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Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by Pro2makx(m): 1:10pm On Sep 30, 2018
LordReed:


Then he should appear in those ways. In fact one test I device for proving an omnipotent being is for him to simultaneously appear to every single person as a discrete being in all 7+billion cases.

But of course he is claimed to be a spirit so that you can conveniently move him close and far away when it suits you. An omnipotent God that cannot give clear and unequivocal evidence of his existence is not worth the trouble.

You think too highly of yourself. So much pride and high mindedness in your words. I wonder if you realize you are just like a mere chicken in this poultry called a universe. I wonder if you realize you are insignificant to the farm owner (God). He can decide to terminate you anyday if he wishes, your shouts and noise means nothing in his ears. He probably will notice you if you bear fruits (useful). And if you are not, you probably get sold off or end in the soup pot (hell).
Each time you get that urge again to question or slander God, just remember, you are just a chicken in a large poultry farm called the Universe. Dont be stu.pid to think you, a NOBODY (mortal body) can coerce God.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by Nobody: 1:12pm On Sep 30, 2018
LordReed:


So why did you ask me the question?

Matter is a result of what expanded after the big bang.

Well, I'm only curious for more knowledge!

Back to the point...


Matters were fed as reactants for the big bang.

So, how could the big bang be the origin of matter?
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by LordReed(m): 1:15pm On Sep 30, 2018
LyfeJennings:
LordReed
I'm very impressed
I like the way U construct ur expression
As much as I'd love to be with U and accept all ur positions. Unfortunately, I can't. To be honest,God is real, He exists but the answers to ur question lies with Him only. Esp when U asked why the Omnipotent knew man was a wreck and still went further to create us. My brother, God get pattern for hand and His ways ehnnn na die. U can never know, not cos U don't deserve to know but ur thinking capability no reach.....
That nigga called God exists big time....
But His ways na die.....
U will encounter Him if u truly give Him a chance. U fit no dey see am like this born again liars o but U will find Him . Cheers man

He has my permission to engage unequivocally. He has every facility at his omnipotent disposal to reach me without intermediaries. He knows what to say to me to convince me 100%. Let him make his move.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by Melian(f): 1:17pm On Sep 30, 2018
Can any Christian answer these questions for me?

1. Why did God choose to bless Jacob at the expense of his brother Esau? And through deceit at that.

2. Why did God single out Joseph amongst his brothers to become rich and successful? Could it be that Joseph had two heads and his brothers didn't?

3. David was a fornicator and adulterer...yet.

4. Your God said, "I will have mercy upon who I'll have mercy upon". Does this mean God's goodness isn't automatic? He does as he pleases but expects you to be perfect. His "good" deeds are based on his discretion or worst still his mood.

5. He calls us his children. That he loves us. He says, "just believe in me, call me your lord and saviour and you shall have an everlasting life". Indeed.

6. You aren't supposed to be jealous of your neighbors, you should love them. But God calls himself a jealous God. Isn't your God a hypocrite?

7. He wants you to keep praying and clapping sha. Pray pray pray. Be strong in faith. If it's not working for you, it's because your faith isn't strong enough.

8. My own earthly father loves his children equally. Infact, my father is so perfect in his ways that you cannot tell who he loves the most amongst us. But this your God will give to a select few what should be enjoyed by everybody and still brag about it. Yet he calls himself perfection. He says, "if you ask of your earthly father bread, will he give you stone? How much more I". Wicked being and a liar. I think Satan took after him and he's just jealous he's beating him to his game.

9. All I see is a very selfish person in the name of God who wants everything for himself. He takes a hundred from you but gives two in return.

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Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by LordReed(m): 1:17pm On Sep 30, 2018
Pro2makx:


You think too highly of yourself. So much pride and high mindedness in your words. I wonder if you realize you are just like a mere chicken in this poultry called a universe. I wonder if you realize you are insignificant to the farm owner (God). He can decide to terminate you anyday if he wishes, your shouts and noise means nothing in his ears. He probably will notice you if you bear fruits (useful). And if you are not, you probably get sold off or end in the soup pot (hell).
Each time you get that urge again to question or slander God, just remember, you are just a chicken in a large poultry farm called the Universe. Dont be stu.pid to think you, a NOBODY (mortal body) can coerce God.

Oh I realise how insignificant I am in the scheme of things, I don't need a god to tell me that. If god feels challenged he knows what to do. LMFAO!

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Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by LordReed(m): 1:21pm On Sep 30, 2018
Noel1:


Well, I'm only curious for more knowledge!

Back to the point...

Matters were fed as reactants for the big bang.

So, how could the big bang be the origin of matter bro?

The big bang is just the name we gave to the event that precipitated the rapid expansion of space from a point much smaller than what it is now. At some point before that event, something, we don't know the nature of, existed. That something after the event expanded into the universe we know now.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by Melian(f): 1:25pm On Sep 30, 2018
Pro2makx:


Each time you get that urge again to question or slander God, just remember, you are just a chicken in a large poultry farm called the Universe. Dont be stu.pid to think you, a NOBODY (mortal body) can coerce God.

He can terminate him, really? Is this a new thing? Or how do you explain why he allows an innocent child to die? A mother who loses her child, don't you know she'll mourn forever? Can you imagine the pain? Yet God allows these things. He likes to give and take back. Give and take games are what he uses to test his power.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by Nobody: 1:26pm On Sep 30, 2018
LordReed:


The big bang is just the name we gave to the event that precipitated the rapid expansion of space from a point much smaller than what it is now. At some point before that event, something, we don't know the nature of, existed. That something after the event expanded into the universe we know now.

If 'something we don't know the nature of' like u said, existed before the big bang.

That means matter existed before the big bang.

Remember: "Matter is anything that has mass and occupies space".

So, what was the origin of matter?
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by Uchenaija: 1:27pm On Sep 30, 2018
LordReed:


LoL how does my answer indicate I don't know where I am from?

You said you're an atheist, unless that's not correct.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by LordReed(m): 1:28pm On Sep 30, 2018
Noel1:


If 'something we don't know the nature of' existed before the big bang.

That means matter existed before the big bang.

Remember: "Matter is anything that has mass and occupies space".

So, what was the origin of matter?

As we know it, there was no space then so how do you define this thing as matter?
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by LordReed(m): 1:30pm On Sep 30, 2018
Uchenaija:


You said you're an atheist, unless that's not correct.

Reread my statement.

LordReed:


That's the name people call people in my position even if I don't call myself that.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by Nobody: 1:31pm On Sep 30, 2018
LordReed:


As we know it, there was no space then so how do you define this thing as matter?

Good!

1. Firstly, tell me three reactants that were fed into the big bang.

2. Secondly, if there was not a space as u claimed, then what provided the medium for the reaction?
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by Uchenaija: 1:35pm On Sep 30, 2018
LordReed:


Reread my statement.

.

That's the name people call people in my position even if I don't call myself that..

Maybe the position is not clear here, so what's your own position?
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by LordReed(m): 1:35pm On Sep 30, 2018
Noel1:


Good!

1. Firstly, tell me three reactants that were fed into the big bang.

2. Secondly, if there was not a space as u claimed, then what provided the medium for the reaction?

We don't know.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by LordReed(m): 1:38pm On Sep 30, 2018
Uchenaija:


.

Maybe the position is not clear here, so what's your own position?

I don't believe in any sort of god or supernatural being.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by Nobody: 1:40pm On Sep 30, 2018
LordReed:


We don't know.

Plz read more on the big bang bro!

Nice chatting with you...

1. Finally, if u don't even know the Origin of the universe, it means human knowledge is limited.

So, it's unscientific to claim that God exists or he doesn't .

2. There's no proven fact whatsoever to prove or refute the existence of God.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by CheapDataGuy: 1:46pm On Sep 30, 2018
Bidobado1:


Palestinian pastor authorized by Israel.
Why can't he ask God to set his people free from the oppression of a so called chosen people.
Same thing I have been thinking ooo.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by LordReed(m): 1:50pm On Sep 30, 2018
Noel1:


Plz read more on the big bang bro!

Nice chatting with you...

1. Finally, if u don't even know the Origin of the universe, it means human knowledge is limited.

So, it's unscientific to claim that God exists or he doesn't .

2. There's no proven fact whatsoever to prove or refute the existence of God.

We never said human knowledge was complete nor we say it was infallible.

Apparently you know more about the big bang why not share?

I refuse to indulge in a fruitless pursuit, if god exists then I don't need to believe.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by Nobody: 1:54pm On Sep 30, 2018
LordReed:


We never said human knowledge was complete nor we say it was infallible.

Apparently you know more about the big bang why not share?

I refuse to indulge in a fruitless pursuit, if god exists then I don't need to believe.

Ha ha...

That's it. A more proper word to use is "believe".

Now, I have no problem with ur "belief".

Belief is subject to personal bias or prejudice.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by YorubaEmir: 1:56pm On Sep 30, 2018
Mariangeles:
Hell (hades) was not made for man.
Hell is for Satan and it's demons.
It can never be God's will that man spend eternity with Satan, but that is what will happen if man reject God in his life .

You are not getting the question.

Rejecting God as you put it is a design flaw. How can you create something that will fail or reject you and still punish it when it fails? Or is he not All-knowing? Didn't he forsee this fault before launching his design? grin

Why did God wipe the world with water then? Did he not see that "there was design flaws and his expectations were not met"? Why did man have to suffer for this consequences of design flaw? That's the question grin
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by thesolutions(m): 2:04pm On Sep 30, 2018
LordReed:


He should appear in 10% glory then, even 1% is still good, as long as he appears. Dreams are constructs of our mind not any supernatural occurrence.

Your reasoning though.

You can not ask the sun to shine less or shine more. It is the sun.but the sun is not animate to know when its scourge is affecting other animates and humans so they had to device a way of Protecting themselves from it scourge.

God knows better. He even told Moses that he can't stand his glory when he requested to see him. God had to offer his shadow and back and that alone was too glorious for Moses. I know that is just a bible story to you but you can't make that request because you neither know nor believe.

Live your life though.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by Mpanyi: 2:07pm On Sep 30, 2018
LordReed:
Here's the thing all the so called personal encounters are never full on physical encounters. It's either a dream, an impression or a "vision" (more likely a sort of dream as well).

Why is an omnipotent God incapable of having full on physical contact with the people he supposedly loves? Why is everything left to be subjected to the highly distorting realm of dreams and impressions? I would never trust any person who comes and tells me he learnt how to fly a plane from a dream so why should I trust people who say they encountered the creator of the universe in a dream? And he gave them instructions for all of humanity in that dream? Really?

Solve problem about humanity first. Answer some questions first about creation from scientific point of view first before you delve into what is way beyond you.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by Mpanyi: 2:11pm On Sep 30, 2018
YorubaEmir:


You are not getting the question.

Rejecting God as you put it is a design flaw. How can you create something that will fail or reject you and still punish it when it fails? Or is he not All-knowing? Didn't he forsee this fault before launching his design? grin

Why did God wipe the world with water then? Did he not see that "there was design flaws and his expectations were not met"? Why did man have to suffer for this consequences of design flaw? That's the question grin

Do you ever have cause to punish he who you loved for going against your rule? If yes. Why punish the person since you knew he would liely be on the wrong side of the rule. In fact why even make the rule at first instance.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by LordReed(m): 2:20pm On Sep 30, 2018
Noel1:


Ha ha...

That's it. A more proper word to use is "believe".

Now, I have no problem with ur "belief".

Belief is subject to personal bias or prejudice.

And your knowledge of the big bang?
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by LordReed(m): 2:21pm On Sep 30, 2018
thesolutions:


Your reasoning though.

You can not ask the sun to shine less or shine more. It is the sun.but the sun is not animate to know when its scourge is affecting other animates and humans so they had to device a way of Protecting themselves from it scourge.

God knows better. He even told Moses that he can't stand his glory when he requested to see him. God had to offer his shadow and back and that alone was too glorious for Moses. I know that is just a bible story to you but you can't make that request because you neither know nor believe.

Live your life though.

Yeah but Abraham saw him didn't he?
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by LordReed(m): 2:22pm On Sep 30, 2018
Mpanyi:


Solve problem about humanity first. Answer some questions first about creation from scientific point of view first before you delve into what is way beyond you.







LoL, yeah god is beyond me but you know god right?
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by thesolutions(m): 2:24pm On Sep 30, 2018
LordReed:


Yeah but Abraham saw him didn't he?

Please point that out for me to read.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by DavidEsq(m): 2:28pm On Sep 30, 2018
LordReed:


LoL. If anybody tries this today, they'll be called scam artists. So you are telling me, an omnipotent, omniscient god can not communicate with his creation that he loves, in unequivocal terms and ways, for Pete's sake the book was written by men. Instead he is reduced to speaking through special people who bring this message as from god? LMFAO! Damn this scam is so fucking strong. May be I should just pastor up and fleece people with this nonsense.
Haba Bros! I understand u are saying that since the bible was written by men, it is a book filled with scam or can be used as a scam. Therefore, God wld nee nee speak to us in oda way and means. Am I correct that this I wat u are saying?
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by Mujtahida: 2:35pm On Sep 30, 2018
LordReed:


True. I think no popular conception of god makes any sense to me ATM.
Take your pen and begin to write: and God said to me LordReed I will surely bless you and make you the president of Nigeria, your descendants will be great. And I said to the Lord 'blessed be your name most high God for looking with pity upon the lowliness of your servant. What have I done that you should bestow such boundless blessing on me?

And God said it is because I love you and I have chosen you and your descendants out of all people for a purpose


This is fiction. But should it survive for one thousand years, it would become the basis of the religion of some people on earth.


The day I realised that man can create fiction and get people to believe in it is the day I reasoned that the Bible is Jewish myth, Jewish fiction.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by DavidEsq(m): 2:37pm On Sep 30, 2018
Melian:
Can any Christian answer these questions for me?

1. Why did God choose to bless Jacob at the expense of his brother Esau? And through deceit at that.

2. Why did God single out Joseph amongst his brothers to become rich and successful? Could it be that Joseph had two heads and his brothers didn't?

3. David was a fornicator and adulterer...yet.

4. Your God said, "I will have mercy upon who I'll have mercy upon". Does this not mean God's goodness is not automatic? He does as he pleases but expects you to be perfect. His "good" deeds are based on his discretion or worst still his mood.

5. He calls us his children. That he loves us. He says, "just believe in me, call me your lord and saviour and you shall have an everlasting life". Indeed.

6. You aren't supposed to be jealous of your neighbors, you should love them. But God calls himself a jealous God. Isn't your God a hypocrite?

7. He wants you to keep praying and clapping sha. Pray pray pray. Be strong in faith. If it's not working for you, it's because your faith isn't strong enough.

8. My own earthly father loves his children equally. Infact, my father his so perfect in his ways that you cannot tell who he loves the most amongst us. But this your God will give to a select few what should be enjoyed by everybody and still brag about it. Yet he calls himself perfection. He says, "if you ask of your earthly father bread, will he give you stone? How much more I". Wicked being and liar. I think Satan took after him and he's just jealous he's beating him to his game.

9. All I see is a very selfish person in the name of God who wants everything for himself. He takes a hundred from you but gives two in return.


When u say God "chose" to bless Jacob as against Esau, how exactly did these blessings come about?
The bible records that Isaac favoured Esau and sough to bless him, but was deceived by Jacob. Also, the bible records that Esau sold his birth right (which is his right to the blessings Isaac was to shower on him). Was it not clear that Esau voluntarily relinquished his rights and blessings? Now does the bible not show us that Jacob suffered the consequences of his deceit? Pls giv me a few hours (I wan cook) so I wld show u the scriptures on the above. But first ponder on my answers.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by LordReed(m): 2:39pm On Sep 30, 2018
thesolutions:


Please point that out for me to read.


Read Genesis 18.
Re: Pastor Bassam Adranly: 'My Ecounter With Jesus That Led Me To Repent' by LordReed(m): 2:43pm On Sep 30, 2018
DavidEsq:

Haba Bros! I understand u are saying that since the bible was written by men, it is a book filled with scam or can be used as a scam. Therefore, God wld nee nee speak to us in oda way and means. Am I correct that this I wat u are saying?

The Bible was not even a book until some men decided to strengthen their positions as arbiters of the spiritual, they then gathered together various written narratives and called it the Bible the infallible word of god. Really? Omnipotent god can not write his own book? He needed some power hungry humans to construct a book for him? My guy that is the definition of scam.

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