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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by Jamesayo: 10:41am On Nov 26, 2018
Reading the stories have been disheartening, but all the same there are also some lapses as well. Most applicants can't be married and most applicants won't tell you they won't elope in the US on the basis of marriage. It's just proactive on the part of the consular. My advice from experience of some people is to firstly get a tie with the US. What do I mean by that? There are short online professional courses US recognized you can take to proof you have little experience with their way of reasoning and you've demonstrated results from that. The Education is the goal and sometimes might not be a direct means. Some applicants has first chance approval because of some proven results.
A student traveling abroad for a short flight course with no experience in flying would definitely be a burden in firstly trying to adjust to the system, then understanding what is being said. Not hopefully after the course, I would be able to fly, out of it.
Just show some valid results first and proof your case.
Finally and honestly, our leaders in government are not trying. Nigeria is being ruled in the reverse format. What values do we stand for? As a country, what sustainable attainments do we have? The other day I was reading about governors in SW coming together to build a NEW university, I wept. As much as this is welcoming, it is completely lunatic. If Nigeria will have only one University, to what standard will it be built? We lack development and maintenance culture. No continuous improvement, no enforcing law as we celebrate mediocrities. Anybody can start a new thing, but not anybody can sustain things, which is what differentiate these developed from us. We need the right government really, not some jokers of POOR minded money (trillion) spenders. We operate like we lack advancement initiatives, yet we expected results. It can't work. Waiting for results from Media? Rubbish!!!

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by AngelicBeing: 10:44am On Nov 26, 2018
nijabazaar:


We have all lost hope ...

When there's no hope, desperation runs amok.

Nigeria is the nearest thing to hell on earth. And despite all the promises wehave been hearing straight from the womb, that it will be better....Nigeria is never getting better. Only a tree will stand when the axe comes swinging....Nigeria is the Axe
cool
Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by IbrahimDamola: 10:45am On Nov 26, 2018
But we yorubas claimed Boohaari will make nigeria flow with milk and honey and become developed like America, why are yorubas trying to run away after voting booharii?

I have an Ibo friend that works as a consular officer in US embassy, the guy they deny yorubas visa like say tommorow no dey. He feels yorubas simply need to stay in the country and work with booohari to make naija a better place, since they voted him in. grin

They hardly deny Igbos visas, because the US embassy simply want yorubas to remain in nigeria and stay with the 'Sai baba chainji' that they voted in. So why are my yoruba muslim brothers lamenting?

grin

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by Nobody: 10:51am On Nov 26, 2018
sotall:
Apart from indiscriminate Visa Denials, the treatment of Nigerians at the embassy is nothing to write home about.
You are made to stand on queue right from when you get to the embassy till you are in front of a consular officer.

The number of checkpoints in that embassy is more than the road block on a typical Nigerian expressway.

They will ask you to remove your belt, wristwatches, smartphone,pen just whatever is on you apart from your clothings. This isn't different from the treatment you get when an arrested criminal is about being moved from a police station counter into a cell.
Then you meet the consular officer who simply happily dashes you the blue paper.
Bro u hv been dere & see it all, dat is what we have subjected our self to, dey call us animal in dere private chat & also in practical subject us to it in our own land, wen u sell ur own people for peanut odas will buy dem wit nothing, one thing I am just sure of is dat wit D aid of dis technology Nigeria will be set free & dere will be no space for dose who sold us for peanut to operate.
Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by dometome: 10:52am On Nov 26, 2018
ayofe72:
What is the language of interview over there,
French or English?

French
Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by yhemster(m): 10:54am On Nov 26, 2018
Enough of Sentiment here, the consular officers are very much aware abt the fact that there’s hardship in the land. And many Nigerians are just looking for escape route out of the country. Since 2008, 75% of Nigerians given non-immigrant visas (study and visiting) didn’t return to the country. Y’all should be blaming those for your predicament. Matured Single men without a family and a well paying job are automatically disqualify, although few guys were successful due to backroom deals (and yes, there’s backroom deals at most embassies). Married women with kids seems very lucky with visiting visas despite most of them don’t plan to return as well grin.
Trump got nothing to do with Nigerians applying for visas, your fellow citizens didn’t play by the rules. Also, there’s a visa quota the western countries gives to the African countries. I don’t know how the quota gets distributed across the various categories of applications but I know there’s a monthly and annual limit for visa issuances.

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by planetx: 10:56am On Nov 26, 2018
Because they know you people are not going there to attend any flight school, but are economic migrants.

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by octavian(m): 10:58am On Nov 26, 2018
pat1612:
The only things that your interviewer is interested to know is
1.Are you financial capable to take care of your expenses throughout your stay in USA forget about part time jobs that you will do you need to have sufficient funds to cover you stay food clothing and all expenses. They check your bank statement how funds have come to your account is it one of or a steady flow. This help them to decide the fund is yours or u arrange it from somebody to show balance in your statment.
2. The interviewer want to make sure that you will come back to your country ones you have finished your schooling. The responsibility of proving it is on your shoulders as you need to have a rock solid reason to come back to country like your properties or your fathers business or your spouse back home. Also if you have any close relationship in USA and interviewer ask you about it like do u know anybody in USA?? Mind it that interviewer knows about it and its in your best interest to tell truth.
If you can manage to convince him on this two points your visa are most likely to be issued.

Thank You Bros.
1. The Applicant's were unable to convince the Consular Officer, this is a very simple logic "The Applicant got an admission to an aviation school", what we were not informed from the whole epistle was "are the applicants university graduates or secondary school leavers ". Assuming you are have BSc Accounting and then you decided to switch your career into Aviation, the Consular officer will gladly deny the application because he /she believes these are 2 parallel fields, but if the Applicant have an Admission in MSc Financial Management , obviously the Consular will not switch off the discussion rather he /she will engage you in a discussion such as why did you chose the course? On completion how will these knowledge impact your home country economy?


2. These is another angle to intending Applicant's, in order to save cost "we tend to apply to Community Colleges and not Universities", Imagine you, a graduate obtaining admission to study Diploma in IT in a community college, meanwhile you graduated with a BSc Computer Science from a University in Nigeria, the consular will allow you to waste your saliva and will reject the application. The logic here is this, a Community College quote and unquote is equivalent to our Technical Colleges in 9ja, he / she believes you are downgrading your education to obtain a visa rather than upgrade to a MSc or MBA or PhD sef.


3. Finally, for those that are working class and are being denied visa, try as much as possible to explain to the consular that the further studies you are embarking on will have a significant impact on the fortune of your current organisation or Nigeria, you can cite and state different examples of how your proposed study can create new ideas that will drive or turn the fortune of the business around. The consular is not bothered about where ther you have 10million naira in your account, they are simply concerned with a regular inflow of income into your acocunt that can sustain you while you study not a huge lump sum.
Note:- they never said you cannot work, your visa permits 20 Hours of Work Weekly which must not be exceeded anyways.


I'm not an American, I'm a Nigerian like you.... If you are denied a non US immigrant visa, research and read as much as possible know the school you got admission, the faculties, your superviosrs, the achievement of the schools relating to what you want to study, please learn about the towns the school is located in , the people , the culture if possible, the population of the town, unique landmarks in the location e.t.c.

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by Nukilia: 11:02am On Nov 26, 2018
abbeyty:
Reading this kind of news makes me sad. While all these Pastors and their Muslim counterpart turn Nigeria around with their payers so that others will stop humiliating us in the name of visa. And all thanks to both the present and the past leaders of this country.

They are all conning their followers and milking them. Nigerians have to think of solving our problem here first

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by AntiNigerian: 11:03am On Nov 26, 2018
49cents:
I feel no pity for them. All Nigerians know here is to calling each other afonja and biafra pigs.....fools. yall will persist like together like fools of you do not see that you are all in the same sinking ship


We must leave our differences and strive together and build our nation. Running out of Nigeria is not the way to build a nation.
If we don't start now one day there will no country to return to
one Liegeria is a scam! what fraud Lugard created can never work?
Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by Johnmattee(m): 11:03am On Nov 26, 2018
You think Trump go allow you carry shit from your shithole country to America. Lai lai, kole work gringrin.
our corruption profile has really spoil this country's image.
Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by AntiNigerian: 11:05am On Nov 26, 2018
if you wanna study , go to Norway, just learn Norwegian and you're good to go! forget about the weather or anything, if you wan Japa from naija now , try Norway, Norway is issuing visas anyhow , because they've mandated their embassies to issue more visas to Nigerians!

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by AngelicBeing: 11:06am On Nov 26, 2018
Cindy95:
Then my sister is lucky, she left in 2016 at d age of 25, she was acceptedthe first time she applied... She didn't write any IELTS, she no even pay any school fees, no accommodation over der, she had less than $1000 in her account...
Yet she was granted visa to go there and run her masters in microbiology...
She got there and was favored, got married to a missisipi guy last year and she be got a baby boy this year.. She be gotten her resident permit and green card, hoping to be a certified citizen by 2021...
She is even running a second degree in nursing and additional master program in Chem.Enginerring...
I thought it was that easy cos she was favored but when I decided to run my own, the thing just dey hard me so tey I Don dey loose hope for United State...

From your narrative, the VO are thinking that you will tow the pathway of your sister by adjusting your stay and get married than returning back to Nigeria after your program, they often ask applicants what they will do after their studies and majority will lie and say that they are coming back to Nigeria and if during your interview they ask or know you have a relative in the US who obtained his or her status via adjustment, whereas he / she during her interview indicated he / she will be coming back to Nigeria after her studies, it will definitely affect all those that are related to the applicants that are planning to visit the US, everything you say during your interview is documented.

Lastly, US visa approva rate l was higher in 2016 compared to 2018, they have tightened up all the loose ends and it is becoming difficult for both genuine and fake applicants to get the visa

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by Schwartz: 11:07am On Nov 26, 2018
I was at Point of entry in the United States just 3 months ago. I swear we werein the the queue for hours! Why because, Infront of us were Chinese students over a hundred of them yes over a hundred! All of them were holding F1 student form at immigration. Guess what?! 90% of them could not speak a word in English. It was so bad that they announced on the speaker severally that Chinese translators should come to window this and that.
I just looked at it and said so they are accepting these people because they stand to gain?! Imagine admitting people in to study who do not understand a word in the language of instruction.
The way things are going around the world it is becoming clearer and clearer that we have no other option than to fix our own country and remain in it.

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by Yankee101: 11:09am On Nov 26, 2018
People get visas and end up seeking asylum in Canada.

Canadians were so angry people with valid US visa were showing up at their doorstep looking for state benefits.

They deployed Canadians to the US embassy to reduce the empathy of consular officers.

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by AngelicBeing: 11:12am On Nov 26, 2018
Schwartz:
I was at Point of entry in the United States just 3 months ago. I swear we werein the the queue for hours! Why because, Infront of us were Chinese students over a hundred of them yes over a hundred! All of them were holding F1 student form at immigration. Guess what?! 90% of them could not speak a word in English. It was so bad that they announced on the speaker severally that Chinese translators should come to window this and that.
I just looked at it and said so they are accepting these people because they stand to gain?! Imagine admitting people in to study who do not understand a word in the language of instruction.
The way things are going around the world it is becoming clearer and clearer that we have no other option than to fix our own country and remain in it.
Hahaha grin
Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by Johnmattee(m): 11:13am On Nov 26, 2018
AntiNigerian:
if you wanna study , go to Norway, just learn Norwegian and you're good to go! forget about the weather or anything, if you wan Japa from naija now , try Norway, Norway is issuing visas anyhow , because they've mandated their embassies to issue more visas to Nigerians!
How about Finland, i heard the place is good too, low crime rate and the educational system is fast. F**k USA.

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by fghanni(m): 11:13am On Nov 26, 2018
as long as visa fee is non refundable... its keeps going on ...
Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by AntiNigerian: 11:21am On Nov 26, 2018
Johnmattee:

How about Finland, i heard the place is good too, low crime rate and the educational system is fast. F**k USA.
same there. I need to Japa by all means from naija! abeg my children deserve better, lemme finish learning Norwegian and take advantage of Norway visa issuance . Norway has a population of about 5.3M people. quite under populated cheesy
Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by Schwartz: 11:25am On Nov 26, 2018
charliboy654:
The best way to go to America is to go to any European country then from that country apply to America,
Let me disappoint you. Valid Nigerian residents in Germany that I know one on one since this Trump administration they have been rejected too.
Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by igmatt2002(m): 11:39am On Nov 26, 2018
Getting US Non immigrant visa is straight and easy. You have to show that you have strong ties in your home country, else you appear as an intending immigrant. Those consular officers don't hate you, they score you with your forms before you get there to actually know your intention.

If your intention is clear as a non immigrant, they will ask few questions and ask you to pick your passport and visa from your chosen drop off centre.

If your intentions are not clear enough, then get ready for series of tricky questions which might take 20-50 mins. If he's convinced, your visa is sure.

If your intentions are obvious, they will just ask you perhaps two to three questions usually less than 4 mins.



Admission letter from a university in the USA is not a guarantee that your visa is certain.
Its not based on what you were asked on the interview that gives you the visa, you have been scored before getting there.

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by abbeyty(m): 11:41am On Nov 26, 2018
Schwartz:
I was at Point of entry in the United States just 3 months ago. I swear we werein the the queue for hours! Why because, Infront of us were Chinese students over a hundred of them yes over a hundred! All of them were holding F1 student form at immigration. Guess what?! 90% of them could not speak a word in English. It was so bad that they announced on the speaker severally that Chinese translators should come to window this and that.
I just looked at it and said so they are accepting these people because they stand to gain?! Imagine admitting people in to study who do not understand a word in the language of instruction.
The way things are going around the world it is becoming clearer and clearer that we have no other option than to fix our own country and remain in it.

Those Chinese won't sit back in the USA when they are done with their studies. You are talking about their inability to speak English I bet,majority of them came their to study English

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by Schwartz: 11:52am On Nov 26, 2018
abbeyty:


Those Chinese won't sit back in the USA when they are done with their studies. You are talking about their inability to speak English I bet,majority of them came their to study English
of course not! I was there. Even the guys that you meet to get your baggage behind immigration, they were saying the same thing. They were wondering how they will cope.

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by texazzpete(m): 11:52am On Nov 26, 2018
Most of these people giving stories are being economical with the truth. Many show bank statements that have been suspiciously 'beefed up' a week to the interview. Some provide canned answers that clearly indicate coaching from professional visa agents. Just take a look at the suspiciously high number of people In the article that are going for a six week flight program. That just seems fishy, and you can bet the Visa officer has probably seen 500 Nigerians in the past month claim that they're interested in flying.

Then there's the lady that flew from lagos to Abuja to apply. Even with her admission date looming, she waited weeks for the Abuja visa office to open. That just signals that she's deliberately targeting a visa officer that she hasn't seen before.

That's not to say the US embassy don't have their own issues. The whole process is subjective and can be really unfair...especially when you're rejected with no explanation. But all the times I've been to the US embassy for visa application, some of the answers I've overheard from Nigerian applicants have been pretty bizarre and nonsensical.

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by BlackPantherCri: 11:57am On Nov 26, 2018
naijacentric:
Nawa oh see as dis guys are making money off us but why do nigerians find it hard to boycott tins i heard in rwanda US embassy has very low patronage because of all dis dey even prefer belgium lets use reverse psychology on dem to change this trump wicked policy besides other countries dey na only US dey okay ni

That's what happened to UK. When UK started this nonsense in 2010 or so, all attention diverted to US because back then they were more liberal. Till today, UK has lost it's appeal to Nigerians.

Truth is this is a Trump effect. Trump doesn't want us. And he gave a directive for the embassy staff to follow. I even think the embassy staff are not happy giving us denials left and right but they have to keep their job and follow orders. Also this Canada wahala will haunt us for a very long time.

All that story of Nigerians not coming back is BOBO. A few Nigerians overstay but the majority come back. We like to travel, we like shopping, we like taking pictures, we like to explore and we like to show off.. It is just who we are.

During Obama's tenure Nigerians got visas easily and barely overstayed. The highest number of Visa overstayers in the US are Canadians and Europeans. Nigeria was not even in top 10.

Truth is, for now let's visit other countries. There are 144 countries in the world. All of them cannot deny us visas

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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by iswallker(m): 12:05pm On Nov 26, 2018
igmatt2002:
Getting US Non immigrant visa is straight and easy. You have to show that you have strong ties in your home country, else you appear as an intending immigrant. Those consular officers don't hate you, they score you with your forms before you get there to actually know your intention.

If your intention is clear as a non immigrant, they will ask few questions and ask you to pick your passport and visa from your chosen drop off centre.

If your intentions are not clear enough, then get ready for series of tricky questions which might take 20-50 mins. If he's convinced, your visa is sure.

If your intentions are obvious, they will just ask you perhaps two to three questions usually less than 4 mins.



Admission letter from a university in the USA is not a guarantee that your visa is certain.
Its not based on what you were asked on the interview that gives you the visa, you have been scored before getting there.

I work in a MDA of government. i intend to attend a 4 day conference in april 2019. submitted my applicaton. waiting for interview date. what are my chances.
Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by nkayclement: 12:06pm On Nov 26, 2018
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Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by iswallker(m): 12:12pm On Nov 26, 2018
texazzpete:
Most of these people giving stories are being economical with the truth. Many show bank statements that have been suspiciously 'beefed up' a week to the interview. Some provide canned answers that clearly indicate coaching from professional visa agents. Just take a look at the suspiciously high number of people In the article that are going for a six week flight program. That just seems fishy, and you can bet the Visa officer has probably seen 500 Nigerians in the past month claim that they're interested in flying.

Then there's the lady that flew from lagos to Abuja to apply. Even with her admission date looming, she waited weeks for the Abuja visa office to open. That just signals that she's deliberately targeting a visa officer that she hasn't seen before.

That's not to say the US embassy don't have their own issues. The whole process is subjective and can be really unfair...especially when you're rejected with no explanation. But all the times I've been to the US embassy for visa application, some of the answers I've overheard from Nigerian applicants have been pretty bizarre and nonsensical.

I work in a MDA of government. I intend to attend a 4 day conference in April 2019. submitted my application. waiting for interview date. what are my chances.
Re: Visa-seeking Nigerian Students Lament Sad Experiences At US Embassy by noona(f): 12:13pm On Nov 26, 2018
Why can't Nigerians just boycott these people?? If you you aren't giving visa then pack up and leave Nigeria instead of defrauding people of their hard earned money.. There are other countries way better the US but our brothers and sisters wouldn't look elsewhere..

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