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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 10:46pm On Jul 01, 2018
Henry240:


I really don't like the design.

Does it have a gun? 30 or 25mm?

Armed version has a 20 mm cannon plus the usual rockets, guided missiles etc. Cannon in nose...difficult to spot immediately.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Xbee007(m): 10:49pm On Jul 01, 2018
Henry240:


I really don't like the design.

Does it have a gun? 30 or 25mm?
According to Wikipedia, it has;
Guns: GI-2 20 mm cannon
Hardpoints: 6 with provisions to carry combinations of

Missiles: Mokopa anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM),
Bombs: Mk 81 250 lb. or Mk 82 500 lb. general-purpose bombs
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Xbee007(m): 10:51pm On Jul 01, 2018
ssaengine:


Armed version has a 20 mm cannon plus the usual rockets, guided missiles etc. Cannon in nose...difficult to spot immediately.
Is the cockpit armored?
Does it emergency parachuting system?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:51pm On Jul 01, 2018
ssaengine:


Armed version has a 20 mm cannon plus the usual rockets, guided missiles etc. Cannon in nose...difficult to spot immediately.
OK, thanks.

It's armament is pretty standard, like what you have in other modern light attack/utility aircrafts.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:53pm On Jul 01, 2018
Xbee007:

According to Wikipedia, it has;
Guns: GI-2 20 mm cannon
Hardpoints: 6 with provisions to carry combinations of

Missiles: Mokopa anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM),
Bombs: Mk 81 250 lb. or Mk 82 500 lb. general-purpose bombs

Cool, thanks.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 11:01pm On Jul 01, 2018
Xbee007:

Is the cockpit armored?
Does it emergency parachuting system?

Both front and rear seats are ejection seats. If there is any armour below the crew it would most probably be very basic. The canopy itself is just that really, a canopy.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Xbee007(m): 11:02pm On Jul 01, 2018
ssaengine:


Both front and rear seats are ejection seats. If there is any armour below the crew it would most probably be very basic. The canopy itself is just that really, a canopy.
Thanks.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:03pm On Jul 01, 2018
Crashed KDF Huey

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by ssaengine: 11:47pm On Jul 01, 2018
ESR 220 Thutlwa early warning radar - SANDF

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 2:14am On Jul 02, 2018
Kenya police air wing 2 Cessna 208B Caravan Aircrafts

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 2:19am On Jul 02, 2018
61mech:
They must have been de-bussed. VBCI's look like they only have superficial damage. Modern 8x8's can take a hell of a punch from exterior explosions.
We had Ratels take 120mm mortar rounds to the roof without penetrating, so I don't see that vehicle taking any casualties from VBIED's unless they're absolutely massive.




i concur,the chances of that happening was if troops had dismounted
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:11am On Jul 02, 2018
Henry240:


I really don't like the design.

Does it have a gun? 30 or 25mm?
20mm cannon.... Same one as on the Rooivalk

Also what don't you like about the design!?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:19am On Jul 02, 2018
Henry240:

OK, thanks.

It's armament is pretty standard, like what you have in other modern light attack/utility aircrafts.
It can be retrofitted quickly and cheaply depending on mission type exp MPA, Recce, Light Attack ect ect

It's basically a piloted drone...... If that makes sense?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Fidha254(m): 6:51am On Jul 02, 2018
newafricaken254:
kenya police airwing helicopter fleet will eventually number 11,they are await two more helicopter.my suspicion is most of this crushes are likely human,kenya airforce has bought both chinese and russian helicopters and soon after lost one of those choppers.afterward there has always being claims that those choppers were inferior or secondhand.but i have come to conclude this was due to poorly experienced helicopters.considering the high level of nepotism among security apparatus,this has to be the issue.also consider most african militaries source ab initio training from abroad and soon after required the pilot to fly a helicopter.which he/she isn't type rated to fly
Apart from that, their is also the issue of brain drain of skilled personel... as much as 30% of Kenya airways pilots and mechanics started their initial training under the police airwing dept... another 40% of Kenya airways pilots and engeneers have come from Kenya airforce.... And then the ridiculous thing is that after years of experience the skilled pilots leave Kenya airways to work for middle eastern cariers who are happy to pay them handsomely

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 8:12am On Jul 02, 2018
Henry240:
Crashed KDF Huey

Downside: Chassis looks wrecked, doubt they could repair it (huge crack just behind cockpit)

Upside: looks like everyone walked away and looks like you can strip most of its parts.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:13am On Jul 02, 2018
Nigerian army Special Forces commando

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:15am On Jul 02, 2018
AU mission

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:17am On Jul 02, 2018
Nigerian Police

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:20am On Jul 02, 2018
Nigerian army commando

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by newafricaken254: 11:16am On Jul 02, 2018
patches689:


According to USAF experience the C-27 is more expensive to run than the C-130, and has more limitations.

No one in their right mind should buy them
so an American says an Italian aircraft is bad but an American aircraft is good !

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:26pm On Jul 02, 2018
newafricaken254:
so an American says an Italian aircraft is bad but an American aircraft is good !
grin grin grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:42pm On Jul 02, 2018
jln115:

20mm cannon.... Same one as on the Rooivalk

Also what don't you like about the design!?
I feel like it looks like a Potato. That's just my observation.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by QuietMynd: 3:18pm On Jul 02, 2018
newafricaken254:
so an American says an Italian aircraft is bad but an American aircraft is good !

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 4:51pm On Jul 02, 2018
Potato plane

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 4:55pm On Jul 02, 2018
Landlocked Ethiopia plans to revive its Navy in new military reforms



We should build our naval force capacity in the future…

Landlocked Ethiopia, which lost its access to the Red Sea in 1991 now plans to rebuild its navy as part of a wide military reforms. The Ethiopian Navy was disbanded after Eritrea – a province in the country seceded following a three-decade war for independence.

Since then, Ethiopia only maintains a maritime institute on Lake Tana that trains sailors and merchantmen. The institution trains more than 500 marine engineers and electro-technical officers each year and plans to increase this to more than 1,000 officers annually.


Read more...
https://www.africanmilitaryblog.com/2018/07/ethiopian-plans-to-revive-its-navy-in-new-military-reforms
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lionel4power(m): 5:45pm On Jul 02, 2018
Royal Moroccan Armed Forces reportedly interested in buying the Boeing AH-64 Apache attack helicopter


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A new report published by The North African Post – a Pan-African media outlet reveals that the country is currently in negotiations with American Boeing for the purchase of Apache AH-64 helicopters for its Armed Forces.

This new report is coming few weeks after the Royal Moroccan Armed Forces allegedly indicated interest in purchasing the Turkish-made TAI T-129 Atak helicopter, a derivation of the Agusta A129 Mangusta attack helicopter.

The North African Post believes that the deal might have been signed in Washington during a visit by the Moroccan Military Chief of Staff Abdelfattah Lourak last April.

In August 2002, The Spanish newspaper Laraithon reported that Saudi Arabia intended to supply Morocco with two squadrons of Apache gunships in light of its crisis with Spain over a disputed Mediterranean isle, which the country vehemently denied.


READ MORE >>>
https://www.africanmilitaryblog.com/2018/07/royal-moroccan-armed-forces-reportedly-interested-in-buying-the-boeing-ah-64-apache-attack-helicopter
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 5:48pm On Jul 02, 2018
newafricaken254:
so an American says an Italian aircraft is bad but an American aircraft is good !

Henry240:

grin grin grin

[quote author=QuietMynd post=69018419][/quote]

"They dont know that the C-27J was developed in a joint venture between Lockheed Martin and Alenia Tactical Transport, or that the USAF was one of the first and biggest operators of the C-27J with over 140 units ordered. They also dont know the story of the G.222 in US military service"

Another excellent example of the mind numbing ignorance of this board.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:01pm On Jul 02, 2018
patches689:






"They dont know that the C-27J was developed in a joint venture between Lockheed Martin and Alenia Tactical Transport, or that the USAF was one of the first and biggest operators of the C-27J with over 140 units ordered. They also dont know the story of the G.222 in US military service"

Another excellent example of the mind numbing ignorance of this board.
It doesn't dispute anything.

"LMATTS was dissolved when Lockheed Martin offered the C-130J in 2006 as a contender in the same U.S. Army and U.S. Air Force Joint Cargo Aircraft (JCA) competition in which the C-27J was competing".

The Americans went for an out and out Lockheed Martin aircraft over the partly built lockheed Martin aircraft.

What's the change?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 6:04pm On Jul 02, 2018
Henry240:

It doesn't dispute anything.

"LMATTS was dissolved when Lockheed Martin offered the C-130J in 2006 as a contender in the same U.S. Army and U.S. Air Force Joint Cargo Aircraft (JCA) competition in which the C-27J was competing".

The Americans went for an out and out Lockheed Martin aircraft over the partly built lockheed Martin aircraft.

What's the change?

Your initial assertion was that the Americans (specifically Congress) were criticizing an Aircraft due to its nation of origin and not because of its technical aspects.

This has been thoroughly debunked, and that being so, has illustrated your poor general knowledge.

Read more, argue less.

PS: The C-27J is now built by Boeing.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:07pm On Jul 02, 2018
patches689:


Your initial assertion was that the Americans were criticizing an Aircraft due to its nation of origin and not because of its technical aspects.

This has been thoroughly debunked, and that being so, has illustrated your poor general knowledge.

Read more, argue less.
No sir, that wasn't my assertion. If it was, can you prove it?

In what world in a US Army tender will Leonardo win an aircraft tender over Lockheed Martin?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:09pm On Jul 02, 2018
patches689:


Your initial assertion was that the Americans (specifically Congress) were criticizing an Aircraft due to its nation of origin and not because of its technical aspects.

This has been thoroughly debunked, and that being so, has illustrated your poor general knowledge.

Read more, argue less.

PS: The C-27J is now built by Boeing.
By November 2006, the C-27J completed the U.S. Department of Defense's Early User Survey evaluations, having flown a total of 26 hours and surpassed all requirements.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 6:11pm On Jul 02, 2018
Henry240:

No sir, that wasn't my assertion. If it was, can you prove it?

In what world in a US Army tender will Leonardo win an aircraft tender over Lockheed Martin?

Your response to the origional post implies you do.

Its made by Boeing

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