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| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Senatorkolade: 5:00pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Lagos2canna:DONT EXPECT ANY UPDATE TILL MID NOVEMBER FOR ONLINE (London) APPLICANTS |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Lagos2canna: 5:00pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Senatorkolade:All these are stories, refuser and delay tactics is not the best method to reduce the numbers of Nigerians. @galala123 applied 6 times before his visa was approved, sometimes I ask myself why will cic suffer someone like that just because of visa. |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Lagos2canna: 5:08pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Senatorkolade:Please explain why because JANUARY start date is near, @Senatorkolade any concrete information? May, June, July and August applicants una still dey FAST so? |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Senatorkolade: 5:23pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Lagos2canna:I got the info from a lawyer |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by canadabyfire: 5:26pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
But why do u think so any official commuique on that?Senatorkolade: |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Success2019: 5:29pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Hello guys pls I need your opinion on this My total funds for a year as a student is 19,000 I am using my dad personal account of closing balance 15m and second account of 10m And am also adding my uncle as a sponsor with 1m closing balance. Do you think it ok? |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by sleekysoft(m): 5:42pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
The question here is documents submitted 4 months ago what will happen to them ?? canadabyfire: |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Senatorkolade: 6:34pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
THE PIECE BELOW WILL HELP THOSE REFUSED ON STUDY PLAN PROGRESSION IN TACKLING THE VO's CONCERN In the recent case of Omijie v. Canada (Citizenship and Immigration) 2018 FC 878 [CanLII link], Mr. Omijie is a 26-year old citizen of Nigeria who sought to study at Alberta’s NAIT for a Bachelors of Business Administration program after he had previously graduated, three years prior, from a Bachelors of Science from a university in Nigeria. Mr. Omijie’s student permit application was rejected, and not for the first time [as will be discussed below]. This case highlights the dilemma faced by many study permit applicants, particularly from countries such as Nigeria, where the last figures we have from January – March 2017 show that the number of successful applicants (371) compared to unsuccessful (2,174) and total applications lodged (2,545) leads to a 14.5% success rate. 371 2,174 2,545 53% I would assume that rate has worsened since with the volume of students seeking entry into Canada from all over the world. One of the major issues under scrutiny was the fact that the Applicant was seeking a degree to continue studies in a related area at a related level. It is also important to put into context that the Applicant’s study permit refusal had already gone back once to the visa office for reconsideration after a decision by Justice Diner. The reason it was sent back by the Federal Court was due to (as we will see also from this decision) a lack of explanation for why the “educational and employment history” was problematic. As summarized in this decision about the first judicial review: Justice Pentney (former Deputy Minister of Justice and Deputy Attorney General of Canada many of those practicing will recognize from filing previous Judicial Reviews) made two very interesting points, set out over three paragraphs of his decision, as to why judicial review should be granted and the matter sent back to the visa office for redetermination. In paragraph 23, Justice Pentney exams the evidence that was put forth by the Applicant for explaining why he wishes to pursue studies in Canada – specifically a desire to pursue hands-on, practical, and technologically advanced training. The Visa Officer does not question the evidence provided but finds fault in the cost of relocating to Canada to undertake study at the same financial level. This is very common among international students who do often come with Bachelor’s or ther advanced degrees from abroad but wish to gain Canadian specific qualifications which may require them to start at a lower level or pursue diplomas. Justice Pentney acknowledges that the Applicant may not have set out the grounds of why there was a logical progression between the two studies clearly but that the Officer’s decision to reject what was presented without adequate explanation was itself unreasonable. A recent trend of overseas visa office refusals that I have seen (both on the student and TRV side) is that the decisions are generally becoming more and more trite, with less and less reference to evidence provided. While a decision-maker is presumed to have reviewed all evidence, silence with respect to evidence that can corroborate the Applicant’s statements and that directly contradicts the visa officer’s decision, can render a decision unreasonable. That being said, with judicial review being a costly procedure, and with the possibility that matters such as these can end up in a loop of judicial reviews and refusals, it is pertinent to put the best foot forward in the first application and make it abundantly clear how the Applicant meets the statutory and regulatory requirements of a bona fide student (or visitor as the case may be) that will leave Canada at the end of their stay. In this matter, reference to policy and to previous refusals (if any) is crucial. Whether it is putting a succinct cover letter or organizing the online submission in a manner where the visa officer is clear as to where documents are located, these small steps when a visa officer has only a few minutes to review a file and render a decision, goes a long way. The Omijie decision also highlights another issue (and common point of misunderstanding) for those who pursue judicial review and expect that either the process will allow the judge to grant the study permit or else that once it is returned for reconsideration a student permit will be shortly granted. |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Nobody: 6:48pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Nawa o...the whole of Thursday, no news.... site maintenance never finish... something tells me, it's just a tactic to work on many applications.. |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by sleekysoft(m): 6:56pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Please in summary ..what does this means Senatorkolade: |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by technokid(m): 7:19pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Spoke with an Immigration consultant today and she told me the chances of me getting a student visa was low because of my age. Here is my status: - I am 34years - Single - Applying for a 2 year vocational diploma program in web development - Self sponsored - I own a web development business and run an ecommerce portal - I have 2 accounts, active company account with a closing balance of 1.2m(daily inflow and out flow of cash), personal account with a closing balance of 12m - Paid a deposit of tuition fees of 4000cad remaining a balance of 18k. Please I need your opinions on this |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Aneeta133(f): 7:30pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Senatorkolade:this one is too long na, in summary pls |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Senatorkolade: 8:03pm On Oct 25, 2018*. Modified: 8:29pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Aneeta133:If you peruse the case law very well, the presiding judge queried the VO's decision of refusing the study permit on illogical progression. The court held that in actual interpretation of the law which the visa officer misquoted, study progression does not necessarily mean from lower level to higher level. The applicant demonstrated that he wanted to pursue a program from a theory based course he got in Nigeria to a more practical one in Canada. To the judge, this is a progression. Also, the court faulted the VOs submission that the course of study is not reasonable as to why the applicant wanted to INCURE that cost of studying in Canada after the applicant had explained it in the SOP. Then the court submitted that the onus is now on the VO to provide his/her own explanation as to why he/she felt that the applicant's explanation is unreasonable. |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by clapper04: 8:09pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Hello gurus
Guess the pre-masters progam is the same thing as post graduate diploma. |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Aneeta133(f): 8:11pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Senatorkolade:Thanks |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by emmy4Gold: 8:32pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Senatorkolade:Sure it thus help, thanks for sharing |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Ezriela: 8:37pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Education has no age limit but your chance is as good as how you present your app.If it is your dream pursue it, don't let anyone discourage you technokid: |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Hormohwhunmy: 8:57pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
What about paper application? Senatorkolade: |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by sflamez: 9:06pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Senatorkolade:Ok, I really hope so. |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Austacus: 9:19pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
technokid:Don’t be discouraged by anyone, it all boils down on how you package your application. There’s no age limit in education. Besides your business can serve as your home tie if only you ain’t planning to liquidate it (though I don’t know the nature of your business). To make it easier for you, make sure your course is closely related to your current business so that you can back it up in your LOE or SOP. Moreover, You have a good finance. So also you can be the main sponsor and use your parent or any of your siblings as a subsidiary sponsor. If you're applying for winter, Be fast with it ooooh cause these cic people... Bless up |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Chocho4real(m): 9:37pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
I don't even know where to begin reading from again. I started from page 1, since the beginning of the month and October is almost rolling out and am yet to get to page 15 ��� I just need someone to guide me in here and nothing more as i intend processing a diploma admission. Thanks |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Nobody: 9:45pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Chocho4real:Read no more.. Get a representation. |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Austacus: 9:55pm On Oct 25, 2018*. Modified: 10:15pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Chocho4real:Brother, if you know the kind of mental or psychological stress IRCC is putting on us then you will understand why nobody has that time to guide you privately. (we have been waiting like forever, in fact, I personally, am feeling forgotten) Please if you've gotten your visa, kindly help some of these folks. Plssss Although you can ask your question here (people will surely guild you) Please ask your question. Bless up |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Chocho4real(m): 9:58pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
ontarioissauga:how do I do that pls? I just need to speak with someone to put carry me along pls.. I almost paid a firm with the name EWC to begin a process for me, until i said no, I can do these things myself if i start researching using Naira land and here i'm |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by galala123(m): 9:59pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
technokid:Don't let anyone discourage you. Such messages should only fire you up. I am almost 10 years older than you but recently got my study permit at UG level for that matter after having a Masters degree about 15 years ago. Granted, the chances may be low but it's not impossible. Take a chance on yourself. Your activities look impressive. Could you have applied for studies at a higher level? I don't know how deep the vocation diploma is. Don't give up or be discouraged by the Consultants message because the truth IMHO is that her statement applies to every applicant from Naija! (A careful or even careless review of the statistics will reveal that as long as you are a Nigerian, your chance is low!). Despair Not, and live not thinking when aged of what would have been, if only you gave it a shot... Or one more shot! Next time she tells you your chances are low... ...Please tell her to tell you something you don't know! |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by galala123(m): 10:02pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Meanwhile, speaking of statistics, 10% of Part 15 has gone by. This Canada thread Na fire! For every 1 page that is covered in Ireland thread, I think 50 pages are covered in Canada thread! How will the chances of being approved not be low? |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Austacus: 10:04pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
galala123: ![]() |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Chocho4real(m): 10:05pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Austacus:Thanks for your concern sir. Now i know and understand what the feelings is like in here. But i know each of everyone of those anticipating for a positive news would get it sooner or later. Just keep it on going. Maybe we talk privately, so I don't start to repeat questions that had been asked and answered millions of times in here. |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Nobody: 10:10pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Chocho4real:Pay them but be sure they will be there for you. It is hard to get hold of them after payment. So be wise! |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by clapper04: 10:30pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
Chocho4real:We're on the same page bro. I almost coughed up huge amount to those guys then i made up mind that I'm really going to work this out myself. Do you have a school or schools yet? |
| Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 15 by Chocho4real(m): 10:41pm On Oct 25, 2018 |
ontarioissauga:And how would i know they will be there for me after payment? Like u said, hard to get hold of them after payment. The money isn't the problem if study permit visa is certain last last but I just dey fear ni |
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any official commuique on that?