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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:53am On Sep 04, 2018
do4luv14:
Am sure he was a former homebased. Who rep one of our youths teams. But av 4gotten. Dont even know wia he is at present




FC Luzern
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:58am On Sep 04, 2018
yoged:
bro that's left to the tribunal. Some don't pay shishi.

Liverpool has already agreed to pay Chelsea. In short, dey have paid. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 10:05am On Sep 04, 2018
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 10:16am On Sep 04, 2018

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EokQ4JMDQcU


Another one..what does he bring to SE table?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:25am On Sep 04, 2018
[quote author=Earthquake1 post=70889003][/quote]

What is the joke about nacho has played in that position numerous times for the SE. As a matter of fact it is most potent position for us.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:19am On Sep 04, 2018
Joebie:
Those players that failed the MRI should be considered for selection in the Flying Eagles.

One of them (their top striker) has already been invited to join the U20s.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:36am On Sep 04, 2018
gamaliel9:
winning the u17 five times has not really brought us glory at senior level....Olympics is an age group competition....most national teams i think have more players who win at u21 than players who win at u17...Argentina is a perfect example of this....even Columbia....i think we should add more vibe to u21 than u17...

Again the transition from u17 to u21 does not really work like that...we always crash when we do it.

Its better we transit from u21 to national team...most players who play in national team were already members of the Olympic team....


We have continued to fail at U20 because we ha continued to under estimate the competition at that level. I don't know if u have joined this thread when I was lamenting the selection process of the U20s.

If we do well at U17 there is always the tendency to promote most of the U17 to U20. I don't have issues if they all merit the promotion but where there are issues is where the coach will chose to remain loyal to his U17 players if he is promoted along with them, there by ignoring other players who were not part of the U17 and have the quality to knock out some of those ex-U17 players.

Why we have continued to perform relatively better at U23 than at U20 is because we have always failed at U20 and so there will not be this cry of promoting all the U20 players to U23. At U23, we go for the best available and we have often seen the results.

Throw the U20 screening open and select our best Available legs within that age you'll see the difference.

Each time we win the U17 , two years later we either crash out at the Group stage of the U20 or at best 2nd round. Our best U20 performances have never come 2 years after winning an U17 WC.

And on the World level, no country has ever won the U17 and two years later won the U20. Same U17 players loyalty is a major reason.

Sometimes I don't know if those in our NFF technical committees have not taken time to observe these trends.

The last England U20 winning team should be a model we should copy, matured U20 squad, full of experience. Not parading 16, 17 years old academy players as U20 and expecting them to do magic

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:52am On Sep 04, 2018
fabyom:
Uzoho
Awazien balog. Omeru

Ndidi

Kalu. Iheanacho. Etebo. Oyekuru

Ighalo. Musa


We have to attack them on all front cos we need to score a lot of goals.



You want us to use Kalu and Onyekuru as wingbacks?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:55am On Sep 04, 2018
gamaliel9:
This Eleke is not that strong oooo...just tall like that...i wonder why some already performing guys were not invited....Seth,Ebere Eze,Ejaria,Ajagun,that Zubairu at Trencin, even Orji Okonkwo, even Igbekeme....what is happening bikonu? i have known Rohr as a conservatist but it is getting ultra.

Ebere eze Yes, ajagun yes

The rest is a NO
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 11:58am On Sep 04, 2018
Icon4s:


We have continued to fail at U20 because we ha continued to under estimate the competition at that level. I don't know if u have joined this thread when I was lamenting the selection process of the U20s.

If we do well at U17 there is always the tendency to promote most of the U17 to U20. I don't have issues if they all merit the promotion but where there are issues is where the coach will chose to remain loyal to his U17 players if he is promoted along with them, there by ignoring other players who were not part of the U17 and have the quality to knock out some of those ex-U17 players.

Why we have continued to perform relatively better at U23 than at U20 is because we have always failed at U20 and so there will not be this cry of promoting all the U20 players to U23. At U23, we go for the best available and we have often seen the results.

Throw the U20 screening open and select our best Available legs within that age you'll see the difference.

Each time we win the U17 years later we either crash out at the Group stage of the U20 or at best 2nd round. Our best U20 performances have never come 2 years after winning an U17 WC.

And on the World level, no country has ever won the U17 and two years later won the U20. Same U17 players loyalty is a major reason.

Sometimes I don't know if those in our NFF technical committees have not taken time to observe these trends.

The last England U20 winning team should be a model we should copy, matured U20 squad, full of experience. Not parading 16, 17 years old academy players as U20 and expecting them to do magic

You have full marks on this..the u21 is a different bowl of eba and egusi soup--thats what i will eat this afternoon by the way....If we ever get this right...the result will be booom...they will move straight to main teams with their age..and start playing immediately...but at u17 hum...they are still seen as academy players...lets hope that our NFF take note of this and act fast. MOST ARGENTINE S MAJOR PLAYERS CAME UP THROUGH U21 NOT U17....Maradona..Batistuta...Messi...etc

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:59am On Sep 04, 2018
do4luv14:
ELEKE is dat guy not a former shooting stars. Abi its sunshine stars player?

He never played in the league.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:50pm On Sep 04, 2018
Well if some are better than our current crop of U20, why not? Personally I would scrutinize the team and fish out the overaged players.

gamaliel9:


Thats really my point and beyond Africa too if they qualify
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:51pm On Sep 04, 2018
Ndidi failed the MRI that didn’t make him change his age. In my estimation the boys should be within the age limit of 20.

edi287:

With their real age or the same ones they used for U17?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chiscodedon(m): 1:01pm On Sep 04, 2018
JoebieII:
MY STARTING LINE UP

---------------------Uzoho--------------------

----Awaziem----Balogun(Semi)---------Omeruo---

Muhammed------Ndidi-----Etebo(Onazi)-----------Collins

------Kalu-------Iheanacho-------Musa(Onyekuru)-------



Think still gonna encounter same problem in man united team where alexis, rashford and martial perfect there play in same wing department.... Here Musa, Kalu and Onyekuru are at there peak operating from left side of the wing, gonna be an issue on whom to start ahead... Unless Rohr decides striking Musa
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:03pm On Sep 04, 2018
U20 is a far higher level compared to U17. I think this stage may be the best time to recruit all deserving FBs. We should really screen the domestic scene even if it means going down to the NNL. We need to get the best. At this level the chances of finding those that will become eventual stars is higher than the U17 level.

gamaliel9:
winning the u17 five times has not really brought us glory at senior level....Olympics is an age group competition....most national teams i think have more players who win at u21 than players who win at u17...Argentina is a perfect example of this....even Columbia....i think we should add more vibe to u21 than u17...

Again the transition from u17 to u21 does not really work like that...we always crash when we do it.

Its better we transit from u21 to national team...most players who play in national team were already members of the Olympic team....

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 1:04pm On Sep 04, 2018
The zoning is going to back fire soon. wonder what those guys wana do at u17. well whatever happens I hope they get brain fast. West Africa combined have 7 u17 world cups. Well if I'm to choose between removing Hayatou and getting this new format, I'll choose removing Hayatou.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:05pm On Sep 04, 2018
I placed Kalu at the right and Musa at the left. Another option is to start Onyekuru at the left and play Musa as a CF. I think these are the best forwards we have at the moment.

chiscodedon:

Think still gonna encounter same problem in man united team where alexis, rashford and martial perfect there play in same wing department.... Here Musa, Kalu and Onyekuru are at there peak operating from left side of the wing, gonna be an issue on whom to start ahead... Unless Rohr decides striking Musa
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:10pm On Sep 04, 2018
If that our keeper was really bad, the Bournemouth keeper should be given a chance against CIV. I see no reason why we can’t qualify from this group and become the eventual champs. If we don’t qualify, I would t blame it in the zoning. I will blame it on our failing to screen our players thoroughly. We know our problem. We should take these things seriously

daveP:
The zoning is going to back fire soon. wonder what those guys wana do at u17. well whatever happens I hope they get brain fast. West Africa combined have 5 u17 world cups. Well if I'm to choose between removing Hayatou and getting this new format, I'll choose removing Hayatou.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 1:11pm On Sep 04, 2018
ChrisKels:
I wonder what PSG saw in Maxim Eric Choupo Moting of Cameroun to sign him from Stoke even though he couldn't save his former team from relegation. Nawa oo

He speaks french! grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:16pm On Sep 04, 2018
gamaliel9:


You have full marks on this..the u21 is a different bowl of eba and egusi soup--thats what i will eat this afternoon by the way....If we ever get this right...the result will be booom...they will move straight to main teams with their age..and start playing immediately...but at u17 hum...they are still seen as academy players...lets hope that our NFF take note of this and act fast. MOST ARGENTINE S MAJOR PLAYERS CAME UP THROUGH U21 NOT U17....Maradona..Batistuta...Messi...etc

I have been preaching this gospel for long. The U20 is the main thing and not U17.

We have achieved what no other country in the world has achieved at U17. 5 Gold, 3 Silver. Nothing even the Brazil, Spain, Argentina, Germany, France of this world has that record.

But what have we achieved at the age grade directly after that? 2 Silver.

There is definitely a disconnect. And if we fail to address it squarely we will continue to fail.

And yes, you are very right at stating that the U20 is the main key to producing players for the national teams.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by damsund: 1:28pm On Sep 04, 2018
Joebie:
I placed Kalu at the right and Musa at the left. Another option is to start Onyekuru at the left and play Musa as a CF. I think these are the best forwards we have at the moment.



With kalu exploits in taking crosses, we need a CF who can convert them. As regards heading in crosses, Onyekuru I know, Iheanacho I know (not too sure), but who is Musa?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:31pm On Sep 04, 2018
daveP:
The zoning is going to back fire soon. wonder what those guys wana do at u17. well whatever happens I hope they get brain fast. West Africa combined have 5 u17 world cups. Well if I'm to choose between removing Hayatou and getting this new format, I'll choose removing Hayatou.

Say what?

West Africa has 7! Nigeria 5 and Ghana 2.

West Africa has won the last 7 CAF U17 editions:

Gambia 2005
Nigeria 2007
Gambia 2009
Burkina Faso 2011
CIV 2013
Mali 2015
Mali 2017.

Only South Africa, from outside the WA subregion played as losing finalists.

At the World stage in the last 6 editions:

Nigeria 1st 2007
Nigeria 2nd 2009
Nigeria 1st 2013
Nigeria 1st, Mali 2nd 2015
Mali 4th 2017
Plus other West African teams making Q/Finals on several occasions.

I still do not understand why WAFU accepted this devilish arrangement.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:59pm On Sep 04, 2018
Icon4s:


Say what?

West Africa has 7! Nigeria 5 and Ghana 2.

West Africa has won the last 7 CAF U17 editions:

Gambia 2005
Nigeria 2007
Gambia 2009
Burkina Faso 2011
CIV 2013
Mali 2015
Mali 2017.

Only South Africa, from outside the WA subregion have ever played as losing finalists.

At the World stage in the last 5 editions:

Nigeria 1st 2007
Nigeria 2nd 2009
Nigeria 1st 2013
Nigeria 1st, Mali 2nd 2015
Mali 4th 2017
Plus other West African teams making Q/Finals on several occasions.

I still do not understand why WAFU accepted this devilish arrangement.






This zoning thing was also used for the AWCON and u-20 afcon..
This Ahmad Ahmad wants to try at all cost to get his region more slot in Africa. A region that has always been at the bottom of the chain in Africa football.
I know for sure that he won't try it with the afcon..even with d new 24 team system.. unless he wants caf to lose revenue

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:09pm On Sep 04, 2018
Danielnino00:


This zoning thing was also used for the AWCON and u-20 awcon..
This Ahmad Ahmad wants to try at all cost to get his region more slot in Africa. A region that has always been at the bottom of the chain in Africa football.
I know for sure that he won't try it with the afcon..even with d new 24 team system.. unless he wants caf to lose revenue

It was not used for the U20 Women Qulaifiers because we played Tanzania and Morocco to qualify.
And the U17 girls played Ethiopia and Cameroon.

But if them try am for AFCON or FIFA WC qualifiers then I will personally evoke......... on Ahmad Ahmad

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrLikita12(f): 2:09pm On Sep 04, 2018
Remo Stars (NNL) player, Sodiq, transfers to Danish side Fremad Amager (first and second pictures). They seem to have a good set up.
Their U17s will be participating in the third division (NLO) and their U15s recently lost a game to Lagos U15s (third and fourth pictures; U17 team not pictured).
If most teams are able to emulate this and verify the ages of their age grade players it will provide a continuous supply of genuine, quality talent regardless of whether we are able to win age grade competitions or not. At least on the senior level we will see a lot of improvement.
I'm sure a few people can recognize the young man on the far left in the red jersey.
All the pictures are from Remo Stars twitter handle.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:11pm On Sep 04, 2018
DrLikita12:
Remo Stars (NNL) player, Sodiq, transfers to Danish side Fremad Amager (first and second pictures). They seem to have a good set up.
Their U17s will be participating in the third division (NLO) and their U15s recently lost a game to Lagos U15s (third and fourth pictures).
. If most teams are able to emulate this and verify the ages of their age grade players it will provide a continuous supply of genuine, quality talent regardless of whether we are able to win age grade competitions or not. At least on the senior level we will see a lot of improvement.
I'm sure a few people can recognize the young man on the far left in the red jersey.

At bolded. A good one, worthy of emulation by other clubs. And the boys really look U17 and U15 respectively.

That guy with captain arm band in the U15 pix is really a promising talent (forgotten his name now). He looks bigger now. cheesy

Modified: The last pix seems like the Lagos state team, with the Lagos state emblem on their chests.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:24pm On Sep 04, 2018
You want to play Onyekuru as a 9 instead? Truth is we don’t have reliable forwards when it comes to headers. However we have midfielders that can overlap and do the job.

Modified
Maybe we throw in Simy then

damsund:



With kalu exploits in taking crosses, we need a CF who can convert them. As regards heading in crosses, Onyekuru I know, Iheanacho I know (not too sure), but who is Musa?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:34pm On Sep 04, 2018
Icon4s:


It was not used for the U20 Weomen Qulaifiers because we played Tanzania and Morocco to qualify.
And the U17 girls played Ethiopia and Cameroon.

But if them try am for AFCON or FIFA WC qualifiers then I will personally evoke......... on Ahmad Ahmad


I was referring to the u-20 Afcon..


I follow updates on Africa football on BBC Africa and supersport Facebook page.. those southern Africans really hate Hayatou. They claim that he was being biased toward them by not awarding them afcon hosting rights...
Leaves me wondering which country apart from south Africa has the capacity to host the afcon...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 2:35pm On Sep 04, 2018
Icon4s:


At bolded. A good one, worthy of emulation by other clubs. And the boys really look U17 and U15 respectively.

That guy with captain arm band in the U15 pix is really a promising talent (forgotten his name now). He looks bigger now. cheesy

Modified: The last pix seems like the Lagos state team, with the Lagos state emblem on their chests.

His name is Sulaimon played in U15 future eaglet at the just concluded African game in north Africa.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:37pm On Sep 04, 2018
Danielnino00:



I was referring to the u-20 Afcon..


I follow updates on Africa football on BBC Africa and supersport Facebook page.. those southern Africans really hate Hayatou. They claim that he was being biased toward them by not awarding them afcon hosting rights...
Leaves me wondering which country apart from south Africa has the capacity to host the afcon...

Ok. AYC Qualifiers.

Yeah Zimbabwe wanted to host one time and they fell short and the AFCON was moved elsewhere same with Zambia.
They now want to use Ahmad Ahmad's tenure to dominate the continent. Meaning they believe they have been marginalized all these while.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:39pm On Sep 04, 2018
soetanoreoluwa:


His name is Sulaimon played in U15 future eaglet at the just concluded African game in north Africa.

Yeah thanks.

I hope he makes it to the next eaglets team. Tomorrow dem go say that one too na age cheat. Pessin wey we see when him dey use rope tie nicker dey play ball.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:45pm On Sep 04, 2018
Icon4s:


Ok. AYC Qualifiers.

Yeah Zimbabwe wanted to host one time and they fell short and the AFCON was moved elsewhere same with Zambia.
They now want to use Ahmad Ahmad's tenure to dominate the continent. Meaning they believe they have been marginalized all these while.


Exactly what they want to do..

Small time now it will backfire.. West Africa has always been the backbone of Africa football outside the continent..

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