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Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by Nobody: 6:53pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
baby124: It's not as "case closed" as you think. 1. Claiming she paid someone to handle it for her does not exempt her from the charge of conspiracy to forgery. She claiming ignorance will not fly because ignorance of the law is not a remedy for breaches. 2. She is not eligible for exemption, thus even when she applies, she will be denied. As a consequence of submitting a certificate she is not eligible for, and likely forged, she can be prosecuted for the criminal charges of legal misrepresentation, conspiracy to forgery and forgery. 5 Likes |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by remigiusizunna(m): 6:55pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
NgeneUkwenu:It is clear someone just received a pinch of sense. 2 Likes |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by BlackDuke(m): 6:57pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
NYSC data office may soon be gutted by fire, this is Nigeria. 8 Likes |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by aribisala0(m): 7:02pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
baby124:She was not well advised. The law as it is written does not make provision for that so she is required to serve otherwise go to court I think there may be exceptional grounds but the only way to realize those is to go to court. There are some loopholes which I identified but hell she does not pay me so I do not give my ideas for free. What seems likely is she arrived as a tiro in Nigeria in the country and that document was procuredd by the likes of Amosun. Very likely it was a forgery but as the guy who signed it is dead we may never know. Even if he signed it he was not empowered to do so by law. Not even the president can grant an exemption and so many other political heads should rol e.g Tinubu and Saraki |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by paramakina202: 7:02pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
Our finance minister is a criminal. 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by ensamy(m): 7:03pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
If the presence of Jonah as Kemi Adeosun is rocking the government boat then itit's better to throw Jonah into the water to safe the boat or allow Jonah in the boat then the government's boat will eventually sink with Jonah in it as kemi Adeosun. 1 Like |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by mathinips(m): 7:06pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
Ok oooo we waiting 1 Like |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by mickeymimi: 7:08pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
Notin go happen jhor .. no be Niger ..When most of our senators no even finish secondary school....but they have forged university certificates and start forming big men up and down.......when the big thieves among them are the ones ruling the country ...,,, |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by aribisala0(m): 7:11pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
boostdom:She is not eligible for exemption you are 100% correct The forgery thing is more diffiicult to prove since the alleged signatory is dead. She does not have to claim she "paid" and even if she does that is not a defence of "ignorance of law" but acting in good faith. If someone comes to my shop to spend fake money and I in turn go out to spend it in ignorance that the money is fake that is a reasonable defence That is not a claim of gnorance of law so there is a need to make a distinction between a defence of ignorance of law and ignorance of facts. If I give you a glass of water in good faith and it turns out to be poisoned and kills you that is unfortunate but without Mens Rea there is no crime I am sure some illiterates will soon say I am defending her |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by degamemaster(m): 7:13pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
Aunty Kemi is going home. Everything about this daura born idiot is fraud and fraud and more fraud. Buhari is going down as the most corrupt and fraudulent president of Nigeria. 4 Likes |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by tiredoflife(m): 7:19pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
baby124: So if I rape u I just need to tell the judge I didnt know u are not my girl friend And remove my sperm from ur body And I can go home abi 3 Likes |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by Adagba1: 7:19pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
The same people supporting Dino's certificate the other time are crucifying Kemi.What an irony. |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by deomelo: 7:22pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
Built2last: ..but PT is not keeping it clean and it's obvious that they have their own agenda, political association and affiliation. 1. They painted the result of their investigation as proof of wrongdoing, indictment and conviction instead of the standard journalistic phrase, ALLEGED/ALLEGEDLY, that was very unprofessional because responsible and credible news outlets all over the world and basic principle of Journalism says until there is conviction in a court of law or legislative body, they must restrict their views to ALLEGED/ALLEGEDLY. PT basically arrogated to itself the prosecutor, jury and the judge. That was dirty, slimy, unprofessional, crude, crass and grossly unbecoming. 2. When the NYSC issued a statement on the matter, acknowledging that the Minister indeed properly applied for an exemption, Premium Times chose a false and sensational and most unprofessional headline to report the news, alleging that the NYSC had ‘disowned’ the Minister, when what the NYSC did was the complete opposite of disowning her. 3. PT know they goofed, fumbled and acted very very unprofessional hence their scrambling with new and meaningless stories to justify their already badly handled flawed story. 4. The NYSC is the only designated body allowed to make any direct and final right or wrong proclamation, not PT and this is why at the end of the day, I see nothing but law suits in their future. |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by ivandragon: 7:33pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
lol... the tribal touts are as usual, defending their own favoured criminals... hypocritical louts... 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by Nobody: 7:36pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
aribisala0: The forgery thing is not as difficult to prove as you may think. The DG does not physically sign certificates. His signature specimen is available in the system and this is mass appended on the ELIGIBLE certificates. Now, what constitutes "ELIGIBLE" certificates? Certificates that satisfy the discharge or exemption requirements. Kemi's does not. Also, I think you are poorly informed on what constitutes defence of ignorance. If you are caught spending fake money because you want to claim someone spent it in your shop, then be aware that this does not exempt you from the charge of counterfeiting. Ignorance is not a valid excuse in itself. This is why those caught with stolen items are charged for possession of stolen items. If you give me a glass of water and it turns out to be poisoned and I drink and die, you will be charged for manslaughter. This is why people who are commissioners in accidents where another dies are charged with manslaughter, if murder can't be proved. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by Icon2007: 7:45pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
If nysc should cover this case up nysc should be charged to court for double standard. Because I know some people that did something like this and after they were dismissed from their well paying job Nysc still charged them to court it was even in the news paper. So they should judge her based on the Law of the land. 3 Likes |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by aribisala0(m): 7:55pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
boostdom: I am talking academically . If and when a time to do any proving comes that is a business for Mrs Adeosun. I do not represent her. What I said is what I believe and you have written what ou believe. Hahaha. I am well informed, by case law, of the kinds of defences that have formed the Jurisprudence used to teach law students as defence exemplars Anyone can be charged for anything. Ask Tinubu,ask Saraki. I mentioned MENS REA it appears to have eluded you. Being charged is not the same as being guilty. Let us not speculate on what might or might not happen. I respect your opinion I just disagree with them. I do not even want to persuade you to change your mind My mindset is what I would expect to find in a trial judge willing to understand and listen to to both sides and not in a hurry to form opinion. How can one sit in trial if one is of the number that forms an opinion on hearsay. What does it take to be a judge/justice. Genuine intellectual neutrality. In law the starting poin is ALWAYS innocent until proven guilty.Always Fine. I hear you and I am sure you hear me and we will have to agree to disagree and move on. |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by freeze001(f): 7:59pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
Lomprico2: The latter fits the bill to a tee.. 1 Like |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by Lomprico2: 8:03pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
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Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by Munzy14(m): 8:12pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
PaChukwudi44:As in eeeh. lol. ngene na Certified BMC. with small pay. 2 Likes |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by aribisala0(m): 8:12pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
Politically , It is another matter. Her and the government's silence brings into question the moralizing pposture of the government. She should resign. That would be the smart thing to do politically. It is almost 4 years, the budget is passed and it makes Buhari look decisive. However Bhari is weak and would be afraid of offending her godfather 2 Likes |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by goaldynboy: 9:05pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
CohenJane: EWU!! Kemi got married to NIYI ADEOSUN in the 1980s! So she was already bearing her husband's last name by 2009!! 2 Likes |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by MarijuanaLORD: 9:08pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
NgeneUkwenu:Ngene e be like them never pay u ur bmc stipend 2 Likes |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by CharlotteFlair: 9:19pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
Masterppower:Don't you just mean "sufferistication""?? 2 Likes |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by ArcSEMPECJ(m): 9:20pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
You voted in the post of a whole President of the Republic of Nigeria to a man who could not show his class 3 standard 6WAEC certificate........ And now we are here discussing about his minister who didn't go have NYSC certificate..... This country is now a joke............ 2 Likes |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by braine(m): 9:23pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
Fools were looking for "Foluke Adeosun".. 2 Likes |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by deomelo: 10:05pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
PT don enter second chance. Na so so helter skelter all over the place. |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by Truthcat: 10:06pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
Igbos should stop being hypocrites and lead by example by post Ngozi Okonjo Iweala's Nysc certificate or shut the hell up. If your sister didn't need nysc certificate why should mine need it? You can only address this issue from the ground up. |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by AseleAsele18(m): 10:10pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
Premium Times great job. We await the defence already undergoing surgery. We hope they do it well. 2 Likes |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by Jokerman(m): 11:13pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
Truthcat: So this is about supporting your own tribe now?? |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by Truthcat: 11:26pm On Jul 10, 2018 |
No, it's about supporting yours! You must be dumb to think all your games won't have an end. Jokerman: |
Re: Kemi Adeosun's Name Not On NYSC 2009 Exemption Register - Premium Times by yinnyme(m): 4:18am On Jul 11, 2018 |
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