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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:25am On Jul 11, 2018
AIG07:
Yesterday's match was the first match the French national team was really stretched to the limit. Yet, they came out unscathed.

What a brilliant side replica of their Golden Generation.

Umtiti = Thuram
Kante = Makelele
Pogba = Viera.
Mbappe = Young Henry
Perfect but remember young Henry wasn't a starter.Mbappe at 19 is "da bomb" and world best in the making

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:29am On Jul 11, 2018
Truidstar:


Greetings sir. Our boys don put me for silent mode. Future is indeed bright. We start again.
Truid baba TUALE.Yes we need to start again and good we have Afcon qualifiers.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:35am On Jul 11, 2018
Kog45:
Perfect but remember young Henry wasn't a starter.Mbappe at 19 is "da bomb" and world best in the making

Henry started quite a number of games at France 98... He started the group matches and the second round game.. It was only in the quarters that he was placed in the bench.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:44am On Jul 11, 2018
Eagles Striker Joins Steven Gerard In Rangers


By Emmanuel Egobiambu -
July 10, 2018




Eagles Striker Joins Steven Gerard In Rangers
Sadiq Umar. Source: Whazup Nigeria

Super Eagles star Sadiq Umar has finalized his season loan deal to Scottish club, Glasgow Rangers from Italian side, AS Roma.

Concise News understands that the deal is subject to international clearance.

The 21-year-old has found it hard to claim a shirt with AS Roma after joined them from Serie B side Spezia in 2015.

“The plan was to stay in Rome this season but when Steven Gerrard calls, you can’t say no,” Sadiq told Rangers TV.

“He told me about the team, the players, that everyone will be at my side if I come here and he will help me to go forward in my career.

“You don’t have to think twice when someone says that to you.”

Sadiq won a bronze medal in the football event at the Rio 2016 Olympics with Nigeria.

https://www.concisenews.global/2018/07/10/eagles-striker-joins-steven-gerard-in-rangers/

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:50am On Jul 11, 2018
Sadiq Umar's interview with Rangers TV. He calls them the most successful team in the world and their fans are eating it up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMXVdHWtB5g

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:04am On Jul 11, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
My best French player is Griezmann. The guy is a joy to watch. He gives everything at all times. I think he will win the golden ball if they win the cup.
griezman that brings his atm mentality to the national team?
Dude slows counter like it's his right undecidedespecially when they re a goal up..

No not for me
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:05am On Jul 11, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
Sadiq Umar's interview with Rangers TV. He calls them the most successful team in the world and their fans are eating it up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMXVdHWtB5g

Is this a good move for his development?

He gets to play in the Europa league next season.

I have high hopes for his kid. We need new strikers in the Eagles. It is time to start introducing Umar, Awoniyi and others.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:05am On Jul 11, 2018
johnsonjrule:
The question is when will Nigeria play like France?
Nigeria isn't France and In no way can play like france

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 9:14am On Jul 11, 2018
tbaba1234:


Is this a good move for his development?

He gets to play in the Europa league next season.

I have high hopes for his kid. We need new strikers in the Eagles. It is time to start introducing Umar, Awoniyi and others.

Yes. My delight also is that our players are signing for clubs in Europa and Champion Leagues...Onyekuru,Idowu,Awoniyi,Umar etc...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:23am On Jul 11, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
My best French player is Griezmann. The guy is a joy to watch. He gives everything at all times. I think he will win the golden ball if they win the cup.

Lol Griezman a joy to watch are you kidding me?

Yes he is a world class player but sorry griezman is not a joy to watch
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:27am On Jul 11, 2018
EEGA:
Imagine if we played a 3-4-3 with this front three.

Your head is there bros.

I see 3 good players

Musa Left flank and onyekuru Right flank then Kayode the number 9 is not bad.

I wish those trio a successfully season,Kayode will be playing in the champions league,i dont know musa and onyekuru decision yet.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 9:29am On Jul 11, 2018
goldfish80:

I put it to you that Mbappe will win the Balon dor before Neymar.

Dont say so,calm down and watch next season then we can conclude okay.

Remember say neymar na fifa pikin.

Neymar came 3rd twice in inside those twice luis suarez deserve one of those 3rd
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:41am On Jul 11, 2018
tbaba1234:


I have to comment here because this is deceptive.

There was no mandated MRI test by CAF or FIFA in 2009. Any test (If any) that might have been conducted was done by Nigeria alone with no independent party and hence subject to the Nigerian factor.

Currently, test results are monitored by CAF and FIFA experts because they are mandatory. In 2009, we only had random tests by CAF and FIFA meaning not every player was tested.

That you have to refer back to 2009 is testament to the success of mandatory MRI tests. We have not had any significant verifiable age scandal since.

There's no deception here, I'm putting out what was reported and recall that 6 months to the 2009 U17 world cup, about 15 members of the supposed Nigerian team were laid off after failing they MRI test because FIFA introduced a routine check to try out players so to be on the safe side, it was better every player was tested because you don't know who will be picked at random just liked they do with dope test.
In subsequent tournaments, they stopped random check and made it mandatory to check every player.


The Acting General Secretary of NFF, Barrister Musa Amadu said:

“We are not claiming to be perfect, as that is a virtue that belongs to only the Almighty God. But Nigerians are aware of the efforts we made to ensure that we put forward a genuine team.”
The team underwent MRI scans at the National Hospital in Abuja and at the world famous Aspire Academy in Qatar,and is still being subjected to scans at the ongoing competition.
(FIFA'S random scans) But simply because he wants to destroy, Amiesimaka has gone out to ‘invent’.”We are not bothered.

Taiwo Ogunjobi:

Addressing the key question of Chukwudi’s age, Ogunjobi reiterated that the player passed the MRI test, and not just once.


http://www.thetidenewsonline.com/2009/11/07/eaglet%E2%80%99s-age-scandal-adokiye-sticks-to-gun/

cc Icon4s, TheGoodJoe

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:51am On Jul 11, 2018
goldfish80:


There's no deception here, I'm putting out what was reported and recall that 6 months to the 2009 U17 world cup, about 15 members of the supposed Nigerian team were laid off after failing they MRI test because FIFA introduced a routine check to try out players so to be on the safe side, it was better every player was tested because you don't know who will be picked at random just liked they do with dope test.
In subsequent tournaments, they stopped random check and made it mandatory to check every player.



It is deceptive because that was not a FIFA mandated test. It was done in house by Nigeria. It is definitely much easier for over-aged to be passed through in unregulated tests especially in a place like Nigeria.

In 2009, 1 or 2 players were tested after every match at random, this means that the bulk of the team never got tested by FIFA.

It was only in 2011, that it became a mandated regulated test conducted several times by CAF and FIFA.

It is highly unlikely that a 25 year old will pass a properly regulated MRI test.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:03am On Jul 11, 2018
andrew444:


Dont say so,calm down and watch next season then we can conclude okay.

Remember say neymar na fifa pikin.

Neymar came 3rd twice in inside those twice luis suarez deserve one of those 3rd

Mbappe can even go one better when France win the world cup. I suspect he will be inside the top 2 if this happens.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:06am On Jul 11, 2018
goldfish80:


My problem with this standard deviation of +/-0.9 is that black Africans weren't sampled in the said test.
I have a pdf report of a failure rate of about 46% on 86 Ghanaian boys sampled. This percentage is not negligible.

It comes to a point when, arguing with the man who has eyes but cannot and or has refused to see.

Is FUTILE.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:08am On Jul 11, 2018
tbaba1234:


It is deceptive because that was not a FIFA mandated test. It was done in house by Nigeria. It is definitely much easier for over-aged to be passed through in unregulated tests especially in a place like Nigeria.

In 2009, 1 or 2 players were tested after every match at random, this means that the bulk of the team never got tested by FIFA.

It was only in 2011, that it became a mandated regulated test conducted several times by CAF and FIFA.

It is highly unlikely that a 25 year old will pass a properly regulated MRI test.

The fact was that he came out in the clear after passing two tests in Abuja and Qatar.

Like I said earlier, the Nff tested every player in 2009 so as to ensure no one failed FIFA's random test. It was a sensible thing to do that was why they were they didn't believe Adokie's accusations till he produced picture evidence.
I have posted not less than 3 articles which clearly states that a person's chronological age is different from bone maturity.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:11am On Jul 11, 2018
goldfish80:


Mbappe can even go one better when France win the world cup. I suspect he will be inside the top 2 if this happens.

Lol

Let's not deceive our self,the best player from the World Cup winner will only come 3rd

You heard it here first.

Mpabbe top 2 ke ? So na Messi go come 3rd abi ?make we dey see nah

During when Spain win World Cup wetin happen ?

Messi come 1st iniesta 2nd and xavi 3rd

Watch and see
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:13am On Jul 11, 2018
EEGA:
Imagine if we played a 3-4-3 with this front three.

They pace and technicality.

However, they are not physically robust and when it comes to set pieces we will have no presence.

There will be no hold up play.

How many goals has Giroud scored he is slow but creates opportunity for other players. Look at Raheem how many sitters has he lost.

However, he wasn't crucified they way Ighalo has been.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:18am On Jul 11, 2018
goldfish80:

Exactly, Fortune Chukwudi is the face of age cheat. He's the ultimate reference point. There is no age cheat except it is of Fortune Chukwudi magnitude.
By the way, do you know Fortune Chukwudi passed MRI scan in Nigeria and Qatar where the team camped? I bet you didn't know.





MRI is not conclusive. A 25yr old Fortune Chukwudi passed the test with flying colors twice (in Nigeria and Qatar).

Gerrit?

I really don't why some people are refusing to accept the clear cut stone cold truth. Is it misplaced pride.

Will everyone agree that's it's impossible for a 15 year old to remain the same after 6 months there will be changes and over 2/3 years considerable changes in face, body, height, etc generally speaking. However, once you get to 21 up until your 30's you will find far less dramatic change generally speaking.

Look at a 15 year old Omeruo in 2009 and see how he has changed, and that tells a story.

Chukwudi complaint at the time was, is he the only one, why is he alone being targeted.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 10:25am On Jul 11, 2018
komekn:


They pace and technicality.

However, they are not physically robust and when it comes to set pieces we will have no presence.

There will be no hold up play.

How many goals has Giroud scored he is slow but creates opportunity for other players. Look at Raheem how many sitters has he lost.

However, he wasn't crucified they way Ighalo has been.


Oga komekn...u and did HOLD UP PLAY grin grin grin


NA inside HOLD UP DEN BORN YOU grin grin

Na d only thing wey u dey always talk abt ighalo....if I hear pim abt ighalo hold up play again undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:33am On Jul 11, 2018
goldfish80:


There's no deception here, I'm putting out what was reported and recall that 6 months to the 2009 U17 world cup, about 15 members of the supposed Nigerian team were laid off after failing they MRI test because FIFA introduced a routine check to try out players so to be on the safe side, it was better every player was tested because you don't know who will be picked at random just liked they do with dope test.
In subsequent tournaments, they stopped random check and made it mandatory to check every player.






http://www.thetidenewsonline.com/2009/11/07/eaglet%E2%80%99s-age-scandal-adokiye-sticks-to-gun/

cc Icon4s, TheGoodJoe




Are you still trying to convince these guys that MRI is not 99.9% certain? It's very very funny that I had to argue that stuff with people who have absolutely zero knowledge of basic radiography but leave them to believe whatever they want sha, MRI is the ultimate, it has no error at all

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:38am On Jul 11, 2018
komekn:


I really don't why some people are refusing to accept the clear cut stone cold truth. Is it misplaced pride.

Will everyone agree that's it's impossible for a 15 year old to remain the same after 6 months there will be changes and over 2/3 years considerable changes in face, body, height, etc generally speaking. However, once you get to 21 up until your 30's you will find far less dramatic change generally speaking.

Look at a 15 year old Omeruo in 2009 and see how he has changed, and that tells a story.

Chukwudi complaint at the time was, is he the only one, why is he alone being targeted.


it is a clear case of whoever is caught is the true and only criminal. I am sure there were other cases in that 2009 but since their own evidence wasn't exactly clear cut it was swept under the carpet and that is what has been happening ever since. In 2009 if I remember correctly, every player was tested twice, the random testing was done during the tournament proper which doesn't exactly change the fact that MRI was used for everybody. The difference now is that FIFA tests every player on their own before the tournament starts but still in 2009 every single player was tested
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 10:48am On Jul 11, 2018
tbaba1234:


It is deceptive because that was not a FIFA mandated test. It was done in house by Nigeria. It is definitely much easier for over-aged to be passed through in unregulated tests especially in a place like Nigeria.

In 2009, 1 or 2 players were tested after every match at random, this means that the bulk of the team never got tested by FIFA.

It was only in 2011, that it became a mandated regulated test conducted several times by CAF and FIFA.

It is highly unlikely that a 25 year old will pass a properly regulated MRI test.

one thing I like about you is that you are willing to accept that you are wrong....most times anyways.


let's say this as it is. Do not blame corruption in this case. They were tested in Nigeria first then in Aspire academy, do you think that Aspire academy would want to soil their good name? Or you think that an academy in Qatar would need our money? Qatar? Oil money? So I am sure in that case the NFF did their work perfectly well, this has all to do with the MRI testing, it is not definite or even close to that. It's relatively average, let's say about 65-70% that's why weight is a better determinant of age( there was a year the shell cup was based on students weight as a criteria). Even now that FIFA checks everybody what has changed? There is this Brazilian guy called mosquito from the 2011 set or so....that guy was way way older than 20 but he passed the MRI, where is he now though?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:03am On Jul 11, 2018
goldfish80:


The fact was that he came out in the clear after passing two tests in Abuja and Qatar.

Like I said earlier, the Nff tested every player in 2009 so as to ensure no one failed FIFA's random test. It was a sensible thing to do that was why they were they didn't believe Adokie's accusations till he produced picture evidence.
I have posted not less than 3 articles which clearly states that a person's chronological age is different from bone maturity.

See anything that goes through the Nigerian system alone can not be trusted.. That is fact. An unregulated test done in Nigeria is still subject to the things that happen in Nigeria.

The margin of error is not that big, It is usually +/- 2 years. That to me is an acceptable margin. A valid 16 year old can fail an MRI test if his bone has fused.

The likelihood of Fortune Chukwudi passing a regulated MRI test is low.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:10am On Jul 11, 2018
Mickael2:


one thing I like about you is that you are willing to accept that you are wrong....most times anyways.


let's say this as it is. Do not blame corruption in this case. They were tested in Nigeria first then in Aspire academy, do you think that Aspire academy would want to soil their good name? Or you think that an academy in Qatar would need our money? Qatar? Oil money? So I am sure in that case the NFF did their work perfectly well, this has all to do with the MRI testing, it is not definite or even close to that. It's relatively average, let's say about 65-70% that's why weight is a better determinant of age( there was a year the shell cup was based on students weight as a criteria). Even now that FIFA checks everybody what has changed? There is this Brazilian guy called mosquito from the 2011 set or so....that guy was way way older than 20 but he passed the MRI, where is he now though?

Whatever test was carried out for the 2009 team was unregulated making it subject to the things we do in Nigeria. Whatever test was done in Qatar was a private unregulated test not an Aspire academy test. They were not required to submit official results to any official body. This means that we can protect important players. Fortune Chukwudi was captain then, signifying his importance.

The likelihood of Fortune Chukwudi passing a valid MRI test at his age is very low.

There is a reason why we have not had scandals since 2009. The tests became mandatory.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:14am On Jul 11, 2018
Look at the current under 20 team, there are several players that you can easily prove are overage. Not just overage but far above the age limit

The 2013 and 2015 under 17 players have avoided such scandals because of Mandatory MRI tests.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 11:15am On Jul 11, 2018
Icon4s:


Beast wetin?

He is still yet to bring an 'A' game to the national team. That is what matters more to me.

Una don start all this hyping again.

Don't be a pessimist na who is hyping him? undecided
That dude is a beast locked within and he needs the man with insight to unlock the beast in him.
Kante though diminutive has proven to be a beast under 8 years.
Ndidi is gradually coming to fore and the guy is in his formative years. He will bring the "A" game when the beast is unlocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:22am On Jul 11, 2018
This is one of the players of the current under 17 team. Save the picture... In a few years, someone will tell you, he is 40.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:31am On Jul 11, 2018
OMG!!! Ebere Eze Pre season goal::

http://twitter.com/QPR/status/1016632543091838976

I hope we can start introducing players like him to the national team.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:31am On Jul 11, 2018
tbaba1234:


See anything that goes through the Nigerian system alone can not be trusted.. That is fact. An unregulated test done in Nigeria is still subject to the things that happen in Nigeria.

The margin of error is not that big, It is usually +/- 2 years. That to me is an acceptable margin. A valid 16 year old can fail an MRI test if his bone has fused.

The likelihood of Fortune Chukwudi passing a regulated MRI test is low.

Are you saying Fortune Chukwudi passed two unregulated MRI scans in Abuja and Aspire academy in Doha? Why will the Nff risk getting found out by FIFA's random test if he was picked up for routine tests in the tournament?
Are you also saying that over 15 members of the team failed unregulated MRI test 6 months to the tournament?
Obuh Names Age Cheats


No fewer than 15 players of the national U-17 squad, the Golden Eaglets have been shown the exit door out of the team by the Nigerian Football Federation, NFF in the aftermath of the recent Magnetic Resonance Imaging, MRI test conducted on them.


This meant that the players may have been above the age bracket for the U-17 Championship and are consequently knocked out of the FIFA U-17 World Cup to be staged by Nigeria from October 24 to November 15, 2009.


The players are part of coach John Obuh’s 36-man team who have been undergoing training ahead of the championship.


The sack of the 15 players also meant that coach Obuh now has 21 players available to him to prosecute the U-17 championship which Nigeria is the defending champions after lifting the trophy for the third time in 2007 in South Korea.


Complete Sports understands that Kabiru Borgo, Abiodun Akande, Ariyo Olubukola, Habib Bello and Deji Joel are among those asked to leave the camp.


Also decamped include Yakubu Azeez, Ogungbe Ganiyu, Oriji Alu, Justice Chinedu, Chinedu Udegha, Amadi Moses, Solomon Enudi, Dubem Awaziem, Esse Joseph Junior and Olaitan Gambari.


The remaining players include: Kazeem Yekinni, Paul Danjuma, Bala Mohammed Saidi, Femi Orunimi, Aliyu Mohammed and Emeka Opara.


Others are: Bala Saidi, Rahman Azeem, Fortune Chukwudi , Kenneth Omeruo, Eze Ikechukwu, Dafe Egbedi, Jude White, Terry Envoh and Ogungua Gibson.


Emmanuel Sani Shehu, Sadiq Saliu, Abduljehil Ajagun, Omoh Ajabu, Onazie Ogeyi and Anthony Iyalekhue complete the list.

https://www.nairaland.com/315034/15-under-17-players-decamped
Again you can see clearly that Fortune Chukwudi actually survived the test @bolded.
I expect apologies for suggesting I was being deceptive.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:41am On Jul 11, 2018
goldfish80:


Are you saying Fortune Chukwudi passed two unregulated MRI scans in Abuja and Aspire academy in Doha? Why will the Nff risk getting found out by FIFA's random test if he was picked up for routine tests in the tournament?
Are you also saying that over 15 members of the team failed unregulated MRI test 6 months to the tournament?

Again you can see clearly that Fortune Chukwudi actually survived the test @bolded.
I expect apologies for suggesting I was being deceptive.

My point still stands though..

These were private unregulated tests. That is what i think is deceptive. The facility where it is conducted is irrelevant. Equating the private test done by ourselves for Ourselves to a monitored controlled test.

The risk is lower in random tests because only a few players will get tested. You can certainly put in a few overaged players

In Nigeria, people take job tests and we still select those with connections. So yes, i will take a regulated test more seriously.

We only had started having FIFA mandated tests in 2011. Since then, look at the composition of players from the African continent that make the tournaments. They obviously look younger.

It is no surprise that FIFA made it mandatory in 2011 after the Fortune Chukwudi scandal

I apologize if i offended you in anyway, it was not my intention.

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