As part of the aim of this thread, which I believe is not given to vain janglings, is to look for a period of time convenient for us in a week, it may just be a few minutes, it may be up to some hours out of our tight schedule to just intercede in tongues together at the same time at our different places. We can alternate prayer points, it may be just tonguing as the spirit wills etc your suggestion is needed on this. I always believe believers can do something great being united in the spirit even when not together physically.

For those who truly love to learn, we can find different uses/aspects of tongues being highlighted in the Bible:

1. For Evangelism - Here we find the Holy Spirit giving utterances of other human languages to the speakers who had not learnt the language before thereby communicating the wonderful works of God to the other men of different language.
Acts 2:7-11 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

2. For Prophecy - Here we find the Holy Spirit expressing a message in an unknown tongue through the speaker, most especially in a gathering of believers. The speaker or any other person with gift of interpretation of tongues may interpret the message.
1 Corinthians 14:27-28 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

3. For Personal Spiritual Edification in prayer, worship, various spiritual communications, accessing things of the Spirit and devotion to God - Here we find the Holy Spirit helping the believer in various forms of spiritual edification as listed above.
1 Corinthians 14:28 (But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; ) AND LET HIM SPEAK TO HIMSELF, AND TO GOD.
1 Corinthians 14:2, 4 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
Jude 1:20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,


All these are saying that there are various application of tongues.

Brokay2908:
As part of the aim of this thread, which I believe is not given to vain janglings, is to look for a period of time convenient for us in a week, it may just be a few minutes, it may be up to some hours out of our tight schedule to just intercede in tongues together at the same time at our different places. We can alternate prayer points, it may be just tonguing as the spirit wills etc your suggestion is needed on this. I always believe believers can do something great being united in the spirit even when not together physically.

a very welcome development. Am in

oyeludef:
God bless you.
Since u read Myles books, I recommend you read his book "Most important person in the universe" ...

You thought I was just saying about Myles

Myles Munroe RIP, really, was one of my best mentors because he was so much informed in the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven
but remember I said, that whatever I learned from Myles has to be first vetted and okayed by my Teacher (i.e. the oldest MVP in the universe)

Myles' "The Most Important Person on Earth: The Holy Spirit Governor of the Kingdom" has too many to gaping holes to mention.
Myles goofed and thats why there are things written in this book, about speaking in tongue, that have more holes in them than Swiss cheese

"I would even conclude that speaking in tongues is not really an option for a citizen of the kingdom of heaven."
- Myles Munroe RIP
"The Most Important Person on Earth: The Holy Spirit Governor of the Kingdom" Page 246 ©

oyeludef, that was Myles on page 246 of his book
but remember, Paul, in 1 Corinthians 12:29 onwards, asked,
"Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? "
The answer on each account is No, no, no, no.

Then at 1 Corinthians 12:31, Paul says:
"but you covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way."
and it was after that comment in 1 Corinthians 12:31, that he introduced and brought in 1 Corinthians 13:1
Myles is contradicting what Paul in 1 Corinthians 12:29 onwards, had to say about not "all fingers are equal"
Not all, speak in tongues, is an indication, it is not required for all.

The above is just one hole out of many in the book.
I already in my previous post have dealt with quite a few of the holes in Myles's book,
so I wouldnt bore you down with them here again and besides, I want to have a short comment to post

Myles wasnt a perfect man, Myles like everyone of us, made mistakes because of his flaws,
and I admit I usually cringe when I see him exhibiting one particular flaw,
like done in that book and also particularly when he is on pulpit/seminars/Praise-A-Thon

I once asked God about him, that why did God take Myles out.
I'll spare you from the shock and stark reality answer I got.

oyeludef:
I will not argue further on this. Thank you

The Lesson of the Lamp
"¹⁶No one lights a lamp and covers it with a jar or puts it under a bed.
Instead, he sets it on a lampstand, so those who enter can see the light.
¹⁷For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed,
and nothing concealed that will not be known and illuminated.
¹⁸Pay attention, therefore, to how you listen.
Whoever has will be given more, but whoever does not have,
even what he thinks he has, will be taken away from him.”
- Luke 8:16-18

Who is arguing on anything with you?
I dont do arguments and seriously have no need to give to arguing.
Even you, that has been arguing, it is evident that your arguments are weak

Nothing, in what I've so far typed will not make you a lesser believer
rather every aspect of what I've so far typed shed light to see,
and that's good enough to empower you to becoming a bigger, stronger, better, efficient and effective believer

Though truth is priceless, especially in these times, its rare
I learned that you don't have to ever try to control the truth.
and so, all I have so far done, is let the truth out, by revealing the facts connected with the matter to make the matter clear

You see oyeludef, I really dont do argues,
I instead, let the facts I present, speak for themselves and then let the reader(s) decide
The truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose and it will defend itself.

Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it doesnt mean it is going away

MuttleyLaff:
You thought I was just saying about Myles

Myles Munroe RIP, really, was one of my best mentors because he was so much informed in the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven
but remember I said, that whatever I learned from Myles has to be first vetted and okayed by my Teacher (i.e. the oldest MVP in the universe)

Myles' "The Most Important Person on Earth: The Holy Spirit Governor of the Kingdom" has too many to gaping holes to mention.
Myles goofed and thats why there are things written in this book, about speaking in tongue, that have more holes in them than Swiss cheese

"I would even conclude that speaking in tongues is not really an option for a citizen of the kingdom of heaven."
- Myles Munroe RIP
"The Most Important Person on Earth: The Holy Spirit Governor of the Kingdom" Page 246 ©

oyeludef, that was Myles on page 246 of his book
but remember, Paul, in 1 Corinthians 12:29 onwards, asked,
"Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? "
The answer on each account is No, no, no, no.

Then at 1 Corinthians 12:31, Paul says:
"but you covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way."
and it was after that comment in 1 Corinthians 12:31, that he introduced and brought in 1 Corinthians 13:1
Myles is contradicting what Paul in 1 Corinthians 12:29 onwards, had to say about not "all fingers are equal"
Not all, speak in tongues, is an indication, it is not required for all.

The above is just one hole out of many in the book.
I already in my previous post have dealt with quite a few of the holes in Myles's book,
so I wouldnt bore you down with them here again and besides, I want to have a short comment to post

Myles wasnt a perfect man, Myles like everyone of us, made mistakes because of his flaws,
and I admit I usually cringe when I see him exhibiting one particular flaw,
like done in that book and also particularly when he is on pulpit/seminars/Praise-A-Thon

I once asked God about him, that why did God take Myles out.
I'll spare you from the shock and stark reality answer I got.

The Lesson of the Lamp
"¹⁶No one lights a lamp and covers it with a jar or puts it under a bed.
Instead, he sets it on a lampstand, so those who enter can see the light.
¹⁷For there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed,
and nothing concealed that will not be known and illuminated.
¹⁸Pay attention, therefore, to how you listen.
Whoever has will be given more, but whoever does not have,
even what he thinks he has, will be taken away from him.”
- Luke 8:16-18

Who is arguing on anything with you?
I dont do arguments and seriously have no need to give to arguing.
Even you, that has been arguing, it is evident that your arguments are weak

Nothing, in what I've so far typed will not make you a lesser believer
rather every aspect of what I've so far typed shed light to see,
and that's good enough to empower you to becoming a bigger, stronger, better, efficient and effective believer

Though truth is priceless, especially in these times, its rare
I learned that you don't have to ever try to control the truth.
and so, all I have so far done, is let the truth out, by revealing the facts connected with the matter to make the matter clear

You see oyeludef, I really dont do argues,
I instead, let the facts I present, speak for themselves and then let the reader(s) decide
The truth is like a lion. You don't have to defend it. Let it loose and it will defend itself.

Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it doesnt mean it is going away

you need not stress.. Did is same way some argue there is no God but we that have met him know the fact. I speak in tongues and it strengthen my spiritual gift of discernment of spirits. Until u have experienced same or walk in the supernaturall, u will never understand. It's also nice to know u are more knowledgeable than Dr Myles u claim was ur mentor.

bloodofthelamb:
Yeah speaking in tongue (other human language you are not familiar with) is a wonderful gift, not the kind we practice today.

Speaking in tongues, in the bible, has always been human languages bloodofthelamb
So do you see, how in your comment, you're in conflict with what speaking in tongue is?

bloodofthelamb:
Speaking what is not interpretable

Speaking in tongues in the bible, has always been interpretable
If you speak it in a gathering and no one can interpret, you are biblically advised to immediately shut up.

I am curious, why do you want to speak what is not interpretable anyway?
Who are you trying to hide what you are praying from?

Does the devil knows what thoughts you have in your head?
Is the devil able to read your mind?
Will the devil understand, when you silently pray in your mind or pray without uttering audible words

Why do you want to pray without your understanding, as in, what your mind cant understand,
when Paul, rather says, I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with my understanding?

oyeludef:
you need not stress..
Did is same way some argue there is no God but we that have met him know the fact.

I am not stressed
but it is a good thing and a right sign that the discussion isnt putting you at ease
You however remain, like the proverbial frog, placed in tepid water, which is then brought to a boil slowly

oyeludef:
I speak in tongues and it strengthen my spiritual gift of discernment of spirits.

There is no biblical support that speaking in tongues, strengthens spiritual gift of discernment of the spirits

Haba, oyeludef, kilode?
Where in 1 Corinthians 12:4-11 or anywhere else in the bible
do you read that speaking in tongues, strengthens spiritual gift of discernment of the spirits
when the gift of speaking in tongues and the gift of discernment of the spirits
are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually has He wills? SMH.

oyeludef:
Until u have experienced same or walk in the supernaturall, u will never understand.

One thing you can be certain of, is, I am not, will not lead you or anyone else, for that matter, astray
As I earlier said, you'll only come out better, stronger, more effective in your prayer life and wise

I remember years ago, when I used to drive my elder kid to boarding house.
It usually is a 3 hours back to back travel journey and right from from leaving our driveway,
it was me behind the steering wheel, "speaking in tongue" all throughout the entire journey
My elder kid used to watch me like what is going on Dad
and I go like, dont worry about it kiddo, I am praying

I know about what you think is "speaking in tongue" .
I've been there, sold it, done it and had that "speaking in tongue" T-shirt
So I know and can say a bit and more about "speaking in tongue"

I have shared here quite a bit on the matter
When you're ready for more, you know where to find me and/or how to engage me
We can even do it, a la Nicodemus style, in camera
Yorubas will say, "Ti ogun ẹ ni ba dani loju, a maa nfi gba ori"

oyeludef:
It's also nice to know u are more knowledgeable than Dr Myles u claim was ur mentor.

"⁴And my message and my preaching were very plain.
Rather than using clever and persuasive speeches,
I relied only on the power of the Holy Spirit.
⁵I did this so you would trust not in human wisdom but in the power of God"
- 1 Corinthians 2:4-5

Good mentors are always glad that their mentee, gets to be more knowledgeable than they are

No need for innuendos.
Leave me out of it oyeludef
If you want to attack something, attack the message, not the messenger

You trawled YouTube and wrote "Here is a great video on this topic I found on YouTube"
I couldnt believe you had the audacity to post that video link

The guy in the video was a joke, he contradicted himself so many times over
and also confirmed he was at loggerheads to what Paul said
He was selling false dreams and telling them of false hopes with speaking in tongues

Remember, I earlier posted, about you and I, knowing many so called tongues speaking christians
who do not have love, yet regularly during prayer sessions,
are all called upon and propelled by pastors/worship leaders to start "speaking in tongues" and pray in tongues,
this done without interpretation as the bible advises

You're standing on a table with uneven and wobbly legs,
and that's why you dont want the table shaken

You and others oyeludef, are trying to keep your balance on a wobbly table.
I understand you all, besides I know old habits die hard,
even, as for me, it has been known, to want to sneak back on me

MuttleyLaff, you misunderstood me. I agree with you on this. Speaking in tongues has always been human language, not uttering non understandable words.

bloodofthelamb:
MuttleyLaff, you misunderstood me. I agree with you on this.
Speaking in tongues has always been human language,
not uttering non understandable words.

I doff my hat to you my dear Sire.
Maximum respect, more power to your elbow and more anointing fall on your head

MuttleyLaff:
I doff my hat to you my dear Sire.
Maximum respect, more power to your elbow and more anointing fall on your head

Sir, how did you stop speaking in that glossomania called tongue? For me, it took me a while to stop it through the help of the Spirit. I had to retrain my mind to stop, when I got the revelation personally.

I was a pro in speaking in the fake tongue.

bloodofthelamb:
Sir, how did you stop speaking in that glossomania called tongue?

bloodofthelamb, with this question, you made laugh so hard that I almost knocked over my night cap drink

bloodofthelamb:
For me, it took me a while to stop it through the help of the Spirit.
I had to retrain my mind to stop, when I got the revelation personally

Old habits die hard my brother
Aside the power of the Holy Spirit, to some extent, naturally, I have a strong will, that I am able to stop doing things when I decide to
So with this, after the revelation and after getting properly informed about all that's to it, I was able to, easily
Besides, when you know the truth, the truth shall make you free of it

It was just like, when I used to smoke, I knew I could stop when I decide to not smoke anymore
and did stop when I decided not to smoke anymore

So like stopping smoking and other things I decided to stop, this one too, was easy,
except that it has occasionally two or three times in the past, tried to sneakily creep back on me
but I quickly shrugged it off, stop it in its track and nipped it in the bud

bloodofthelamb:
I was a pro in speaking in the fake tongue.

We must have been twin brothers separated at birth.
Did you read above, how I used to speak in tongue
I sold "speaking in tongue", did "speaking in tongue" and had the "speaking in tongue" T-shirt

@muttleylaff God bless you. U are probably up there already nd if u think we r going astray pray for us,that there is a fake actually shows that the original is very precious. Smith wigglesworth argued more than this until he eventually got the baptism in the Holyspirit and began to speak in tongues. His stammering stopped, his congregation knew something had happened to their pastor and even his wife was struck by the power of God during his first message after d experience.
u guys are still very much welcome to fellowship with us on this thread.

Another wonderful video. With the demonstration of the interpretation of tongues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL4JAYtUoK0

I'm in on the thread.

oyeludef:
@muttleylaff God bless you.

¹²“I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
¹³“But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth;
for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak;
and He will disclose to you what is to come
- John 16:12-13

For Jews demand miraculous signs (i.e. ask for signs)
and Greeks ask for wisdom (i.e. philiosophy)
- 1 Corinthians 1:22

So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers.
Prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers.
- 1 Corinthians 14:22

Oyeludef and Brokay2908, the primary purpose for speaking in tongues, was/is not, for use as a talisman,
neither to be used, as quicker or easier mystical shortcuts to prayers or worship
Nor is it's purpose, to be used as, a form of means to confuse the devil or demons from understanding whats been prayed

For all the 3 recorded times, speaking in other tongues, occurred in the bible,
it is visibly noted that, it happened each time, for the benefit of unbelieving Jews

For any that might have been misinformed, it is a well documented truth, as seen in 1 Corinthians 14:22 above
that speaking in tongues is not for believers, rather it is used as a sign for unbelievers (i.e. 1 Corinthians 1:22a)

oyeludef:
U are probably up there already nd if u think we r going astray pray for us

Old habits die hard, I know that
That's why you are still sticking to innuendoes. Right?

oyeludef:
that there is a fake actually shows that the original is very precious.

I knew you werent standing on firm foundation when you typed that there were no unbelievers in the other two references of the three recorded occasions of speaking in tongues
You can squirm as much as you like over the foolery.
Thats what it is, it's nothing else.

In Paul's style, I ask.
Who has bewitched you?

You have every legitimate reason to type that there is a fake
because the way speaking in tongues is being done today
as in, church folk, 21st century believers uttering unintelligible words is bable, confused noise made by a number of voices
This is not speaking in tongues (i.e. not speaking in a foreign language) but is mere babbling by unintelligible utterraces

It is the end time deception of the demonic spirit in Rev 16:13-14, symbolised as three unclean spirits that looked like frogs
And how do frogs catch their prey?
Yes, using tongues to snare believers with their false speaking in tongues deception

To speak in tongues, means audibly saying something out
or make sounds with your voice to express your thoughts and feelings in a structured, conventional, intelligible and understandable way

Speak in tongues is language (i.e. tongues of man=human language)
and has the same meaning with mother tongue, native tongue, dialect, vernacular etcetera
For example, you can speak in vernacular, can speak in your local dialect, might speak in a native tongue or speak in your mother tongue

There is a time and a place for everything.
Also there is always a reason for everything that happens or why it does not happen

Things do happen for a reason and what took place in Acts Chapter 2 happened importantly because of Acts 2:5
Place Acts 2:5 close together with Matthew 10:5-6, Matthew 15:24, Romans 1:16, especially for a comparison or contrast effect

1 Corinthians 14:22 confirms that, what took place in Acts Chapter 2, was for the benefit of any unbelieving Jews at Acts 2:5
The Jews (i.e. all adult Jewish men) thousands of them from different nations dispersed to or from where they are scattered to, would travel to Jerusalem for this pilgrim festival called Feast of Weeks or Pentecost to celebrate the giving of the Law to Moses at Mount Sinai

What took place in Acts Chapter 2, was for the benefit of the lot in Acts 2:5 and nothing to do for and/or with the lot in John 10:16

Yes, absolutely, it was apart from being a sign, was for the benefit of the unbelieving lost tribe of Israel pilgrim to the festival, who incidentally were always at the top of Jesus' list of priorities

What took place in Acts 2, was the Apostles, were actually speaking in the individual languages or dialects of the visiting Jews
and each of the pilgrim Jews present, without need of interpretation, heard and understood the preaching.

⁵But there were men dwelling in Jerusalem who were worshipers of God, Jews from every nation under Heaven.
⁶And when that noise occurred, the entire populace gathered and was agitated,
because each one of them heard that they were speaking in their dialects
⁷And they were all marveling and were amazed as they were saying, each to the other,
"Are not all these who are speaking Galileans?"*
⁸"How are we hearing, everyone, his own dialect in which we were born?"
- Acts 2:5-8

Notice the disciples were speaking recognisable spoken words, and the speech or manner of speaking was understandable
The dialects heard spoken of the day were:
1) those of the Parthians and Medes and Elanites,
2) people from Mesopotamia, Judea, Cappadocia, Pontus, the province of Asia,
3) people Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the districts of Libya around Cyrene,
and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes,
4) Cretans, and Arabs

The other two subsequent recorded ocassions of speaking in tongues, happened, again, for the benefits of unbelieving Jews

The geniune speaking in tongue, is so infrequent now because it's original and primary purpose
was for the benefit of the unbelieving lost sheep of Israel at Acts 2:5
and elsewhere before the gift got passed down to the church

oyeludef you're typing about fake, well you havent seen/heard anything yet,
you will fall off the chair, if you are shown social media ''praying in tongues'' typed on Facebook

Rev 16:13-14, is real and is here already
It is the end time deception of the demonic spirit in Rev 16:13-14,
symbolised as three unclean spirits that looked like frogs
And how do frogs catch their prey?
Yes, using tongues to snare believers with their false speaking in tongues deception, working miracles with false tongues

oyeludef:
Smith Wigglesworth argued more than this until he eventually got the baptism in the Holy Spirit and began to speak in tongues.

Your idea of the evidence of receiving the baptism of Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues.
To you, an absence of speaking of tongues equates to not yet baptised in the Holy Ghost

oyeludef:
His stammering stopped, his congregation knew something had happened to their pastor
and even his wife was struck by the power of God during his first message after d experience.
u guys are still very much welcome to fellowship with us on this thread.

My brother this constant name-dropping is increasingly becoming pitiful
You've name dropped Kenneth E. Hagin, name dropped Myles Munroe,
who you going to mention next after Smith Wigglesworth?

If you must know, I got cured of my stammering without any drama.
Its amazing the power of knowledge, what the benefits of knowing all to know, can do about stammering.

oyeludef:
Another wonderful video.
With the demonstration of the interpretation of tongues
h t tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL4JAYtUoK0

SMH. My brother you're still trawling YouTube seeking endorsement and/or relevance from half-baked videoes
What a truck load of false teachings stemmed from being ill-informed in that video
At the 27:44 mark, talked about angels liked the girls on earth, angels fornicating with women on earth. Bwahahaha ha. SMH.

Did you hear him earlier, at the video's 24:15 mark, saying Jesus spoke in tongues?
In his confusion, he first said, Jesus spoke in tongue by saying "Mene, Mene, Tekel, and Parsin"
then changed it, correctly to "Eli Eli lama sabachthani"

The thing is "Eli Eli lama sabachthani" is Aramaic
Oyeludef, watch this, Most people' last words are very profound, and Jesus' is no exception to this.
Jesus as a dying man, hung on a cross, uttered seven famous dying last words

1) Luke 23:34 - Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.
2) Luke 23:43 - Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.
3) John 19:26-27 - Woman, behold your son. Son Behold your mother.
4) Matthew 27:46 & Mark 15:34 - My God, My God, (this bit I've blanked out, to reveal more on it, later)
5) John 19:28 - I thirst.
6) John 19:30 - It is finished (or "It is accomplished'')
7) Luke 23:46 - Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.

The first of the last four words, (i.e. famous words #4)
were said, for the benefit of the disciples, which is why it was spoken in Aramaic (e.g. "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani'')
It wasnt spoken in an unknown tongue, it for crying out loud, was spoken in Aramaic.

Jesus, for the benefit of the disciples, uttered in Aramaic the purpose of His mission/assignment
(i.e. the reason all those things were happening, the reason why He was created or the reason why He came to exist)
He then, after declaring that the purpose (i.e. the process for salvation) is finished or accomplished,
excused Himself with the "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit" last word

Jesus chose His word very carefully and didnt speak impetuously when He used "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani"
Jesus, actually was paraphrasing, the beginning of Psalm 22 (i.e. Psalm 22:1),
just like He paraphrased the end of Psalm 22 (i.e Psalm 22:31)

"On the day of Pentecost, pilgrims who have travelled from far and wide to Jersalem
and who happened to be unbelieving Jews,
it was these pilgrims/unbelieving Jews that heard the gospel in their dialect and/or language

By the way, the number 120 is a biblical symbolic number meaning waiting
and that's the significance of having 120 disciples in the upper room.
The 120 disciples symbolically were waiting until the day of Pentecost when all Israelites
or all the adult Jewish men would come to Jerusalem
from wherever they were living to personally be in attendance for the Pentecost festival."
- Muttleylaff on 12:49pm On Oct 06

I had in one of my earlier posts, as reproduced above here,
talked about the symbolic meaning of the figure, 120, that was the number of disciples present in the upper room,
but notice, how at the 29:08 video mark, he butchered the symbolic meaning of the 120 disciples, that were waiting in the upper room

You by now, have gotten to know me, as one, to voraciously devour everything on the matter you type here, whether post, comment or video

I make it a point of duty, to subject everything you type here, whether post, comment or video, to the Berean effect

You are always quick to spot mistakes cos that is what you actually look for, however,we know the Spirit of God doesn't strive.
You must be joking if you think u can drag us down to dat level of urs
If something is pushing u to derail this thread it definitely isn't the spirit of God. James 3

13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.

15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. note

16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. note

17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. note

18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

MuttleyLaff:
¹²“I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
¹³“But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth;
for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak;
and He will disclose to you what is to come
- John 16:12-13

For Jews demand miraculous signs (i.e. ask for signs)
and Greeks ask for wisdom (i.e. philiosophy)
- 1 Corinthians 1:22

So you see that speaking in tongues is a sign, not for believers, but for unbelievers.
Prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers.
- 1 Corinthians 14:22

Oyeludef and Brokay2908, the primary purpose for speaking in tongues, was/is not, for use as a talisman,
neither to be used, as quicker or easier mystical shortcuts to prayers or worship
Nor is it's purpose, to be used as, a form of means to confuse the devil or demons from understanding whats been prayed

For all the 3 recorded times, speaking in other tongues, occurred in the bible,
it is visibly noted that, it happened each time, for the benefit of unbelieving Jews

For any that might have been misinformed, it is a well documented truth, as seen in 1 Corinthians 14:22 above
that speaking in tongues is not for believers, rather it is used as a sign for unbelievers (i.e. 1 Corinthians 1:22a)

Old habits die hard, I know that
That's why you are still sticking to innuendoes. Right?

I knew you werent standing on firm foundation when you typed that there were no unbelievers in the other two references of the three recorded occasions of speaking in tongues
You can squirm as much as you like over the foolery.
Thats what it is, it's nothing else.

In Paul's style, I ask.
Who has bewitched you?

You have every legitimate reason to type that there is a fake
because the way speaking in tongues is being done today
as in, church folk, 21st century believers uttering unintelligible words is bable, confused noise made by a number of voices
This is not speaking in tongues (i.e. not speaking in a foreign language) but is mere babbling by unintelligible utterraces

It is the end time deception of the demonic spirit in Rev 16:13-14, symbolised as three unclean spirits that looked like frogs
And how do frogs catch their prey?
Yes, using tongues to snare believers with their false speaking in tongues deception

To speak in tongues, means audibly saying something out
or make sounds with your voice to express your thoughts and feelings in a structured, conventional, intelligible and understandable way

Speak in tongues is language (i.e. tongues of man=human language)
and has the same meaning with mother tongue, native tongue, dialect, vernacular etcetera
For example, you can speak in vernacular, can speak in your local dialect, might speak in a native tongue or speak in your mother tongue

There is a time and a place for everything.
Also there is always a reason for everything that happens or why it does not happen

Things do happen for a reason and what took place in Acts Chapter 2 happened importantly because of Acts 2:5
Place Acts 2:5 close together with Matthew 10:5-6, Matthew 15:24, Romans 1:16, especially for a comparison or contrast effect

1 Corinthians 14:22 confirms that, what took place in Acts Chapter 2, was for the benefit of any unbelieving Jews at Acts 2:5
The Jews (i.e. all adult Jewish men) thousands of them from different nations dispersed to or from where they are scattered to, would travel to Jerusalem for this pilgrim festival called Feast of Weeks or Pentecost to celebrate the giving of the Law to Moses at Mount Sinai

What took place in Acts Chapter 2, was for the benefit of the lot in Acts 2:5 and nothing to do for and/or with the lot in John 10:16

Yes, absolutely, it was apart from being a sign, was for the benefit of the unbelieving lost tribe of Israel pilgrim to the festival, who incidentally were always at the top of Jesus' list of priorities

What took place in Acts 2, was the Apostles, were actually speaking in the individual languages or dialects of the visiting Jews
and each of the pilgrim Jews present, without need of interpretation, heard and understood the preaching.

⁵But there were men dwelling in Jerusalem who were worshipers of God, Jews from every nation under Heaven.
⁶And when that noise occurred, the entire populace gathered and was agitated,
because each one of them heard that they were speaking in their dialects
⁷And they were all marveling and were amazed as they were saying, each to the other,
"Are not all these who are speaking Galileans?"*
⁸"How are we hearing, everyone, his own dialect in which we were born?"
- Acts 2:5-8

Notice the disciples were speaking recognisable spoken words, and the speech or manner of speaking was understandable
The dialects heard spoken of the day were:
1) those of the Parthians and Medes and Elanites,
2) people from Mesopotamia, Judea, Cappadocia, Pontus, the province of Asia,
3) people Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the districts of Libya around Cyrene,
and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes,
4) Cretans, and Arabs

The other two subsequent recorded ocassions of speaking in tongues, happened, again, for the benefits of unbelieving Jews

The geniune speaking in tongue, is so infrequent now because it's original and primary purpose
was for the benefit of the unbelieving lost sheep of Israel at Acts 2:5
and elsewhere before the gift got passed down to the church

oyeludef you're typing about fake, well you havent seen/heard anything yet,
you will fall off the chair, if you are shown social media ''praying in tongues'' typed on Facebook

Rev 16:13-14, is real and is here already
It is the end time deception of the demonic spirit in Rev 16:13-14,
symbolised as three unclean spirits that looked like frogs
And how do frogs catch their prey?
Yes, using tongues to snare believers with their false speaking in tongues deception, working miracles with false tongues

Your idea of the evidence of receiving the baptism of Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues.
To you, an absence of speaking of tongues equates to not yet baptised in the Holy Ghost

My brother this constant name-dropping is increasingly becoming pitiful
You've name dropped Kenneth E. Hagin, name dropped Myles Munroe,
who you going to mention next after Smith Wigglesworth?

If you must know, I got cured of my stammering without any drama.
Its amazing the power of knowledge, what the benefits of knowing all to know, can do about stammering.

SMH. My brother you're still trawling YouTube seeking endorsement and/or relevance from half-baked videoes
What a truck load of false teachings stemmed from being ill-informed in that video
At the 27:44 mark, talked about angels liked the girls on earth, angels fornicating with women on earth. Bwahahaha ha. SMH.

Did you hear him earlier, at the video's 24:15 mark, saying Jesus spoke in tongues?
In his confusion, he first said, Jesus spoke in tongue by saying "Mene, Mene, Tekel, and Parsin"
then changed it, correctly to "Eli Eli lama sabachthani"

The thing is "Eli Eli lama sabachthani" is Aramaic
Oyeludef, watch this, Most people' last words are very profound, and Jesus' is no exception to this.
Jesus as a dying man, hung on a cross, uttered seven famous dying last words

1) Luke 23:34 - Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.
2) Luke 23:43 - Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.
3) John 19:26-27 - Woman, behold your son. Son Behold your mother.
4) Matthew 27:46 & Mark 15:34 - My God, My God, (this bit I've blanked out, to reveal more on it, later)
5) John 19:28 - I thirst.
6) John 19:30 - It is finished (or "It is accomplished'')
7) Luke 23:46 - Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.

The first of the last four words, (i.e. famous words #4)
were said, for the benefit of the disciples, which is why it was spoken in Aramaic (e.g. "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani'')
It wasnt spoken in an unknown tongue, it for crying out loud, was spoken in Aramaic.

Jesus, for the benefit of the disciples, uttered in Aramaic the purpose of His mission/assignment
(i.e. the reason all those things were happening, the reason why He was created or the reason why He came to exist)
He then, after declaring that the purpose (i.e. the process for salvation) is finished or accomplished,
excused Himself with the "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit" last word

Jesus chose His word very carefully and didnt speak impetuously when He used "Eli, Eli, lama, sabachthani"
Jesus, actually was paraphrasing, the beginning of Psalm 22 (i.e. Psalm 22:1),
just like He paraphrased the end of Psalm 22 (i.e Psalm 22:31)

"On the day of Pentecost, pilgrims who have travelled from far and wide to Jersalem
and who happened to be unbelieving Jews,
it was these pilgrims/unbelieving Jews that heard the gospel in their dialect and/or language

By the way, the number 120 is a biblical symbolic number meaning waiting
and that's the significance of having 120 disciples in the upper room.
The 120 disciples symbolically were waiting until the day of Pentecost when all Israelites
or all the adult Jewish men would come to Jerusalem
from wherever they were living to personally be in attendance for the Pentecost festival."
- Muttleylaff on 12:49pm On Oct 06

I had in one of my earlier posts, as reproduced above here,
talked about the symbolic meaning of the figure, 120, that was the number of disciples present in the upper room,
but notice, how at the 29:08 video mark, he butchered the symbolic meaning of the 120 disciples, that were waiting in the upper room

You by now, have gotten to know me, as one, to voraciously devour everything on the matter you type here, whether post, comment or video

I make it a point of duty, to subject everything you type here, whether post, comment or video, to the Berean effect

oyeludef:
You are always quick to spot mistakes cos that is what you actually look for,

Unlike you, I make it a point of duty, to subject everything you type here, whether post, comment or video, to the Berean effect

Besides, it's easy to spot contradictions in your comments, remarks and YouTube videos
because you post them after I had already and earlier commented on them
and this just shows I am ahead of you

oyeludef:
however, we know the Spirit of God doesn't strive.
You must be joking if you think u can drag us down to dat level of urs
If something is pushing u to derail this thread it definitely isn't the spirit of God.

Were you not warned about no need for innuendos?
Have you not already been advised, to leave me, out of this, oyeludef?
You were advised that if you want to attack something, attack the message, and not to attack the messenger
A leopard never changes its spots. SMH

Who do you think you are?
I am not going to descend into that slimy & dirty gutter level of yours

I dont know whats pushing you
but do know you sharply, quickly and urgently are in need of the Psalm 51:10 David Prayer
Your spirit no doubt is hardened.

oyeludef:
James 3
¹³Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you?
let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
¹⁴But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
¹⁵This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. note
¹⁶For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. note
¹⁷But the wisdom that is from above is first pure,
then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. note
¹⁸And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

"⁴And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom,
but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
⁵That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."
- 1 Corinthians 2:4-5

I remember earlier posting 1 Corinthians 2:4-5 before, but just decided to repost again just to remind you of it.

Have I yet said, that you have the arrogance of an ill-informed delighting in his own ignorance?

Those who want to mock the Holy Spirit can keep on mocking the Holy Spirit. Is it just starting today? But you, hold fast that which you have received and as for them, this shall be their judgment.

Jude 1:10, 12-13, 17-20 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

2 Peter 2:1-2, 12 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

Springsdy456958:
I'm in on the thread.

For those of us who are in for this, let's have our first joint tongue session on Tuesday. Let's pick a 30 mins period between 4pm and 8pm. If that's not convenient, let's suggest another time/day.

oyeludef:
a very welcome development. Am in

For those of us who are in for this, let's have our first joint tongue session on Tuesday. Let's pick a 30 mins period between 4pm and 8pm. If that's not convenient, let's suggest another time/day.

Brokay2908:

For those of us who are in for this, let's have our first joint tongue session on Tuesday. Let's pick a 30 mins period between 4pm and 8pm. If that's not convenient, let's suggest another time/day.

6pm is cool

Brokay2908:
Those who want to mock the Holy Spirit can keep on mocking the Holy Spirit.
Is it just starting today?
But you, hold fast that which you have received and as for them, this shall be their judgment.
Jude 1:10, 12-13, 17-20
But these speak evil of those things which they know not:
but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear:
clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

2 Peter 2:1-2, 12
But there were false prophets also among the people,
even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies,
even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed,
speak evil of the things that they understand not;
and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

"¹³And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon,
and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
¹⁴For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth
and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
¹⁵Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments,
lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
¹⁶And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon."
- Revelation 16:13-16

Rev 16:13-14, is real and is here already
It is the end time deception of the demonic spirit in Rev 16:13-14, symbolised as three unclean spirits that looked like frogs.

And how do frogs catch their prey?
Yes, they catch their prey by use of tongues
and so snared are defiant believers with this false "speaking in tongues" deception

Brokay2908:
For those of us who are in for this, let's have our first joint tongue session on Tuesday.
Let's pick a 30 mins period between 4pm and 8pm.
If that's not convenient, let's suggest another time/day.

The primary purpose for speaking in tongues, was/is not, for use as a talisman.
Neither to be used, as a form of quicker or easier mystical shortcuts to prayers or worship
Nor is it's purpose, to be used as, a form of ruse or means to confuse the devil or demons from understanding words of whats been prayed

"The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is"
- Winston Churchill

Brokay2908:

For those of us who are in for this, let's have our first joint tongue session on Tuesday. Let's pick a 30 mins period between 4pm and 8pm. If that's not convenient, let's suggest another time/day.

that time will be cool. I'm say 8pm

Brokay2908:
As part of the aim of this thread, which I believe is not given to vain janglings, is to look for a period of time convenient for us in a week, it may just be a few minutes, it may be up to some hours out of our tight schedule to just intercede in tongues together at the same time at our different places. We can alternate prayer points, it may be just tonguing as the spirit wills etc your suggestion is needed on this. I always believe believers can do something great being united in the spirit even when not together physically.

Thanks bro. Christians with thIs wonderful gift slip back when they engage in praying in the Spirit (tongues) for some times. This is a lifetime gift to be engaged in. Keneth hagin's book and David youngi cho's book have opened my eyes a lot to this wonderful gift. now let's Start sharing our experiences as we engaged in the prayer language.... PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT.

Springsdy456958:
that time will be cool. I'm say 8pm

i will like to be part of the group.i know you guys will like to use watsap but am not on watsap for now cos have misplaced my phone.
i will like u to link me up thru sms. my number: 07031818922

Brokay2908:

For those of us who are in for this, let's have our first joint tongue session on Tuesday. Let's pick a 30 mins period between 4pm and 8pm. If that's not convenient, let's suggest another time/day.

Brokay. am in sir. please am not on watsapp for now cos have misplaced my phone few months ago.
you can sms me if there is any info to pass across.
my number: 07031818922

yinkbell:

i will like to be part of the group.i know you guys will like to use watsap but am not on watsap for now cos have misplaced my phone.
i will like u to link me up thru sms. my number: 07031818922

yes Whatsapp will be more better and less cost.

can someone create a Group for it... like a Whatsapp Group.

yinkbell:


Thanks bro. Christians with thIs wonderful gift slip back when they engage in praying in the Spirit (tongues) for some times. This is a lifetime gift to be engaged in. Keneth hagin's book and David youngi cho's book have opened my eyes a lot to this wonderful gift. now let's Start sharing our experiences as we engaged in the prayer language.... PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT.

Thanks for the inspiring contribution

Springsdy456958:
can someone create a Group for it... like a Whatsapp Group.

That's a great idea. It will run on both Nairaland and WhatsApp platforms. Please do if you can create one or any one into this can create the WhatsApp group and indicate to us here immediately. We can then join through a link, if possible or we put down our numbers. I'm also on WhatsApp

yinkbell:


Brokay. am in sir. please am not on watsapp for now cos have misplaced my phone few months ago.
you can sms me if there is any info to pass across.
my number: 07031818922

You are in bro. You will be kept informed via SMS.

yinkbell:
Thanks bro.
Christians with this wonderful gift slip back when they engage in praying in the Spirit (tongues) for some times.
This is a lifetime gift to be engaged in.
Keneth Hagin's book and David Youngi Cho's book have opened my eyes a lot to this wonderful gift.
now let's start sharing our experiences as we engaged in the prayer language.... PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT.

Please share backed up with your personal examples and scriptures, what praying in the spirit is and means

Brokay2908:
Thanks for the inspiring contribution

You havent seen/heard anything yet,
you will fall off the chair, when you are shown social media ''praying in tongues'' typed on Facebook

Brokay2908:
That's a great idea.
It will run on both Nairaland and WhatsApp platforms.
Please do if you can create one or any one into this can create the WhatsApp group and indicate to us here immediately.
We can then join through a link, if possible or we put down our numbers.

Maybe praying in tongues on social media other than Facebook, is about to begin

yinkbell:


Thanks bro. Christians with thIs wonderful gift slip back when they engage in praying in the Spirit (tongues) for some times. This is a lifetime gift to be engaged in. Keneth hagin's book and David youngi cho's book have opened my eyes a lot to this wonderful gift. now let's Start sharing our experiences as we engaged in the prayer language.... PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT.

its a great gift brother. Virtually all the God's generals in the outgoing generation attests to it. Ken Hagin, Reinhard bonke, Benny hinn, oral Roberts. Men who were influential in winning souls and spreading revival fire. There is a revival around the corner and dat is why God is stirring us up to pray.
By the way, do you guys know that tongues is not a new thing to the Jews? It is recorded in the Jewish Talmud that the high priest spoke in tongues once in a year during the feast of atonement when he enters into the holy of holies he is given a supernatural language to communicate accurately with God wch dey called the tongue of God but immediately he steps out of the holy of holies after the yearly atonement, he loses the ability till the coming year again.. Imagine how precious it was to them at dat time, it is a gift we should use more earnestly.