₦airaland Forum

chisco82:
See question, have you ever call for restructuring and the Igbos refuse to come? We have been clamouring for it.

MrJanuzaj:
SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit.

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine.

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'.

REWIND TO 2014.
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance.

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did.

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more.

Now barely 5 months to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma.

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023?
On what grounds?
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone?
Is it an appeasement or a gift?

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested.

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game.

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary abuse from nonentities . As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu.

(c) Dr Uche Diala

MrJanuzaj:
SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit.

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine.

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'.

REWIND TO 2014.
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance.

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did.

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more.

Now barely 5 months to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma.

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023?
On what grounds?
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone?
Is it an appeasement or a gift?

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested.

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game.

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?


I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary abuse from nonentities . As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu.

(c) Dr Uche Diala

phase1:
You mor0ns in APC think you are wise. You think you can play on the intelligence of Igbos by writting horseshit in a bid to sway Igbos into voting a party run by anti-Igbo bigots and chauvinists?

Buhari had a chance to placate the Igbos and even lure many of us into APC but what did he do, he ran to Aljazeera in euphoria of victory and called SE and SS 5%ers who deserved to be marginalized and you think the Easterners should reward him with more votes in 2023? You lots in APC must be very dense in the head.

If the east sees your APC as a party of pestilence and scourge which must never be touched, your Buhari made it so. Blame him.

When nigeria is ready for Igbo presidency and for peace we will know, the major parties will field Igbo candidates alone and ensure that an Igbo must become president just like they did when yorubas were killing non-indigenes because Abiola was poisoned in prison by the fulanis. Anyother thing is just jamboree and fallacies.
No one can deceive the Igbos with the presidency because they want Igbo votes badly

Buhari insulted the East, sent soldiers to kill maim, destroy and bury our youths alive in unmarked graves. The East will not legitimize or accredit that abomination by voting him.

His minions here have told us that the Eastern region are only 5% of the voting population (how they did their own maths I don't know) so why bother us with 'Vote APC and get Igbo presidency rhetorics'

Useless cursed Efulefus!

ObaIgwe1:
lol... Insults, day-dreaming and continual playing of emotional cards like you are doing will not cut it for Igbos. Wake up and smell the coffee. Politics is about self interests and numbers.

Either in 2023 or 2017 whenever PDP decides to zone presidency to the south and no Igbo man still get the ticket, maybe then you will wake up. Because it's not likely to go igbo way if the likes of Wike and other guys from SS or SW are contending. Check the figures bro, Igbos have the least political figures in the south to force anything their way except they play intelligent and smart politics...Its not gonna be by shouting and screaming on social media or insulting and blaming everyone out there.

Yyeske:
OK, you want others to call for it and invite you? What stopped you from convening the restructuring meeting and inviting others?

Alexk2:
It was terrible back then. There was a tape circulated about even in churches claiming APC was an Islamic party and Buhari is coming to establish Islamic agenda and so much hate speeches everywhere against the then opposition party; APC and her bigwigs like Tinubu.
We just have to do away with that type of politics.


@ the topic, I just wish and hope SE get the politics right this time around and stop been used as porn in Nigeria political chess game.

goaldynboy:
O Boy what are you smoking?! So Ekweremadu and other PDP Senators are not from "2 MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES?!!"

Myjanuzaj:
You cant get sovereignty or at least restructuring without playing the national game. If igbos had gotten the Senate presidency in 2015 at least we would have had someone to front what we want for us. But in 2015, southeast was the only region that did not produce Senators from the 2 majors political parties.

chisco82:
Haba! Bros me, are you in Nigeria at all or do want to know what i will say. We have been clamouring for it.

Myjanuzaj:
Another talk of a frustrated ipob criminal. Anybody that said the truth is a yoruba muslim. How do you expect me to reply your useless questions when you already tag me what i am not. For your information i did not sign any pact with anybody that i will hate buhari as an igbo person.

Yyeske:
You mentioned me so I'll ask you a question, what is it Ndigbo want?

Myjanuzaj:
Thank God you said you hate him. How better has it made you. You hate your fellow human being for nothing. Shame no de catch you


.A group of boys were going to the field to play, he came accross a mango tree and on top of the mango tree is a ripe nice and delicious looking mango, this mango enticed them so much that they started using stones to bring it down from the height it is. They tried this for many hours but could not. One of them said to the other, "I think that mango up there is sour, so wont be sweet" the other boy agreed with him and they walked away without feeling bad.

Yyeske:
How do you get that 'fair playing ground' if you don't participate in national politics, how do you want others to hear your view when you decide not associate with them?

Mordecai:
It's this simple:

A true federation, a country made up of true federating units, voluntarily and happily contributing to the union, growing at their own pace, and enjoying the benefits of the mutual union.

This is as opposed to the present situation, which enthrones one overlord above all members of the union, who then takes decisions binding on all of them, irrespective of how it affects them. This present union only sees the all the units fighting for air and for a chance at the plum, instead of growing the plums in their respective zones.

As a people with a strong attachment to their way of life, but able and willing to live with others, a people for whom Unity is not an elusive el Dorado, but a real prize to aspire to, we cannot join this fray. We need to chart a progressive course.

And for this, we cannot pretend that all is well. We are being honest about it as a people, and we are telling the whole world: "We want a restructured federation. We do not want a President like Buhari, not because he is Hausa/Fulani or Muslim (heck, we gave his brother Yaradua full support), but because he is divisive. Let us restructure the federation and get a detribalized Nigerian to navigate us through the straits."

That is what Ndigbo want.

Amumaigwe:
This Afonja is as confused as a buffo-n. I can never be ashamed of hating much more anyone that hates me just because I am who God created me to be, Igbo.

How better has it made me? We are faring better that you lots as it has been from the beginning, as it is now and ever shall be till the end of time; because I am IGBO.

Saidu22:
U spoke well, he/she that has ear let he/she hear. I personally will support Igbo presidency come 2023, on condition that they should also support the current administration to finish they tenure because u can't put something on nothing and expect it stand.

Yyeske:
On nairaland or where? What is Ekweremadu in the PDP doing about it? Remember he's the highest Igbo politician today

Yyeske:
I love the reply but don't you think we need to get into mainstream national politics to achieve this, I mean a level of power where we can influence others to agreeing with us so as to achieve our aim? Do you think we can go it all alone?
Think about it

Yyeske:
You are the one playing the victim here, Igbos live all over the country and they can't be living there if they are hated.

Yyeske:
I love the reply but don't you think we need to get into mainstream national politics to achieve this, I mean a level of power where we can influence others to agreeing with us so as to achieve our aim? Do you think we can go it all alone?
Think about it

dignity33:
AFONJA PRETENDING TO BE IGBO, LET ME CORRECT YOU BUHARI AND APC ARE NOT THE OWNER OF NIGERIA THAT IS ONE THING WITH BLACK MENTALITY SO BECAUSE IGBOS CHOOSE TO SUPPORT GEJ, NOW NO MEANINGFUL DEVELOPMENT WILL BE GIVING TO THE REGION FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION. YOU CLAIM TO BE LITERATE BUT WITH YOUR REASONS ILLITERATE THINK BETTER THAN YOU MOREOVER IGBOS ARE NOT EVEN THINKING OF BECOMING PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA WHAT MOST AVERAGE IGBOS WANT IS GOOD GOVERNANCE FOR ALL OR BIAFRA.

positivethought:
very simple,let the Igbo's ask APC to be categorical n promised the Igbo's the presidency in 2023 n let's see what will be the response!.

Yyeske:
On nairaland or where? What is Ekweremadu in the PDP doing about it? Remember he's the highest Igbo politician today

Myjanuzaj:
Nobody will give you such promise, you have to earn it. You refused every overtures from APC when the party is being formed, now you want an express promise. No way. Show commitment and get the ticket through the right politicking.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
EVEN YOU DEY FORM IGBO? LOL

marv1:
YES you are right about the region but this region knows politics than any other region which gives them advantage. They support themselves politically which gives them their gain.
Why was it that not all Igbos support ojukwu when he contested for presidential election.
In Igbo land they are are more divisions among them than anything which is the reason why are failng politically.
Winning election is not by mouth or wishes but by numbers.
So the north knows what it takes to produce president but the East does not, rather they are used to abusing other regions that can help them make their dream come true..
So if there is no change of attitude the opportunity to produce the next president will continue to elude them..