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| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by GAZZUZZ(op): 3:56pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks:We are looking out for the client long term, 1 branch, 1 quality control manager, this method works for us too. for this engine client will get 1year warranty and I will sleep well at night. Engine will live a good life. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 4:00pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ:Then offer the customer both options. Let them pick. And your quality control is limited as far as you luck upon a good engine in your estimation. Ours isn't. Fact of the matter is once we do a repair/rebuild, if three months go by without incident, it's going years. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by Carshopper(m): 4:10pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks:for decades b4 nairaland, mechanics have been doing the 3Rs. It willnot change. What will change is the detailed processes to achieving best results |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 4:12pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
To the house, I want to reiterate one thing. WE ARE NOT ANTI-REPLACE. We are anti-rampant and irresponsible replace with the conditions in Nigeria. We replaced all the time in the USA if it was best for the customer and this was one of our approved suppliers for engines and transmissions http://www.lkqcorp.com/en-us/ They provided us both used and REMAN engines but have VERY tight quality control and provided warranties even on the used (equivalent to tokunbo) engines and transmissions. I'm sure quite a few of our diaspora enthusiasts are familiar with them. All repairs for us are based on what we feel will benefit the customer in the long term not what is convenient or more comfortable for us. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by GAZZUZZ(op): 4:12pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks:There you Go with assumptions. Why do you feel we don't repair engines? we do all the time IF we weigh the options and feel client will get a better deal LONGTERM. You had to shut down major engine and transmission repairs for one month because the Boss will be unavailable, now imagine what happens when you have 30 of those jobs thrown at you in 1 day. Certain jobs will require a Full rebuild (sludge related jobs and thrown rods) Some will just require a new piston (hydrolock), some will just require a new camshaft (BMW) Not every engine should be scrapped. But when the wrong engine is in the car already what do you do? ![]() |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by GAZZUZZ(op): 4:18pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
meanwhile the stock Headgasket for a 2AZ-FE is double layer please note ![]() This was stock. no kazeem will even dream of using a metal gasket with worn threads on a 2az. This was stock www.nairaland.com/attachments/7630414_screenshot20180825084106_jpeg8c5791695fe0f3a22639ce557d7f996d
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| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 4:20pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ:I felt it's time I did some assuming of my own since you've been doing so much and even you admitted earlier that it's your knee jerk response to most which is why you suggested it sight unseen to the customer we talked about earlier. We chose to shut major repairs down for one month because we have stringent requirements of our techs which take longer than the three months we've been open to instill. Had he needed to travel a year from now, it wouldn't have been a problem because the culture would be set. As it is, we have great techs but they still have some habits and methods used here we do not approve of. E.g. Wanting to run to Ladipo to find engines as the initial thought because it's easier. The rest of your statement has been our point all along so thank you? |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 4:21pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ:Gazzuzz, Gazzuzz. Pretty sure you saw "counterfeit" in that sentence. Also, any replacement you buy in the USA is three layer SMH. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 4:28pm On Aug 25, 2018*. Modified: 7:57pm On Aug 26, 2018 |
At this point, I'm sure people are starting to wonder why you are desperately hell-bent at nit-picking at the jobs we have been doing. Digging up VINs (which by the way led you to incorrect assumptions), poring through pictures we willingly gave, trying to ascribe symptoms to vehicles that never existed... I think we all know the answer. I'll keep posting work we are doing and you can keep going over it with a microscope to see what you can find fault with. You may get lucky and find something. Happy hunting! ![]() |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 4:31pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
GAZZUZZ:Gazzuzz, Gazzuzz. Pretty sure you saw "counterfeit" in the original sentence. It wasn't stock and there is another side-by side we posted to show you Also, any replacement you buy in the USA is three layer SMH. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by antagonist: 4:34pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks:i have to say, you come across as condescending we understand that there are ways of doing things that you're used to, you have your own habits and methods which have worked for you in the past in a totally different environment with different norms and a different culture don't assume that those exact methods would work for you in the same way in a totally different environment, "Standard" is very relative someone mentioned this earlier, I'll do so again, this now-personal back and forth has totally derailed the constructive discussion that I think was supposed to be the point of this thread you've made your point, gazzuzz you've made yours. the mature thing here would be for both of you to put an end to this degenerating situation, especially because I have the distinct feeling that there's more to this than just professional rivalry |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by antagonist: 4:43pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 4:45pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
antagonist:I'm not sure why you feel I'm being condescending. Let's be fair here. Each time I have ended with to each his own, he has decided to continue trying to drag our repairs. I go to sleep, I wake up, another of my posts is under the microscope and bring misrepresented. Conversation continues. I am not the condescending one here. Look back at everything that's been said. It's gone on for SEVEN pages of a repair I shared that he tried to shred. Have I tried to denigrate any of his work? That particular statement, he tried to say we didn't know what belonged in the car while neglecting to accurately quote our post. If you saw the original post, your will see why I responded that way. Plus he's been at this "out of context" thing since yesterday and I will not be misquoted. I wonder about this professional thing myself because from day one I've said we just want the entire car repair environment to change. I have received a few pot shots which I've ignored because of this goal. Take a look at the links below and then tell me who seems to have a problem here. This has been a consistent theme. https://www.nairaland.com/4672565/how-much-should-expect-pay#70358455 Was looking for the link to our original repair post he referenced but I can't find it. Even in this thread I've said to let it lie multiple times but no. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 4:55pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
antagonist:THANK YOU. This is what I've been asking for since last night! |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by thebigkendo(m): 5:10pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
ElshanAutos please come & help us close this thread ![]() |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by AutoElectNG: 5:13pm On Aug 25, 2018*. Modified: 9:45pm On Aug 26, 2018 |
What Radautoworks is doing is perfectly in order. Overseas we have service advisors and service writers....they are knowledgeable in automotive matters and they don't touch wrenches, yet they deal with the customer, ASE even has a certification for them. So it must not be Glen speaking before the word should be considered.
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| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by asamwababy: 5:45pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Madam Radautos You should be used to this peeps who dont take corrections and are not ready to learn. Even when threads are opened to complain about their services, the mods hide them to paint a picture they are all perfect. The joy and love for replacing engines knows no bounds here. Dont bother educating anybody, you are a corporate organization with a clear vision for growth,development,expansion,good ethics with proper customer relationship management. Only time will tell. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by obekediamondfuto(m): 5:56pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks:please, what does the warranty cover? total engine failure from. any internal part or just failure due to rebuilt /swapped parts? just curious tho cos the way u changed it for us in this post speaks volumes oh... |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by MotoMedics: 6:09pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
radautoworks:Anty. You keep mentioning warranty. And 6 months. Customers don't want to eat warranty o. They want a hassle free car forever. After 6 months, to your tent ho Isreal. This table you have come to shake, no be today o. And yes, there is shortage of technical expertise in the Nigerian automotive space. I like your zeal to pull this through, and make the desired change. But are u sure you are not just pushing to sell parts (bloated) with a warranty tag. I am sure glen does supervisory work, and does not carry out all repairs. You must have hired techies, not reformed kazeems that understand standard process. In the interest of customers, they deserve the best, and options should be given to them. But I can toast anybody to do my bidding, they believe we know better. This your set up only encourages part sales and warranty onyibo to tie any fella down and not real repairs per say(I swear I want to be wrong). Time. Time. Time. Let's give radautoworks time. Glen won't fix all cars. Time. Time. The Nigerian automotive space needs a lot of training for its techies. And you coming over is a positive, and to champion a movement that will shape this landscape. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by thebigkendo(m): 6:20pm On Aug 25, 2018*. Modified: 6:45pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto: radautoworks: radautoworks:From my understanding, they dismantled engine & Identified defective parts.. So warranties covers the whole engine.. Well as long as no abuse. So now the question is "what is definition of abuse" Modified Team replacement also warrantee engine.. As long as mobil 1 is used to service it.. Am sure some other conditions will also void team replace warrantee. Bros Gazzuzz assuming i buy that your clean 40k miles 2az-fe with 1 year warrantee on mobil 1 AFS diet...after about 2 months for Abj - Kaduna express, on a Friday few hour to Friday prayers I come race one Malo guy driving a Brabus with 6.3-liter twin-turbo V12 ..........we know the outcome ![]() Will my warrantee be void? Will you replace the engine |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by MotoMedics: 6:20pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
diportivo: . I don't know why this comment cracks me up so bad |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by thebigkendo(m): 6:21pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
New accounts are already coming oh!!! We dey look. Jeje |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by obekediamondfuto(m): 6:23pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
MotoMedics:bro there are so many mini - hidden clauses that can be used to void a warranty...... another perspective is when a 250+ engine is diagnosed with a worn out crankshaft and bad oil pump...... is the warranty going to be on the crankshaft and oil pump for six months or the whole engine with probably 30per life remaining in the other remaining components? another perspective tho.... I learned the about warranty the hard way from SLOT but I'm not here to rekindle Any flame oh like u said, time will tell... most times like this, I want to be wrong.... but bitter experiences of the past and the challenges one had to overcome to put them in the past makes one kinda harder to accept such "looks too good to be true" deals. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by obekediamondfuto(m): 6:28pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
[quote author=thebigkendo post=70604303][/quote]bros, in this my **years of living...... I have seen quite a lot we need to ask questions o....even when we heard or read correctly.... sometimes I paraphrase my partner just to be sure I got the intended message. SLOT came and did all they did but today......... even when buying from them, u need to be very very observant. my reason for that question is to be sure cos I have already referred some guys there from my office...... make e no come be anoda thing and I had to quote them so I can easily refer to my earlier posts instead of searching ....this is of course, if this thread doesn't seem appealing to elshanautos.... else it won't last 1more day |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by mayor2013: 6:33pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:Tell me about that slot. Have also got a story ![]() |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by obekediamondfuto(m): 6:35pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
thebigkendo:brotherly let's just try and hide this post from elshan, at least we are sure that if any internal part fails and it was previously diagnosed to be in top shape then aunty radu will bear full responsibility...... in my own case 70per of my money back.... I no go wan do another remans rebuild...... that is what I told those guys I sent there..... thank you for collating this posts.... make I rush archive am.... not that I think I'll be needing it oh... just to brag to people about aunty radu |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by AutoElectNG: 6:38pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
thebigkendo:Did I not say I saw war coming from afar? What is happening now is that the war may have gone proxy....we get others to fight for us....we give them ammunition...we don't get seen....but it is our war....others are fighting it for us...lol |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by obekediamondfuto(m): 6:47pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
mayor2013:my boss in my former organization bought a phone from SLOT.... in 2013....@ slot banex plaza or so in Abuja, came back to the office was playing with the phone - all on a Friday. Monday morning, boss brought the phone complaining that the phone went off same Friday night and has refused to come on ...i said it must be battery..... long story short I went to slot with the phone and receipt and story started.... they now wanted to repair phone..... I left without the receipt and the tech phone no..... called and started hearing stuff like the sn is different that the phone was REMANS or refurbished in naija language..... that it wasn't brand new.... @this point, I bought the case.... a full blooded Lagos Guy? for Abuja with all those boti boti boiz speaking grammar? boss wanted to involve police... I said make I first reach there. got there and with suit, won them in grammar, ruggedity etc their manager just entered store and brought another phone and gave me.... I still refused... that I want to make sure I tell the whole world what was happening there, meanwhile my driver was taping the whole scene with my phone...... they had to beg me to accept the "Replacement" turns out, their workers were swapping new phones with refurbished ones, resealing them and selling as new. got back to the office and boss gave me 10k #word# first slot story, also have with jumia and konga... look up my topics u will see one of them there..... so with all these my trials and when the going gets rough, all forms of vices are employed to void the warranty.... my brother it's hard for me oh... that's y, me.... I'll be needing my 70per and not another rebuild in any incident |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by GAZZUZZ(op): 6:48pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
thebigkendo:They said i should not talk, I have ban my self till tomorrow. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 6:50pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
asamwababy:Thank you. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by radautoworks: 6:53pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:I love your healthy skepticism. Warranties are based on what we do. 100% coverage for this car on parts and labor related to this repair. E.g. if it turns out we should have replaced Pistons, it's covered. It really is hassle-free. |
| Re: To Rebuild Or To Replace? by thebigkendo(m): 6:56pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
obekediamondfuto:I remember when Samsung highend phones had screen warranty.. My guy broke & replaced his note 4 screen 3 times.. No question asked by samsung.. Free of charge We all told him; dem go tell you story, e no go work.. But it worked.. So my point is sometimes looking too good to be true might be true!! Slot dey give warrantee?? I have claimed warrantee more than once on mobile phones bought from SLOT..I did not go to back SLOT. Went to manufacturer service centre with my slot reciept.. Calcare twice & LG service center twice also. |
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