A cruise trip to the Central Island of Lake Turkana.

rvp2018:
That rich coming from you. Whatever Yemi Kale throws to Imf/WB - that is what they'll take - can only massage the price numbers or advice on weighting - but as a rule - whatever Nigeria tell the world - is their GDP - it will be taken at it highest. But there are things you can't fake. So obviously if you ran to WB or IMF - the same IMF that accept you economy is 500B - cannot even lend you 10B - they lend you as much as Kenya .South Africa whose GDP is credible has debt of nearly 180B - Kenya has debt of around 50b - with GDP of 85-88B. Nigeria has 70B debt - and struggle to pay. Look at the gov revenues...520B economy - can only generate 20B '. A real GDP like South Africa generates revenues more than 100B. Kenya has revenues 20B.

In short you're free to fake it; call yourself the biggest economy; but besides the momentarily bragging right brought down by realization that Nigeria replaced India as poverty capital; it won't help you.

What is important for Nigeria is to find it's real bottom. To know the kind of hole they are in. If they deluded themselves they are big economy - they will not hold themselves or their politician to account.

Can you provide evidence anywhere that Nigeria was ever denied huge lending sums or loans by the World Bank or lMF? lf you can't then you're just stating rvp facts from your arse again.

Nigerian federal budget is 20 Billion dollars because...

1) corruption is the bane of the Nigerian Government ( for example the Nigerian Senate has some of the highest salaries for Senate's in the world, there have been several lootings as well). We have heard of lootings from Nigeria of close to 90 Billion dollars, and recently there was an investigation for a missing 20 Billion dollars.

2) Nigerian revenue is largely dependent on 60 Billion dollars worth of oil much more than taxes. There are a whole lot of financial bodies especially in Lagos whose taxes would contribute a lot but some evade taxes, while some just do not pay. Government is working on this ( though slowly).

3) ,The federal budget is separate from budget for states.

Another Gem in Turkana is this Detention Camp right in the middle of the desert.

This is where the British colonialists jailed Jomo Kenyatta and five others for engaging in Freedom Fighting Activities including the famous Mau Mau, which they considered terrorism. This particular house is called Kenyatta House as thats where the budding man was kept. Each one had his house. They took them as far North, remote and interior as they could so they wouldnt pose a threat.

The detention camps are today part of the Turkana Desert Museum

Kazikazi:
Tanzania.Dar es Salaam

We are not impressed. Nice bus though, made in Kenya.

The 2018 Code Burt Award Winner is a Kenyan

I have seen the loans offers you get - very similar to kenya - and you always struggle to pay. It's not rocket science. You have as much reveunue as kenya - and therefore you can only borrow as much. You cannot be approved for 200-250B - about 50% of you GDP - as is the rule of the thumb- because you've no chance in hell of repaying it. So with 70B debt - you're already in a big hole - because you real GDP is around 150-200B.

Daejoyoung:

Can you provide evidence anywhere that Nigeria was ever denied huge lending sums or loans by the World Bank or lMF? lf you can't then you're just stating rvp facts from your arse again.

Kazikazi:
You are uniformed.why should a country with huge reserves of gas go after geothermal and not developing power from its gas? Should Tanzania leave a gas and go for geothermal? Should south africa abandon the coal plants and do geothermal?

Your gas has not helped you. Your people have no power like Nigeria even with your gas and oil. Tanzanians should wake up before they become another DRC. Your natural wealth has not done anything for you. You are the poorest country in East Africa. The most uneducated, most paranoid and still practice witchcraft. Your gas and Tanzanite is a curse!

rvp2018:
I have seen the loans offers you get - very similar to kenya - and you always struggle to pay. It's not rocket science. You have as much reveunue as kenya - and therefore you can only borrow as much. You cannot be approved for 200-250B - about 50% of you GDP - as is the rule of the thumb- because you've no chance in hell of repaying it. So with 70B debt - you're already in a big hole - because you real GDP is around 200B.

Nah, we don't borrow much because it's one of the things Nigerians generally detest in a Government.
Nigerians are generally proud and conservative when it comes to borrowing, and the presidency is usually careful. Nigerians believe we have the resources and the money and do not need to borrow, and that Government borrows because it's corrupt.
This for instance is the current outcry against Buhari, we are more conservative than you Kenyans or Ghanians ( Who recently indicated interest in floating a 50 Billion dollars bond) when it comes to things like these.

l have listed reasons in my previous post why the Nigerian federal budget is 20Billion dollars.

Daejoyoung:


Actually these are the top ten tech countries in Africa by a few rankings, a few others though may put Kenya 3rd, but l have seen more that ranks Nigeria 3rd behind South Africa and Egypt. Not that l take these rankings seriously though.


https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://afrikanza.com/most-technologically-advanced-african-countries/&ved=2ahUKEwjmmcT9-J7dAhUysKQKHdHxCAgQFjAQegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0_uARLS5CJhALDuJ7ymKXm&cshid=1535981659324

That list has no basis. Seems the writer used his inner gut feelings. We need real quantifiable and tangible basis for a proper ranking like the one provided by the WEF.

TayserMahiri:
A trip to Kenya's desert region of Turkana.

You can catch up to 5 flights a day to Turkana. Basically, we could hold African Championships here in this remote region and there wont be flight issues as they had in Nigeria.

When it comes to domestic air travel in Africa, Kenya is the king

According to travel data company Forward Keys, Nairobi’s domestic air travel recorded 22% growth in 2017, beating its closest competitors Tunis and Addis Ababa, which grew by 14% and 9% respectively. In addition, long-haul international flights to Nairobi grew by 8%, making it the only major African city where domestic air travel is outpacing international traffic.

It nothing to do with pride. It everything to do with ability to repay. Nigeria had big debt crisis in 80s and 90s - when Oil prices crushed and certainly they were unable to repay.Most of that debt had to be repay. That is what inform their fear of loans. Right now you basically have no taxes or revenues to repay any serious loans - you can only bet on the oil prices going up - or you going burst.

Daejoyoung:

Nah, we don't borrow much because it's one of the things Nigerians generally detest in a Government.
Nigerians are generally proud and conservative when it comes to borrowing, and the presidency is usually careful. Nigerians believe we have the resources and the money and do not need to borrow, and that Government borrows because it's corrupt.
This for instance is the current outcry against Buhari, we are more conservative than you Kenyans or Ghanians ( Who recently indicated interest in floating a 50 Billion dollars bond) when it comes to things like these.

l have listed reasons in my previous post while the Nigerian federal budget is 20Billion dollars.

kikuyu1:


I think Indian GDP per capita is actually higher than stated due to the all important consumption data. Your oil consumption for example ranks higher than nations on the SAME LEVEL OF the global GDP nominal per capita list. I bet your steel and cement use,good GDP indicators are also higher.


OIL
162 Swaziland 2.88
163 Sudan 2.86
164 Georgia 2.84
165 India 2.64

https://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?t=0&v=91000&l=en

Official IMF global list GDP nominal 2017

135 Nicaragua 2,207
136 East Timor 2,104
137 Solomon Islands 2,081
138 Nigeria 1,994
139 Djibouti 1,989
140 India 1,983
141 Republic of the Congo 1,958

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

That would be the manual stand pipe!

Well I am zero in economics , I get prepared reports by experts which I simply context in the nature of the threat assessments.

And to be fair I don't rely on these metrics they r too convulated and incorrect and a snare by external actors

I believe in the strength of the microeconomics which is a better indice since foreign manipulation is minimum here

obaaderemi:
E pain am reach prick. Keep crying

Obaboon's bullshit paragraphs have been reduced to monkey chants. I told you, natural law is supreme.

sufferNsmiling:


what about nigeria

I can see that, that name "Nigeria" has hurt you so bad that you can't just let go off it. That Name "Nigeria" will make you commite suicide if care is not taking. Mark my worlds?

rvp2018:
It nothing to do with pride. It everything to do with ability to repay. Nigeria had big debt crisis in 80s and 90s - when Oil prices crushed and certainly they were unable to repay.Most of that debt had to be repay. That is what inform their fear of loans. Right now you basically have no taxes or revenues to repay any serious loans - you can only bet on the oil prices going up - or you going burst.

That's what I'm saying, we depend more on oil for revenue, that's why it is foolish to measure the GDP based on our revenue alone.
And yes you are right, we fear we have no ability to repay because our revenue seems limited to oil and is not much, we also fear moreso for our high level of corruption which may see the loans diverted without tangible infrastructure.
However this is different from your arguement that the world bodies are afraid of giving us heavy loans( rather than that we are scared of requesting for heavy loans).
lt is this part of your arguement, l and Obi Kenobi 1 have asked you to substantiate several times with proof, but you have failed to do so.

TayserMahiri:


That list has no basis. Seems the writer used his inner gut feelings. We need real quantifiable and tangible basis for a proper ranking like the one provided by the WEF.

Nigeria has the second largest number of tech hubs in Africa( 58 to SA's 59).
Kenya as a whole has 31, same as Lagos alone in Nigeria.

TayserMahiri:




WTH



That doesnt mean Boko Haram cant get your gay ass outta Minna and geld you.

Nah man, boko haram won't even think of coming to minna with the kind of tight security we have in Minna. Boko haram will never ever dream of coming to minna. When boko haram leader sent letter to the Governor of Minna, that minna is their next target. The governor informed the police and the army, everywere where covered with security. Armys, police, civil defence etc. The armys blocked the city gate while the police wher busy roming around the city, some of the police even use chopper. They did that for about 3 month we did not see any boko haram. Have u ever heard of Bomblast in Minna?

jaycent:
Nah man, boko haram won't even think of coming to minna with the kind of tight security we have in Minna. Boko haram will never ever dream of coming to minna. When boko haram leader sent letter to the Governor of Minna, that minna is their next target. The governor informed the police and the army, everywere where covered with security. Armys, police, civil defence etc. The armys blocked the city gate while the police wher busy roming around the city, some of the police even use chopper. They did that for about 3 month we did not see any boko haram. Have u ever heard of Bomblast in Minna?

The reason BokoHaram survived this long in the North East may be due to extremism, and the corrupt politicians fielding them with information to extend the insurgency for their own gains, BokoHaram would hardly survive outside that terrain.

Kerio valley, Kenya
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerio_Valley

Kur17:
Kerio valley, Kenya
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerio_Valley

Ain't you tired of posting all these? Why not take them all to your Kenyan Swahili forums or Sky Scraper. These pictures alone are boring if you are not posting them for our knowledge or fun.

Daejoyoung:

Ain't you tired of posting all these? Why not take them all to your Kenyan Swahili forums or Sky Scraper. These pictures alone are boring if you are not posting them for our knowledge or fun.

What do you mean by knowledge or fun...that's the link learn more about the great Riftvalley.
You guys have always been cheerleaders of Tanzanian sceneries "ooh Tanzania is more beautiful than Kenya" ...what about Nigeria?

Beey:
Been good, Trust is the same with you.Bring it on let me check it out.

So your people have brought their wahala to Kenyans on Facebook, the page is Group Kenya.Come see fight�

nemesis8u:


Well sorry to say ur 2 cents has been wasted

What is the source of ur info on indian caste system ?

The usual propaganda and misinformation started by the British during the colonial times.

If u need to truly subjugate an ancient civilization u will need to strike at its roots or its believes , discredit it among its own people so that they mentally become slaves to foreign indoctrination. Unless u break the faith of the people in their beliefs and roots u cannot subjugate them and keep them under control.

The same thing happened in Africa albeit more successfully , where r the religions and the traditions of ur ancestors now ? They have disappeared.

When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land - Desmond Tutu

Sadly they got everything

Now u have simply become an extension to the religious dogmas and traditions of the west and the middle East. Correct me if I am wrong.

A sanskrit word can have more than 10 different meanings , it depends on the readers mindset on how he or she interprets it. The Portuguese who were hardliner Catholics were the first European power to arrive in India and make rabid distortions.

"Caste" is derived from the Portuguese word "casta" and is not equivalent to the varna/jaati tradition in Indian society

The protestant British who arrived to India much later after the Portuguese also followed suit.

The british colonial underpinnings of the “caste system” starting with the racist and religiously motivated anthropomorphic measurements and ethnographic constructs used by the British missionaries to make sense of the cultures of the colonised peoples.

Importantly, they constructed a “hierarchy” that has supposedly been dominated by the evil “high caste” Brahmins subjugating the “lower castes” via a static, durable, hereditary mechanism based on local “false religion” inorder to get justify their end goals.

It was simply the start of a religious psychological war, Abrahamic religions versus Indic religions.

First the Protestant colonial theological account which deems Hindu culture as morally corrupt, static, and racist; with Brahmins as the priests of a false religion.

whilst the fabricated “caste system” gets attention, important historical facts are ignored, such as the actual dynamics of Indian society and the millennium-long social upheaval and genocidal impact of Islamic invasions and later, the policy-induced famines under British colonialism.

These waves of enslavement, cultural destruction and death are sanitised out of existence, and instead, “caste” is the dominating narrative of Indian society in which Brahmins are assigned as oppressors of a society that in fact struggled to survive these monotheistic colonialism.

This depiction of Hindus has unfortunately been adopted into the “secular” history and politics of independent India via the stoges where were left in power after the britishers withdraw. Add to it the evengalists , the vatican , the mullahs , the leftists , the intelligence agencies of UK , Scandinavian countries etc who still continue their fucckery.

Since India's independence the church- corrupted academia- pseudo secular- foreign agents axis have been sustaining the so called “caste system”. Otherwise it don't exist.

The colonies may be gone, but the colonial “white man’s burden” lives on.

Now the true facts if u want to know

Thousands of years ago before 1000 BC what existed was Varna system

Simplistically speaking it involved delegation of jobs and importantly transfer of skills.

There were then no schools as such , no roads , villages were far flung.

So how to transfer the skills from one person to another person ?

Eg a warrior will be in a best position to transfer his skills to his son or to his extended family as they r living close together from a very young age.

Otherwise one will need to go through unsafe roads forests , mountains rivers etc to find a tutor and then there was the problem of payments etc , it was not feasible.

Even then choice was totally optional if somebody from a warrior family did not want to become a warrior he or she was free not to do so, if he wanted to become a carpenter he could become one provided he found a tutor to train him and certify him.

Much like modern education system of today.

In those days thousands of years ago when the rest of the world could not even count, forget anything about mathematics

Indians were playing in the realms of infinity. do u know their largest infinity based number ?

paro = 10^400000000000000000infinities

All the supercomputers put together running 24x7 ,365 day for 100 years will fail to compute upto this numbers. Only quantum based supercomputers have a chance, but that is only in theory

So it is very difficult to believe that minds which was so progressed will come up with something so despicable as the so called artificial construct called caste system. It was forced both directly and indirectly first by the Islamic onslaught and then perpetuated by the Anglos.

99% of us believe what is shown to us , what is brainwashed to us , what we r led to believe.

But if u had my job u would have got to see some of the reality.

Indic religions r the soul of India , u take that away , then the country is finished , Abrahamics religion is poison to India, after all one man food another man's poison.

Main thing we must live our lives and make our choices on weather I can die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of my fathers, and the temples of my Gods ?

(God here is a allogory it means our traditions our values our culture our everything passed down since time immemorial)


Note Sanatan dharma ( Hinduism ) is the only religion ( there is no indian word for religion ) to have given birth to other religions like Jainism , Sikhism , Buddhism etc.

Some nice points but on the religion part, dont get delirious. In the western world they long lost their traditional religions and picked up religions from the middle east, a region they lord over and that is quite the shithole. Religion alone cant take you far today. Innovation will.

You sound revisionist! Your religion (Hinduism) is the actual basis for the dehumanising caste system. Otherwise if it was forced, why then are you so notorious for it even more than the Muslims? Muslims are not known for caste, other than the mistreatment of women.

Just in case you didnt know, some of the things that appear gross today used to be the epitome of brainpower achievement centuries ago. Because they made a lot of practical sense in the circumstances. Dont think even for a moment that Indians with their smarties couldnt come up with a caste system. The same brains that came up with amazing Indian mathematics could be (mis)used especially with the intervention of religion to come up with the caste system. In Hinduism religion there are 4 bloody Castes! There is of course the matter of Aryans invading from the north and reinforcing the caste system. But dont try to cleanse yourself from this mess. Indians are squarely responsible for it especially given the way you reinforced it after independence. Like Rwanda and Burundi, colonists only exploited the already existent Caste system for ease of management. That does not exonerate these societies from their heartless systems of lore.

You're implying there are creditors or lenders out there hawking huge loans that you're rejecting? or rather the more accurate description being you're so afraid of debt - you can't even take 1% of your supposed GDP in debt. 1% being 4-5B dollars. PRAY TELL US HOW YOU WILL DEVELOP WITHOUT DEBT. Nigeria GDP is indeed oil - and we can measure oil - 2M barrels per day * price of oil *365 days - outside that - we can use TZ or DRC figures - and weight it by population. Basically oil GDP is around 50-60B + TZ (50B)* 3 - roughly your GDP is about 200B! or we can use DRC congo (about 35 * 2.3=90+50=150B) - if you check nearly any index - you cluster around DRC or Tanzania - save for Oil production.

Daejoyoung:

That's what I'm saying, we depend more on oil for revenue, that's why it is foolish to measure the GDP based on our revenue alone.
And yes you are right, we fear we have no ability to repay because our revenue seems limited to oil and is not much, we also fear moreso for our high level of corruption which may see the loans diverted without tangible infrastructure.
However this is different from your arguement that the world bodies are afraid of giving us heavy loans( rather than that we are scared of requesting for heavy loans).
lt is this part of your arguement, l and Obi Kenobi 1 have asked you to substantiate several times with proof, but you have failed to do so.

Beside history is no recourse or excuse - you got a problem - deal with it. It doesn't matter how it came about - that is a historical fact - but as of now - as of today - you've got a debilitating caste system that prevent millions of indians from social mobility.

TayserMahiri:


Some nice points but on the religion part, dont get delirious. In the western world they long lost their traditional religions and picked up religions from the middle east, a region they lord and that is quite the shithole. Religion alone cant take you far today. Innovation will.

You sound revisionist! Your religion (Hinduism) is the actual basis for the dehumanising caste system. Otherwise if it was forced, why then are you so notorious for it even more than the Muslims? Muslims are not known for caste, other than the mistreatment of women.

Just in case you didnt know, some of the things that appear gross today used to be the epitome of brainpower achievement centuries ago. Because they made a lot of practical sense in the circumstances. Dont think even for a moment that Indians with their smarties couldnt come up with a caste system. The same brains that came up with amazing Indian mathematics could be (mis)used especially with the intervention of religion to come up with the caste system. In Hinduism religion there are 4 bloody Castes! There is of course the matter of Aryans invading from the north and reinforcing the caste system. But dont try to cleanse yourself from this mess. Indians are squarely responsible for it especially given the way you reinforced it after independence. Like Rwanda and Burundi, colonists only exploited the already existent Caste system for ease of management. That does not exonerate these societies from their heartless systems of lore.

Daejoyoung:

Nigeria has the second largest number of tech hubs in Africa( 58 to SA's 59).
Kenya as a whole has 31, same as Lagos alone in Nigeria.

Those hubs in the WEF study would only account for a tiny portion. Remember there are also a myriad of other factors to look for in how technologically advanced a country is such as govt participation, industry collaborations, etc.

jaycent:
Nah man, boko haram won't even think of coming to minna with the kind of tight security we have in Minna. Boko haram will never ever dream of coming to minna. When boko haram leader sent letter to the Governor of Minna, that minna is their next target. The governor informed the police and the army, everywere where covered with security. Armys, police, civil defence etc. The armys blocked the city gate while the police wher busy roming around the city, some of the police even use chopper. They did that for about 3 month we did not see any boko haram. Have u ever heard of Bomblast in Minna?

Nice to know you can wear your panty in peace there at Minna

Lagos(Best city in Africa)

gallivant:


Obaboon's bullshit paragraphs have been reduced to monkey chants. I told you, natural law is supreme.

E pain am reach prick. Keep crying.

V

The World's Poorest Countries

Tanzania kicking ass at pos 9, led by their singing bros Congo, and unfortunately Uganda and Ethiopia.

Honestly, if you were given a list of these 3 countries: Ethiopia, Uganda and Tanzania, you would be able to explain why the first two are dirt poor. For UG you'd likely say Idi Amin and for Ethio you'd likely say droughts or wars. But for Tanzania you'd have to google or engage an expert. These guys are just poor for nothing. No wars, no droughts,,,none of those things. They are just poor for poverty's sake.

H