GoldHorse:


Jigawa, Enugu, Port Harcourt, Kano, Lafia, Lagos, Ibadan.... all from Abuja.

Used 60litres from Ibadan to Abuja.

Wow, cool
Volvo right?

Pipedreams:


Must some pips turn every opportunity to cyberbeg? Did she say she came to count bridges in Lagos?

Ask and you shall receive!
Pls, also give me your opinion about more durable car brands for our roads.

You shouldn't be too selective when responding to a comment.

The almighty corolla we love so much is quite durable. But the suspension components are garbage and within a while the suspension noise will start.Strongly disagree.......if you own a Corolla you won't strongly disagree on this [author=GAZZUZZ post=69591100][/quote]

after I tried Honda and Toyota several times. I give Volkswagen a trial and behold It serve me better....

salford:

The suv that sips fuel like a sedan.

Really? But it's a 4 cylinder. I don't really think so. Have you used one before or you hear they say...

ellalina:
To think of it, I allowed people talked me out of using Honda to buying toyota.
Yes my Honda leg is bad and power steering but really that is the only thing I fix. Since I got this Toyota, I keep fixing shocks and having all sort of mechanical problems.the engines like oil a lot and get heated quickly, whenever we are 3 or 4 in the car, I keel brushing the ground on rough roads or bumps. I just miss the Honda. I feel like king in it but Toyota makes me drive more carefully.
Lastly the fuel economy thing is a myth. My full tank in Honda takes me to work for 2 weeks but Toyota is like 1 week or less if I wakawaka small.

u are right, I miss my Honda bulldog. I sold it too. only thing I fix is d leg nothing more for 3years

Pipedreams:


Nah it has transmission issues

Not all I guess

FestacGirl:
Is Toyota as Reliable as we try to make it seem in this country ?.

I've come to realise it's very easy to diagnose and the China inferior parts are everywhere Hence the reason why people think the parts are cheap.

I've used quite a few toyota's and I can say they are not very solid as people try to make it seem.

I had a 2007 camry bought from the states . Started shorting oil after 9 months. This is a very common problem with this model but people never mention it.
Ps I used the recommenfed oil, Mobil 1 from USA 5w-30

The almighty corolla we love so much is quite durable. But the suspension components are garbage and within a while the suspension noise will start.
The original parts are not even cheap.
But if you patronize the cheap Chinese you might get them cheap but they give away so fast.

I'm currently using a 2008 Highlander V6 2gr (picked it over the rav4 and rx330 ) Bought it 2 months ago.

This vehicle has only 120k original miles. The movement is very quick I must say .
On the glass it states the former owner has been servicing with 5w-20 Castrol and I was lucky to find couple of service history receipts in the glove compartment.
The car has been taken cared of well. But I noticed quite a few perks in a car of such miles. It makes the dreaded grinding noise at start up. I already changed the oil with 5w-20 Mobil but still same.

Why would a car of this mile be having vvti issues then I searched Internet . This is a common issues with this vehicle, The rav4 v6 , highlander v6 , auRion and Co .
From 2006 -2010 .
Toyota didn't issue any recall infact I found out it was a night mere for most users as they sold theirs when he noise started.

I also have foul smell from the exhaust when I accelerate . My catalytic converter is in good condition. No Cel . Most people also complain of this issue on the rav4 and highlander from as low as 30k miles.

This smell is scary because even with the windows up I smell it in the interior.


Their are loads of shitty issue I've noticed on toyota but people will ignore because of the hype.

The 2gr I heard is over 500k.

The camry 4plug engine is over 250k and it's not very durable.
** Start up sounds even from using the right oil
** Burning oil .
** The engine is also quite lazy.


I feel this brand is over hyped.
And people spend hundreds repairing this cars but they don't find anything wrong in doing that.
But if it was a Honda with such problems they would give it names.



If it was a Honda or Nissan it would have been crucified.

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The business model of Auto industry has changed. Everything has expiry date. They expect you to trade in a car after 100k miles and take a newer model. Cars are not made as sturdy and reliable as they used to be. The manufacturers are more interested in aesthetics, entertainment, comfort than reliability which is why they load newer cars with electronic gadgets, sensors, etc that drive owners nuts when they develop problems. You will see a 1990 Mercedes 300E still going strong but a Toyota Camry 2003 will look like something out of a dumpster. By the way, I don't think car manufacturers have Nigeria roads in mind when they put their cars together. Roads in Nigeria could be classified as off-road. Vehicles plying them should have reinforced suspension. But do they? No.
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basic23111:
u are right, I miss my Honda bulldog. I sold it too. only thing I fix is d leg nothing more for 3years

am. Using a bulldog now. I love it

fagbohun4j:
Don’t know what to say o. And i dey save towards getting my first toyota car, been using German product (Volkswagen) since and they are very rugged. Maybe I’ll stick with my german machine.

stay with Volkswagen o, even parts are cheap, engine self cheap, and too rugged car than toyora.

fagbohun4j:
Don’t know what to say o. And i dey save towards getting my first toyota car, been using German product (Volkswagen) since and they are very rugged. Maybe I’ll stick with my german machine.

stay with Volkswagen o, even parts are cheap, engine self cheap, and too rugged car than toyora. i like German brand so much.

computerglobal:



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My tuke-tuke 2008 Toyota corolla (ZA model) is almost at 200,000km. Engine still intact. Never been opened. But suspension na issue.


car was bought brand New sha.

I don't know why people are complaining about Toyota cars here. Maybe you bought a very old car or it had a major defect. Mind you, Nigerians or dealers change the mileage of cars in Nigeria. Your best bet is if you have someone abroad that can help you get good cars.

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be like ban de hungry you

jerk:
On point, golf 3 is a very rugged car and it has stability too. Go to Kano and some other cities u will find out that its mostly use for taxi bcus of its ruggedness.
I plan on upgrading to a newer model but I don't know if they are as reliable as this model.
Honestly, I like VW product will like to know a newer model of 2007 upward that's good I can buy.

Go for Golf 4 German version not American spec o

InvertedHammer:

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The business model of Auto industry has changed. Everything has expiry date. They expect you to trade in a car after 100k miles and take a newer model. Cars are not made as sturdy and reliable as they used to be. The manufacturers are more interested in aesthetics, entertainment, comfort than reliability which is why they load newer cars with electronic gadgets, sensors, etc that drive owners nuts when they develop problems. You will see a 1990 Mercedes 300E still going strong but a Toyota Camry 2003 will look like something out of a dumpster. By the way, I don't think car manufacturers have Nigeria roads in mind when they put their cars together. Roads in Nigeria could be classified as off-road. Vehicles plying them should have reinforced suspension. But do they? No.
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Not true.. Cars now last longer than ever . we now have engines lasting for hundreds of thousands of miles. I have put almost 50,000 miles on my 2003 Camry in 3 yrs. No major faults excepts shocks, brakes, stabilizer links, transmission ,radiator and brake flush. Just got on my second set of tyres . I intend to put another 50k Miles before I let go.

You can't beat a Toyota for reliability even though I intend to get an acura next

udemzyudex:


Wow, cool
Volvo right?

Yes. Volvo.

Benzes

Kewtt:
"Das Beste oder Naichts" if you know you know

Hedonisst:


Na wa o. Sometimes I marvel at the sharp disconnect between the online world and real life. I' have always been dissuaded from VW cars because everyone says they overheat terribly. I know for sure that the Golf 4 and VW Passat (don't know about the very recent models) does that along with several other issues.

So what do you think? Is the overheating problem true, and what else should we be worried about VW cars?

electrical,that the issue but not much as people made it be, am using Golf 4

fatiuabdul:
u ar on point bro, i have used honda accord and and presently i am using Toyota Camry. personally honda ar more rugged than toyota abeg!

But what about the issue of ball joint that usually pull in Honda?

OluDare01:
I don't know why people are complaining about Toyota cars here. Maybe you bought a very old car or it had a major defect. Mind you, Nigerians or dealers change the mileage of cars in Nigeria. Your best bet is if you have someone abroad that can help you get good cars.

The problem with this though is the hassles that come with shipping it to Nigeria.

ElDeeVee:


The problem with this though is the hassles that come with shipping it to Nigeria.

You're right, especially custom duties and shipping cost.

Burning oil is commn even in my 2001 Toyota sienna.
I took it to the toyota dealer in USA in the same state where the car was manufatured. We have Toyota, Ford and Chevrolet manufaturing in my home state and lots of factory connected dealers.

The oil burning problem turns out to be a minor design defect that has been adressed in later models. Also they said no need to rebuild the engine for new rings and pistons where the oil is escaping. They say it is ok to drive the car and check the oil daily and refill as needed.
Using the recommemded oil is the best way to reduce the amount of oil lost.

Also my toyota sienna has the grinding noise on start-up but only when the engine is cold. After the engine heats up, if i stop and park with engine off, i can restart the engine with no grinding sound during start up. It is just 2 seconds of rattling and not true grinding.

The reliability of toyota is there and that means it will continue to operate for years, with oil burning if you keep topping it off.
It will continue to operate for years, with the grinding at startup.

Toyota corolla suspension parts issue is to be expected on Nigerian roads. It is possible the parts were never original Toyota parts when you got the car, if you got it used.

It is true though, Toyota has had some design faults in their cars especially in the years of 2000’s and onwards. They started to work those out on later models and still they had some issues with later models as they introduce all new transmission types and other new features that have not been time tested.

Above all, the toyota reliability rating is top notch and i would not abandon Toyota unless it was to move to Lexus. I would not even abandon Toyota even for Mercedes unless it was for the older mercedes models that were not as complicated as the new ones.
Some toyota models will not handle Nigerian roads as well as others. Corolla is of course the model with the weakest suspension of all the ones you mentioned. It is a matter of its class and also a matter of Nigerian roads. And possibly a matter of having non genuine parts previously installed without your knowing.

Also, buying any car used in Nigeria is always a hard gamble. The car may have had more miles than it is showing, but they rebuilt the car with lesser parts and rolled back the odometer to make it seem like a fresher car than it is. They even do that in USA before shipping to Nigeria. Non of these things should be overlooked in favor of faulting toyota relability.

No where to run to. You can run to Lexus and have better luck -but when the days of repair time eventually come, the cost will be enough to have bought a second ordinary toyota.

Toyota is not rated perfect. It is rated number 2 in reliability.

The key factor in reliability of toyota, is that when you buy one and it has faults, it is a car that will respond well to proper repairs and it will restore well to give longer periods of trouble free driving. Less trouble after proper repairs, less than other makes of cars that have been restored.

In Nigeria, it is usually a gamble to repair.
I am in USA and go to the main toyota dealer service center in the same state where the toyota was manufactured. I prefer now to buy a used toyota of a model year with a reliability record already established ,and then repair it to top notch condition. That is what i did with my 2001 toyota sienna. It had problems when i bought it but i inspected undeneath it to be sure the frame and body was solid and free from rust. After that, it is a perfect platform for restoration. I spent in repairs, equal to about 120% of the car’s low purchase price.
4 Quality new tires and alignment , timing belt, other drive belts and water pump, new brakes and entire brake system service, full flush and replace of coolant, transmission oil, engine oil and also charge the A/C. Did some work on the stabilizer bar that was broken and got a reacall spare tire stow-mount service free of charge. I also did a head gasket and spark plug replacement after they told me an insignificant leak was coming from the head gasket. I wanted to take care of it right away rather than wait as they said would be easy for the car to handle.
New battery after 1.5 years of using the car. And little things like rain wiper replacement, light bulbs. The rest has just been regular maintenance.

Even if the transmission goes bad or the engine starts to fail, i will have confidence to fix those. I have engine noise at start-up and oil loss, but my research showed that i can easily get another 100k miles and more before doing any engine rebuild. The oil loss is not an issue that affects the engine so far as i keep the engine oil regulary changed and topped off and daily checked. Also the engine noise at start-up is not an issue as long as i keep the engine oil changed and fresh.
So i always travel with spare oil and if i drive long distances, i check the oil level every time i stop for petrol.
In fact, i do not even wait for my oil to turn dark. I change it every 3000 miles even when the oil says i can wait until 6000 mile. I change it
even if the oil looks fresh colored at 3000 miles. It is the price i pay to be sure my oil burn and startup noise do not get complicated.

The oil service discipline will take me far and an aspect of reliability is how long the car can manage with minor problems before it gets complicated.
The Toyota dealer service center has told me not to worry about oil burn or the startup noise and cleared me to drive a 3000 mile journey over 8 consecutive days of driving, crossing international borders. All they say is keep strictly to the regular service and it will manage very well.
I have since done the 6000 mile round trip, twice now, and no new problems have occured. The car is still as reliable and smooth as it was 12k miles ago. And i am set to take the same trip again at the end of this year.

People can say Lagos state has problems and that statement will be correct. People can say Abuja has problems and that will be correct.
People can say Borno state has problems and that will be correct. You must correct yourself in which state of problems you want to live. Will you sell your lagos or abuja home and go buy Borno state home?

Same with cars. All cars have problems. Which car are you going to buy that does not have issues beyond toyota?
For me, when my toyota finally lets me down, i already have my plan B in waiting.
I will commot my old toyota and go look for another toyota in newer and better condition.
Maybe i would even consider Subaru Outback as a good replacement but i still favor Toyota sienna for its interior capacity.
If not for Toyota Sienna’s spacious interior, i would be driving Subaru Outback that has standard all wheel drive.
Maybe Subaru is not easy to have in Nigeria because of limited repair outlets for its different engine design and sometimes complicated front wheel drive assembly. Subaru Reliability compares well to toyota and even better in some aspects, but not as easy to repair Subaru and find Subaru parts in Nigeria.

Eking:


Not true.. Cars now last longer than ever . we now have engines lasting for hundreds of thousands of miles. I have put almost 50,000 miles on my 2003 Camry in 3 yrs. No major faults excepts shocks, brakes, stabilizer links, transmission ,radiator and brake flush. Just got on my second set of tyres . I intend to put another 50k Miles before I let go.

You can't beat a Toyota for reliability even though I intend to get an acura next

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With all the faults you listed above, what else are you expecting?

Transmission? Manual gear is awesome and easy to fix. No. Cars are not lasting longer. If they do, manufacturers will go out of business. Some of them go as far as putting proprietary parts in cars that you can only get from their dealership.

Most importantly, maintenance is the key. Although some cars require TLC than others until the owner gives up. You want to put another 50k in a 2003 Camry before letting it go. Why? I mentioned 1990 300E still going strong and you can't wait to let go of 2003. In other words, you surreptitiously agreed with my points.

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FestacGirl:
Is Toyota as Reliable as we try to make it seem in this country ?.

I've come to realise it's very easy to diagnose and the China inferior parts are everywhere Hence the reason why people think the parts are cheap.

I've used quite a few toyota's and I can say they are not very solid as people try to make it seem.

I had a 2007 camry bought from the states . Started shorting oil after 9 months. This is a very common problem with this model but people never mention it.
Ps I used the recommenfed oil, Mobil 1 from USA 5w-30

The almighty corolla we love so much is quite durable. But the suspension components are garbage and within a while the suspension noise will start.
The original parts are not even cheap.
But if you patronize the cheap Chinese you might get them cheap but they give away so fast.

I'm currently using a 2008 Highlander V6 2gr (picked it over the rav4 and rx330 ) Bought it 2 months ago.

This vehicle has only 120k original miles. The movement is very quick I must say .
On the glass it states the former owner has been servicing with 5w-20 Castrol and I was lucky to find couple of service history receipts in the glove compartment.
The car has been taken cared of well. But I noticed quite a few perks in a car of such miles. It makes the dreaded grinding noise at start up. I already changed the oil with 5w-20 Mobil but still same.

Why would a car of this mile be having vvti issues then I searched Internet . This is a common issues with this vehicle, The rav4 v6 , highlander v6 , auRion and Co .
From 2006 -2010 .
Toyota didn't issue any recall infact I found out it was a night mere for most users as they sold theirs when he noise started.

I also have foul smell from the exhaust when I accelerate . My catalytic converter is in good condition. No Cel . Most people also complain of this issue on the rav4 and highlander from as low as 30k miles.

This smell is scary because even with the windows up I smell it in the interior.


Their are loads of shitty issue I've noticed on toyota but people will ignore because of the hype.

The 2gr I heard is over 500k.

The camry 4plug engine is over 250k and it's not very durable.
** Start up sounds even from using the right oil
** Burning oil .
** The engine is also quite lazy.


I feel this brand is over hyped.
And people spend hundreds repairing this cars but they don't find anything wrong in doing that.
But if it was a Honda with such problems they would give it names.



If it was a Honda or Nissan it would have been crucified.

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Use polytron ultra performance lubrication technology for efficient engine performance.

InvertedHammer:

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With all the faults you listed above, what else are you expecting?

Transmission? Manual gear is awesome and easy to fix. No. Cars are not lasting longer. If they do, manufacturers will go out of business. Some of them go as far as putting proprietary parts in cars that you can only get from their dealership.

Most importantly, maintenance is the key. Although some cars require TLC than others until the owner gives up. You want to put another 50k in a 2003 Camry before letting it go. Why? I mentioned 1990 300E still going strong and you can't wait to let go of 2003. In other words, you surreptitiously agreed with my points.

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I did not replace the transmission I only changed the fluid. I want to let go after 100k miles (160,000 km) cos I want a change . The other parts I replaced are suspension parts which wore out cos of baf roads.

Also Toyotas are boring to drive hence me wanting to get an acura.

But I still stand that Toyotas are the most reliable.

How many of those 1990 300E's can you take on a 1000mile trip without knocking the engines . Abeg forget those old cars. There is a reason by Toyota and Lexus tops the reliability ratings.

FestacGirl:
Is Toyota as Reliable as we try to make it seem in this country ?.

I've come to realise it's very easy to diagnose and the China inferior parts are everywhere Hence the reason why people think the parts are cheap.

I've used quite a few toyota's and I can say they are not very solid as people try to make it seem.

I had a 2007 camry bought from the states . Started shorting oil after 9 months. This is a very common problem with this model but people never mention it.
Ps I used the recommenfed oil, Mobil 1 from USA 5w-30

The almighty corolla we love so much is quite durable. But the suspension components are garbage and within a while the suspension noise will start.
The original parts are not even cheap.
But if you patronize the cheap Chinese you might get them cheap but they give away so fast.

I'm currently using a 2008 Highlander V6 2gr (picked it over the rav4 and rx330 ) Bought it 2 months ago.

This vehicle has only 120k original miles. The movement is very quick I must say .
On the glass it states the former owner has been servicing with 5w-20 Castrol and I was lucky to find couple of service history receipts in the glove compartment.
The car has been taken cared of well. But I noticed quite a few perks in a car of such miles. It makes the dreaded grinding noise at start up. I already changed the oil with 5w-20 Mobil but still same.

Why would a car of this mile be having vvti issues then I searched Internet . This is a common issues with this vehicle, The rav4 v6 , highlander v6 , auRion and Co .
From 2006 -2010 .
Toyota didn't issue any recall infact I found out it was a night mere for most users as they sold theirs when he noise started.

I also have foul smell from the exhaust when I accelerate . My catalytic converter is in good condition. No Cel . Most people also complain of this issue on the rav4 and highlander from as low as 30k miles.

This smell is scary because even with the windows up I smell it in the interior.


Their are loads of shitty issue I've noticed on toyota but people will ignore because of the hype.

The 2gr I heard is over 500k.

The camry 4plug engine is over 250k and it's not very durable.
** Start up sounds even from using the right oil
** Burning oil .
** The engine is also quite lazy.


I feel this brand is over hyped.
And people spend hundreds repairing this cars but they don't find anything wrong in doing that.
But if it was a Honda with such problems they would give it names.



If it was a Honda or Nissan it would have been crucified.

The recommended oil 5W30 you mentioned isn't recommended for the Nigerian temperatures. Use the 20W50 Mobil (ordinary Mobil) na 4000 - 4500 naira only.

hope4nigeria:
exactly my opinion, my golf 3 has been serving me everyday for the past six years without any major issue. I Used #5000 fuel from abuja to Lagos in less than than 10hrs. The strongest TOYOTA can never give you that value. I don't do Toyota

5k fuel?
That's like 30 litres for 750km journey?



Pls how possible?

Kewtt:
"Das Beste oder Nichts" if you know you know

The best or Nothing.

WeirdWolf:


The recommended oil 5W30 you mentioned isn't recommended for the Nigerian temperatures. Use the 20W50 Mobil (ordinary Mobil) na 4000 - 4500 naira only.

Who said 20w50 is the recommended for Nigerian temprature?