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Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by themodernman:
jazinogold:
DaddyFreeze will not like this post...he for don dy calculate how much the pastor go make on tithe and offering
Unfortunately Daddy Freeze don cast hinsef for Naija people eye already, cos the way hin sabi Bible, hin suppose don get hin own flock of Sheeple.

He's actually not as smart as he thinks he is...
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Ebere2020(m): 10:20pm On Jul 08, 2018
foreign construction company? what happened to them so called university graduate architects in Nigeria. nonsense.

make I go brush teeth jooor.....
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by salford1: 10:26pm On Jul 08, 2018
MrSensor:
stupid comment, don't you know that there are people already employed to build that structure? And not less than 180 people for that matter. And when they are done for building that church they will be full-time staff to clean, maintain and guard the whole complex church. Is that not a job creation?
Yes. An American company while all the unskilled jobs like cleaning and security are left for a few percent of the multitudes of jobless Nigerians. Well, you are right. That is still job creation.
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by begwong: 10:33pm On Jul 08, 2018
cvibe2:
What do they want to produce?
More tithers biko. If only it were a biscuit factory sef or school for the less privileged
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Philinho(m): 10:42pm On Jul 08, 2018
People talking about factory should wake up and build factory. HYPOCRITES everywhere. The people walking in DUNAMIS church have better welfare than govt workers. King Solomon built a house for GOD Bigger than this. Evil people everywhere fighting the Church .but you have failed n will be put to shame
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by victorazyvictor(m): 10:45pm On Jul 08, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
I would certainly ignore them or explain to them why I'm wrong if such a person is someone I respect but I'd certainly not say they deserve a horrible death for that
Read my comment, I didn't say he will die, I used the word "if" not will
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by OhiOfIhima: 11:08pm On Jul 08, 2018
Btruth:
it's always about church for Nigerians. But read this:

DID YOU KNOW?

That Japan led Belgium in the ongoing World cup football game by 2 goals up but later conceded 2 goals to give up the lead and eventually lost by 2: 3 to Belgium at the very last moment (94th minute) of the game?

Yet, (and this is the most incredible thing that happened) the Japanese Fans picked up all the wastes items in the stadium areas where they sat to watch the match before leaving, while the Japanese players cleaned the dressing room, leaving the floor spotless and sparkling clean as if it was never used, regardless of their loss.....

They also left a 'THANK YOU' note in Russian for their host?

There's surely something worthy of learning from JAPAN!

A country with a population of 127 million citizens but the 2nd most technologically powerful and the 3rd largest economy in the world. Japan has a GDP of about $4.9 trillion (which is more than the combined GDP of $2.2 trillion for all the African countries with a population of about 1.2 Billion people).

Japan have Shinto and Buddhism as their main religions and with tens of thousands of shrines and temples all over their lands, and yet they demonstrate the highest sense of discipline, responsibility and respect for fellow humans everywhere they go plus an incredible commitment to valuing human life through a sociocultural philosophy called IKIGAI which meaning translates roughly to: 'a reason for living, encompassing joy, a sense of purpose and meaning and a feeling of well-being'.
We Africans on the other hand with Christianity and Islam that frown at idol worshipping and pray frequently and for long hours as if God needed plenty of words before answering, but we have the ridiculously lowest value for human life, plus we have never been able to rally and unite our people to love each other and develop economically. How would you answer this question today: which religion produces the best behaved and most caring human beings on earth? Jesus answer would be "by their fruits you will recognize them". In the early days of Christianity the answer would have been obvious just by looking at the Apostles and disciples of Jesus. But today, Christianity is divided into thousands of denominations with each denomination claiming superiority over others - this is why it is very difficult for even Christian Association of Nigeria to rally all Christians to a common purpose in Nigeria. Lord Jesus Christ himself said it: "a house divided against itself cannot stand".

JAPAN, a non-Christian and non-Islamic country has taught us Africans some important lessons. Japan was heavily devastated by world war II (the first 2 atomic bombs were detonated in the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - it took over 30 years for any grass to grow there), but through it all, with their governments economic policy like restriction on imports to boost exports, and a nationally entrenched business philosophy of continuous improvement of working practices and personal efficiency called KAIZEN, Japan rose from the ashes to become a world giant today with the highest sense of discipline, moral behavior and love for humanity.

Dear 9ja people, don't show me your religion; don't show me how many times you pray in a day to prove to me you love God; rather, show me how you treat people, how you value and respect human life, show me what you're doing to help fellow humans everyday and I will agree you love GOD.

The Christian Apostle James wrote it best: "faith without works is dead". Show me your works and I will tell you your religion.

God bless Nigeria.

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God bless u my man... The love u have for people ur hand can reach demonstrate d love u have for God.. Pray 5times daily n go to church 10times in a day without show love to people around u, d person is just wasting his or her time. My Holy book Qur'an has told me, for all d four corners of ur house, count 40houses from d left, right, front n back n show dem love dat is how u can prove to me dat u are for Islam. D people mentioned is regardless of their religion believed, race or Languages..
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Nobody: 11:30pm On Jul 08, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
After independence, in order to build a great nation, each country went to work. But in Nigeria, after independence, our people went to pray and fast. So, while we were praying, Malaysia came here and took our palm seedlings and built a great factory of it. While we were praying, Singapore went into investment in technology. While we were praying, India went into ICT. While we were praying, China went to massive industrialization. While we were shouting Allah Alakuba! UAE went into massive infrastructural development. While we were binding and casting Lucifer, Japan went into technological development. While we were speaking in tongues, Denmark went into education of her citizens. While we were mounting big speakers in our places of worship, USA was mounting man on the moon.

After our prayers, God, being a wise God decided to reward us according to our labour. Since those that went into industrialization, technology, infrastructural development, ICT, education etc have been rewarded accordingly. It's only wise God rewards us with our efforts in prayers. That's why today, Nigerian pastors are competing in building the biggest churches.

That's why there are more prayer houses and worship places than hospitals and schools. That's why people rush to prayer houses for medical and business solutions instead of hospitals. That's why we don't do business proposals before jumping into business since we are going to back it up with prayers. And when it collapse, we blame devil. That's why it's a sin to say anything negative about pastors and imams. That's why our pastors don't consider the opinion of engineers while building and blame devil when building collapse. That's why faith in God replaces building pillars and when it collapse we blame it on Lucifer. That's why our pastors are making sure they plant church branches instead of schools in every streets in Nigeria. That's why we always wait for gods to do that which ability to accomplish we already have in us. That's why we want our teachers to labour on earth and go to heaven for their rewards. Nigeria is a prayer loving, god fearing nation. Religion has taken the place of technology, infrastructure, education and all. When we are traveling, we ignore all the necessary road requirements, servicing of our vehicles and pray. And, once we pray, we can put a half fit vehicle on the road and blame our step mother or mother in law if anything goes wrong. That's why there are more people dying on our roads. Because, we pray and fast and leave everything to God when we have all we need to survive and build a nation....... I hope it made sense to you
Prayer isn't bad, but I get your point praying with action is the main deal... What I don't accept is the aspect When you said "we pray and fast and leave everything to God..." God isn't burdened by our prayers, no!!! He says "cast all your cares upon me, for he cares for you " ...These countries did it by also praying and acting, but we Nigerians we pray and don't act, that's why the Bible says in James 2:17 "Even so faith, if it hath no works, is dead being alone"...And another point I took from your discuss is this "...thats why people rush to prayer houses and worship places instead of hospitals"... You were right, why should people visit churches for a cure... but has medicines and hospitals in the world helped in solving the major epidemics in the world today, NO!!!, that's when the churches come in, people have had miraculous healing of terminal illnesses, like HIV, cancer, leukemia etc. The word of God isn't averse if a believer goes to a hospital if he/she has a headache ,even God is a Doctor read Ezekiel 47:12 " And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade... the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for MEDICINE"...However the word of God is the best cure... am a testimony, that's why I'm confident to say this without doubt or unbelief.
What Nigerians have to blame are themeselves and not the churches or mosques, this bodies, have laid a part, a foundation for us to build, United States believes in God(thats why it's called God's own country), as well as, Japan,china,and all other countries, this countries couldn't make it without God but they extracted their potentials and refined it for the good of the world,by following their Godly beliefs, and it worked.
Now coming to the stance, why I said Nigerians have to blame themselves... Governments in the helm of affairs, use our ignorance, our disunity, our hate for one another to get to us,or have you seen any country that are not unified (or hatred thrives)ever getting developed, if there is please do tell me, NON!!!... We support corrupt governments based on tribal grounds, just because we still want our corrupt tribal representative still in that capital called Abuja, and do not want to look less important to other tribes and regions, this has further curtailed development, increased corrupt practices(because when this corrupt official are caught, they see the ignorant public as their last call and cry for help), and also affects our psychology.
This further complicates the chain reaction, and making a worst case scenario, of developmental impediments, and ultimately poverty of a country. So in essence, if we could learn from our religions or Christian lifestyle in the teachings of fair justice no matter the attachment to a tribe, especially if evidence is stark clear, fight policies that doesn't entail good for the development of the whole country... We could all be on the right part, of development... Tribalism has been our worst enemy of development, her child is corruption.
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by ofwest47(m): 12:20am On Jul 09, 2018
Could have even being tagged the biggest business auditorium in the world since church businesses is the most lucrative in Nigeria . It is only in Nigeria you have church pastors riding on private jets not one or two and uncountable number of super cars at the expense of unnoticeable members of the church looking for miracles.
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by BMTCN: 12:35am On Jul 09, 2018
We can supply up to 5000 capacity auditorium
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Sammyblaq(m): 12:37am On Jul 09, 2018
We need factories to contain the unemployed.

As we need pray without ceasing, but the church structures we have standing are already OK.
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by nick98(m): 12:41am On Jul 09, 2018
VERY HAPPY TO BE PART OF THIS PROJECT, it doesn't Matter how much I gave.
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by newslifeop: 1:08am On Jul 09, 2018
hmm
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by saltoasis: 5:34am On Jul 09, 2018
Daddy freeze your food is read. I expect him to react anytime soon.
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by PotatoSalad(m): 5:55am On Jul 09, 2018
Ziggylady:
Blablabla!!...After ranting go and drink garri and groundnut....Your fellow atheists in developed World are impacting on humanity,whille you lots in Nigeria are berefit of ideas...The only thing you do is rant against christians and religion like you are forbidden from making your own positive impacts physically
Shut the hell up! That's the sad and bitter truth
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Awaja(m): 6:24am On Jul 09, 2018
The location gives it away,pray BH boiz don’t blow it up in a jiffy .
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by igirabata123(m): 6:31am On Jul 09, 2018
Nigeria has missed it since 100BC. Instead of building industries we compete building religion centers. God will give us sense.
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Ziggylady(f): 6:45am On Jul 09, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
Mention "prominent atheists in Nigeria" let's start from there before asking what they've done for charity

awaiting your response
Thats it!!...I do not know of any...You are nowhere to be found in reality..Most of you have no guts and too cowardly to profess your 'beliefs' off-line..

Since you lots are chickens off-line,channel your energy towards galvanizing and propping up your 'followeres' off-line..after which you will then embark on your ground-breaking-humanity-saving ventures in Nigeria to replicate that of developed natiions,lets see what you have got..instead of clowning around on social-media,making so much noise against Christians like we owe you something or are answerable to you.
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Holorunloseyi(m): 7:00am On Jul 09, 2018
Countries crave of industries,Nigeria crave of churches even the white that introduce christanity to us dont do it this way
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by hopefulLandlord: 7:02am On Jul 09, 2018
Ziggylady:
Thats it!!...I do not know of any..
can you see how stupid and asinine your question was? Since there are no prominent Nigerian atheists, then asking what they've done for charity is like asking what prominent gay Saudi Arabians have done for charity

For the other rubbish you said that I cut off. the atheists in developed nations also went through a period of being in the closet asides counties like China and Japan, they gradually left the closet and this would also happen in Nigeria but till then.......
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Butterflyleo: 7:40am On Jul 09, 2018
Ziggylady:
Thats it!!...I do not know of any...You are nowhere to be found in reality..Most of you have no guts and too cowardly to profess your 'beliefs' off-line..

Since you lots are chickens off-line,channel your energy towards galvanizing and propping up your 'followeres' off-line..after which you will then embark on your ground-breaking-humanity-saving ventures in Nigeria to replicate that of developed natiions,lets see what you have got..instead of clowning around on social-media,making so much noise against Christians like we owe you something or are answerable to you.
Well said!

Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Xtopher123(m): 7:52am On Jul 09, 2018
An auditorium of such magnitude with no parking space to accommodate them?

Why are we this foolish in this country?

Oh i forgot, the Blood of Jesus would cover the cars..
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by SheikhMuniru(m): 7:54am On Jul 09, 2018
XTIANS WITH THEIR WAHALA, WHICH ONE IS BIGGEST WORLD CHURCH... COME AND SEE OVER 1M CAPACITY MOSQUE IN MECCA... UP ISLAM
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Tellemall: 9:12am On Jul 09, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
Mention "prominent atheists in Nigeria" let's start from there before asking what they've done for charity

awaiting your response
Meaning that you, as an atheist, don't know any. Hence you're throwing back the question.

Religion isn't the problem of Africa. The problem of Africa is the corrupt greedy people in it.

God isn't your problem. People are.

Religion is everywhere. Stop crying about it. It's in the deepest darkest and coldest places humans inhabit. Your opinion on it doesn't matter because people will still revere a deity, whether you think it's detrimental to them or not.

The church was not instituted to take over government responsibilities. The government was not instituted for the church's activities. Learn the distinction.

You always sound as if you're contributing to the world. Well, if you are you wouldn't be so concerned with perceived lack of contribution by others. Do your do. Stop moaning. If you don't believe it you sure do waste a lot of time on it.

Development didn't come by shunning religion. The developed world isn't as atheistic as you would like to think. Travel out. Live. Learn.
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Butterflyleo: 9:23am On Jul 09, 2018
Tellemall:
Meaning that you, as an atheist, don't know any. Hence you're throwing back the question.

Religion isn't the problem of Africa. The problem of Africa is the corrupt greedy people in it.

God isn't your problem. People are.

Religion is everywhere. Stop crying about it. It's in the deepest darkest and coldest places humans inhabit. Your opinion on it doesn't matter because people will still revere a deity, whether you think it's detrimental to them or not.

The church was not instituted to take over government responsibilities. The government was not instituted for the church's activities. Learn the distinction.

You always sound as if you're contributing to the world. Well, if you are you wouldn't be so concerned with perceived lack of contribution by others. Do your do. Stop moaning. If you don't believe it you sure do waste a lot of time on it.

Development didn't come by shunning religion. The developed world isn't as atheistic as you would like to think. Travel out. Live. Learn.
I applaud you. However you need to desist responding to those guys.

Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Iykenuwa(m): 9:26am On Jul 09, 2018
Satan won't like this
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Tellemall: 9:34am On Jul 09, 2018
Butterflyleo:
I applaud you. However you need to desist responding to those guys.
Honestly, I stopped commenting on the religion threads because they don't make sense and they are not exposed. You will hear things like "Chinese are not religious that's why they are progressing". Have they ever lived in China to know that? You'll be surprised they're reading the atheistic works of an atheist who has never been on an airplane. To the average Nigerian atheist, the world out there functions because everybody who is not in Nigeria is an atheist. Absurd.

Most atheists are uncultured and close-minded. They say that theists aren't open-minded, but it is they who cannot reason above scientific formula. They're trying to apply science to religion. Measuring length with a thermometer. To them science is a religion, but science is attainable as a standard of education to theists alike. Science will uncover everything. A science that only exists in 3 dimensions and cannot quantify a soul.

I commented because the back and forth it was having with Ziggylady was beginning to reek of an atheist trying to play smart, which usually means not answering questions and being obtuse.

Don't worry, I'll not engage again.
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by hopefulLandlord:
Tellemall:
Meaning that you, as an atheist, don't know any. Hence you're throwing back the question.

Religion isn't the problem of Africa. The problem of Africa is the corrupt greedy people in it.

God isn't your problem. People are.

Religion is everywhere. Stop crying about it. It's in the deepest darkest and coldest places humans inhabit. Your opinion on it doesn't matter because people will still revere a deity, whether you think it's detrimental to them or not.

The church was not instituted to take over government responsibilities. The government was not instituted for the church's activities. Learn the distinction.

You always sound as if you're contributing to the world. Well, if you are you wouldn't be so concerned with perceived lack of contribution by others. Do your do. Stop moaning. If you don't believe it you sure do waste a lot of time on it.

Development didn't come by shunning religion. The developed world isn't as atheistic as you would like to think. Travel out. Live. Learn.
Why are you assuming I haven't traveled out? I'll wager I've visited more countries than you have or ever will so stop making assumptions about people on a faceless forum

This is what happens when you don't read from the beginning or you forgot where the conversation started.
you could argue Religion isn't responsible for it but the way we take it serious is either responsible or is an enforcing mechanism for it or its a symptom of it or a combination of them all

Majority of the people in those "religious developed countries" you're talking about don't take religion as serious as Nigerians do. religion to them is more of a cultural and community thing rather than first thing/something they rely upon or consult for issues

Nigeria is filled with a population that all pray against poverty and scream "Its not my portion!!!" at the slightest sign of someone talking to them about it. Nigerians with all their prayers and rejecting poverty has now been declared the poverty capital of the world. Same way they keep going to church to pray for long life. their life expectancy is now a little over half of that of atheist Japan who don't pray such prayers

At the slightest issue the average Nigerian calls on god and/or blame mother in-laws, witches, wizards, enemies etc while those in developed countries seek practical solutions. someone is walking on the road, falls down and dies with no one in proximity of him and Nigerians would conclude its village people. same thing happens in developed countries and they would carry out good research, tell us what caused the death, research ways of preventing it or reducing it's frequency then becomes better for it

these Nigerians would go to church to sit and hear sermons about how this life doesn't really matter much as heaven is the goal so no matter how much they suffer they shouldn't worry cuz this life is "Vanity of vanities, all is vanity" which encourages laziness. Of course this same "vanity" preacher lives in mansion, wears the best cloths, eat the best foods and drives performance cars, is tended to by bodyguards while telling the congregation all they need to protect themselves is buy stickers with words like "No weapon fashioned against me shall prosper" or an apron with the next church's program printed on it

Anywhere religion is taken as seriously as Nigerians do there would definitely be poverty and underdevelopment there. that's a fact nobody can deny. whether its the cause or the symptom is where disagreement can be
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Butterflyleo: 9:46am On Jul 09, 2018
Tellemall:
Honestly, I stopped commenting on the religion threads because they don't make sense and they are not exposed. You will hear things like "Chinese are not religious that's why they are progressing". Have they ever lived in China to know that? You'll be surprised they're reading the atheistic works of an atheist who has never been on an airplane. To the average Nigerian atheist, the world out there functions because everybody who is not in Nigeria is an atheist. Absurd.

Most atheists are uncultured and close-minded. They say that theists aren't open-minded, but it is they who cannot reason above scientific formula. They're trying to apply science to religion. Measuring length with a thermometer. To them science is a religion, but science is attainable as a standard of education to theists alike. Science will uncover everything. A science that only exists in 3 dimensions and cannot quantify a soul.

I commented because the back and forth it was having with Ziggylady was beginning to reek of an atheist trying to play smart, which usually means not answering questions and being obtuse.

Don't worry, I'll not engage again.
Well said. I have been creating an awareness about ignoring atheists. Began on this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/4592174/warning-all-christians

Feel free to join.

I love your composure. Keep the flag flying and your light shining in the deepest darkness.

God bless you.
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by DelusionKiller(f): 10:04am On Jul 09, 2018
hopefulLandlord:
Why are you assuming I haven't traveled out? I'll wager I've visited more countries than you have or ever will so stop making assumptions about people on a faceless forum

This is what happens when you don't read from the beginning or you forgot where the conversation started.
Religion isn't responsible for it but the way we take it serious is either responsible or is an enforcing mechanism for it

Majority of the people in those "religious developed countries" you're talking about don't take religion as serious as Nigerians do. religion to them is more of a cultural and community thing rather than first thing/something they rely upon or consult for issues

Nigeria is filled with a population that all pray against poverty and scream "Its not my portion!!!" at the slightest sign of someone talking to them about it. Nigerians with all their prayers and rejecting poverty has now been declared the poverty capital of the world. Same way they keep going to church to pray for long life. their life expectancy is now a little over half of that of atheist Japan who don't pray such prayers

At the slightest issue the average Nigerian calls on god and/or blame mother in-laws, witches, wizards, enemies etc while those in developed countries seek practical solutions. someone is walking on the road, falls down and dies with no one in proximity of him and Nigerians would conclude its village people. same thing happens in developed countries and they would carry out good research, tell us what caused the death, research ways of preventing it or reducing it's frequency then becomes better for it

these Nigerians would go to church to sit and hear sermons about how this life doesn't really matter much as heaven is the goal so no matter how much they suffer they shouldn't worry cuz this life is "Vanity of vanities, all is vanity" which encourages laziness. Of course this same "vanity" preacher lives in mansion, wears the best cloths, eat the best foods and drives performance cars, is tended to by bodyguards while telling the congregation all they need to protect themselves is buy stickers with words like "No weapon fashioned against me shall prosper" or an apron with the next church's program printed on it

Anywhere religion is taken as seriously as Nigerians do there would definitely be poverty and underdevelopment there. that's a fact nobody can deny. whether its the cause or the symptom is where disagreement can be
#word
Re: Dunamis Glory Sanctuary, The Lord’s Garden Abuja, The World's Biggest Auditorium by Tellemall:
hopefulLandlord:
Why are you assuming I haven't traveled out? I'll wager I've visited more countries than you have or ever will so stop making assumptions about people on a faceless forum

This is what happens when you don't read from the beginning or you forgot where the conversation started.
Religion isn't responsible for it but the way we take it serious is either responsible or is an enforcing mechanism for it

Majority of the people in those "religious developed countries" you're talking about don't take religion as serious as Nigerians do. religion to them is more of a cultural and community thing rather than first thing/something they rely upon or consult for issues

Nigeria is filled with a population that all pray against poverty and scream "Its not my portion!!!" at the slightest sign of someone talking to them about it. Nigerians with all their prayers and rejecting poverty has now been declared the poverty capital of the world. Same way they keep going to church to pray for long life. their life expectancy is now a little over half of that of atheist Japan who don't pray such prayers

At the slightest issue the average Nigerian calls on god and/or blame mother in-laws, witches, wizards, enemies etc while those in developed countries seek practical solutions. someone is walking on the road, falls down and dies with no one in proximity of him and Nigerians would conclude its village people. same thing happens in developed countries and they would carry out good research, tell us what caused the death, research ways of preventing it or reducing it's frequency then becomes better for it

these Nigerians would go to church to sit and hear sermons about how this life doesn't really matter much as heaven is the goal so no matter how much they suffer they shouldn't worry cuz this life is "Vanity of vanities, all is vanity" which encourages laziness. Of course this same "vanity" preacher lives in mansion, wears the best cloths, eat the best foods and drives performance cars, is tended to by bodyguards while telling the congregation all they need to protect themselves is buy stickers with words like "No weapon fashioned against me shall prosper" or an apron with the next church's program printed on it

Anywhere religion is taken as seriously as Nigerians do there would definitely be poverty and underdevelopment there. that's a fact nobody can deny. whether its the cause or the symptom is where disagreement can be
@bold : Don't you think that goes for you?

Sound like a traveled person and not a close-minded atheist.

Until you do and stop harping about religion and development then you will be taken as a well-intentioned individual.

Your problem isn't religion, because the whole world is religious. Your problem is people. Accept that.

Whether religion is cultural or not isn't the issue. Some culture is tied to religion. But the evils of Africa and its supposed darkness do not come from religion. They come from the minds of the people.

Stop putting religion everywhere. Development comes from religious minds and religious countries. The difference is the people and their values.

What do Nigerians value? Money. They will get it at any cost. Society doesn't reprimand them enough for killing, stealing, maiming and destroying to get money. What does religion have to do with the failure of government and the rotted values of people?

Your atheism has given you a narrow world view. This is why no atheist is ever logical or objective. To you, this is all about your sentiment on religion. We are yet to see an atheist who doesn't blame the woes of their Life and the evil of the world on religion. You blame God for everything. Look at yourself first.

An atheist cannot get married, he blames religion, instead of seeking a fellow atheist to marry. He loses his job, due to whatever reasons, he chalks it to his anti theist feelings that his boss picked up on. Can you people just face the world and stop looking for religious diversions? Don't theists face these things or do you think you are the special ones, somehow more intelligent, simply because you cannot understand the concept of there being an other known as God to some? Nigerians have always had atheists in their midst, just like every other country, but why you cry more than the others nobody really can tell.

Your posts all over this "faceless forum" highlight your continuous unending hatred/bitterness with religion, Christianity in particular. You've never really logically looked at a problem without the coloring of hatred for God.

Japan is an atheist country because you want it to be. In your mind it is the product of atheism. Have you lived in Japan? Do you know that religion is very much alive there? Where did Aum Shinrikyo come from, Mars? The other religious variations?

When you make posts like that you've lost objectivity. It's now your anti religious sentiment. I did not read further than that Japan line. The rest is your usual, an agglomeration of shallow, poorly-traveled local sentiment. You traveled to Reddit and back. There's no need for future mentions. You remain bigoted and intoxicated on the imaginary (according to you).

Travel out. Live. Learn.
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Tellemall:
@bold : Keep dreaming.

Sound like a traveled person and not a close-minded atheist.

Until you do and stop harping about religion and development then you will be taken as a well-intentioned individual.

Your problem isn't religion, because the whole world is religious. Your problem is people. Accept that.

Whether religion is cultural or not isn't the issue. Some culture is tied to religion. But the evils of Africa and its supposed darkness do not come from religion. They come from the minds of the people.

Stop putting religion everywhere. Development comes from religious minds and religious countries. The difference is the people and their values.

What do Nigerians value? Money. They will get it at any cost. Society doesn't reprimand them enough for killing, stealing, maiming and destroying to get money. What does religion have to do with the failure of government and the rotted values of people?

Your atheism has given you a narrow world view. This is why no atheist is ever logical or objective. To you, this is all about your sentiment on religion. We are yet to see an atheist who doesn't blame the woes of their Life and the evil of the world on religion. You blame God for everything. Look at yourself first.

An atheist cannot get married, he blames religion, instead of seeking a fellow atheist to marry. He loses his job, due to whatever reasons, he chalks it to his anti theist feelings that his boss picked up on. Can you people just face the world and stop looking for religious diversions? Don't theists face these things or do you think you are the special ones, somehow more intelligent, simply because you cannot understand the concept of there being an other known as God to some? Nigerians have always had atheists in their midst, just like every other country, but why you cry more than the others nobody really can tell.

Your posts all over this "faceless forum" highlight your continuous unending hatred/bitterness with religion, Christianity in particular. You've never really logically looked at a problem without the coloring of hatred for God.

Japan is an atheist country because you want it to be. In your mind it is the product of atheism. Have you lived in Japan? Do you know that religion is very much alive there? Where did Aum Shinrikyo come from, Mars? The other religious variations?

When you make posts like that you've lost objectivity. It's now your anti religious sentiment. I did not read further than that. There's no need for future mentions.

Travel out. Live. Learn.
I see you're not only ignorant but you also project your chronic ignorance on others. You accuse someone else of not travelling yet betray your lack of knowledge by mixing religion and theism

Japan is filled with atheist majority but being an atheist doesn't mean you can't be religious. Japanese practice Shintoism and Buddhism which are religions without God aka "Non theistic religion" read here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontheistic_religion and cute your ignorance so you don't embarrass yourself like you just did or better still check out kingebukasblog thread titled "Religion without god and god without religion" if you're so skeptical of the links I give or what I say. they don't believe any god exists and the few that do don't believe it interferes in their affairs

A sensible atheist that is finding it difficult getting married would look into the reasons and act accordingly. its infact the theist that would blame the atheist's atheism for that but you've never been an atheist so you're simply projecting how asinine your thinking would be if you're one. if he loses his job or is jobless its the theists themselves that would blame his atheism for it.

I don't even think there's any reason to counter the other rubbishes contained in this post of yours cuz its filled with ignorance and assumption of how things work and who I am. maybe when you're ready to make some sense and learn then it might be worth my while. You said you've not been posting for a long time. I think its high time you resume not posting

NB: if its true that you're well traveled like you're claiming then either you travel through watching movies or in dreams cuz you don't show sign of someone who has watches cable let a lone traveled out of the region he's born in

Bye, Felicia
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