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Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by Babagy823: 10:10am On Jun 03, 2018
why are christians so afraid of death? many christians go to church just to hear their pastor shout "you will never die this year/young" i am a muslim and i dont give a fvck about death, let it come anytime and i will embrace it willingly because its the will of God. thats why we dont do autopsy to find the cause of death, to what end since the deceased is not coming back? its a sin to keep a dead man and not bury him in time to meet with his lord. every death is the will of God. just do good, enjoy your life and wait for your time, i have never prayed not to die, infact i pray to die at the right time. thats the thinking of we muslims about death.

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Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by Harrynight(m): 10:12am On Jun 03, 2018
God do not CAUSE bad things to happen, but he ALLOW bad things to happen

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Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by dboyoji: 10:15am On Jun 03, 2018
Death is not the will of God but from the sin of Adam.

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Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by sirkingz455(m): 10:16am On Jun 03, 2018
ElsonMorali:


Blasphemy.

Every death no matter how gruesome is accommodated in God's will.

Nothing that happens in this life is outside the will of God.

That man is a fake. You better change your church. He doesn't know what he's speaking about.

To suggest that some things can happen outside of God's will is to suggest that God is not Omniscient or Omnipotent. That is blasphemy.
is a lie if your brother kill you with a gun now you say is God will now please don't deceive yourself please

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Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by 2019elections: 10:18am On Jun 03, 2018
If every death is the will of God, what about suicide?

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Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by peacengine(m): 10:18am On Jun 03, 2018
Babagy823:
why are christians so afraid of death? many christians go to church just to hear their pastor shout "you will never die this year/young"i am a muslim and i dont give a fvck about death, let it come anytime and i will embrace it willingly because its the will of God. thats why we dont do autopsy to find the cause of death, to what end since the deceased is not coming back? its a sin to keep a dead man and not bury him in time to meet with his lord. every death is the will of God. just do good, enjoy your life and wait for your time, i have never prayed not to die, infact i pray to die at the right time. thats the thinking of we muslims about death.

You must be looking forward to 70 virgins

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Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by AreaFada2: 10:19am On Jun 03, 2018
thesicilian:
scriptural backing?

Seconded.

Not everything that happens in this world is the will of God or remote-controlled by God.

Job in the Bible clearly shows it. There is always struggle between Good & evil. Even our African ancestors knew that long before Europeans came. Esu (devil) in charge of evil was even made a deity in the hope he could be pacified or manipulated to not allow evil or make him to visit evil only on the enemies. Pretty creative and philosophical in the absence of Western religious understanding of religion.

In the case of Job, God tolerated satan's punishment of Job. But Job as a righteous man had everything restored. It means the devil can visit evil including disease, bereavement, poverty, etc. Without it being the will God. It wasn't God's will even he tolerated it.

Unlike Job not everyone has the righteousness and might not be restored. However it shows that God can restore or save whoever he wants from the hands of satan.

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Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by peacengine(m): 10:21am On Jun 03, 2018
2019elections:
If every death is the will of God, what about suicide?

Ask them bro. A healthy child dying in his mother's womb nko, sometimes people reason with their anus
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by karlboss: 10:23am On Jun 03, 2018
ugjeks:
Guys, the first question here should be, what is the will of God? Did God design death for us? Or was it brought about by our own(Adam) doing?
There is a difference between 'allowing death' and 'willing it.' Will a father wish death on his child? But what if the child continues on a dangerous lifestyle.
The will of God for man is to live life everlasting and to be happy. God merely allows death to happen because He has power over death, just like the case of Christ death and resurrection.
The bible says that "the last enemy death will be brought to nothing" (1Cor 15:26)

Sorry I just felt like digressing a bit
I want to use your own Bible to tell you something different there is book called Esdras( though it was removed). He asked an Angel an interesting question. 2 Esdras 5 vs 43-44
I replied, but couldn't you have created all human beings those present, past, future so that they live at the same time, in that way you could have your judgement sooner

44
He answered the creation cannot move faster than the creator and besides the world pwouldn't have been able to hold everyone if everyone has been created the same time

This simply means death was in God's plan from the beginning

I always ask these question let us say Adam didn't eat the fruit and there is no sin, will lion eat grass because there is no death. Will human not eat meat

God created death for every living thing Adam sin did not bring death. The enemy didn't do anything, whether you live dangerous or holy we must die. Even if God and Satan forget your matter and you live for 1000 years you must still die.

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Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by CeeKay17: 10:24am On Jun 03, 2018
ElsonMorali:


Blasphemy.

Every death no matter how gruesome is accommodated in God's will.

Nothing that happens in this life is outside the will of God.

That man is a fake. You better change your church. He doesn't know what he's speaking about.

To suggest that some things can happen outside of God's will is to suggest that God is not Omniscient or Omnipotent. That is blasphemy.
Are you saying God intentionally created Adam & Eve and put the forbidden fruit in the garden, then it was his will for Adam to eat the fruit so he can curse mankind and make the world suffer the way it's suffering today
Are you also saying he created Lucifer and it was his will for Lucifer to rebel against him so he can throw him out and turn him to the devil?
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by gulfer: 10:25am On Jun 03, 2018
There is no leaf that falls from a tree without his knowledge.... embarassed embarassed
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by ollah2: 10:26am On Jun 03, 2018
ElsonMorali:


Blasphemy.

Every death no matter how gruesome is accommodated in God's will.

Nothing that happens in this life is outside the will of God.

That man is a fake. You better change your church. He doesn't know what he's speaking about.

To suggest that some things can happen outside of God's will is to suggest that God is not Omniscient or Omnipotent. That is blasphemy.




So when people die in religious places such as Mosques, churches, synagogues et al, it's Gods will? Or when they die on their way or when trhey just finished praying to Him?
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by CeeKay17: 10:26am On Jun 03, 2018
karlboss:


Sorry I just felt like digressing a bit
I want to use your own Bible to tell you something different there is book called Esdras( though it was removed). He asked an Angel an interesting question. 2 Esdras 5 vs 43-44
I replied, but couldn't you have created all human beings those present, past, future so that they live at the same time, in that way you could have your judgement sooner

44
He answered the creation cannot move faster than the creator and besides the world pwouldn't have been able to hold everyone if everyone has been created the same time

This simply means death was in God's plan from the beginning

I always ask these question let us say Adam didn't eat the fruit and there is no sin, will lion eat grass because there is no death. Will human not eat meat

God created death for every living thing Adam sin did not bring death. The enemy didn't do anything, whether you live dangerous or holy we must die. Even if God and Satan forget your matter and you live for 1000 years you must still die.

So God created Adam and intentionally made him eat the forbidden fruit so he can curse us?

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Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by DavidEsq(m): 10:33am On Jun 03, 2018
karlboss:

Proverbs 18vs14 your will to live can save you when you loose it your last hope is gone. This simply means that your purpose in live is to be alive. Finish.

When someone dies why do people say he has given up the ghost. When you give up nature takes you out. I can tell you more if interested. Death is not as bad as we think it to be
Since that's how u understand "giving up the ghost", so answer dis:
So before he gave up the ghost, was he holding onto the ghost and cld no longer hold it and decided to let go of it or as u put it, gave it up?
Since u said it's nature that takes one out, shebi boko haram, accident, murderous house wives, yahoo+ are also nature abi.
Olodo ni e!

Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by JourneytoEL(f): 10:35am On Jun 03, 2018
tbaby534:


So are you saying the wars and deadly diseases in this generation is God's Will? I dont know the God you serve but Yahweh is not a wicked God
read the books of Ezekiel, Isaiah and Jeremiah very well you will discover that God allowed serious wars,death and exiles to befall on the Israelites because that was the only way they could return back to serving him, Noah and the ark is also there for you, read also the book of revelations to see the plagues and wars to come in other to separate the chaff from the grains
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by DavidEsq(m): 10:38am On Jun 03, 2018
JourneytoEL:
read the books of Ezekiel, Isaiah and Jeremiah very well you will discover that God allowed serious wars,death and exiles to befall on the Israelites because that was the only way they could return back to serving him, Noah and the ark is also there for you, read also the book of revelations to see the plagues and wars to come in other to separate the chaff from the grains
Broda mi!, there is a world of difference between causing something and allowing it. Which one are u referring to as God's will?
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by mikeogb: 10:39am On Jun 03, 2018
Well I think we all have a timeline as suppose to when someone exits this planet (sure thing)which is God's will, what is not his will is when we now decide due to cut it short..
Someone with an ear piece on both ears gets crushed by a train behind..
Wife stabs husband due to frustrations...
Nigga gets drunk, drives himself, on the way home, crashes.....
Hell no,,,all these can't be his will for us to die this way,,but are we at some point going to die? Then hell ya, we'll are..
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by anaton(m): 10:41am On Jun 03, 2018
Samsimple:
On judgment day God would stationed about 10,000 angels to separate fight between Yahoo boys and white men

Plus anoda 50,000 angels to separate fight between Buhari and d whole Nigeria youth

What about IPOB & Nigeria Army AKA Zoo Army. grin
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by JourneytoEL(f): 10:46am On Jun 03, 2018
ollah2:





So when people die in religious places such as Mosques, churches, synagogues et al, it's Gods will? Or when they die on their way or when trhey just finished praying to Him?
before we were formed in the womb he knew us and when we would go and how, if you read the book of revelations 6:9-12,it talks about the souls of those who have been slain because of the Word all gathered at a particular place and asking for justice on those who killed them, God replied that justice cannot be done until all the souls who are to die because of the Gospel are COMPLETE. that is to show you they are already a specific number of souls marked to die for Christ, in our generation death might be seen as a big deal but the truth is it should be the happiest day of a Christian and the highest honor to be martyred for Christ if that is what you have been called to do.

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Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by ollah2: 10:50am On Jun 03, 2018
JourneytoEL:
before we were formed in the womb he knew us and when we would go and how, if you read the book of revelations 6:9-12,it talks about the souls of those who have been slain because of the Word all gathered at a particular place and asking for justice on those who killed them, God replied that justice cannot be done until all the souls who are to die because of the Gospel are COMPLETE. that is to show you they are already a specific number of souls marked to die for Christ, in our generation death might be seen as a big deal but the truth is it should be the happiest day of a Christian and the highest honor to be martyred for Christ if that is what you have been called to do.



Why would souls be marked to die for God? Especially is his religious houses or on the way from there or to the place?
Why would he allow sorrow to come to the families of the deceased just to prove a point or two?
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by God2man(m): 10:52am On Jun 03, 2018
No! It is a mysterious thing but there are something within a man that can deter mine it.

Your mouth, your choice, your will, and if you are careless.

Paul said, death for him is gain to him. To live is gain to Christ.

If you confess death regularly that is it.

If you choose to go to where they are trying to kill.
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by JourneytoEL(f): 10:53am On Jun 03, 2018
DavidEsq:

Broda mi!, there is a world of difference between causing something and allowing it. Which one are u referring to as God's will?
both, i'm not in a good place to post things, by tomorrow I will send you Bible quotes, p. S I'm a sis grin stay blessed
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by OkunrinMeta: 10:54am On Jun 03, 2018
englishmart:
only Muslims think this way. The thought of God is of good and not evil.

Even by biblical examples, God is responsible for a lot of deaths, even of young people. Death is not always a bad thing. That's what you need to understand. Sometimes death is the best thing that can happen to man.
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by nepapole(m): 10:55am On Jun 03, 2018
fisfat:


So for example, if a 16 or 18 year old dies, it’s the will of God? I don’t think so.

Sir, it's d will of God. If we say it's not, that means there is some other Power out there greater than or equal to God's (which is not possible). Only God has d sole decision of wat happens to his creatures. He gives and takes life whenever he Wills.
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by Toks2008(m): 10:56am On Jun 03, 2018
post=68130729:
Not every death is the will of God....

This is a True man of God.

More of these videos Op.

All I watched was a man advertising his book.

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Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by Masterclass32: 10:57am On Jun 03, 2018
Hmm...

Not every death is the will of God. If one is willfully towing the path of rebellion and refuses to change, especially after many corrections, God may remove His hand of protection and let the person suffer the consequences of their actions. Its not the will of God for this person to die but the person chose that path. God gave us freewill and does not interfere with our exercise of it. He told us to choose between life and death, though He'd rather we choose life. We enjoy the fruits of what we choose.
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by nepapole(m): 10:59am On Jun 03, 2018
englishmart:
only Muslims think this way. The thought of God is of good and not evil.
U are right sir. I am a Muslim but this should be the belief of every theist. You can't believe in a supreme being and still think he doesn't have control over all things. Death is sure for all of us, young or old at a certain time wich only the creator knws.

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Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by Toks2008(m): 11:00am On Jun 03, 2018
The will of GOD is clear and that is for us to live the fullness of our years.

The fullness here is very relative...Jesus lived the fullness of his years at 33 and Methuselah lived his at over 900years.

So if you are a believer in christ and you die young then it just might be his will but as an unbeliever,you are not under his umbrella and the devil can play catchy with your life so the early death of an unbeliever has nothing to do with God's will.

Isaiah 57:1-2 The righteous man perishes, and no one lays it to heart; devout men are taken away, while no one understands. For the righteous man is taken away from calamity. he enters into peace; they rest in their beds who walk in their uprightness
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by CAPSLOCKED: 11:05am On Jun 03, 2018
post=68130729:
Not every death is the will of God....

This is a True man of God.

More of these videos Op.


DOES GOD REALLY HAVE A WILL THEN? IF ANYTHING CAN ALTER GOD'S PLAN, WHY SHOULD WE TRUST GOD'S PLAN?

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Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by herraph: 11:08am On Jun 03, 2018
ElsonMorali:


Blasphemy.

Every death no matter how gruesome is accommodated in God's will.

Nothing that happens in this life is outside the will of God.

That man is a fake. You better change your church. He doesn't know what he's speaking about.

To suggest that some things can happen outside of God's will is to suggest that God is not Omniscient or Omnipotent. That is blasphemy.

I'm shocked Even a Muslim knows that not every death is the will of God.

Some death is not the will of God.

No wonder Muslim are gone far than xtian in Nigeria.

Don't let your pastor deceive u. Not every death is the will of God.
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by DavidEsq(m): 11:10am On Jun 03, 2018
JourneytoEL:
both, i'm not in a good place to post things, by tomorrow I will send you Bible quotes, p. S I'm a sis grin stay blessed
Before u post doz scriptures, cld u read Job 34:10?
Re: Pastor Sunday Adelaja: Can Early Death Of A Person Be The Will Of God? by herraph: 11:10am On Jun 03, 2018
CAPSLOCKED:



DOES GOD REALLY HAVE A WILL THEN? IF ANYTHING CAN ALTER GOD'S PLAN, WHY SHOULD WE TRUST GOD'S PLAN?

Was eve eating of the fruit in the garden part of God's will ?

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