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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 2:59pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
A cruise trip to the Central Island of Lake Turkana.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 3:05pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
rvp2018: Can you provide evidence anywhere that Nigeria was ever denied huge lending sums or loans by the World Bank or lMF? lf you can't then you're just stating rvp facts from your arse again. Nigerian federal budget is 20 Billion dollars because... 1) corruption is the bane of the Nigerian Government ( for example the Nigerian Senate has some of the highest salaries for Senate's in the world, there have been several lootings as well). We have heard of lootings from Nigeria of close to 90 Billion dollars, and recently there was an investigation for a missing 20 Billion dollars. 2) Nigerian revenue is largely dependent on 60 Billion dollars worth of oil much more than taxes. There are a whole lot of financial bodies especially in Lagos whose taxes would contribute a lot but some evade taxes, while some just do not pay. Government is working on this ( though slowly). 3) ,The federal budget is separate from budget for states. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:05pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
Another Gem in Turkana is this Detention Camp right in the middle of the desert. This is where the British colonialists jailed Jomo Kenyatta and five others for engaging in Freedom Fighting Activities including the famous Mau Mau, which they considered terrorism. This particular house is called Kenyatta House as thats where the budding man was kept. Each one had his house. They took them as far North, remote and interior as they could so they wouldnt pose a threat. The detention camps are today part of the Turkana Desert Museum
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:06pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
Kazikazi: We are not impressed. Nice bus though, made in Kenya. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:08pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
The 2018 Code Burt Award Winner is a Kenyan
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:12pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
I have seen the loans offers you get - very similar to kenya - and you always struggle to pay. It's not rocket science. You have as much reveunue as kenya - and therefore you can only borrow as much. You cannot be approved for 200-250B - about 50% of you GDP - as is the rule of the thumb- because you've no chance in hell of repaying it. So with 70B debt - you're already in a big hole - because you real GDP is around 150-200B. Daejoyoung: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:16pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
Kazikazi: Your gas has not helped you. Your people have no power like Nigeria even with your gas and oil. Tanzanians should wake up before they become another DRC. Your natural wealth has not done anything for you. You are the poorest country in East Africa. The most uneducated, most paranoid and still practice witchcraft. Your gas and Tanzanite is a curse! 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 3:19pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
rvp2018:Nah, we don't borrow much because it's one of the things Nigerians generally detest in a Government. Nigerians are generally proud and conservative when it comes to borrowing, and the presidency is usually careful. Nigerians believe we have the resources and the money and do not need to borrow, and that Government borrows because it's corrupt. This for instance is the current outcry against Buhari, we are more conservative than you Kenyans or Ghanians ( Who recently indicated interest in floating a 50 Billion dollars bond) when it comes to things like these. l have listed reasons in my previous post why the Nigerian federal budget is 20Billion dollars. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:19pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
Daejoyoung: That list has no basis. Seems the writer used his inner gut feelings. We need real quantifiable and tangible basis for a proper ranking like the one provided by the WEF. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 3:26pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
TayserMahiri:When it comes to domestic air travel in Africa, Kenya is the king According to travel data company Forward Keys, Nairobi’s domestic air travel recorded 22% growth in 2017, beating its closest competitors Tunis and Addis Ababa, which grew by 14% and 9% respectively. In addition, long-haul international flights to Nairobi grew by 8%, making it the only major African city where domestic air travel is outpacing international traffic. 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:28pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
It nothing to do with pride. It everything to do with ability to repay. Nigeria had big debt crisis in 80s and 90s - when Oil prices crushed and certainly they were unable to repay.Most of that debt had to be repay. That is what inform their fear of loans. Right now you basically have no taxes or revenues to repay any serious loans - you can only bet on the oil prices going up - or you going burst. Daejoyoung: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:28pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
kikuyu1: Well I am zero in economics , I get prepared reports by experts which I simply context in the nature of the threat assessments. And to be fair I don't rely on these metrics they r too convulated and incorrect and a snare by external actors I believe in the strength of the microeconomics which is a better indice since foreign manipulation is minimum here 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:30pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
obaaderemi: Obaboon's bullshit paragraphs have been reduced to monkey chants. I told you, natural law is supreme. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 3:32pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
sufferNsmiling:I can see that, that name "Nigeria" has hurt you so bad that you can't just let go off it. That Name "Nigeria" will make you commite suicide if care is not taking. Mark my worlds? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 3:42pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
rvp2018:That's what I'm saying, we depend more on oil for revenue, that's why it is foolish to measure the GDP based on our revenue alone. And yes you are right, we fear we have no ability to repay because our revenue seems limited to oil and is not much, we also fear moreso for our high level of corruption which may see the loans diverted without tangible infrastructure. However this is different from your arguement that the world bodies are afraid of giving us heavy loans( rather than that we are scared of requesting for heavy loans). lt is this part of your arguement, l and Obi Kenobi 1 have asked you to substantiate several times with proof, but you have failed to do so. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 3:51pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
TayserMahiri:Nigeria has the second largest number of tech hubs in Africa( 58 to SA's 59). Kenya as a whole has 31, same as Lagos alone in Nigeria. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 3:52pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
TayserMahiri:Nah man, boko haram won't even think of coming to minna with the kind of tight security we have in Minna. Boko haram will never ever dream of coming to minna. When boko haram leader sent letter to the Governor of Minna, that minna is their next target. The governor informed the police and the army, everywere where covered with security. Armys, police, civil defence etc. The armys blocked the city gate while the police wher busy roming around the city, some of the police even use chopper. They did that for about 3 month we did not see any boko haram. Have u ever heard of Bomblast in Minna? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 4:01pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
jaycent:The reason BokoHaram survived this long in the North East may be due to extremism, and the corrupt politicians fielding them with information to extend the insurgency for their own gains, BokoHaram would hardly survive outside that terrain. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 4:17pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
Kerio valley, Kenya https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerio_Valley 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 4:20pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
Kur17:Ain't you tired of posting all these? Why not take them all to your Kenyan Swahili forums or Sky Scraper. These pictures alone are boring if you are not posting them for our knowledge or fun. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kur17: 4:27pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
Daejoyoung: What do you mean by knowledge or fun...that's the link learn more about the great Riftvalley. You guys have always been cheerleaders of Tanzanian sceneries "ooh Tanzania is more beautiful than Kenya" ...what about Nigeria? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Beey(f): 4:52pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
Beey:So your people have brought their wahala to Kenyans on Facebook, the page is Group Kenya.Come see fight� |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:18pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
nemesis8u: Some nice points but on the religion part, dont get delirious. In the western world they long lost their traditional religions and picked up religions from the middle east, a region they lord over and that is quite the shithole. Religion alone cant take you far today. Innovation will. You sound revisionist! Your religion (Hinduism) is the actual basis for the dehumanising caste system. Otherwise if it was forced, why then are you so notorious for it even more than the Muslims? Muslims are not known for caste, other than the mistreatment of women. Just in case you didnt know, some of the things that appear gross today used to be the epitome of brainpower achievement centuries ago. Because they made a lot of practical sense in the circumstances. Dont think even for a moment that Indians with their smarties couldnt come up with a caste system. The same brains that came up with amazing Indian mathematics could be (mis)used especially with the intervention of religion to come up with the caste system. In Hinduism religion there are 4 bloody Castes! There is of course the matter of Aryans invading from the north and reinforcing the caste system. But dont try to cleanse yourself from this mess. Indians are squarely responsible for it especially given the way you reinforced it after independence. Like Rwanda and Burundi, colonists only exploited the already existent Caste system for ease of management. That does not exonerate these societies from their heartless systems of lore. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:24pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
You're implying there are creditors or lenders out there hawking huge loans that you're rejecting? or rather the more accurate description being you're so afraid of debt - you can't even take 1% of your supposed GDP in debt. 1% being 4-5B dollars. PRAY TELL US HOW YOU WILL DEVELOP WITHOUT DEBT. Nigeria GDP is indeed oil - and we can measure oil - 2M barrels per day * price of oil *365 days - outside that - we can use TZ or DRC figures - and weight it by population. Basically oil GDP is around 50-60B + TZ (50B)* 3 - roughly your GDP is about 200B! or we can use DRC congo (about 35 * 2.3=90+50=150B) - if you check nearly any index - you cluster around DRC or Tanzania - save for Oil production. Daejoyoung: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:28pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
Beside history is no recourse or excuse - you got a problem - deal with it. It doesn't matter how it came about - that is a historical fact - but as of now - as of today - you've got a debilitating caste system that prevent millions of indians from social mobility. TayserMahiri: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:29pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
Daejoyoung: Those hubs in the WEF study would only account for a tiny portion. Remember there are also a myriad of other factors to look for in how technologically advanced a country is such as govt participation, industry collaborations, etc. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:33pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
jaycent: Nice to know you can wear your panty in peace there at Minna |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 5:39pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
Lagos(Best city in Africa) 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 5:42pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
gallivant:E pain am reach prick. Keep crying.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:44pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:48pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
The World's Poorest Countries Tanzania kicking ass at pos 9, led by their singing bros Congo, and unfortunately Uganda and Ethiopia. Honestly, if you were given a list of these 3 countries: Ethiopia, Uganda and Tanzania, you would be able to explain why the first two are dirt poor. For UG you'd likely say Idi Amin and for Ethio you'd likely say droughts or wars. But for Tanzania you'd have to google or engage an expert. These guys are just poor for nothing. No wars, no droughts,,,none of those things. They are just poor for poverty's sake.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:56pm On Sep 03, 2018 |
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