gare:


The issue is that she has ended her career has an accountant, do you know what that means, she lacks integrity, she can never be trusted, it's not about going to jail, she could be fine because she is a first offender.

But she can never be gainfully employed in any of the big time financial organisation or contest for elective position, I feel for her, but wish her the best

Stop speaking crass nonsense.
No court has convicted her TILL DATE, it is all in the real of "accusations and 'dem-say'.

So, which career are you talking about, which election?
Stop jumping ahead of yourselves, Kemi is fine and would remain fine where her skills are valued

mvem:
by resigning she has accepted that she forged a document....

Jesus!
how old are you?

Resigning is the normal and next logical step, when you are ACCUSED of an infraction, as a public officer (I know you Nigerians are not used to that system), to allow proper investigation and not to impede investigations.

It does not mean acceptance of guilt, ....Learner

Daboomb:


Jesus!
how old are you?

Resigning is the normal and next logical step, when you are ACCUSED of an infraction, as a public officer (I know you Nigerians are not used to that system), to allow proper investigation and not to impede investigations.

It does not mean acceptance of guilt, ....Learner

..in our system is other wise... Because which proper investigation will be done?... It was clear that she has no defense and going to court might have not been wise... So she was advised to resign... I understand you well when public office holders in other society resign when there is a controversy to allow for investigation but most times this is done because the said person crime is likely true... Because I know severally when innocent people from other nations are accused but choose to defend themselves with due processes but not necessarily resigning...

What you mean by skipping nysc, you have the choice to serve if you are fit and with service age,but if you are unfit,or over-aged exemption cert is issued to you.

Daboomb:


Stop speaking crass nonsense.
No court has convicted her TILL DATE, it is all in the real of "accusations and 'dem-say'.

So, which career are you talking about, which election?
Stop jumping ahead of yourselves, Kemi is fine and would remain fine where her skills are valued

only Nigerian firms will employ her and that is even risky, no reputable foreign accounting firm will because they value their reputation.

Up till now Ossy is still 2

slyfoxxjoe:
Her first nationality is still British. She is a native born British and a naturalized Nigerian. In certain countries, that will disqualify you from certain high offices. For example, in America a naturalized citizen can be a governor,senator etc but you have to be a native born American to be president. She should never have been minister to begin with. Blame our last laws.

According to the Nigerian Constitution, Chapter 3, section 25[1], citizenship by birth is as follows.

25. (1) The following persons are citizens of Nigeria by birth-namely-

(a) every person born in Nigeria before the date of independence, either of whose parents or any of whose grandparents belongs or belonged to a community indigenous to Nigeria;

Provided that a person shall not become a citizen of Nigeria by virtue of this section if neither of his parents nor any of his grandparents was born in Nigeria.

(b) every person born in Nigeria after the date of independence either of whose parents or any of whose grandparents is a citizen of Nigeria; and

(c) every person born outside Nigeria either of whose parents is a citizen of Nigeria.

(2) In this section, "the date of independence" means the 1st day of October 1960.

By law, you're a citizen of Nigeria as long as either one of your parents or grandparents is Nigerian regardless of your place of birth. This type of citizenship law is called Jus sanguinis (Right of blood). The other type of citizenship law is Jus soli(Right of soil) where citizenship by birth is granted if you're born in the territory of the country.

Naturalization (or naturalisation) is the legal act or process by which a non-citizen in a country may acquire citizenship or nationalityof that country. It may be done by a statute, without any effort on the part of the individual, or it may involve an application and approval by legal authorities. The rules of naturalization vary from country to country and typically include a minimum legal residencyrequirement, and may specify other requirements such as knowledge of the national dominant language or culture, a promise to obey and uphold that country's laws. An oath or pledge of allegiance is also sometimes required. Some countries also require that the person renounce any other citizenship that they currently hold, forbidding dual citizenship, but whether this renunciation actually causes loss of the person's original citizenship, as seen by the host country and by the original country, will again depend on the laws of the countries involved.

Gagare1:
Yes, I am in support that justice MUST be served in full. This is a case where Nigerians are clamouring for justice over a case of forgery; the same people whose majority chose to willingly vote out an erring Phd holder in favor of an old man with forged WAEC certificate. I have come to realise Nigerians are the embodiment of the pharisee spirit. We are eager to throw the first stone at whoever was found guilty of the very crime we practice. After all "na who dem catch be thief". But that is the human point of view. But God judges with a different standard, He sees the heart and judges the human intentions. And when He says the word JUSTICE it is absolute. Better to be convicted by man but vindicated by God. I hope Kemi's confession will lead to genuine repentance on her part. Even though the system may not pardon her, God will forgive and guide her as she bears the consequences of her deeds. BUT WOE UNTO THOSE PASSING JUDGEMENT ON HER WHILE GUILTY OF THE SAME CRIME.

someone who owe the country 's pulse,someone who believe in crooks to attain power because she felt the system was poor,she called them trusted associates?who does that anywere in the world, albeiting with criminals shows that she's also a criminal, so how do we now say that we are in a democratic settings, they will say we are still practicing, but bros do you think its fair?she cannot take the pain alone except shes strong, to think about how she lived and what she's achieved is depressing, she wont ever get a job any where in the world except in Nigeria believe that,she's guilty now no sentiment.

The truth about diz is,,,,, in Nigeria, the Law is just for pple like u and me,,,, wen its goes hyer dan dat, it doznt work again.....
Try forgery and see weda no be wen ur prison Terms don dey count dem go tell us say dem don catch you....

The Law is not for her, its for U and I ok

kaluxy007:
Which government will send her to jail?? this present one??

Where is Stella Oduah - in the Senate making laws for us

Did she resign? No
Was she prosecuted? No

So you think PDP would do a better job on this?

CSTR1005:
If kemi does not see jail time, then I know Nigeria is an unfortunate country ..
We need to use the likes of kemi as an example on the rule of law.

Punish her to the full extent of the law. Set a deterrence.


We are not animals in this country without the rule of law.

Haba, she has resigned lets not forget she had some policies, like Whistle blowing, Voluntary Assets Income Declaration etc..

BetaThings:


Where is Stella Oduah - in the Senate making laws for us

Did she resign? No
Was she prosecuted? No

So you think PDP would do a better job on this?

Did you see PDP in my comment? Well, PDP won't look aside when terrorist in form of herdsmen raid an entire village, kill the villagers, rape their women and steal their livestock.
PDP won't tell you the people raping your wives and kids came all the way from Libya
PDP won't give funds to terrorists like El Rufai of Kaduna

Choose between a terrorists and thieves
Choose between losing your life and money

Till we see those who'll head sincerely it's only reasonable to align with thieves than pretend under oppressors and heartless killers who as well plunged the nation in high indebtedness, this was not what your messiah promised us

YorubaEmir:


Nothing like serial forgery. Lol. She did the crime, let her do the time.

Holier than thou, who in your Nigeria doesn't forge document or lies. Most people in the country forge driving license or Motor insurance certificate and other motor documents

toyetade:

Holier than thou, who in your Nigeria doesn't forge document or lies. Most people in the country forge driving license or Motor insurance certificate and other motor documents

And therefore, every forgers should be forgiven and Adeosun should not be prosecuted because her name is Adeosun

Isn't NYSC and the syndicate it is found to run fake documeot rings supposed to be uncovered andtried for issuing a fake document? Isn't NYSC law oppressive, arm-twisting ad anti-trust in way it forces graduates Nigeria does not train nor contribute to training to be so conscripted by misplaced self submission to a regimental law to serve as cheap labour in a scheme devised to provide masscheap labour from and of Southerners for lame Northern Nigeria...

Isn't NYSC and the syndicate it is found to run fake documeot rings supposed to be uncovered andtried for issuing a fake document? Isn't NYSC law oppressive, arm-twisting ad anti-trust in way it forces graduates Nigeria does not train nor contribute to training to be so conscripted by misplaced self submission to a regimental law to serve as cheap labour in a scheme devised to provide masscheap labour from and of Southerners for lame Northern Nigeria...Shame on the bar and lawyers in Nigeria as they all are failing to defend humanity in this case but play the ostrich burying their heads. Let heads roll...

Blue3k:
Even if they did prosecute her she wouldnt get 14 years. Those type of sentences are usually for serial forgers. Most of these only charges only have a max 3 year sentences and or fine. Best case scenario is 2 years sentence with fines. 5 years would be the max.

Front page: Lalasticlala

but she has fled from the country ..is that not offense number 2 , knowing fully well a hearing on her mata is coming up on the 8th of October, btw , whose monies running into billions was she using to bribe the law makers when they got a wind of the forgery (infact it became like a black mail as she was said to be paying monthly)before the scandal was leaked to the press ? Huh?

Before she risk the 14year jail term, i want the authorities to call out everybody in the civil service to show their certificates and then defend the ownership by defending the topic of their project before the certificates were issued to them. It is Kemi today because she did the wrong thing, even those with worse offence is standing tall to prosecute Kemi. Useless certificate buying leaders. The president is cleaner than many because we knows he does not have and did not deny it nor going to forge or buy to own. We can see why Nigeria is not working because all her leaders are half baked. Take skilled people, no, they want certificated people and they are giving them the level of certificate they parade about.

Daboomb:





You people should just STFU! Bad-belle people

The Manager of visionScape is British and he is employed in Nigeria by the Lagos State governmrnt ....... Show me his NYSC Certificate?

Kemi Adeosun is a British Citizen, she never stepped foot into Nigeria until she was 34yrs, she never schooled in Nigeria as well.

If you say it is because she has nigerian 'roots' then that is not in the law of NYSC,

She does not need an NYSC cert to be a Finance Minister, just like the M.D/CEO of VisionScape.
That she is above age, that she is a 'foreigner', that she never stepped foot or worked in Nigeria before her NYSC-over-age, all points in one direction - She does not need the cert nor fall into the category of those who does.

Even that she approached NYSC staff and they gave her a "Certificate" whicj turned out to fake, IS NOT HER FAULT.
That she presented what she was given by NYSC staff and it went through screening by so many Govt agency, including the NASS and the DSS, is not her problem.

Take it from me, she was just "acting her Britishness" by resigning honorably, as they do in britain whenever your name is mentioned in connection to anything scandalous (We all know the typical nigerian will not resign and we have had and still have many of them, including currently sitting Senators, Presidential aspirants, Governors, e.t.c).
All these noise about jail term will fall flat on their face because these laws does not apply to her. She is Britico.
At best, see her as an expatruate, exployed by Nigerian Govt, on the same level as the CEO of VisionScape.


NB: This post is not personally directed at you, l just used your post as 'reference' to all and similarly silly post of same vein.

I'm tempted to call you an idiot, but.....
Section 25 of the Nigerian Constitution clearly states that if one of your grandparents or one of your parents is a Nigerian when you were born, then you're a Nigerian by birth.
So, even if you were born in Lebanon or Afghanistan, so far as you have a parent who was a Nigerian when you were born, the requirements of Nigerian laws shackle you.
How the hell do you think all these Fulani and Hausas from Niger easily identify as Nigerians?. It's cause your constitution's native community clause (Section 25 (1)a) made it so
Kemi's parents were both Nigerian when she was born.

I beg spare us this your PhD nonsense. You can have all the education in the world and still be very stupid and have nothing on top. And please stop bringing in your Jonathan into serious matters. He is inconsequential although better than the lifeless and dullard at Aso Rock right now.

Gagare1:
Yes, I am in support that justice MUST be served in full. This is a case where Nigerians are clamouring for justice over a case of forgery; the same people whose majority chose to willingly vote out an erring Phd holder in favor of an old man with forged WAEC certificate. I have come to realise Nigerians are the embodiment of the pharisee spirit. We are eager to throw the first stone at whoever was found guilty of the very crime we practice. After all "na who dem catch be thief". But that is the human point of view. But God judges with a different standard, He sees the heart and judges the human intentions. And when He says the word JUSTICE it is absolute. Better to be convicted by man but vindicated by God. I hope Kemi's confession will lead to genuine repentance on her part. Even though the system may not pardon her, God will forgive and guide her as she bears the consequences of her deeds. BUT WOE UNTO THOSE PASSING JUDGEMENT ON HER WHILE GUILTY OF THE SAME CRIME.

airsaylongcon:


According to the Nigerian Constitution, Chapter 3, section 25[1], citizenship by birth is as follows.

25. (1) The following persons are citizens of Nigeria by birth-namely-

(a) every person born in Nigeria before the date of independence, either of whose parents or any of whose grandparents belongs or belonged to a community indigenous to Nigeria;

Provided that a person shall not become a citizen of Nigeria by virtue of this section if neither of his parents nor any of his grandparents was born in Nigeria.

(b) every person born in Nigeria after the date of independence either of whose parents or any of whose grandparents is a citizen of Nigeria; and

(c) every person born outside Nigeria either of whose parents is a citizen of Nigeria.

(2) In this section, "the date of independence" means the 1st day of October 1960.

By law, you're a citizen of Nigeria as long as either one of your parents or grandparents is Nigerian regardless of your place of birth. This type of citizenship law is called Jus sanguinis (Right of blood). The other type of citizenship law is Jus soli(Right of soil) where citizenship by birth is granted if you're born in the territory of the country.

Naturalization (or naturalisation) is the legal act or process by which a non-citizen in a country may acquire citizenship or nationalityof that country. It may be done by a statute, without any effort on the part of the individual, or it may involve an application and approval by legal authorities. The rules of naturalization vary from country to country and typically include a minimum legal residencyrequirement, and may specify other requirements such as knowledge of the national dominant language or culture, a promise to obey and uphold that country's laws. An oath or pledge of allegiance is also sometimes required. Some countries also require that the person renounce any other citizenship that they currently hold, forbidding dual citizenship, but whether this renunciation actually causes loss of the person's original citizenship, as seen by the host country and by the original country, will again depend on the laws of the countries involved.

lol I dont think you understand what you posted bro.. you are not a citizen until you claim citizenship. How can you say a person born and raised in UK is automatically a Nigerian citizen because his parents are from Nigeria? Is it by force? Ok What if the person doesn't want? Will you force Nigerian passport on them? Having parents from Nigeria only means you have a right to claim Nigerian citizenship if you want and the process will be faster for you. But going through that process is still a form of Naturalization. Kemi did not claim a Nigerian passport until she was 34! that is more than old enough to make he a Naturalized citizen of Nigeria mahn. She even needed a VISA to enter on her previous trips to Nigeria..why would a citizen need a visa? Lol..abeg think again mahn.

slyfoxxjoe:
lol I dont think you understand what you posted bro.. you are not a citizen until you claim citizenship. How can you say a person born and raised in UK is automatically a Nigerian citizen because his parents are from Nigeria? Is it by force? Ok What if the person doesn't want? Will you force Nigerian passport on them? Having parents from Nigeria only means you have a right to claim Nigerian citizenship if you want and the process will be faster for you. But going through that process is still a form of Naturalization. Kemi did not claim a Nigerian passport until she was 34..that is more than old enough to make he a Naturalized citizen of Nigeria mahn.

Naturalisation is for non-citizens. Naturalised citizens get a certificate of citizenship and attend a swearing ceremony. Kemi did none of that. That you fail to claim or assert your citizenship doesn't mean you never had it. Kemi always had Nigerian citizenship by virtue of being born to Nigerian parents

airsaylongcon:


Naturalisation is for non-citizens. Naturalised citizens get a certificate of citizenship and attend a swearing ceremony. Kemi did none of that. That you fail to claim or assert your citizenship doesn't mean you never had it. Kemi always had Nigerian citizenship by virtue of being born to Nigerian parents

she had right to claim Nigerian citizen by heritage she was not automatically a citizen man. Ok why did she need a visa to enter before she got her nigerian passport at age 34? Why didn't she just tell immigration her parents are Nigerian? I was born in another African country myself but have never had their passport. Lived all my life in Nigeria so I dont consider myself a citizen of that country. You actually have to claim the citizenship...it is not imposed on you by force sir.

The simple reason she needs a visa is because she probably at that time do not have a Nigeria Passport. And even if she has a Nigeria passport, some people sometimes for personal reasons opt to get a visa rather than use a Nigeria passport. My children have Nigeria Passport but none of them was born in Nigeria.

slyfoxxjoe:
she had right to claim Nigerian citizen by heritage she was not automatically a citizen man. Ok why did she need a visa to enter before she got her nigerian passport at age 34? Why didn't she just tell immigration her parents are Nigerian? I was born in another African country myself but have never had their passport. Lived all my life in Nigeria so I dont consider myself a citizen of that country. You actually have to claim the citizenship...it is not imposed on you by force sir.

slyfoxxjoe:
lol I dont think you understand what you posted bro.. you are not a citizen until you claim citizenship. How can you say a person born and raised in UK is automatically a Nigerian citizen because his parents are from Nigeria? Is it by force? Ok What if the person doesn't want? Will you force Nigerian passport on them? Having parents from Nigeria only means you have a right to claim Nigerian citizenship if you want and the process will be faster for you. But going through that process is still a form of Naturalization. Kemi did not claim a Nigerian passport until she was 34! that is more than old enough to make he a Naturalized citizen of Nigeria mahn. She even needed a VISA to enter on her previous trips to Nigeria..why would a citizen need a visa? Lol..abeg think again mahn.

A prime example of Nigerian illogical logic.
You do not get to claim what's already yours by right. You only enforce it perchance that right is questioned or threatened.
Saraki was born and educated in the UK. I've not heard it said he first had to 'claim' his Nigerian citizenship.
Citizenship by birth,like human right, is inalienable either by right of blood or by that of soil.

Dhugal:

A prime example of Nigerian illogical logic.
You do not get to claim what's already yours by right. You only enforce it perchance that right is questioned or threatened.
Saraki was born and educated in the UK. I've not heard it said he first had to 'claim' his Nigerian citizenship.
Citizenship by birth,like human right, is inalienable either by right of blood or by that of soil.

oga you're the one with poor logic. I have cousin's born and raised in UK who do not want to hear anyone refer to them as Nigerian. And they are not Nigerian. They are technically British with Nigerian heritage. Learn the difference. 90% of people in the US can trace their heritage to another country..that does not make them Citizens of that country..they are AMERICAN citizens. They may be eligible for citizenship in some of these counties if they had a parent, grand parent or in some cases, great grand parent born in that country but they actively have to want it, and apply for it just like Kemi had to apply for her Nigerian citizenship. It is not bestowed on you by force..are you guys really this thick in this forum?

haveadream:
The simple reason she needs a visa is because she probably at that time do not have a Nigeria Passport. And even if she has a Nigeria passport, some people sometimes for personal reasons opt to get a visa rather than use a Nigeria passport. My children have Nigeria Passport but none of them was born in Nigeria.

why did she not apply for a Nigerian passport for 34 years? She got a visa printed in her British passport like any other British coming into Nigerian because she was a British citizen. She didn't even have dual nationality at the time she was just British lol. I have dual British-Nigerian citizens in my family to and I have never heard of them using a visa to get into Nigeria.. they use their Nigerian passport to come in and their British passport to get out. I am not denying her Nigerian heritage, I am just saying technically, as far as law is concerned, she was not a Nigerian citizen for 34 years of her life untill she actively decided to use her birth right and apply for it. Many other people in her position choose not to use that right. Will you force the citizenship on them by force? The point I am making is very simple and I don't know how you guys can argue with it.

Take it easy Bro/Sis, no need for the harsh words. I will advice you read the whole of my comment and try not to be selective to things you hold grudges against. I believe your mind deliberately missed the fact that I also saw Jonathan as an erring Phd holder, which implies my stand about him as unfit to lead. For reasons known only to you, you assumed me to be a supporter of him (Jonathan). You couldn't be more wrong. I am making a point that Nigerians who are submerged in the brouhaha of Kemi's misfortune should be sure they are not guilty of the same crime. This was done not in defense of Kemi, about whom my stance I believe is clear. I was simply advocating that Nigerians should look inwards before throwing the first stone at the lady in question. Chill, no be fight oooo

haveadream:
I beg spare us this your PhD nonsense. You can have all the education in the world and still be very stupid and have nothing on top. And please stop bringing in your Jonathan into serious matters. He is inconsequential although better than the lifeless and dullard at Aso Rock right now.

millhouse:
but she has fled from the country ..is that not offense number 2 , knowing fully well a hearing on her mata is coming up on the 8th of October, btw , whose monies running into billions was she using to bribe the law makers when they got a wind of the forgery (infact it became like a black mail as she was said to be paying monthly)before the scandal was leaked to the press ? Huh?

You are dumb!

She is a British Citizen, first and foremost, that was she she was invited to come and serve Nigeria and all she did was RETURN to her country of Birth and Residence.... is that what you call "fleeing" or which kind of education taught you that?

Dindinrin, grade one.

Dhugal:

I'm tempted to call you an idiot, but.....
Section 25 of the Nigerian Constitution clearly states that if one of your grandparents or one of your parents is a Nigerian when you were born, then you're a Nigerian by birth.
So, even if you were born in Lebanon or Afghanistan, so far as you have a parent who was a Nigerian when you were born, the requirements of Nigerian laws shackle you.
How the hell do you think all these Fulani and Hausas from Niger easily identify as Nigerians?. It's cause your constitution's native community clause (Section 25 (1)a) made it so
Kemi's parents were both Nigerian when she was born.

I understand that you are tempted, that is a sign of foolishness because as an Idiot, you are not even sure what it means to be an idiot.
Tell me, is Kemi a British citizen by Birth (she was borm in the Uk an dlived all her life, schooling up to University level, till the age of thirty five (35) in Britain?

Between her being British Citizen and being a Nigerian citizen by "parentage", which one superceds which?
Some of you are just educated illiterates that run around quoting a constitution you cant ven interprete.
STFU and stop jumping into conversations beyond your level of thinking.