edi287:

Dude is mixing an 8 and a 10 up. Maradona and Zidane must have been an 8 to him

LMAO! You are seriously clowning yourself here. You clearly know nothing about football.
When you have a CAM 8, you don't need an advanced role CM .
in 4-4-2 You have One DM 2 CMs and/or a CM and CAM/SS and a Striker.
Hence Zidane's and Maradona's advanced roles.
Football has evolved, nobody plays 4-4-2 anymore.

andrew444:


What same level? a draw in a friendly match?

This same mexico beat croatia in 2014 world cup,the same team you could not beat,and mind you the same croatia has a younger modric and mandzukic then,there was also perisic there.

This same mexico that brazil could not beat on their home soil in 2014 when they played a goaless draw with the host nation.

As far as i am concerned they are better than us for the past 6 years.

thats how they keep making invalid points in the name of criticism.

goldfish80:

Well, I actually belive in friendlies. The current Nigerian team as a case study never convinced in their friendlies and now those tipid performances are being replicated in the main event.

Dont judge by friendlies world cup is the real deal,brazil could not beat mexico at last world cup and mexico won croatia 3-1

Mujtahida:

thats how they keep making invalid points in the name of criticism.

Lol

Mickael2:



brother not every formation has a CAM. In fact Barca's formation does not exactly have one. in a 4-3-3 formation you cannot have an 8, rather you have a double 10 or a double 4, Barca played with a double 4 in most cases but it was a hybrid with Xavi frequently changing it to a double10 while attacking. You only have an 8 in some formations not all

LMAO!!!!! You guys keep clowning yourselves.
Check my last post yes, not all formations have CAM. Check what i wrote!
But for your info I have been a Barca fan for well over 18 years, I am even a member of their forum and I can tell you Iniesta is a CAM
Coutinho was bought to play as a CM and displace the unskillful Rakitic, but he couldn't play the role, because he kept attacking, hence his switch to Iniesta's role... In the forum we all refer to Don Andres as a CAM..

forgiveness:


So you have your cliques here and if anybody doesn't belong or doesn't support your clique is Osu caste away, ba!?

Oga! It is not as if most of those your clique get brain pass but it is just dat your clique are static in the state of equilibrium.

Chriskel has no clique on this thread

Anyone who has followed his comments knows he is a lone ranger. He says whatever about whoever, he only agrees with you when you agree with him. He also has a thing for using over the top words and doesn't particularly take corrections. It also doesn't help that the guy no too get balance, he is here and there, so he is incapable of having a clique

phreakabit:


LMAO! You are seriously clowning yourself here. You clearly know nothing about football.
When you have a CAM 8, you don't need an advanced role CM .
in 4-4-2 You have One DM 2 CMs and on SS and a Striker.
Hence Zidane's and Maradona's advanced roles.
Football has evolved, nobody plays 4-4-2 anymore.

So Ozil is an "8" in a 4-2-3-1? What is Ramsey and Lampard in a 4-3-3?

goldfish80:
This is the same Mexico who were on our level some years ago. This same Mexico struggled to get a draw against Stephen Keshi team, look at them making nonsense of Germany while we are here having roforofo fight over Mikel and why he was not at fault for creating anything.

Exactly. Mexico that was once on our level. That team has greatly progressed

Mexico needs to be more clinical in front of goal.

Im loving the fight between those two youngsters, Lozano and Kimmich. Bench of talents

phreakabit:


LMAO! You are seriously clowning yourself here. You clearly know nothing about football.
When you have a CAM 8, you don't need an advanced role CM .
in 4-4-2 You have One DM 2 CMs and on SS and a Striker.
Hence Zidane's and Maradona's advanced roles.
Football has evolved, nobody plays 4-4-2 anymore.

Oh and Xavi is not a "10" in a 4-3-3. That's the real argument

edi287:

So Ozil is an "8" in a 4-2-3-1? What is Ramsey and Lampard in a 4-3-3?

What do you think Wilshere plays ?
Why do you think Ozil plays advanced when Wilshere plays and Ramsey plays as a support striker?
Ever heard of the term free role?

Russia 2018 General titbits


The last time Germany went behind to Mexico at HT in a WC match was in 1998 and Germany still went on to win that game.

Will today be different?

Can Mexico end Germany's unbeaten World cup run since their 1-0 loss to Spain in SA 2010?

I think with the way those fullbacks (Kimmich and Plattenhardt) are bombing up the pitch so carelessly, and at same time, exposing their two slowbie CBs when mexico hit them on the counter, Germany's run is under threat.

Marco Reus just entered the fray.


Brilliant football I see...

andrew444:


Dont judge by friendlies world cup is the real deal,brazil could not beat mexico at last world cup and mexico won croatia 3-1

You cannot rule out friendly matches with a stroke of pen. France were not so good in friendlies and it showed in their first game in Russia. Germany weren't convincing in their friendlies and you are seeing how they are struggling today.

Look... Lol... Just end it okay. You are really really missing the point. Allow me to focus on this game abeg. Lol

somehow:
we played the same formation with the Croats yesterday, please how many of their attacks was started by their RB/LB?

edi287:

Oh and Xavi is not a "10" in a 4-3-3. That's the real argument

Xavi is the 10!
Thiago plays the exact role Xavi plays and he is currently Bayern's and Spain's 10.
They are deep lying PLAYMAKERS. . . emphasis on PLAYMAKER.
A CM balances and coordinates
A CAM creates chances, and acts as an interface.

Sadiq was originally invited for the Atletico clash. I am certain that all the players that played in the olympics is known to Rohr.

andrew444:


Lol 50 man invisible list wey we go see.

35 man invisible list wey we no see.

na so so guest una dey guest who dey there

KevinDein:
Can't just help but noticed that pound for pound, player for player, these Mexicans aren't superior to the Super Eagles. But the gap in quality of play is just too wide. They just outplayed the defending champions and could have easily been 2 or 3 goals up while we couldn't even force a save out of Subasic.

I'm sorry but I think the difference is coaching.

thank you my bro. that is why i dont subscribe to this idea that we have an average team.yes it is true but see mexico are they fielding world renowned names?

roy keane as a studio analyst said at that nigeria had no fight in them. international media described our performance as limp.

My fellow eagulians.

It's very obvious we don't deserve to qualify from our group.

The passion we lacked against Croatia can't suddenly return against Iceland. For where!!!

Right now, pinnick should start scouting for the right coaches for all our age-grade teams to try and revamp our football.

Some players have obviously overstayed their welcome in our team. The mentality of sure first team shirt led us to this quagmire we currently find ourselves.

Because "some big boys" were assured of first team shirt, these guys refused to improve on their game. It showed in their shambolic displays both for club and country.

Now, that evil small demon we allowed to fester has come back to bite us in the ass.

It's now obvious our boys forgot the reason they went to Russia.

They thought football was played only on the skin (via fashion) and on the virtual pages of social media. When other serious countries were trying to improve, our boys were increasing social media presence. If I were Rohr, it will be banned forthwith.

Rohr, Rohr, Rohr...

I was actually toying with the idea this morning that you may be suffering from early onset Alzheimer's.

You seem to forget so quickly the right tactics to use after we played several friendly matches in quick succession. When we finally get booted out at the group stages, I'm so sure you'll be sacked. Yes, I support it before your negative and backward mindset rubs off on our players.

Now I know why ekong and balogun play for low tier teams. And why Rohr sought after akpoguma and udhokai (not sure about the spelling). These two guys are no less than 6ft2 inches yet they can get their heads to the ball in attacking or defending set-pieces. Haaaa. What a waste of God-given height. This is the kind of height I begged baba God for to noavail. Had I being blessed with it, I'd have fulfilled my dream of playing as a point guard professionally in the NBA for the Pistons.

Amaju pinnick. You are a blessing to Naija football. No other sports administrator has done half of what you did for these over-fed fake footballers. Yet, this is how they choose to repay you. Kai. Sir, you didn't deserve what you got yesterday against the croats. May God vindicate your good work one way or the other.

My fellow passionate fans, please lower your expectations, these ones didn't come to play ball. They only came to model and Slay on Twitter.

Mickael2:



brother not every formation has a CAM. In fact Barca's formation does not exactly have one. in a 4-3-3 formation you cannot have an 8, rather you have a double 10 or a double 4, Barca played with a double 4 in most cases but it was a hybrid with Xavi frequently changing it to a double10 while attacking. You only have an 8 in some formations not all

Thanks sir. I once argued this with someone.

safarigirl:
how many goalies save potential own goals?

What did Enyeama do when Yobo helped France score against us?

I have never seen a goalie save an own goal

the person u quoted did not watch d match coz the ball was goin wide until it touched the leg of etebo.
i have seen own goals saved but it is rare like 1 in 20 own goals

MetalJigsaw:
Exactly. Mexico that was once on our level. That team has greatly progressed

We were evenly matched 4yrs ago in that friendly in USA. Pound for pound, player for player.

phreakabit:

Xavi is the 10!
Thiago plays the exact role Xavi plays and he is currently Bayern's and Spain's 10.
They are deep lying PLAYMAKERS. . . emphasis on PLAYMAKER.
A CM balances and coordinates
A CAM creates chances, and acts as an interface.

A 10 refers a trequestira which Xavi isn't. Yes I know Xavi is a playmaker but he isn't a 10. He's a deep lying playmaker but not a 10. He is much closer to a Regista than a 10 because he dictates from Deep. Does Xavi play higher than Iniesta for barca?

Is anyone currently watching the German game? Where the hell did our passion go? After the Saudis, people are saying we're the worst team...

God punish you. Dem swear for you. Do not try shit with me motherfucker.
You can now see who the domesticated baboon is. My knowledgeable brothers are schooling you miserable self

phreakabit:


You are a clown.
Iniesta is an 8 in the 4-3-3 formation
You have a DM Busquets , A CM Xavi and CAM Iniesta stop reasoning like a domesticated baboon( I am sorry for insulting baboons with this comparison) and go get informed before coming to test your superior.

tbaba1234:


You mean the game where Ebuehi was carrying an injury In all the other friendlies, he has offered far more than Shehu. Shehu was poor in most friendlies.

i weak when i saw that comment. i have not blamed shehu nor called for ebuehi even though i am a big fan of ebuehi. in fact i challenged those saying ebuehi would have done better than shehu. it is obvious that once some of us make up our minds about certain players nothing will change that opinion. this is the second time mickael2 is saying ebuehi didnt offer much in the match against serbia and i think he's being deliberately misschievous.

The referees always bottle it when it comes to making game Changing calls against the so-called bigger nations. Entirely possible that that penalty awarded against Nigeria yesterday wouldn't have been given if it happened at the other end.

Mexico were denied a blatant penalty

Nigerian Team can't play with their life on pitch just the way the mexicans are doing right now!
That why i love watching any of their game

goldfish80:

You cannot rule out friendly matches with a stroke of pen. France were not so good in friendlies and it showed in their first game in Russia. Germany weren't convincing in their friendlies and you are seeing how they are struggling today.

France where not so good in friendlies but they won their first game? Are you expect france to win Australia 4-0?

phreakabit:

What do you think Wilshere plays ?
Why do you think Ozil plays advanced when Wilshere plays and Ramsey plays as a support striker?
Ever heard of the term free role?

Ozil is an AM aka a 10. Jack Wilshere when he starts is a CM. In Arsenal's traditional 4-2-3-1, Ozil is the AM, Ramsey is the CM aka B2b aka an 8 and Xhaka is a Regista.
Just because Ramsey makes 3rd man late runs into the box doesn't mean he's a support striker.

If only you took my advise. you actually missed mine a long time ago.

TheSuperNerd:
Look... Lol... Just end it okay. You are really really missing the point. Allow me to focus on this game abeg. Lol

andrew444:


France where not so good in friendlies but they won their first game? Are you expect france to win Australia 4-0?

How did their victory come about?was it not a fluke goal and a soft penalty they won the game with? Do you know how heavily critical the French public are of this present team and manager?
Pogba is under heavy fire from the French media for the limp performance against Australia. Bros, let's not derail this thread.

I hope our Eagles are watching this match
The way the Germans are pressing is the same way we need to press against Iceland next Friday.

Kudos to Mexico for having great defence.