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EgunMogaji:
I have to say that it’s refreshing to see “structure” in a Nigerian business.

radautoworks:
Gladly.

When we were considering coming back home three years ago, we paid a one month visit. In that month, i discovered that everyone from my parents to friends and family had cards parked that had not been driven because they could not be repaired. One of my mom's cars was parked for the whole visit for a simple alternator! When they did buy parts, it was a gamble if they were counterfeit. If the part failed, they were on their own and simply had to purchase new parts. There was no warranty or return.
Then they bought name brand tires from a name brand distributor to discover that they were expired tires that had been restamped with new dates!

My father used to take his vehicle to the dealer and kept up with maintenance. Imagine my surprise when I found out they had replaced the wheel sensors on his one year old vehicle to the tune of 240k in parts only! This along with things like spark plugs, etc on a car that still has under 30,000 miles three years later. Imagine my further surprise when we took apart the car and found out that most of the work that supposedly been done on that car was never done!

Then we found out that the dealerships charge for dealer parts and frequently go to Ladipo to source the parts! And even then, still no warranty on the work done. Then we find out that a lot of people with premium cars would actually rather containerize their cars and ship them over to Europe for repair and then have them returned here!

Needless to say, any of this issues would lead to a massive lawsuit elsewhere and we were stunned. We decided that we could at least provide the bare minimum that we were used to having owned a shop in the US for over 15 years and my husband being a Master Tech with 35+ years experience.

Basic test, look under your vehicle and look at your oil or fuel line. Chances are it has been cut and spliced since even a Mercedes dealership did not have the $2 tool required to simply unlock the line and instead splice the lines to drain. We found this out when my husband went to mercedes to purchase the tool to do work on his car and they had no idea what his was talking about. A tech then pulled him to the side and informed him that was standard practice.

Long winded but I hope that answers your question.

erico2k2:
The Bolded does not happen, tyres do not have expiring date. Rather it is measured by wear and tear, you said you lived in the states, has anyone ever stopped you or anyone you know to check the manufacturing date of your tyre?

thebigkendo:
So why the restamping of the date? Probably for the fun of it?

erico2k2:
The Bolded does not happen, tyres do not have expiring date. Rather it is measured by wear and tear, you said you lived in the states, has anyone ever stopped you or anyone you know to check the manufacturing date of your tyre?

EgunMogaji:
Apologies to Madam but I need to address my friend Mr. Erico2K2 on this subject.

Oga, she is absolutely correct.

"Several European vehicle manufacturers of high-performance sports cars, coupes and sedans identify that "under no circumstances, should tires older than 6 years be used" in their vehicle owner's manual. However, it should be noted that European recommendations must include driving conditions that include roads like the German Autobahn, which allows vehicles to be legally driven at their top speeds for extended periods of time.

While American driving conditions don't include the high-speed challenges of the German Autobahn, Chrysler, Ford Motor Company and General Motors have joined their European colleagues by recommending that tires installed as Original Equipment be replaced after six years of service.

It is important to take into account Original Equipment tires are mounted on wheels and put into service right after being received by vehicle manufacturers, so their calendar age begins immediately. However, the same cannot be said of tires properly stored in a tire manufacturers' warehouse or in Tire Rack distribution centers before they go into service.

The current industry association recommendations regarding inspecting and replacing tires due to age originate outside the United States.

The British Rubber Manufacturers Association (BRMA) recommended practice, issued June 2001, states, "BRMA members strongly recommend that unused tyres should not be put into service if they are over six years old and that all tyres should be replaced ten years from the date of their manufacture.""

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=138

I only but my tires here form TireRack.Com, they are a huge company and ships thousands of tires per week so I am ensured that the tires they sell are fresh.

erico2k2:
I agree with all what you said, if you remember we had this talk B4, waht I was saying in a short sentence is this, there is no expiry dates on tyres.Moreso this was why I asked if they check for expiry dates on one's car in the US cos they dont in the EU we only measure depth of thread.Also during ur yearly test we call MOT here do you guys get to fail the test as regards age of tyres? or rather wear and tear?

EgunMogaji:
They do not check for age of tires nor do they even check for depth here in California. The only check we do here is for emissions.

I take it upon myself to ensure that the tires on my fleet are as fresh as possible. Manufacturers, be it of milk or tires, put a manufactured date for a reason.

Yes, we did hash this out before and I think like then we'll just agree to disagree

Next debate, "Do Engine Oil Have An Expiration Date?" but that's for another thread.

Apologies Madam, my sidetrack is over.

Piyke:
Hi Radautoworks,

Do you have brake parts cleaner? What brand and cost? Can you send to Abuja?

SpaceAngel:
How much will it cost to diagnose noise from suspension of 2012 Highlander?

erico2k2:
The Bolded does not happen, tyres do not have expiring date. Rather it is measured by wear and tear, you said you lived in the states, has anyone ever stopped you or anyone you know to check the manufacturing date of your tyre?

EgunMogaji:
Apologies to Madam but I need to address my friend Mr. Erico2K2 on this subject.

Oga, she is absolutely correct.

"Several European vehicle manufacturers of high-performance sports cars, coupes and sedans identify that "under no circumstances, should tires older than 6 years be used" in their vehicle owner's manual. However, it should be noted that European recommendations must include driving conditions that include roads like the German Autobahn, which allows vehicles to be legally driven at their top speeds for extended periods of time.

While American driving conditions don't include the high-speed challenges of the German Autobahn, Chrysler, Ford Motor Company and General Motors have joined their European colleagues by recommending that tires installed as Original Equipment be replaced after six years of service.

It is important to take into account Original Equipment tires are mounted on wheels and put into service right after being received by vehicle manufacturers, so their calendar age begins immediately. However, the same cannot be said of tires properly stored in a tire manufacturers' warehouse or in Tire Rack distribution centers before they go into service.

The current industry association recommendations regarding inspecting and replacing tires due to age originate outside the United States.

The British Rubber Manufacturers Association (BRMA) recommended practice, issued June 2001, states, "BRMA members strongly recommend that unused tyres should not be put into service if they are over six years old and that all tyres should be replaced ten years from the date of their manufacture.""

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=138

I only but my tires here form TireRack.Com, they are a huge company and ships thousands of tires per week so I am ensured that the tires they sell are fresh.

erico2k2:
I agree with all what you said, if you remember we had this talk B4, waht I was saying in a short sentence is this, there is no expiry dates on tyres.Moreso this was why I asked if they check for expiry dates on one's car in the US cos they dont in the EU we only measure depth of thread.Also during ur yearly test we call MOT here do you guys get to fail the test as regards age of tyres? or rather wear and tear?

erico2k2:
Madam no vex oh na our way in teh Auto section frm nothing we learn smthing.
baba tyre depth is a big thing here in the Uk, you can get points on your licence if your tyre wear below the legal limit.The police can just stop you on the highway and measure it also you can fail MOT cos of it.we all know how to check am with coins women sef sabi
PS,Engine oil in shelf or inside car?

radautoworks:
They don't check that in Texas. At annual inspection maybe but it's really about emissions here.

What is OBD II?

The second iteration of the OBD standard, i.e., An enhanced iteration of the OBD standard (capability-wise and standardization-wise)

Before OBD II, different manufacturer had different connectors, different pinouts, different electrical signaling protocols, and different messaging formats, non-standard DTCs.

In other words, you had purchase a different scan tool for every make of vehicle - imagine the cost implications for technicians and their shops in the days prior to OBD II

OBD II is an enhanced diagnostic monitoring tool that is integrated into vehicle PCM or ECU

OBD II allows your PCM or ECU to provide real-time data on its operations

Your PCM or ECU can generate a standardized series of diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs) which helps tremendously in the detection and remediation of faults in the vehicle

OBD II started life around 1994.

OBD II became mandatory in 1996 for all cars meant for the American market

It is basically an emissions standard and was initially designed for the reporting of vehicle emission status, but manufacturers latched onto the standard making it the de facto diagnosis and reprogramming protocol

If your vehicle's emission levels are greater than 1.5 times the originally certified emissions level, it with output a diagnostic trouble code (DTC).

The OBD standard was driven largely by the California Air Resources Board (CARB)'s mission of improving the quality of the environment - hence the statement that it was basically an emissions standard.

OBD II was built from the ground up sense failures in vehicle emissions control systems that would result in increased emission (read that to mean) pollution levels.

These failures could be electrical, chemical or mechanical.

With OBD II, if all systems (electrical, mechanical) except the catalytic converter are functioning perfectly, then there is a problem. A chemical failure. What chemical failure? A catalytic converter failure who is not doing its work.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXchXMVteyk

And what is the work of a catalytic converter? To chemically purify the air that passes through it! This failure is enough to cause the PCM/ECU to output a code.

This was not the case with OBD I, a chemical failure would not lead to a MIL!

The take-home lesson - OBD I brought drivability to the fore. OBD II brings emission (pollution) levels to the fore.

OBD II will however also output codes related to drivability - but that is not the primary reason why it is monitoring vehicle systems!

What this means is that irrespective of what you think or your friends and neighbors think, if your car was built to this standard, you are driving a modern car! smiley

Brother and Sister, if your technician does not understand this language, you are in big trouble.

If your vehicle is a post 1996 vehicle. If your technician says don’t worry about the MIL, you are in even bigger trouble, because the car is telling you I got an issue, I need a checkup and you are ignoring it.

If your MIL was deleted, by your or the person who sold the car to you, then you know who your enemy is, how you intend to deal with him, well, I’ll leave that to you!


Got questions on OBD II? We will try to answer them in a down-to-earth manner so that anyone can understand!

radautoworks:
Actually, tires are no good after a certain age so technically, while they are not stamped with expiration dates, tires with older manufacturing dates are no good any more. The tires were bought by mother who knows nothing about cars so she didn't know to check.

radautoworks:
If the repair is done with us, diagnosis is actually free. Otherwise, it is one hour of labor= N5,000.

radautoworks:
Yes we do. Many types actually. We could send to Abuja though it would be our first sale out of state. Do you have a preferred courier who can pick it up?

CRC Non-Flammable Brakleen - Cleans all ABS sensors, discs, drums, cylinders, pads & shoes, 19 oz aerosol can http://weblink.carquest.com/acl/?mfgName=CRC&partNumber=05089 N2,920 per can

http://weblink.carquest.com/acl/?mfgName=WES&partNumber=W5089 N1,825 per can

CARQUEST Wearever Non-Chlorinated Brake Parts Cleaner - Professional strength - Dissolves and removes dirt, grease, oil and other contaminants, 14 oz aerosol can, sold by each http://weblink.carquest.com/acl/?mfgName=WES&partNumber=W7340 N1,460 per can

CRC Non-Chlorinated Brake Parts Cleaner - Cleans all ABS sensors, discs, drums, cylinders, pads & shoes, 14 oz aerosol can http://weblink.carquest.com/acl/?mfgName=CRC&partNumber=05088 N3,285 per can

Piyke:
Many thanks. Will let you know once I'm ready

erico2k2:
hmmm well when you put it like that U r right, but you see this argument has ben going on for God knows in loads of threads around the world, Tyre manufacturers say go with wear indicators, tyre fitters say go with age limit, who do you listen to? In the EU we check for thread wear and the tyre marker as a means of deciding if a tyre is road worthy. If your thread goes to that level even if your tyre was made last night, you will get points in ur licence.
@ EgunMogaji
I believe this was where we got our wires tangled when I was talking about fairly used tyre market in the UK.U remember I said its a big mkt here in the EU.
In the Uk after seat belt, the next safety check is your tyre thread limit. If you look closely all tyres have a wear indicator, look at yours this morning closely you will find it.

radautoworks:
Tires are made with organic products. They deteriorate over time whether you use it or not. Like EgunMogagi said, anything over six years old used or not is unacceptable.

radautoworks:
Also know that if you are a registered repair shop, you actually get business to business pricing.

thebigkendo:
Is the Shop Open tomorrow?

radautoworks:
Yes we are M-F for now......

Piyke:
Many thanks. Will let you know once I'm ready

radautoworks:
Also know that if you are a registered repair shop, you actually get business to business pricing.

uwemjack:
They have MAF sensor cleaner too

uwemjack:
They have MAF sensor cleaner too

erico2k2:
@ The bolded, I think you are wrong there,I have been to one of thier factory cos of work, nearest to organic is syntetic and natural rubber and Plasticizers.organic materials where used in tyres like 40 years ago, I doubt if any is used as we speak.

thebigkendo:
Is the Shop Open tomorrow?

Piyke:
Show off
In fact, I have to visit this shop when next am in Lagos!

mexxy1:
I'm not in Lagos. Can you help me get one and send to me in PH. I need one and I've been unable to find here though I just saw it on Konga but, not so sure if it's really available.