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adoniza:
Uwo language

Which country is that?

Just like the Bible says, "ever learning, but never coming to the knowledge of the truth"
Freeze really needs Jesus.

chisco82:
And so the letters was use to form words with meaning and the meanings can have same meaning in another language in English, Yoruba, housa, french, Hebrew etc. What's the problem in it. "Your name is Lucy and i call you chioma in Igbo language, does it change anything?
Your name is "Peace" and i call you "shalom" in Hebrew is that suppose to be a problem?

The point is that there was no letter J. U need to acknowledge that. U don't have to lie or avoid facts to be a Christian

nwabekeyi:
the name has no meaning. you are the person who doesn't have understanding of it because you have sworn not to research about it instead you choose to believe what you were told in kindergarten Sunday school

Research?.... Nah... The natural man understands not the things of the spirit for they are foolishness to him. 1cor 2:14.


Hope u get saved some day.

lordsrest:
Just like the Bible says, "ever learning, but never coming to the knowledge of the truth"
Freeze really needs Jesus.

Yes o

chisco82:
I knew it.
Don't mind Seun, let him type that rubish in islam thread since islam call Jesus isa.
He should go there and tell them it's wrong.

In defense of Seun, he, like most smart people, likes vigorous intellectual argument. But u can't do that with moslems unless u want a fatwa placed on your head. With them there is nothing like argument. It is "u agree with me or I come after u"

Some even think the efficacy of his word depends on how we pronounce. It isn't based on earthly language... I will pray in the spirit and I will pray in my understanding also... The spirit comes before the understanding... But how can u pray to whom u have not known.... How can u know who u think merely intellectual.... Whether J, Y K what matters is the person of JESUS... Who is he? Muslim claim they know him, atheist claim same. Some folks here claim same. They think it's intellectual... My people perish for lack of knowledge.
The new man believes in Jesus cos he has a relationship... Who u have a relationship is different from who u think know. "on that day, I know u not. "
I know him has my say... I know him as my Jesus, I know him as the word, I know him to be the first born among many bethren. I hope u get to know him some day...

chisco82:
And so the letters was use to form words with meaning and the meanings can have same meaning in another language in English, Yoruba, housa, french, Hebrew etc. What's the problem in it. "Your name is Lucy and i call you chioma in Igbo language, does it change anything?
Your name is "Peace" and i call you "shalom" in Hebrew is that suppose to be a problem?

On point... The world needs JESUS...

vaxx:
when the name is changing so will be his attribute becaise any new name coined will be adding more definition or subtracting from the original name.That is how society work.


Certainly . Because when you study the language epsiistmologically, you will realise yeshua was his Hebrew name. Meaning Jesus’ is not just an innocent anglicization, it’s a deliberate mangling of his name, in an effort to co-opt his identity into the Romanized version..

Yeshua militated his whole life against Greco-Roman corruption thru out entire gospel. So when the bible reported he was executed by Romans. he was saddled with a Romanized name, as a part of a campaign to incorporate him into a Euro-gentile hybrid faith; a deliberate and awful insult to him and what he stood for.

Yes, Yeshua is absolutely the better name. And calling him jesus means another thing entirely.

Euro-gentile hybrid faith, What's that?
It sound as something not part of the jewish worship.

Is is true that yeshua did not accept both the jews and the gentiles alike?

MajorLanister:
Research?.... Nah... The natural man understands not the things of the spirit for they are foolishness to him. 1cor 2:14.


Hope u get saved some day.

lol, and he wants to convince me with a roman concocted bible

thorpido:
There could be many 'J man'.It could be Joseph J man,Jerry J man or Johnson J man.
Even though the J man is supposed to refer to Jesus,in the spiritual world,there's confusion about which J.That's the problem with slangs.

But that shouldn't be a problem since we all know the "who" it's intended for. These day's many people also bear the name Jesus as well, so that ambiguity also applies to it somehow as well.

Isn't it better to stick to a person's Original name in the language that it was given rather than leaving it open to all kinds of translations?


If Segun travel's to the U.K, his name should continue to be what it is, Segun, not to be converted to the English translated version "Victor".

Its it better?

rhektor:
You are almost right until you begin to say the word was related to them in one language and we should speak that language to God? So you mean God does not understand our languages? Why would God give us a language he will not understand? You did not even say anything concerning the points I raised you just want to shovel your thoughts down my throat? Even in Israel some call Mephiboseth as Mephibosheth yet you are here trying to make me do things the way you feel it should be done? The tribe of Judah has a way they speak that distinguished them from other tribes. Why do you think the people accused Peter during the trial of Jesus? When they say his speech betrayed him, definitely there's a way they speak in Nazareth that differ from other places in Israel

Peace

Bros don't qoute me out of context

It more than the language

Let assume you are igbo man raised in yoruba community will you adopt the fully the language spoken in the community as your own and even teach to your children ignoring your own

No bro NO


This is why the Jews, Arab, Hindu, Chinese, Moslems etc are different


This is the point I'm trying to make

These people follow their original way of life

Don't look at this people as primitive, this is why they can be identify with there believes

But Christianity; believes changes with time

That's why people now worship pastors instead of God


Shalom

WetinConsignMe:
It is shalom, stop misspelling it and just about everybody knows it is Hebrew for peace. Salam in Arabic.

Thanks for the correction

I appreciate

Shalom

chisco82:
You will agree with me that the best way to learn is to learn in your mative language.
Why learning Hebrew language when i have the Bible in my own language?
Beside his arguement was baseless in the sense that he was n't argueing so we can learn or think about it rather he was doing that to tell/prove to a useless point that God does n't exist so religion was fraud. He said he is an atheist and looking for people he will deceive and draw along with him.
Yes he never type those rubish in muslim/islam thread because he knew the consequences.

His argument is never baseless

People hated him because he attacks Pastors who deceives people

Besides his point is more than the language

I believe Christianity is a way of life

Let assume you are igbo man raised in yoruba community will you adopt the fully the language spoken in the community as your own and even teach to your children ignoring your own

No bro NO


This is why the Jews, Arab, Hindu, Chinese, Moslems etc are different


This is the point I'm trying to make

These people follow their original way of life

Don't look at this people as primitive, this is why they can be identify with there believes

But Christianity; believes changes with time

That's why people now worship pastors instead of God


Shalom

adoniza:
So if we're living out his intentions, then why is there hell?

Are those who will end up in hell also his intentions?

Are terrorists also living out his intentions?

I don't know that there is a hell as we understand it. But if there is, then it is also part of God's plan

adenine02:
Thanks for the correction

I appreciate

Shalom

Peace.

Funny how u say everything else in English except peace

adoniza:
But that shouldn't be a problem since we all know the "who" it's intended for. These day's many people also bear the name Jesus as well, so that ambiguity also applies to it somehow as well.

Isn't it better to stick to a person's Original name in the language that it was given rather than leaving it open to all kinds of translations?


If Segun travel's to the U.K, his name should continue to be what it is, Segun, not to be converted to the English translated version "Victor".

Its it better?

You are writing in English.Hebrew is not the only language.
Translations are in order.

paxonel:
Euro-gentile hybrid faith, What's that?
It sound as something not part of the jewish worship.

Is is true that yeshua did not accept both the jews and the gentiles alike?

simply they are the sets of people who are not originally jews but Europeans. They mix both Greek tradItion and jewish tradItion together. In fact they birth Christianity
.
Jesus base on the gospel. Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of the house of isreal and the term "isreal " is really a reference to the house of Judah (with all 12 tribes within them. So some none jews like benjamite and the likes maybe inclusive. But as for the greeks, i doubt

thorpido:
I never said Christianity has no rules.The ten commandments were not given to Christians but Jews.
Before the Ten commandments,what rules did the people have?What rules were given to Adam?
See,you need to understand man from God's creation.When Adam was created,he didn't have rules and commandments(except not eating of the tree of life).The reason is because he had a nature andrelationship with God and not created for rules.
However, man fell because of sin and lost the relationship.He now had to live by rules and commandments.Jesus came to reestablish that relationship. Now you are open to God.His Spirit lives in you and guides you.You walk in the guidance from the inside. You do not have to face Mecca like Muslims to pray because God is in every direction and dwells in you.Christianity is beyond rules.Remember Jesus said He came to fulfill the law.Yet He said the greatest commandment was to love. If I may ask you,what rule is there to love?

Bros let rest this matter here


But try to be open minded


You asked what rules was given to Adam

Don't forget rules or commandments are do's and don'ts


God told Adam "do not eat from this tree" that's the commandment given to Adam

Many were given commandments after him

Noah
Lot
Abraham etc

God command them to do somethings and don't do somethings

Christians are not exception

Jesus said he didn't come to destroy the Law and also said Love is the biggest commandment

So the Law and the Love should be the way of life of all Christians

Lastly I'm a Muslim
And it's the command of God that we should face Mecca

Thanks for the convo


Peace be unto you bro
Shalom

WetinConsignMe:
We Xtians are not bigots and we don't insult people.
With that definition, u ain't no Xtian

Pele o Mr Christianity lol

WetinConsignMe:
Peace.

Funny how u say everything else in English except peace

No mind me

没有暴力



Take an like this

Originakalokalo:
Ignorance.

Jesus in English.

Yehoshua... in Hebrew.

Jesu in Yoruba.

What matters is who calls the name and who he is calling....

The seven sons of scava Called the name Yehoshua to deliver a demon possessed man in the Bible...

The demon possessed man told the seven sons.... Jesus we know... Paul we know...

But who are you?
The man descended on the seven guys,overpowered them and wounded them..

They called the name In it's original form... Hebrew.

But they don't know who they call.

The bottom line is.. Who does the calling..

God is not dumb... For a name to be universal in a world of thousands of language,

Then it means that it has to depend on who does the calling and the relationship between who does the calling and the person he THINKS he calls.

The name Jesus is doing wonders and there are evidences everywhere.

God uses daddy freeze's utterances TO SHOW WHO HE REALLY WORKS FOR...

He exposes himself on daily basis..

WE GIVE GLORY TO GOD FOR THAT

Great one!

laytoshtwo:
It always start from sense to nonsense,just continue listening to him.

WetinConsignMe:
I don't know that there is a hell as we understand it. But if there is, then it is also part of God's plan

What about the terrorists, are they part of God's plan too?

thorpido:
You are writing in English.Hebrew is not the only language.
Translations are in order.

Corresponding translations of a language in other languages is very understandable, but a person's name is Sacrosanct. Their shouldn't be any room for ambiguity, especially due to translation.

A person's name has to be treated as Sacrosanct.

WetinConsignMe:
The point is that there was no letter J. U need to acknowledge that. U don't have to lie or avoid facts to be a Christian

But that was not exactly the point Seun is trying to make.

adenine02:
His argument is never baseless

People hated him because he attacks Pastors who deceives people

Besides his point is more than the language

I believe Christianity is a way of life

Let assume you are igbo man raised in yoruba community will you adopt the fully the language spoken in the community as your own and even teach to your children ignoring your own

No bro NO


This is why the Jews, Arab, Hindu, Chinese, Moslems etc are different


This is the point I'm trying to make

These people follow their original way of life

Don't look at this people as primitive, this is why they can be identify with there believes

But Christianity; believes changes with time

That's why people now worship pastors instead of God


Shalom

The bolded is optional bro. take Joe Igbokwe for example, i don't think his children will ever speak igbo. Mind you what he is saying is that we shoud call him("Jesus" by his claimed original name "Yeshua" ). Going by ur arguement refrecing the Chineses etc, that(Hebrew) is still not our own original language. Like i said before we understand better in our own original language.

adenine02:
hat's why people now worship pastors instead of God

That was due to ignorance,
In every religion they have people like that.
Reason why there is shite muslim and co.
due to diffrent believe and understaning.
The rich in the muslim deceive some to go and die as succide bombers why they stay enjoying their wealth.

adenine02:
Bros let rest this matter here


But try to be open minded


You asked what rules was given to Adam

Don't forget rules or commandments are do's and don'ts


God told Adam "do not eat from this tree" that's the commandment given to Adam

Many were given commandments after him

Noah
Lot
Abraham etc

God command them to do somethings and don't do somethings

Christians are not exception

Jesus said he didn't come to destroy the Law and also said Love is the biggest commandment

So the Law and the Love should be the way of life of all Christians

Lastly I'm a Muslim
And it's the command of God that we should face Mecca

Thanks for the convocation


Peace be unto you bro
Shalom

Peace bro.

Jesus is simply the English version of Yeshua. It does not matter which year it was adopted. Language development is not static. English has evolved through several stages of development. Just like the English in the King James Version of the Bible. Most terms used there are no longer tenable in our days. What matters is you know who you are addressing. And the name Jesus has done wonders and it is still doing wonders.

Have you asked how the other tribes chose to call Jesus the way he is called? It is a question of consensus by the professors of linguistic in the communities in question.

Daddy Freeze should just go and freeze.

thorpido:
That's crap @ bolded.Anyone can twist words to make a connection.The word is Yeshua.It is simply translated into another language.
Same way you have Giallo in Italian and Yellow in English. It's that simple!

It is not that simple. A name is a name anywhere. There is no way you can vocalise Yahusha in any language and come out with Jesus. It is that simple. His name is Yahusha ask the Yahudis thy will tell you it has the same signification with Joshua. Why write Joshua for one and write Jesus for another?