Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,152,442 members, 7,816,016 topics. Date: Thursday, 02 May 2024 at 11:35 PM

How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland - Culture (3) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Culture / How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland (36148 Views)

Olu Of Warri’s Coronation To Proceed On Saturday Despite Missing Crown / A Nairalander Witnesses Iwa Akwa (Wearing Of Cloth) Ceremony In Igboland / Children Of Alaafin Of Oyo, Lamidi Olayiwola Adeyemi (Photos) (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by Mortiple(m): 8:08pm On Nov 12, 2018
I sincerely appreciate the writer who unambiguously stated that this culture is mostly practised in Anambra State.

I detest this awkward culture and make bold to say that we do not commercialize funeral ceremonies in my state, Imo. As a matter of fact, such will be considered as an abomination. Ko

Even the dead deserves respect.

2 Likes

Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by Cyoung4real(m): 8:09pm On Nov 12, 2018
Yankee101:
Sympathy of this kind is extortion. No be sympathy again. Sympathy no be by force, na to send text message if you like no reply.

At birth Omugo. At death sympathy gifts.

The monetary aspect of the Igbo life where everything is a transaction is one of the most disgusting things about that tribe.

I hit fulani, Hausa and Yoruba when they fvck up. So Igbo it's your turn today. Una too like money. Highest cases of drug dealing abroad is Igbo. Fraud cases abroad are mostly either Yoruba or Igbo. Kidnappings and money rituals Igbo (and Yoruba for rituals too).

The love of lucre is the beginning of all evil

are you done talking?
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by observanc1: 8:10pm On Nov 12, 2018
GBADEYZ:
why does the first son enjoy so much privileges

the sharing formulae is too bias and unfair
first sons enjoy too much privileges in igboland, but not d magnitude d op is alleging. May be true in his family shaa.
In my hometown in Imo State. House of the late father belongs to d first son. Land of the late father is shared into 3 among d sons of the man. First son takes one. The remain 2/3rd is shared equally among d sons and the first son takes first again (imagine). Injustice in our culture, but I'm not complaining.
Im second son.
Last 2 years, my younger brother begged me to build a house in d village. I say i would but at my own time. He was agitated. Say his worry was him not having money to build his own at d moment.
I say. And so? We stay in our late father's house when we come to d village, so what's wrong?
He asked me if i didnt know the house belonged to our first son? That the guy can send u packing whenever he wants.
I smiled and laughed. And told him ok. Let that day reach.
What da hell!!!!

2 Likes

Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by ahnie: 8:12pm On Nov 12, 2018
I learnt something today!

1 Like

Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by omooba969(m): 8:15pm On Nov 12, 2018
observanc1:
Bundle of lies and innuendos.
Wonder how this lie made frontpage

Give us your version then but if it borders on money then both of you would be hitting the same point. grin
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by Nobody: 8:15pm On Nov 12, 2018
What type of SHAMELESS lie is this? and to think that this trash made front-page? hmm, the person that wrote this is talking about his family and not the entire igbos.

My grandmother wasn't buried like that, like WTF?

2 Likes

Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by omooba969(m): 8:17pm On Nov 12, 2018
observanc1:
This thesis is even annoying to read. Lies from devil's hell all over.
Op, say that is what happens in funeral in your family. Not anambra, not igboland.

Give us your version then. smiley
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by omooba969(m): 8:20pm On Nov 12, 2018
observanc1:
it is so so unfortunate. I thought it was an article written by a professor of Igbo Culture.
Not knowing it was one riff raff that doesnt have money to bury his mum.
See the whole nonsense.
Money is borrowed, properties are sold, proceeds of the funeral are sold and profit is made and shared with ratio eldest brother getting double the portion etc
Nonsense. Absolute rubbish.

Give us your version & educate us biko. smiley

2 Likes

Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by capitalzero: 8:22pm On Nov 12, 2018
kenechukwufrank:
HOW CHILDREN OF THE DEAD SHARE PROCEED MADE FROM FUNERAL CEREMONIES IN IGBOLAND

By Anayo M. Nwosu

It is no longer a hidden fact that Igbos particularly those from Anambra do not conduct funerals to make loss. The ceremonies are conducted in such a way that a painful or funeral profit is made. The worst expectation is a breakeven.


Recall that in many cases, loans are taken with lands pledged as collateral and most often, property are sold to fund the funeral.

Wouldn’t it be stupid for one to make a loss or lose the collateral by making a loss?

You now understand why no sympathizer is entertained in Anambra funerals until he or she presents the monetary equivalent his/her sympathy to the bereaved. No one would drop N100 and expect to be given food or beer.

Revenues from funeral activities or ceremonies of grown adults or parents in Igboland consist of cash gifts, assorted drinks, cows, goats, chicken, food items and wrappers gifted to the bereaved family by various sympathizers which consist of remote and distant relatives, friends and well wishers.

Days after the funeral, most of the material gifts would have to be sold and converted to cash except for some of the clothes or wrappers which are distributed to the daughters and wives in the family and those reserved for further use. The first son or his nominee keeps them.


All the children of the deceased, especially the sons, expect an account reconciliation meeting as may be convened by the first son few days after the conclusion of the funeral ceremonies. At this meeting, the expenditures are deducted from the revenues and whatever is left is the funeral profit which is to be shared.

It is easier in a monogamous family where there are say, two or more sons or if the funeral is for a mother.

In the case of a two-son family, the first son shall divide the proceeds into three equal parts. He will take two portions and give the younger brother a portion. This is a ratio of 2:1.

If the brothers are three in number, the sharing formula is 2:1:1, that is, two portions to the first son and one each for the rest.

It is noteworthy that the first son is, no matter the number of his brothers, entitled to two portions while others will receive one portion each. It is never shared equally. The extra portion is to maintain his obi or firstsonship.

In a polygamous setting or when the funeral was that of a father with many wives, the first surviving son takes a double portion while the each of the first sons from each wife would take one portion. The first sons from respective wives of the deceased would then share their portions with their brothers in the ratio that guarantees the first son a double ration.

A share of funeral profit is in contrast with what happens at the fundraising meeting prior to the funeral, which is not necessary if the first son can foot the entire bill.

When the first son cannot raise the needed amount, other brothers including the married sisters are encouraged to contribute money to fund the funeral ceremonies and one of the siblings is appointed as an ad hoc treasurer.

During the funeral, a tray pan is placed on a table in front of the canopy where the male children and their clansmen sit to welcome sympathizers.

Each condolence visitor or sympathizer is expected to monetize or commoditize the equivalence of his or her sympathy. People, who cry loudest are not appreciated at this point. Cash or cheques are dropped into the tray while other commodities like clothes, drinks, yams, goat, chicken or cow are presented to the bereaved in the full glare of all. A clansman with an eagle eye armed with a note book and pen is positioned in the second row, behind the sons of the bereaved, to record who brought what.

There are always a big fight or long tenured enmity among brothers after their father's or mother's funerals due to the way the funeral profit is handled by the first son.

A greedy first son would wait until after the funeral to pick quarrels or even refuse to call for an account reconciliation or profit sharing meeting. He would become so busy and irritable until his brothers get annoyed and leave him alone to enjoy his greed. Sometimes, physical combats ensue.

That's why younger brothers in many families in Igbo land conduct their own funeral receptions in separate venues or in their own respective houses to collect their own condolence proceeds because of the fear that whatever is put in the central purse would be seized by a greedy eldest brother.
When the first son is known to be greedy based on his antecedents or when some well-to-do younger brothers, usually in polygamous homes want to recover all they had given to friends in the past and wouldn’t want to share, they make arrangements for their very important guests to be received and entertained in their houses or in separate venues immediately the corpse is lowered into the grave.

In a case where brothers fear inequitable sharing or greed, everybody would be made to contribute money for common things like casket, ambulance, entertainment of statutory condolence visitors like in-laws, their married sisters and common relatives.

Smart younger brothers saddled expectation to bring the bulk of the money to finance the funeral are better off telling the elder brothers that their contributions are loans which must be refunded before the profit is shared. They should demand to keep the daily condolence collections while the first son appoints the record keeper.
The option of dubbing funeral contribution as a loan is hardly refused by the elder brothers because if the funeral expenses are not refunded, the person who footed the bill of the funeral of his father automatically becomes the head of the family or obi. So, the first son would be quick to refund the loan but what happens thereafter depends on his greed level.

When next you attend a funeral ceremony in Igbo land and you see numerous reception venues with each of the sons or group of sons of the deceased sitting under a tree or canopy with a tray pan on top of the table in front of them, note that they are trying to protect their funeral revenues.

Come to think of that, how can a reclusive or an introverted brother earn where he didn’t sow?

So, an elder brother is very comfortable, who would not give to others during their own funerals would now position himself to corner the cows, goats and cash gifted by sympathizers in the name of his younger ones who are more kindhearted, generous or better known? No way!

Thank God for the kind of elder brother I have. He is my only brother. In the upcoming funeral of Mama Obiora, our mum, on 23 November 2018, we shall do it with no division. What he doesn't approve won't be done. He can take all I have while I'm alive except Uche Ukwuoma Obiabaka. If he tries that Pope must hear it.

Sincerely speaking, Catechist Obiora, my elder brother, is a man of God, who is heaven minded. He will receive all the prayers and best wishes from sympathizers while I will inherit the earth and fullness thereof.

Igbos outside Anambra might dispute the above described Igbo practice which I admit differs from what is presently obtainable in their areas. However, it is not contestable that early Igbos first settled somewhere in today's Anambra State, and like a smelly fart, Igbo culture has started losing aroma as our people “diffused” away from the epicentre where the ahụrụ or fart was first released.
Read more
http://anaedoonline.com/2018/11/12/how-children-of-the-dead/

It is either sms or phone call. I do not have time for nonsense.
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by oilPUSSY(f): 8:25pm On Nov 12, 2018
Ok
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by observanc1: 8:26pm On Nov 12, 2018
omooba969:


Give us your version then but if it borders on money then both of you would be hitting the same point. grin
let's just say it's an individual and family by family thing.
Not to be generalised as an igboland culture.
He's just stating what happens in his family and probably neihhbourhood. Not an igboland practice.

3 Likes

Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by observanc1: 8:27pm On Nov 12, 2018
omooba969:


Give us your version & educate us biko. smiley
ok. In my family, nothing of such is practised.
When young people 40 years or less die, they are buried immediately. Within a week or 2.
When elderly ones dies, their corpse are kept in mortuary for long, so extended families are well informed. When u go to one family in one town, they will refer u to another extended family in enugu and those ones will refer u to another family in ebonyi, ebonyi ones will refer u to a another in abia. And it goes in circle till u have informed all. And it will take about a month or 2. Happened when we wanted to bury my paternal grandad. Took over a month to inform all relevant people. And then prepare for d ceremony proper.
We believe in an igbo saying "onye nwe ego yaa kwaa obighi okpara gburu" literally "who has money let him foot d burial ceremony, it wasnt d first son that killed d person". We bill ourselves and give our loved ones biffitting burial. Not selling anything.
My personal experience, when my younger sister died. I foot d whole bill. Spent over 500k. My elder sister said she wanted to contribute 30k, i told her forget it. When the burial was over, my eldest brother (first son) brought 50k, thats what people brought. Asked me d sharing formular, i told him to take it, but give my younger brother whatever he wanted to. All i spent for my sister was what i wanted to, cant be replenished.
My grand dad, when he was buried, we didnt even know how d proceeds were shared. We dont care
In our family, during burial, marriage or child birth, it's always 1 table. And nobody cares of the prooceeds. We mourn our death and celebrate our birth.
And we practise the igbo tradition.
Take care.

3 Likes

Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by omooba969(m): 8:28pm On Nov 12, 2018
observanc1:
let's just say it's an individual and family by family thing.
Not to be generalised as an igboland culture.
He's just stating what happens in his family and probably neihhbourhood. Not an igboland practice.

I understand your point but Op mentioned that this is common in Anambra...quite informative though.
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by docadams: 8:31pm On Nov 12, 2018
Yankee101:
Sympathy of this kind is extortion. No be sympathy again. Sympathy no be by force, na to send text message if you like no reply.

At birth Omugo. At death sympathy gifts.

The monetary aspect of the Igbo life where everything is a transaction is one of the most disgusting things about that tribe.

I hit fulani, Hausa and Yoruba when they fvck up. So Igbo it's your turn today. Una too like money. Highest cases of drug dealing abroad is Igbo. Fraud cases abroad are mostly either Yoruba or Igbo. Kidnappings and money rituals Igbo (and Yoruba for rituals too).

The love of lucre is the beginning of all evil

Whay are you saying?I taught you were Ibo
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by Olajah81: 8:31pm On Nov 12, 2018
Too long story..
Pls can someone summaries it for me??
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by frozen70(f): 8:33pm On Nov 12, 2018
GBADEYZ:
why does the first son enjoy so much privileges

the sharing formulae is too bias and unfair

Thats a good question

The ibos attach alot to first son this, first son that.

But it's more active in homes where they are not exposed or educated. (Villagers)

The educated and the rich don't even care about any sharing formula,

Their interest is to Bury the dead and once the villagers discovered that they are too comfortable to start dragging one stupid sharing formal

That's when the wicked uncle in the village will take over the proceed and you will see them fighting themselves

But the rich family will just over look them and live them to their traditions

To them the most important thing is that the dead has been given a befitting burial

2 Likes

Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by Yankee101: 8:34pm On Nov 12, 2018
docadams:


Whay are you saying?I taught you were Ibo

So if I'm Igbo and some things are wrong in the Ummunna should keep quiet?

If there was no pressure about the Osu caste system do you think it will stop?
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by Yankee101: 8:34pm On Nov 12, 2018
Cyoung4real:


are you done talking?


So if I'm Igbo and some things are wrong in the Ummunna should i keep quiet?

If there was no pressure about the Osu caste system do you think it will stop?
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by docadams: 8:43pm On Nov 12, 2018
Yankee101:


So if I'm Igbo and some things are wrong in the Ummunna should keep quiet?

If there was no pressure about the Osu caste system do you think it will stop?

I have to apologise for my remarks in our previous encounter. You are one of a kind among the Ibos.
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by Mizwisdom(f): 8:45pm On Nov 12, 2018
They sell their daughters off and give them nothing in return grin Biafrans, our wonderful neighbors

4 Likes

Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by YorubaAssasin: 8:48pm On Nov 12, 2018
Adesouth:
IG

owo amaka......flat heads and money


#spits

grin grin
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by Nyceguy92: 8:58pm On Nov 12, 2018
While I am aware that the Igbo people of the area called Anambra organize elaborate and colourful burial ceremonies with various traditional dance groups and receptions lasting 2-3 days, I doubt that this practice is representative of the entire Igboland, even the entire Anambra area.

The best knowledge and experience I have is that the Igbo people do not have financial gains at the back of their minds while laying the dead to rest.

However, it is recognised that a few people may want to give financial help towards offsetting funeral expenses; this is why a tray is made available briefly for that purpose.

Generally, after internment and general entertainment, sons and daughters, uncles, etc, of the deceased continue to receive condolence visitors in their respective houses, and whatever they get is theirs' to keep.

In my area, funeral expenses cannot be recouped in full; that is why we try to keep it down. And we do not match the food and drinks offered to a condolence visitor to the amount of money he gives. It is unconscionable.

6 Likes

Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by blesssingtime(m): 9:01pm On Nov 12, 2018
Thanks for the Enlightenment !

1 Like

Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by Ategberoson(m): 9:03pm On Nov 12, 2018
what then is the fate of female kids? like a man that gave birth to all females ?



ladies have suffer in the hand of this outdated region. when 65yrs old woman still collect part of her house rent of their father in Yoruba land despite she's rich


this slavery of Igbo ladies will end one day when they open their eyes

5 Likes

Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by amazon14: 9:06pm On Nov 12, 2018
Yankee101:
Sympathy of this kind is extortion. No be sympathy again. Sympathy no be by force, na to send text message if you like no reply.

At birth Omugo. At death sympathy gifts.

The monetary aspect of the Igbo life where everything is a transaction is one of the most disgusting things about that tribe.

I hit fulani, Hausa and Yoruba when they fvck up. So Igbo it's your turn today. Una too like money. Highest cases of drug dealing abroad is Igbo. Fraud cases abroad are mostly either Yoruba or Igbo. Kidnappings and money rituals Igbo (and Yoruba for rituals too).

The love of lucre is the beginning of all evil


Don't believe everything you read online,
If I am not from Anambra, Orumba south to be precise, I might think this is true. Op has no knowledge of Anambra custom at all. He just want to generate traffic to his blogg.
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by xelowpage: 9:12pm On Nov 12, 2018
All because of dance. We too like to dance in Africa.
Funeral - we dance
Naming - we dance
Graduation - we dance
Wedding - we dance
Birthday - we dance
Church anniversary - we dance
Even cult initiation - they dance
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by Yankee101: 9:14pm On Nov 12, 2018
docadams:


I have to apologise for my remarks in our previous encounter. You are one of a kind among the Ibos.

Respect.

Send any phone number. 5k recharge. Even if no need am send your babe own.
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by dalass(f): 9:17pm On Nov 12, 2018
observanc1:
why will u be surprised. U swallow every lie any guy tells u hook line and sinker
And your business with that is..... tongue
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by mechanics(m): 9:32pm On Nov 12, 2018
Just seeing this for the first time o, that's serious o.
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by babyfaceafrica: 9:39pm On Nov 12, 2018
Yankee101:


Respect.

Send any phone number. 5k recharge. Even if no need am send your babe own.
make I send my own..I need card please
Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by Patrioticman007(m): 9:39pm On Nov 12, 2018
This the reason Europeans called blacks culture barbaric, repugnant to equity, fairness and good conscience.

2 Likes

Re: How Children Of The Dead Share Proceed Made From Funeral Ceremonies In Igboland by Malawian(m): 9:42pm On Nov 12, 2018
Interesting! I didn't get a kobo from my Dad's funeral o, The Igwe and cabinet of our town was even in attendance cos my dad was 2nd in command after the igwe in their "odu okike" group.

I think I am owed some money somewhere.

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (Reply)

Emir Of Zazzau, Shehu Idris, Dies At 84 / Abohs Of Delta State Are Not Igbos / Body Of Olubadan Saliu Adetunji Arrives Palace, To Be Buried Today (Video, Photo

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 70
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.