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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Throwback: 9:04am On Sep 17, 2018
freshboi88:


Nah person say make ur papa no born u for there, d fact that u were born here n grew up here and probably have never entered a plane doesn't make u more Nigerian than them. They r Nigerian wen dey make breakthroughs overseas. But wen it comes to taking political appointments, they r foreigners.


That is the frustrated Nigerian for you.

Some of them actually depend on the stipends sent from their diaspora family.

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by imam07: 9:04am On Sep 17, 2018
Reinvented:

Good, however, let the court be the arbiter. If found guilty of forgery, she should spend 14 years in jail. Ignorantia juris non excusat or ignorantia legis neminem excusat
Do we sill have court in Nigeria? Who are the judges and the lawyers. Benchers of thieves in the judiciary arms of government.

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by TheHeadBoy(m): 9:05am On Sep 17, 2018
CROWNWEALTH019:
Mumu wan defend kemi thinking she would open legs for him grin

This is not necessary at all.
Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Nobody: 9:05am On Sep 17, 2018
resurgent2019:


You can continue being rude to all and sundry in the same country you live. What is my business?

Am I igbo is any of my family igbo in Nigeria?
This is nigeria. Yorubas won't go and attack Hausas and Fulanis who removed their own but will be attacking Igbos.

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Nobody: 9:06am On Sep 17, 2018
jaxxy:
I agree will Ali baba. Nigerians leave major issues and fight minor issues. Most of them attacking Kemi are even hypocrites.
yes I agree that many attacking her are hypocrites, it still doesn't make it a minor issue.

Illegality of this magnitude committed not just by any citizen here but a top public servant is a major major issue. God, what has happened to our sense of justice and moral uprightness?

I am shook

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by skylevelpharma(m): 9:07am On Sep 17, 2018
CROWNWEALTH019:
Mumu wan defend kemi thinking she would open legs for him grin

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Nobody: 9:07am On Sep 17, 2018
Allwility:

What are you even saying? She worked at Chapel Hill Dunham from 2002 even without the forged certificate. Do you know that's a crime? Keep defending impunity.
No Amount Of Explanation Can Undo The Damage,she Is Lyin.She Knew What She Was Doing.So This One Is On Her Shoulders.End Of Story

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by mechanics(m): 9:07am On Sep 17, 2018
Eyah, maybe the person who did it for her was the same person that expose her.

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by holuphisayor(m): 9:08am On Sep 17, 2018
Why are people so slow to think?
Why are you'll defending a forgery case? Oh cos its your beloved adeosun??

If she's not fraudulent why not sue NYSC for issuing a fake certificate to her?

Oh,she got it by proxy when she could easily have visited a state Secretariat to get a copy. Mtcheew

She should be facing court trial by now cos this NYSC have ended lots of lives all in the name of serving a failed country.

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Throwback: 9:08am On Sep 17, 2018
Allwility:

What are you even saying? She worked at Chapel Hill Dunham from 2002 even without the forged certificate. Do you know that's a crime? Keep defending impunity.


No it is not a crime and I know she worked there just as many expatriates working in Nigeria.

Or is she not Briton?


Infact, I know of a Nigerian who schooled up till university level in Nigeria, then went on to Canada for Master's and got his immigration papers there. He later came to work with his multinational oil firm who redeployed him to Nigeria to work and live with the benefits accorded to expatriates.

So yes she can work in any private firm in Nigeria as an expatriate that she was.

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Uguruzik(m): 9:08am On Sep 17, 2018
resurgent2019:


You igbo youths are doing incalculable damage to the image of your tribe and coming generations of igbo in Nigeria.

What will happen if you igbos don’t get Biafra?

This bigotry has really eaten deep into the fabric of igbo society and it’s so sad to see such a big tribe languish in the abyss of hate. Is it the civil war loss that caused this?

Just consider what your children will go through in this same Nigeria where your likes have burnt bridges with other ethnic nationalities.

Everything no be play. Be serious for once.


It's only a stupid Yoruba man that will blame Igbo on everything wrong in Nigeria, how and why do you attribute that comment to Igbo youths even when the name did say show any tribe if you are not burning in the abyss of wickedness and hate for the Igbos

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Nobody: 9:11am On Sep 17, 2018
Throwback:



But these same Nigerians are celebrated here.

Or do we not celebrate the likes of John Boyega or Jidenna?

Do we not celebrate the many music and movies stars that are Nigerian?

Do we not celebrate the likes of Chinwetei Ejiofor or the many Nigerians who are currently full fledged Americans and Britons and are university graduates in the only society they know?

Do you think they are that attached to Nigeria to know that there is some NYSC obligation on them because their ancestors were Nigerians?

Please reason intelligently and rationally. We all have them as our family
Bros, no be me remove your savior, Kemi. The law is if you wld like govt jobs in the future, serve Nigeria now or get a proper exemption document if age or other things won't allow you. Why are you doing epistle?

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by SmartMugu: 9:12am On Sep 17, 2018
CROWNWEALTH019:
Mumu wan defend kemi thinking she would open legs for him grin
I don't really blame you for this childish statement of yours, rather I blame the fellow childish and ignorant ones that gave you 'likes' for this silly comment of yours.
Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by resurgent2019: 9:12am On Sep 17, 2018
Uguruzik:



It's only a stupid Yoruba man that will blame Igbo on everything wrong in Nigeria, how and why do you attribute that comment to Igbo youths even when the name did say show any tribe if you are not burning in the abyss of wickedness hate for the Igbos

You (or your politicians) are the ones feeling the pinch of igbo youths’ actions online.


Wetin be my own? I just sounded a warning.
Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by jaxxy(m): 9:12am On Sep 17, 2018
femiti:
yes I agree that many attacking her are hypocrites, it still doesn't make it a minor issue.

Illegality of this magnitude committed not just by any citizen here but a top public servant is a major major issue. God, what has happened to our sense of justice and moral uprightness?

I am shook

I didn’t say it shudnt be looked into and corrected bt not dissipating all our energy on this when we have bigger and more consequential issues to resolve.

In uk/Us the can look into such minor issues because their system has dealt with most bigger issues of corruption and the like. Here we left major corruption to use all our energy to fight over nysc certificates. That’s my problem. Misplaced Priorities
Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Wiseandtrue(f): 9:13am On Sep 17, 2018
Splashme:
Ali Baba is ignorant of the NYSC law:

1) NYSC does not issue EXEMPTION to everyone above 30yrs. Excemption is only for those who are ABOVE 30yrs AT THE TIME OF GRADUATION. Kemi was 22 at the time of graduation.

2) If you graduate at an age below 30 and fail to serve (like Kemi Adeosun), the NYSC law says you must serve even if you attain the age of 80. No EXCEPTION for such people.
My Dear, leave Ali baba and the BMCs above!

Nothing can justify the forgery of the certificate!

What excuse is he making

If it was the opposition will APC make excuses for them

Why not allow the court to be the judge of that

If a federal government worker can possess a fake certificate what is then the fate of the masses

BUHARI is about to set a wrong antecedent if he allows this to slide!

This will not be the first as in the case of:
Baru
Babachir Lawal
Maina...

Cc:Ali baba
Shall we continue to justify wrong doings

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Nobody: 9:15am On Sep 17, 2018
[quote author=skylevelpharma post=71269644][/quote] Who Gives A Sh!T If She Graduated In Mars.As Long As She Got Naija Blood & Wants 2 Work Here She Must Serve Or If She Needs An Exemption Cert She Shud Gone To D N Y S C In Person & Not Take Short Cut

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Throwback: 9:15am On Sep 17, 2018
ontarioissauga:

Bros, no be me remove your savior, Kemi. The law is if you wld like govt jobs in the future, serve Nigeria now or get a proper exemption document if age or other things won't allow you. Why are you doing epistle?

How is it an epistle to reply you who quoted me.

And how is Kemi Adeosun my saviour?

I reckon I was wrong to think you were mature for a civil debate.
Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Nobody: 9:16am On Sep 17, 2018
Kayharry:
From @alibabagcfr - Many people are getting the Kemi Adeosun NYSC matter wrong. She did not claim to have served. She came back to Nigeria when she had passed the age to serve. She was then advised to get a certificate of exemption. She did not think it was necessary because, clearly she had passed the age.

Then someone advised her to get it. Someone said, since she did not serve, BECAUSE SHE WAS OVER THE AGE TO SERVE, all she needed was the certificate of exemption. They went and got it for her. The person who did, SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN HER A LEGIT ONE. She didn't need to be present to get an exemption. So, it's not that she claimed to have served and was issued a certificate for service she did not render. Many people have insurance cover and driving licence that they did not go through a proper driving test to get.

How about Yellow fever vaccine card? Do you know how many people pick up their yellow fever card at the airport, only to reach destination and are told it's fake. I have talked with some people in the corridors of power. The certificate is not the real reason she resigned. It's the reason given. It's election year. Just like #NOI... There are people who want access to certain federal funds, that only she has access to. And like #NOI, she will not play ball. The best way is to discredit her, and put her out of the office, and by that move now let someone who will dance to their tune. ITS ELECTION SEASON YALL. It happened to @sanusilamidosanusi. QED

https://m.facebook.com/focusafricanews/photos/a.172241293337222/327341387827211/?type=3


yoruba n forgery are like that zuma pinshure, Thats why they are jumping out to defend her.

If it were an igbo woman that forged a certificate, The igbos will disown her straight up

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Nobody: 9:18am On Sep 17, 2018
Throwback:



Are you too daft to understand what she wrote in her resignation? Or did you read that she left Nigeria as a teenager to go study in a university abroad, thereby necessitating the customary return to Nigeria that only exist in your own imagination?


She only visited Nigeria with her British passport on occasions. She was never a resident of Nigeria until she was 34yrs. Till today, her parents still reside in the UK where she was born.

Her interests in Nigeria only began long after she had passed the age to serve. Many Nigerians born and resident in the UK have graduated below the age of 30yrs, yet they do not come to Nigeria for any NYSC because they do not have any business with Nigeria besides visiting when a grandparent died or a cousin was wedding.

That they do not have any interest with Nigeria now does not mean they might not show an interest later.

These are the same type of Nigerians that are daily celebrated here on this forum, as working with Google or Facebook or NASA or the White House. Nigerians in the diaspora, like the ones that were on hand to receive the vice president when he visited Google in the US. Nigerians that don't even know that anything called NYSC exist as it remains irrelevant to them, until the day they decide they want to be Nigerians and not American or Briton.


So by default she made enquires about securing an exemption, and one was certainly obtained through her associates from NYSC but fake. It was not obtained under the bridge at Obalende. It was certainly obtained from NYSC officials who gave a document that was not the legitimate issue.


Many Nigerians currently hold particulars that they think is legitimate having been obtained at the legitimate relevant government office, yet they are invalid.

Forgery is a crime and anyone caught doing it should be sacked and sent to trial.

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Nobody: 9:19am On Sep 17, 2018
blujoi:
100% on point. Me feels Alibaba is right on this. But it’s left for Kemi, now that she’s out of the country and away from whoever or whatever forces shoved her out to spill the beans. Anyways, whatever is hidden will soon be exposed.



Ali baba is right to u because u are an afonja that defends afonja criminals.

She committed a crime..

Ignorance doesnt present any form of self defence in a law court

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by imam07: 9:19am On Sep 17, 2018
BiafraIShere:
So what Alibaba is saying in essence is that Buhari and APC threw Kemi Adeosun, the yoruba version of NOI under the bus to pave way for corruption, I mean to enable them move money for the election without hindrance?? Yet the Yorubas are quite and behaving like nothing happened?? I mean how can abo.kis treat your own daughter this way and you all keep quite shocked shocked Just imagine the disgrace this woman is facing, and to think that her career has been ruined yet she does not even have anyone coming to her defense!! Would buhari treat Adeosun this way if she happened to be a Fulani Muslim woman from the NW?? I have been hearing how people keep calling this guys cowards and slaves, and I thought it was mere rhetoric but with what is happening now I'm afraid it could be a statement of fact!! I can't imagine an Igbo woman say NOI being disgraced like this without Igbos rallying to her defense with all their resources!! It is not ethnocentrism as some people would want to term it but considering how Nigeria is, what is good for the goose is equally good for the gander, and I can say categorically that had Kemi Adeosun been a Hausa fulani Muslim, SHE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN TREATED THIS WAY cry cry
Yoruba are Omoluabi. Forget if she is yoruba and because of that we should support forgery. Yorubas are not tribal in nature like the hausas and ibos. When she was the minister, what benefit did Yorubas got from her. Someone that spent most of her like in the UK and was brought to come and hold a post and u call that one a Nigerian? Is a bad idea bringing someone who has all her education in abroad to come and hold a post here in Nigeria. What about those that here schooling under difficult situation.
Concerning the bad manner Buhari is treating us yoruba. Leave him his tenure is just for a while. Power will change hands one day and he has forgotten that. By the time power exchange, fulani will regret what they have done.

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Niorte: 9:21am On Sep 17, 2018
[quote author=Splashme post=71268876]Ali Baba is ignorant of the NYSC law:

1) NYSC does not issue EXEMPTION to everyone above 30yrs. Excemption is only for those who are ABOVE 30yrs AT THE TIME OF GRADUATION. Kemi was 22 at the time of graduation.

2) If you graduate at an age below 30 and fail to serve (like Kemi Adeosun), the NYSC law says you must serve even if you attain the age of 80. No EXCEPTION for such people.


You are very correct.

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Nobody: 9:21am On Sep 17, 2018
Kay17:


This is the most daft post i have ever seen in my "short" stay on Nairaland.

Regardless of whom she enlisted to get her the exemption certificate, she bears the full moral responsibility for certificate debacle.

Corruption has eaten too deep that people have become unconscious to it.
This country and its countrymen are dead. Read his quadruple siblings example. Four of them paid to go through Cambridge but too much to serve in Nigeria. We are dead here!
Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by CowbellY: 9:22am On Sep 17, 2018
Throwback:



Are you too daft to understand what she wrote in her resignation? Or did you read that she left Nigeria as a teenager to go study in a university abroad, thereby necessitating the customary return to Nigeria that only exist in your own imagination?


She only visited Nigeria with her British passport on occasions. She was never a resident of Nigeria until she was 34yrs. Till today, her parents still reside in the UK where she was born.

Her interests in Nigeria only began long after she had passed the age to serve. Many Nigerians born and resident in the UK have graduated below the age of 30yrs, yet they do not come to Nigeria for any NYSC because they do not have any business with Nigeria besides visiting when a grandparent died or a cousin was wedding.

That they do not have any interest with Nigeria now does not mean they might not show an interest later.

These are the same type of Nigerians that are daily celebrated here on this forum, as working with Google or Facebook or NASA or the White House. Nigerians in the diaspora, like the ones that were on hand to receive the vice president when he visited Google in the US. Nigerians that don't even know that anything called NYSC exist as it remains irrelevant to them, until the day they decide they want to be Nigerians and not American or Briton.


So by default she made enquires about securing an exemption, and one was certainly obtained through her associates from NYSC but fake. It was not obtained under the bridge at Obalende. It was certainly obtained from NYSC officials who gave a document that was not the legitimate issue.


Many Nigerians currently hold particulars that they think is legitimate having been obtained at the legitimate relevant government office, yet they are invalid.

The onus and blame still lies on Kemi, shẹ presented the forged certificate, we hold her responsible after all she did cause a certificate to be gotten on her behalf.
If she accepts the job the certificate brings, she must also accept the punishment the fake certificate brings.

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by Nobody: 9:22am On Sep 17, 2018
realborn:
Mr NORSYIK is right.

The moment she became “interested” in Public Office (whether by her desire or the wish of others) that has NYSC discharge or exemption certificate as a prerequisite, then, compliance became mandatory.

Unfortunately, the controversial NYSC Act, subsection 2(2)(a) cites exemption for anyone who at the time of graduation is over the age of thirty. This implies that whenever you return to Nigeria and seem interested in activities that require NYSC, except for other conditions stated under the aforesaid subsection, you must serve! Not so logical considering that we may at different times, urgently require the expert services of Nigerians in diaspora who have in the past found no need to engage in activities within Nigeria requiring compliance with the NYSC act. Perhaps the authors of this act deliberately wanted everyone who graduates or graduated below the age of thirty to serve. I would have suggested an amendment to the subsection to cite exemption “for persons who apply when they are over the age of thirty”.

Thus Madam Adeosun was not qualified fir exemption nor was it appropriate for her to obtain a fake one. I doubt there are other conspiracy theories other than she resigned as soon as her employers, the Nigerian masses, got wind of the anomaly and backed same with the verdict that she resigns. If it is true she was previously blackmailed by sharks, now she is free; at least it doesn’t seem the FG wants to prosecute her.

Perhaps a good head just left. Perhaps a better head may be found to replace her. Do we need to revisit some sections of our bye-laws? Time will tell.


My 2 cents...






''Perhaps a good head just left.''

Stop deceiving urself.



Forget all those technicaities, They are useless in the face of the law.

She simply forged a document which she should never have done considering her background n considering that she is much more civilized than the average nigerian because of her exposure while living in the u.k for decades.

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by VULCAN(m): 9:23am On Sep 17, 2018
It's nauseating how ignorant some people are about the Laws of their land but they rush to social media to type rubbish.

The NYSC Act states that Exemption is for those who graduated first degree above 30years of age not whose who returned to Nigeria above 30yrs of age.

Educated illiterates all over.

Throwback:



Are you too daft to understand what she wrote in her resignation? Or did you read that she left Nigeria as a teenager to go study in a university abroad, thereby necessitating the customary return to Nigeria that only exist in your own imagination?


She only visited Nigeria with her British passport on occasions. She was never a resident of Nigeria until she was 34yrs. Till today, her parents still reside in the UK where she was born.

Her interests in Nigeria only began long after she had passed the age to serve. Many Nigerians born and resident in the UK have graduated below the age of 30yrs, yet they do not come to Nigeria for any NYSC because they do not have any business with Nigeria besides visiting when a grandparent died or a cousin was wedding.

That they do not have any interest with Nigeria now does not mean they might not show an interest later.

These are the same type of Nigerians that are daily celebrated here on this forum, as working with Google or Facebook or NASA or the White House. Nigerians in the diaspora, like the ones that were on hand to receive the vice president when he visited Google in the US. Nigerians that don't even know that anything called NYSC exist as it remains irrelevant to them, until the day they decide they want to be Nigerians and not American or Briton.


So by default she made enquires about securing an exemption, and one was certainly obtained through her associates from NYSC but fake. It was not obtained under the bridge at Obalende. It was certainly obtained from NYSC officials who gave a document that was not the legitimate issue.


Many Nigerians currently hold particulars that they think is legitimate having been obtained at the legitimate relevant government office, yet they are invalid.

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by princejenks(m): 9:23am On Sep 17, 2018
I disagree with ali baba,the issue is even beyond whether the certificate was legit or not but rather whether she qualified for the exemption in the first place. By nysc laws,she wasn't qualified for the exemption cos she graduated before age 30 which means even if she came back to Nigeria after the age of 30,she's still elligible for service cos of the age she graduated.

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by naijapips04: 9:24am On Sep 17, 2018
Throwback:



No it is not a crime and I know she worked there just as many expatriates working in Nigeria.

Or is she not Briton?


Infact, I know of a Nigerian who schooled up till university level in Nigeria, then went on to Canada for Master's and got his immigration papers there. He later came to work with his multinational oil firm who redeployed him to Nigeria to work and live with the benefits accorded to expatriates.

So yes she can work in any private firm in Nigeria as an expatriate that she was.

Dude she's not entitled to any exemption certificate. She graduated before 30. Stop trying to deceive people.

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Re: Ali Baba Speaks On Kemi Adeosun’s Resignation Saga Over NYSC Certificate Scandal by emezuo17: 9:24am On Sep 17, 2018
resurgent2019:


You igbo youths are doing incalculable damage to the image of your tribe and coming generations of igbo in Nigeria.

What will happen if you igbos don’t get Biafra?

This bigotry has really eaten deep into the fabric of igbo society and it’s so sad to see such a big tribe languish in the abyss of hate. Is it the civil war loss that caused this?

Just consider what your children will go through in this same Nigeria where your likes have burnt bridges with other ethnic nationalities.

Everything no be play. Be serious for once.
. Please that guy is not Igbo, I have seen his post talking about Benue, I think he is Benue

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