even go as far as paying millions to AGENTS just to get their study visa. I must tell you that it is a lie, most agents even go as far as complicating issues for applicant, which most times lead to misrepresentation and a 5 years Ban. After reading this post, you have to get up to your feet , beat your chest and do things in the right way and get your study permit app approved Asap.

RECENT REFUSAL GROUNDS:

1-) Purpose of visit
2-) Current employment situation
3-) Personal asset and financial status.
4-) family ties in Canada or home country.

In this post I'll address the above reasons and give POSSSIBLE WAYS to tackle the concerns of the visa officer.

1-) PURPOSE OF VISIT -

It is important that your visit coincides with an important event in your life or the purpose of the visit can be reasonably explained in your SOP. If it is for study you must have qualifications in that field or have the expertise in that area. Most times, your job role or company should be relevant to previous studies and to your chosen field of study in Canada.
If you decide to change career path, it should be clearly stated on your SOP with compelling/strong/ and convincing reasons to why you decide to change a career path.

Your letter of intent should reflect the following and should be addressed in each paragraphs to avoid repetition.
1-) Describe your academic background briefly.
2-) Why you choose Canada not Nigeria.
3-) The school.
4-) The program of choice.
5-)How you intend to finance your studies in Canada without working.
6-) What you intend to achieve at the end of the program and how it might benefit you in the future.

Everything should point to 'studying in Canada' not working or visiting friends and family in Canada or securing a PR after completion of studies.

Address all academic backlogs, study gaps, study plans etc... on your SOP.


2-) CURRENT EMPLOYMENTSITUATION

Every embassy will like to satisfy themselves that the applicant has a gainful employment in their country of residence and that the prospects of getting a job when they loose their current one is high. That satisfies them that you won’t leave your job when you travel to their country. Canada’s High Commission is no exception. You need to prove to them that you’ve been working for at least 2 years continuously, you earn a good salary, say CAD$400- CAD$1,000 plus a month depending on the level of your education, you have leave to travel, and you are qualified for the job you are currently employed in. So add your CV, school certificates, previous and current job offer letters, leave letters, pay slips and introductory notes from your firm to evidence your employment.

3-) PERSONAL ASSET AND FINANCIAL STATUS

Like most embassies, the Canadian High Commission will also be interested in your finances. Show a 6-month bank statement or more for any Canada visa application; both current and savings accounts, showing your salaries or income from employment. If you have treasury bills, building society savings, mortgages, microfinance or credit union savings and the pass book or certificates, share investments in companies etc, add all to prove you have enough financial resources before and after your trip. There is no cut off bank statement figure. So try as much as possible to show your monthly inflow and outflow of salaries in your salary bank statement with a good closing balance as a proof of financial establishment.

4-)

FAMILY TIES IN CANADA OR HOME COUNTRY

Prospective travellers who were refused with this point wondered why they should have a family in Canada before being given the visa. Note that the full statement is “family in Canada OR family in your home country”. So its either you failed to prove each criterion or both criteria, that is, whether you have family ties in Canada or whether you have family ties to your home country. This is what you do :

Show sufficient ties to your home country i.e. what will compel you to return home?

1-) Do you have a spouse and kids(minors) and are you leaving them behind?
2-) Do you have elderly parents who depend on you?
3-) Do you own businesses/property that you need to continue managing?
4-) Do you have adequate funds?
5-) Do you have family members whom are not accompanying you to Canada?

All these mentioned are HOME TIES, so if you have any of the following listed, endeavor to show evidence to each of them and make sure you add it to your application.

#COPIED. referred back to Jan 7th 2018 at 10:14pm

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by odimbannamdi(m): 11:21pm On Jun 02, 2018
Yuyukoko:
Meanwhile I haven't applied yet,still gutless. Teach me guys, what should I do. I just returned from England 3momths ago, is it a medical report from there I should apply or Nigeria's?
Secondly, for a married person,do I need to submit my siblings and parents docx as tie or just my spouse's?
Can't wait for July when my bank statement can show 4months and I then apply- give em hot hot!
Oh Lord, not joking. Need to get my study permit approved!

lol...

baba, e be like na u Davido dey refer to in his "30billion for the account" song
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by odimbannamdi(m): 11:27pm On Jun 02, 2018
Ratawu:
Many applications for a temporary visa (TRV) to Canada are rejected because the applicants don’t have bonds strong enough to make them return to the home country.

The form letter of refusal from Canada also advises against re-applying unless the applicant has some new evidence. Since most applicants have done the best job they can with the first application, and have no new evidence to offer, so they give up.

An acquaintance who works wit VOs in a Canadian embassy has a different take on this: apparently it CAN be useful to immediately re-apply, with the same application and same evidence. Here`s why.

The average VO has something like 45 seconds to assess each application for a TRV. Why so many applications? Partly because travel agencies will submit multiple applications for a single client to many countries, hoping for at least one approval out of the many refusals.

So the overworked VO will routinely refuse applications unless there is a compelling reason to approve. But if the applicant re-submits, challenging the VO’s reasoning in a cover letter, but essentially drawing the VO’s attention to the strong evidence already presented in the original application, then the VO has to pay more serious attention, and the chances of approval rise significantly. Essentially the applicant is taking his application out of the big pile of applications in the first in-basket and putting it in the smaller pile for special VO consideration.

At least that’s what my “insider source” says. So, if you want a TRV, apply early, giving yourself enough time to re-apply. If you really want to make the best case, give yourself time to get the CAIPS notes after the first refusal, then address those VO concerns in the new cover letter.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by galala123(m): 11:28pm On Jun 02, 2018
Prudento:


If they take 45 minutes to review eligibility, why does some eligible review last for over a month?

@ratawu mentioned 45 seconds (not minutes). I guess Eligibility involves, background checks, health checks, etc which may not be directly done by the VO at the first stage.

It may be after an applicant has passed eligibility up to a certain level that VO may even finally assess the application. If background check reveals that an applicant is not eligible as a result of criminal inadmissibility, for instance, the VO needs not spend time on the application (that's if it gets to a VO!), however, if an applicant has passed up to a certain level, then the VO may now finally review to approve or deny based on other factors. Just guessing!
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by Frankrobbn1: 11:43pm On Jun 02, 2018
WEIRDPC,

Longest time bro! You've not been contributing to the forum lately. Hope all is well with you?

Stay safe and welcome back Bro!
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by JoseJonn(f): 12:03am On Jun 03, 2018
Ratawu:
Many applications for a temporary visa (TRV) to Canada are rejected because the applicants don’t have bonds strong enough to make them return to the home country.

The form letter of refusal from Canada also advises against re-applying unless the applicant has some new evidence. Since most applicants have done the best job they can with the first application, and have no new evidence to offer, so they give up.

An acquaintance who works wit VOs in a Canadian embassy has a different take on this: apparently it CAN be useful to immediately re-apply, with the same application and same evidence. Here`s why.

The average VO has something like 45 seconds to assess each application for a TRV. Why so many applications? Partly because travel agencies will submit multiple applications for a single client to many countries, hoping for at least one approval out of the many refusals.

So the overworked VO will routinely refuse applications unless there is a compelling reason to approve. But if the applicant re-submits, challenging the VO’s reasoning in a cover letter, but essentially drawing the VO’s attention to the strong evidence already presented in the original application, then the VO has to pay more serious attention, and the chances of approval rise significantly. Essentially the applicant is taking his application out of the big pile of applications in the first in-basket and putting it in the smaller pile for special VO consideration.

At least that’s what my “insider source” says. So, if you want a TRV, apply early, giving yourself enough time to re-apply. If you really want to make the best case, give yourself time to get the CAIPS notes after the first refusal, then address those VO concerns in the new cover letter.


Apt!!!
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by JoseJonn(f): 12:06am On Jun 03, 2018
Prudento:


If they take 45 minutes to review eligibility, why does some eligible review last for over a month?

Lol. Prudento ur blood is boiling....allow it cool biko. Its well.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by wealth360: 3:18am On Jun 03, 2018
kylexy61:


CanadianNurse!! Great to hear from you again. One of the few who has chosen to come back after landing in Cannyland.

How's Winnipeg my boss?
grin so easy to say. God will bring you down here safely IJN.

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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by Prudento: 4:48am On Jun 03, 2018
galala123:


@ratawu mentioned 45 seconds (not minutes). I guess Eligibility involves, background checks, health checks, etc which may not be directly done by the VO at the first stage.

It may be after an applicant has passed eligibility up to a certain level that VO may even finally assess the application. If background check reveals that an applicant is not eligible as a result of criminal inadmissibility, for instance, the VO needs not spend time on the application (that's if it gets to a VO!), however, if an applicant has passed up to a certain level, then the VO may now finally review to approve or deny based on other factors. Just guessing!

Good you're humble enough to admit you're just guessing. ��� A lil bit of a wild guess though. Seems like eligibility review and background checks are two df things, if the information at the candidate portal is anything to go by.

And if they do initial eligibility review and final one, why do they complete some in 24hrs? U no go leave those people?
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by mzhorlah(f): 7:41am On Jun 03, 2018
hello people, please I need help, I am a graduate of English and Education but I want to do my MSC in something pertaining to Human relation, is this possible, please tell me my chances
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by Nobody: 8:14am On Jun 03, 2018
mzhorlah:
hello people, please I need help, I am a graduate of English and Education but I want to do my MSC in something pertaining to Human relation, is this possible, please tell me my chances
.
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by goodnews1111: 8:38am On Jun 03, 2018
WEIRDPC:


Hello goodnews,

You dont fill with pen. You can download the latest version of pdf reader or adobe reader on your system

Download the form and fill with the laptop. However, you fill your questionaire with a pen.

Best
please I didn't see any quetionaire
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 14 by MeinKampf: 8:47am On Jun 03, 2018
BUHARIPLZDIE:

Don't even try it, the refusal letter will be big like a slate/chalkboard
This is not joke section. Why don't you tell the person why you think he/she will be refused instead of that cynical comment you thought to be funny?

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