Bros e. I hail. Mr Riofidelio sorry for posting ur number. And to d entire Jw community, sorry for attacking ur faith. Removetheturban was one of the most intelligent individual dat i av met on this forum and he made me glued to JW threads even though we disagree most times, we were following each other as friends and I do mention him to comment on topics I think he would find interesting. It's unfortunate he has left d forum sha. Like I told him, I have never turned back any JW member from my house, i give dem audience cos I go out to preach too. Finding out unbitchable who had been stalking me for months is JW changed so many things and it's part of the reason I started attacking his faith. I retract even curse word I used for Jesus said we should bless and curse not. This thread has affected my devotional life and I need some time to get everything back together.

You are not doing any favours for God or for man or for any jw. Only for yourself. As for your aim to discredit JW, I can assure you that the same situation that occurred with those who tried to discredit Jesus Christ and his apostles will be your portion. It happens all the time. It's your right to choose

Bros e. I hail. Mr Riofidelio sorry for posting ur number. And to d entire Jw community, sorry for attacking ur faith.

Removetheturban was one of the most intelligent individual dat i av met on this forum and he made me glued to JW threads even though we disagree most times, we were following each other as friends and I do mention him to comment on topics I think he would find interesting. It's unfortunate he has left d forum sha. Like I told him, I have never turned back any JW member from my house, i give dem audience cos I go out to preach too.
Finding out unbitchable who had been stalking me for months is JW changed so many things and it's part of the reason I started attacking his faith. I retract even curse word I used for Jesus said we should bless and curse not. This thread has affected my devotional life and I need some time to get everything back together

Na so dem go dey talk - I am attacking you because of this, I am attacking you because of that! No one wants to show their real driving force...

Did the threads below also affect your devotional life?

Obontami oko ashewo hahahaha. Seriously na ashii u go marry last last

What a Thread!


Thanks @ Salvation101 and Everybody that took the option of Peace.

We might not agree with each other based on scriptures, the Scholarly scripts were written by Men and its evident Men will always question Scriptures and have their interpreted understanding. Either way, God is God and thats constant.



I followed all through, amazing way to make peace. One love to everybody.

Words are powerful,I hail all JW members , Pentecostals, etc, this thread is a beauty on its own.


Love you all..... Thanks for teaching Peace at Last despite differences.

nutarious:
What a Thread!

Thanks @ Salvation101 and Everybody that took the option of Peace.
We might not agree with each other based on scriptures, the Scholarly scripts were written by Men and its evident Men will always question Scriptures and have their interpreted understanding. Either way, God is God and thats constant. I followed all through, amazing way to make peace. One love to everybody.
Words are powerful,I hail all JW members , Pentecostals, etc, this thread is a beauty on its own.
Love you all..... Thanks for teaching Peace at Last despite differences.

Peer moral support.
They need It...after all those laundry.....

Hairyrapunzel:


The jw relatives chose not to talk to their disfellowshipped family members because of religion a man made cult called watchtower organization
Do you know that it's only cult leaders that will tell it's members to cut off communication with erring members?

No be only pray for relatives that have decided to shun their disfellowshipped family and friends. Biggest joke of the century.

James 5:14,15

enimooko:
Peer moral support.
They need It...after all those laundry.....

Eni to moo koitiikoo! It's obvious you are another Nathaniel in the making in whose heart "there's no deceit" John 1:47. We all have hearts so allow each person to decide within himself/herself what's next to do,Jehovah ONLY sent US to make the presentations,it's not due to your righteousness that you're able to discern and "perceive" what billions can't see. Psalms 115:4-8 Remember the good news is mainly for those who are rightly disposed for everlasting life. Act 13:47,48 Jesus wasn't cracking jokes when He said "my sheep knows my voice"(John 10:27) So don't bother whether men reason with you or they "stylishly" excused themselves,you just do what Jesus commanded(Matthew 10:3-22,24:14,28:19,20) to make sure your hands are clean from the blood of all men. Ezekiel 3:17-21 Compare to Act 20:26 Agape my brother!

enimooko:


Na so dem go dey talk - I am attacking you because of this, I am attacking you because of that! No one wants to show their real driving force...

Did the threads below also affect your devotional life?

It's not easy when there are so many teachers with various doctrines everywhere yet all forming alliance against "the city of refuge". You shouldn't expect those outside the gates see to anything good in running into it. Numbers 35:15 But let's just borrow part of Jesus' last words on the torture stake! (Luke 23:34)

Riofidelio:
James 5:14,15

Come and see another shocker

Bible discussion of shunning in 1 Corinthian's 15 and 2 John is limited to just the following areas; Fornication, Greed, idolatry, Revilers, Practicing Drunkenness, Extortion and One who does not remain in the teaching of the Christ.

You see that you guys don't practice what even bible teaches? Well I know you guys disfellowship those who done don't obey gb rules. It shows that you guys see those 8 old men without future ambition who reside in new York as Christ.

Riofidelio:
James 5:14,15

Come and see the reasons you guys disfellowship. Majority are not even disassociation and expelling offences in the Bible.



1. Adultery (sexual intercourse with a person other than your marriage mate), includes
Abandoning wife and eloping with another woman -
w79 11/15 31-2, w76 p.728
Planned adultery to break Scriptural marriage ties -
w83 3/15 p.29
Remarriage without Scriptural permission - w56 10/1
p.597
Polygamy - jv 176
Dating a person not legally divorced - ks91-E p.135

2. Apostasy - w83 4/1 pp.22-4, km 8/80 pp.1, 4. includes;
Rebellion against Jehovah's organization - w63 7/1
Promoting sects - it-2 886


3. Associating with disfellowshipped people including;
Friends - ks91-E p.103, w81 9/15 pp.25-6, w55 10/1 p.607
Family - ks91-E p.103

4.Blood and blood transfusions - w61 1/15 ks91-E p.95, jv p.183-4

5.Drug use - ks91-E p.96

6.Drunkenness - ks91-E p.95, it-1 656

7.Dishonest business practices - w63 7/1, w86 11/15 14
Employment violating Christian principles - km 9/76 p.6, km 2/74
Working for any religious organization - ks91-E p.95
Working in a gambling institution - ks91-E p.136
Selling tobacco - ks91-E p.96
Contract work at a military establishment

8.False worship. Includes;
Attending another church ks91-E p.94
Following mourning customs that involve false worship - w85 4/15 p.25

9.Fornication it-1 863

10.Bestiality - w83 6/1 p.25

11.Incestuous marriage - w78 3/15 p.26

12. Artificial insemination and surrogate motherhood.
"True Christians, therefore, avoid surrogate motherhood as well as any procedures that involve the use of donated sperm, eggs, or embryos" g04 9/22;
"Artificial insemination of a married woman by a donor other than her husband makes her guilty of adultery" g74 8/8 p.28

13. sexual abuse of children - g93 10/8 p.10

14. Reviling - ks91-E p.94, w96 7/15 pp.17-18; it-1 p.991; it-2 p.802

15. Fraud - ks91-E p.94, om pp.142-3

16. Gambling or related employment - w80 9/1, ks91-E p.136

17. Gluttony - w86 5/1

18. Greediness, this in used to include;
gambling ks91-E p.95
extortion ks91-E p.95, w89 1/15 22, it-1 p.789
greed in relation to bride-price: w98 9/15 p.25

19. Homosexuality - w83 6/1 pp.24-6

20. Idolatry - w52 3/1 p.138

21. Loose conduct - ks91-E pp.93, 96, w83 3/15 p.31, w73 9/15 p.574, it-2 p.264, ks91-E p.93, w83 3/15 p.31, w73 9/15 pp.574-6, w97 9/1 p.14, it-2 p.246.
This includes;
Sexual perversion
transvestism/sex change - cg p.98
Disregard for Jehovah's moral standards
Disrespect, disregard or even contempt for standards, laws and authority
Rather than restricted to the usual definition of sexual perversion, the Watchtower defines "loose conduct" as including "disrespect to elders". This enables this term to be used to disfellowship for a wide range of offences not elsewhere covered, and as such is used to cover all manner of sins, such as refusal to cease fellowship with disfellowshipped people, or even being contemptuous in a judicial meeting where no other sin can be proven.


22. Lying - ks91-E p.94, g00 2/8 p.21

23.Non neutral activities (involvement in politics and the military) - ks91-E p.96

24. Military service and non military service including working casual work (certain civilian work has recently been made a conscience matter w96 5/1 p.20) - ks91-E p.96

25.Obscene speech - ks91-E p.95

26. Parents condoning immorality - w56 p.566

27. Political involvement, including voting or holding a political card in Malawi - ks91-E p.96 (w99 11/1 p.28 made voting a conscience matter)

28. Porneia. Includes oral and anal sex between married couples, mutual masturbation between persons not married to each other, homosexuality, lesbianism, fornication, adultery, incest, and bestiality. - ks91-E p.93

29. Slander - ks91-E p.94, w63 7/1, w89 10/15 p.14, om p.142

30. Smoking or selling tobacco - km 2/74, ks91-E p.96
Spiritism (includes yoga w02 8/1 p.22) - w55 10/1 p.607

31. Stealing, thievery - om pp.142-5, ks91-E p.94

32. Subversive activity - w95 10/1 p.31

33. Uncleanness

34.Sexually perverse practices within marriage, such as oral and anal sex - w83 3/15 p.31
Heavy petting and breast handling - ks91-E p.92
Touching of sexual parts - ks91-E p.91
Practice of viewing abhorrent Pornography - w2012 3/15 p.31

35.Violation of secular law if flagrant attitude - w86 10/1 p.31

36.Violence, extreme physical abuse, fits of anger - ks91-E p.96, w75 p.287, g01 11/8 p.12
Includes Boxing w81 7/1 pp.30-1, ks91-E p.142

37.Wilful non support of family, endangerment of mates spirituality - w88 11/1 pp.22-3, km 9/73 p.8, ks91-E p.95

38. Worldly celebrations such as Christmas - ks91-E p.95 (It appears celebrating birthdays is not a reason to be disfellowshipped)

Riofidelio:
James 5:14,15

Your 8 old men in new York can't even use the bible to defend their disfellowshipping offence. They have to use their magazines to justify their non biblical doctrines.

Hairyrapunzel:

Speculation everywhere and everyday. What is your proof that proponents of trinity changed it?

You guys slander trinitarians a lot.
If the word is a god like you say, is the word a true god or a false god?

For how long will u keep dodging the question, "what did U exchange your brain for?" U be SERIAL LIAR & the devil himself dey envy U as your lie lie done pass him level.. U see solid proof , Yet sharp sharp, your brain done twist am. to "speculation everywhere". "Jesus is a god." ( Ps82:6. John10:34. Acts28:6. Prov8:22-30. Heb1:1-3. 1Cor11:3). Your foolish rants on NL can never change what God's word the Bible says. Abegi ,shift !!!!!

OneJ:

For how long will u keep dodging the question, "what did U exchange your brain for?" U be SERIAL LIAR & the devil himself dey envy U as your lie lie done pass him level.. U see solid proof , Yet sharp sharp, your brain done twist am. to "speculation everywhere". "Jesus is a god." ( Ps82:6. John10:34. Acts28:6. Prov8:22-30. Heb1:1-3. 1Cor11:3). Your foolish rants on NL can never change what God's word the Bible says. Abegi ,shift !!!!!

I didn't exchange my brain for anything or with anybody. You think I am like you that exchanged your brain with your governing body's own?
What is the proof that proponent of Trinity changed it? You just speculate and assume. Those bible passages are not proof. Prove your case. You speculate things on your magazines then force bible passages to conform to mere speculations. We need proof not watchtower leaders speculations.

Hairyrapunzel:


You people keep assuming. How will you go to someone's house you don't even know and go in unannounced? After your leaders finished feeding you with lies you will come here to repeat the trash.
Organization that harbours pedophiles and rapists and shields them from authorities isn't God's organization at all.

You don't report or even disfellowship jw pedophiles and rapists yet you disfellowship people for smoking a non biblical and non criminal offence.
Be shielding evil people and criminals because they are jehovah's witnesses.

You might even be a pedophile or rapist sef

Hairpunsel please whoever you are I want to be friends with you. Am Maobi Carl
Former jw turned atheist.
I'll be glad to work with you.
We will love you to join our ex jw whatsapp support community

https:///2Y0asVkkAyb3u1rrMWRJVS

Hairyrapunzel:

Your 8 old men in new York can't even use the bible to defend their disfellowshipping offence. They have to use their magazines to justify their non biblical doctrines.

Please let's be friends.
Am not really active on nairaland due to secular and business engagement..
You know it's almost impossible to talk reason into an active Jehovah's witness cus they vehemently believe jw is absolute truth . If he's awoke then is more efficient, at least he won't skip your mind blowing jw criticism. I love you already.
Keep it up

Hairyrapunzel:

Come and see the reasons you guys disfellowship. Majority are not even disassociation and expelling offences in the Bible.



1. Adultery (sexual intercourse with a person other than your marriage mate), includes
Abandoning wife and eloping with another woman -
w79 11/15 31-2, w76 p.728
Planned adultery to break Scriptural marriage ties -
w83 3/15 p.29
Remarriage without Scriptural permission - w56 10/1
p.597
Polygamy - jv 176
Dating a person not legally divorced - ks91-E p.135

2. Apostasy - w83 4/1 pp.22-4, km 8/80 pp.1, 4. includes;
Rebellion against Jehovah's organization - w63 7/1
Promoting sects - it-2 886


3. Associating with disfellowshipped people including;
Friends - ks91-E p.103, w81 9/15 pp.25-6, w55 10/1 p.607
Family - ks91-E p.103

4.Blood and blood transfusions - w61 1/15 ks91-E p.95, jv p.183-4

5.Drug use - ks91-E p.96

6.Drunkenness - ks91-E p.95, it-1 656

7.Dishonest business practices - w63 7/1, w86 11/15 14
Employment violating Christian principles - km 9/76 p.6, km 2/74
Working for any religious organization - ks91-E p.95
Working in a gambling institution - ks91-E p.136
Selling tobacco - ks91-E p.96
Contract work at a military establishment

8.False worship. Includes;
Attending another church ks91-E p.94
Following mourning customs that involve false worship - w85 4/15 p.25

9.Fornication it-1 863

10.Bestiality - w83 6/1 p.25

11.Incestuous marriage - w78 3/15 p.26

12. Artificial insemination and surrogate motherhood.
"True Christians, therefore, avoid surrogate motherhood as well as any procedures that involve the use of donated sperm, eggs, or embryos" g04 9/22;
"Artificial insemination of a married woman by a donor other than her husband makes her guilty of adultery" g74 8/8 p.28

13. sexual abuse of children - g93 10/8 p.10

14. Reviling - ks91-E p.94, w96 7/15 pp.17-18; it-1 p.991; it-2 p.802

15. Fraud - ks91-E p.94, om pp.142-3

16. Gambling or related employment - w80 9/1, ks91-E p.136

17. Gluttony - w86 5/1

18. Greediness, this in used to include;
gambling ks91-E p.95
extortion ks91-E p.95, w89 1/15 22, it-1 p.789
greed in relation to bride-price: w98 9/15 p.25

19. Homosexuality - w83 6/1 pp.24-6

20. Idolatry - w52 3/1 p.138

21. Loose conduct - ks91-E pp.93, 96, w83 3/15 p.31, w73 9/15 p.574, it-2 p.264, ks91-E p.93, w83 3/15 p.31, w73 9/15 pp.574-6, w97 9/1 p.14, it-2 p.246.
This includes;
Sexual perversion
transvestism/sex change - cg p.98
Disregard for Jehovah's moral standards
Disrespect, disregard or even contempt for standards, laws and authority
Rather than restricted to the usual definition of sexual perversion, the Watchtower defines "loose conduct" as including "disrespect to elders". This enables this term to be used to disfellowship for a wide range of offences not elsewhere covered, and as such is used to cover all manner of sins, such as refusal to cease fellowship with disfellowshipped people, or even being contemptuous in a judicial meeting where no other sin can be proven.


22. Lying - ks91-E p.94, g00 2/8 p.21

23.Non neutral activities (involvement in politics and the military) - ks91-E p.96

24. Military service and non military service including working casual work (certain civilian work has recently been made a conscience matter w96 5/1 p.20) - ks91-E p.96

25.Obscene speech - ks91-E p.95

26. Parents condoning immorality - w56 p.566

27. Political involvement, including voting or holding a political card in Malawi - ks91-E p.96 (w99 11/1 p.28 made voting a conscience matter)

28. Porneia. Includes oral and anal sex between married couples, mutual masturbation between persons not married to each other, homosexuality, lesbianism, fornication, adultery, incest, and bestiality. - ks91-E p.93

29. Slander - ks91-E p.94, w63 7/1, w89 10/15 p.14, om p.142

30. Smoking or selling tobacco - km 2/74, ks91-E p.96
Spiritism (includes yoga w02 8/1 p.22) - w55 10/1 p.607

31. Stealing, thievery - om pp.142-5, ks91-E p.94

32. Subversive activity - w95 10/1 p.31

33. Uncleanness

34.Sexually perverse practices within marriage, such as oral and anal sex - w83 3/15 p.31
Heavy petting and breast handling - ks91-E p.92
Touching of sexual parts - ks91-E p.91
Practice of viewing abhorrent Pornography - w2012 3/15 p.31

35.Violation of secular law if flagrant attitude - w86 10/1 p.31

36.Violence, extreme physical abuse, fits of anger - ks91-E p.96, w75 p.287, g01 11/8 p.12
Includes Boxing w81 7/1 pp.30-1, ks91-E p.142

37.Wilful non support of family, endangerment of mates spirituality - w88 11/1 pp.22-3, km 9/73 p.8, ks91-E p.95

38. Worldly celebrations such as Christmas - ks91-E p.95 (It appears celebrating birthdays is not a reason to be disfellowshipped)

All these could lead to disfellowshiping if you don't "humble yourself enough" when called on for "judicial questioning" . All you have to do when caught is to admit the error and beg the "elders or watchtower" leaders for forgiveness...Not even Jesus or Jehovah they claim to worship.
This process makes me wonder if they even believe in Jehovah

Join the movement .
Only for awoke jws and former jws.

You're welcome in advance



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OneJ:

For how long will u keep dodging the question, "what did U exchange your brain for?" U be SERIAL LIAR & the devil himself dey envy U as your lie lie done pass him level.. U see solid proof , Yet sharp sharp, your brain done twist am. to "speculation everywhere". "Jesus is a god." ( Ps82:6. John10:34. Acts28:6. Prov8:22-30. Heb1:1-3. 1Cor11:3). Your foolish rants on NL can never change what God's word the Bible says. Abegi ,shift !!!!!

You will bring one verse from a whole chapter. Fear and shame did not allow you to put down the whole chapter as the proof because you know those chapters talk about something different. Your leaders use verses out of context and force you guys to believe. You know when you don't believe what they teach you will be considered an apostate.

OneJ:

For how long will u keep dodging the question, "what did U exchange your brain for?" U be SERIAL LIAR & the devil himself dey envy U as your lie lie done pass him level.. U see solid proof , Yet sharp sharp, your brain done twist am. to "speculation everywhere". "Jesus is a god." ( Ps82:6. John10:34. Acts28:6. Prov8:22-30. Heb1:1-3. 1Cor11:3). Your foolish rants on NL can never change what God's word the Bible says. Abegi ,shift !!!!!

Jehovah will protect you my brother, because we're all avoiding the "Disfellowshiped" as he's not willing to remain in the organization,not ready to forgo and of all the works Jesus gave His followers to do he's not doing any than to criticize just one single organization "ONLY those who excommunicate him" Well he's progressing as he has found a new family "ATHEISTS" he will be their PASTOR to educate them on all the DISADVANTAGES of JWs organization then he'll follow Atheists to heaven as he wish to go but can't found a religious group, I think Atheism will pay him much more than any religious group but the irony of it is that he doesn't want to belong to any perhaps he'll consider them. Certainly the fear of Jehovah is the beginning of wisdom! Proverbs 9:10

Riofidelio:
Jehovah will protect you my brother, because we're all avoiding the "Disfellowshiped" as he's not willing to remain in the organization,not ready to forgo and of all the works Jesus gave His followers to do he's not doing any than to criticize just one single organization "ONLY those who excommunicate him" Well he's progressing as he has found a new family "ATHEISTS" he will be their PASTOR to educate them on all the DISADVANTAGES of JWs organization then he'll follow Atheists to heaven as he wish to go but can't found a religious group, I think Atheism will pay him much more than any religious group but the irony of it is that he doesn't want to belong to any perhaps he'll consider them. Certainly the fear of Jehovah is the beginning of wisdom! Proverbs 9:10

I don't argue with cultist.
Can one be saying love your enemies and love thy neighbours as yourself still be saying "hate" or " shun " people who disagrees with ur sect of Christianity?

You're just too silly and been stupid and am really doing u a favour replying .
You think that your version of Christianity which is a version of three abrahamic religion, that is also one of numerous religions is the truth...You're so delusional and spiteful.

Riofidelio:
Jehovah will protect you my brother, because we're all avoiding the "Disfellowshiped" as he's not willing to remain in the organization,not ready to forgo and of all the works Jesus gave His followers to do he's not doing any than to criticize just one single organization "ONLY those who excommunicate him" Well he's progressing as he has found a new family "ATHEISTS" he will be their PASTOR to educate them on all the DISADVANTAGES of JWs organization then he'll follow Atheists to heaven as he wish to go but can't found a religious group, I think Atheism will pay him much more than any religious group but the irony of it is that he doesn't want to belong to any perhaps he'll consider them. Certainly the fear of Jehovah is the beginning of wisdom! Proverbs 9:10

Ignorant person. Atheists don't have pastors. God is love. There is no fear in love. If you have to fear God, then He is not the Love he claims to be.

Just say it's the fear of getting slaughtered in your imaginary upcoming Armageddon and not fear of jehovah.

As we all consider our beliefs one thing that jws hate to examine is a simple question.

What is we're are wrong? ..

What if Jehovah doesn't exist cus all u see are your governing body giving "orders" taking ur Jehovah's position.
What if Christianity is false?
What if Catholism right ?
What if Islam is the right course ?
What if there's no God?
What if there's God but he doesn't intercede with us


But no no for jw ...they are absolutely convinced that the governing body are leading them to an invincible authoritarian deity ...and look what the 've become "extremists"

No one can save them unless by themselves

@damarious: Wetin u find come this thread? U wan join dem SERIAL LIARS dey lie for here, even when u know say JW is not a cult. U were disfellowshipped & now a self confessed atheist. A dog returns to its vomit. 2pet2:18-22. Abegi,shift!!

OneJ:
@damarious: Wetin u find come this thread? U wan join dem SERIAL LIARS dey lie for here, even when u know say JW is not a cult. U were disfellowshipped & now a self confessed atheist. A dog returns to its vomit. 2pet2:18-22. Abegi,shift!!

See someone that his truth today will be a lie in the nearest future calling someone a serial liar. Lol

JWs fucking disgusting self righteous pieces of shit
Look down on others but are not different at all hemselves, wicked deceitful souls, I just smh at the ones in these parts of the world utter complete rubbish just take a look at them here cursing people

"Gege se gege" what a perfect combination? Atheist and Disfellowshiped! They are worshipping "god or gods" together but with no specific guidance as in counseling agreed upon so that they may be governed by one single "driving force" whereas under COMPULSION, they must be subjected to intelligent physical creatures like them "human governments".Moses's Genesis account said Adam and Eve wanted (1)Their eyes to be opened(Always seeing things their own way) (2)To become like God(Each being supreme on his/her own)(3)Knowing good and bad(Independently setting standards for themselves)Genesis 3:4,5 If we're telling them they must accept Jesus as Lord(To teach US how we'll always agreeing to God's standards) John 8:28,29 Satan often stand by them to form defensive arguments just to say NO to the Messiah(Christ)! certainly the Bible is just a perfect book for all those who desires WISDOM! Proverbs 2:1-5

TheLoser:
JWs fucking disgusting self righteous pieces of shit
Look down on others but are not different at all hemselves, wicked deceitful souls, I just smh at the ones in these parts of the world utter complete rubbish just take a look at them here cursing people

Don't mind US, we're REPENTING sinners trying really HARD to put away the old personality(colossians 3:9 compared to Romans 7:21-25) but at the same time we must warn fellow sinners regarding the LITTLE we know! Ezekiel 3:18 And whoever disregards the warnings we try to stay away from them to avoid being influenced! 1Christians 15:33. Please that's the difference between JWs and none JWs,we're not self righteous,wicked,deceitful or haughty. We're just normal people like you but with a sense of belonging to someone we must always be subjected even when it's not convenient to do so! Matthew 26:41

Riofidelio:
"Gege se gege" what a perfect combination? Atheist and Disfellowshiped! They are worshipping "god or gods" together but with no specific guidance as in counseling agreed upon so that they may be governed by one single "driving force" whereas under COMPULSION, they must be subjected to intelligent physical creatures like them "human governments".Moses's Genesis account said Adam and Eve wanted (1)Their eyes to be opened(Always seeing things their own way) (2)To become like God(Each being supreme on his/her own)(3)Knowing good and bad(Independently setting standards for themselves)Genesis 3:4,5 If we're telling them they must accept Jesus as Lord(To teach US how we'll always agreeing to God's standards) John 8:28,29 Satan often stand by them to form defensive arguments just to say NO to the Messiah(Christ)! certainly the Bible is just a perfect book for all those who desires WISDOM! Proverbs 2:1-5

So now watchtower takes it upon themselves to be God. Interesting
They even tell their followers what to expect in the new system.
So because Adam and eve did what your organization accuses them of doing to God, your organization's leaders now says that their followers should not think independently of what they have been thought by their leaders. Interesting.
It's like your leaders are now God and their followers are now Adam and eve. Very interesting

So you will dash your God given brain to 8 men in new York to think for you because they (8 men in new York) told you that Adam and eve thought independently so you should not think for yourselves because they (8 old men) have become God. Interesting.

Riofidelio:
Don't mind US, we're REPENTING sinners trying really HARD to put away the old personality(colossians 3:9 compared to Romans 7:21-25) but at the same time we must warn fellow sinners regarding the LITTLE we know! Ezekiel 3:18 And whoever disregards the warnings we try to stay away from them to avoid being influenced! 1Christians 15:33. Please that's the difference between JWs and none JWs,we're not self righteous,wicked,deceitful or haughty. We're just normal people like you but with a sense of belonging to someone we must always be subjected even when it's not convenient to do so! Matthew 26:41

So it is non jws that are self righteous, wicked, deceitful and haughty? Black and white thinking at it's peak.
God's commands are not burdensome. Anything that will cause burden, inconvenience and requires you not to think independently is bondage and its a cult

Jehovah's witnesses stands out as the ONLY Christian organization worldwide.Obviously that's a presumptuous assertion? Well to solve the mystery let's define Christianity! Christianity isn't about perfection but "the ability to humbly LISTEN attentively when others POINT out the ERROR in our THOUGHTS or ACTIONS,ACCEPT counseling for CORRECTION and readiness to make AMENDMENTS" Jehovah decided to destroy all the Israelites and start all over with ONLY Moses in the wilderness due to their(Israelite's) obstinate stubbornness, HE spoke to Moses concerning HIS thoughts but can you imagine what happened? Moses reminded Jehovah of HIS great name that could be tarnished if HE didn't take them as a people to Canaan and Jehovah reasoned with Moses a mortal man! Numbers 14:11-25 Well we are HIS witnesses( Isaiah 43:10-12) and so we're ever ready to agree with whoever is able to give US convincing evidence that our thoughts or actions are wrong but we won't just join the confused crowds whose ideas varies with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines and theories out of intimidation! Exodus 23:2

Hairyrapunzel:


So it is non jws that are self righteous, wicked, deceitful and haughty? Black and white thinking at it's peak.
God's commands are not burdensome. Anything that will cause burden, inconvenience and requires you not to think independently is bondage and its a cult

2John 10,11

Riofidelio:
2John 10,11

All non jws are wicked because 8old men in new York constantly feed you with shit. Brainwashed he goat.

Come and see Jesus teaching.

Jesus commanded that we not judge but love all, particularly those we consider our enemies.

Luke 6:27-37 "But I say to YOU who are listening, Continue to love YOUR enemies, to do good to those hating YOU, to bless those cursing YOU, to pray for those who are insulting YOU. To him that strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also; and from him that takes away your outer garment, do not withhold even the undergarment.Give to everyone asking you, and from the one taking your things away do not ask [them] back. Also, just as YOU want men to do to YOU, do the same way to them. And if YOU love those loving YOU, of what credit is it to YOU? For even the sinners love those loving them.And if YOU do good to those doing good to YOU, really of what credit is it to YOU? Even the sinners do the same.Also, if YOU lend [without interest] to those from whom YOU hope to receive, of what credit is it to YOU? Even sinners lend [without interest] to sinners that they may get back as much. To the contrary, continue to love YOUR enemies and to do good and to lend [without interest], not hoping for anything back; and YOUR reward will be great, and YOU will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind toward the unthankful and wicked. Continue becoming merciful, just as YOUR Father is merciful. Moreover, stop judging, and YOU will by no means be judged; and stop condemning, and YOU will by no means be condemned."


You choose to follow the magazine teaching of 8 old men in new York rather than follow Jesus. I am happy because people are seeing the weird non biblical teaching of your gb that you guys are forced to follow.
Jws call non jws wicked whereas they hide paedophillia making pedophilles elders later on.

You choose to disfellowship someone who doesn't agree with gb non biblical doctrines yet you view pedophilles and rapists as friends and even give them privileges.

Cultist

Riofidelio:
Jehovah's witnesses stands out as the ONLY Christian organization worldwide.Obviously that's a presumptuous assertion? Well to solve the mystery let's define Christianity! Christianity isn't about perfection but "the ability to humbly LISTEN attentively when others POINT out the ERROR in our THOUGHTS or ACTIONS,ACCEPT counseling for CORRECTION and readiness to make AMENDMENTS" Jehovah decided to destroy all the Israelites and start all over with ONLY Moses in the wilderness due to their(Israelite's) obstinate stubbornness, HE spoke to Moses concerning HIS thoughts but can you imagine what happened? Moses reminded Jehovah of HIS great name that could be tarnished if HE didn't take them as a people to Canaan and Jehovah reasoned with Moses a mortal man! Numbers 14:11-25 Well we are HIS witnesses( Isaiah 43:10-12) and so we're ever ready to agree with whoever is able to give US convincing evidence that our thoughts or actions are wrong but we won't just join the confused crowds whose ideas varies with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines and theories out of intimidation! Exodus 23:2

God did not destroy the world during Jesus time. Yet some 8 old men who reside in new York and say they are uninspired and fallible and are prone to errors in doctrinal matters and organizational direction think that God will destroy the world and kill 8 billion people so that the 8 million who belong to their business/publishing company called watchtower organization can inherit earth and peoples property. They have been waiting for over 140 years.