eneojoedu:
haha over 200 jobless youths like you that cannot channel your frustration towards the government, but will seat idle waiting to jump and pour out your frustration on any move by the church... the glory dome has been built, go and build your own structure or factories /companies and make it a reference point and stop making reference to "google is your friend ". or you are paralyzed in the brain you can't impact your immediate society? oh I forgot, you are a jobless youth. the church is not the cause of your problem. am subhuman(accepted) you are just a frustrated fowl.

princfred:

I guess the missionaries, with your phony unchristianly mindset, could have said exactly thesame thing to Nigerians? But guess what? They knew better and did better even when Nigeria was not ancient Isreal then. I guess now the quest of your black brand of Christianity is no longer in synch with that of early Christians and apostle because afterall Nigeria is not ancient Isreal like ancient Isreal had good government and apostles, as learned by Christ, elected to share contribution to the poor among rather than to use such contribution for personal acquisitions and whatever.

Skankhunt42:


What I'm trying to say in summary is that... YOU NO GET SENSE.

Neoviper147:
Why not build a factory instead and create employment to put meaning in people's lives, instead, you build a church to collect from the poor. Well, God knows better.

FRoosevelt:
So you built a flashy multi-million naira church auditorium then what?
How does it impact positively on the financial status of the common member who's ignorantly donated his life savings to that cause?

Oh I get it, he's proud of pointing out to others that that's his church right there. That's all he gets while floundering in his donations-induced penury.

Hector09:
Imaging if all 100 000 members drop 50 naira offering each, that we be upto 5 million naira, anyway the gods are wise

Bidobado1:


Useless piece of crap. God said he doesn't dwell in houses made with human hands yet these baboons will not stop constructing useless religious business centers whereas when they get sick, they travel abroad.
Some dumb bastard on this forum will somehow find a way to justify this fuckery.

Appili:
wasted fund,this building is just for show,can you imagine how many people the money used in construction would have changed their lifes.

owukpa:


http://www.idomavoice.com/2018/11/interviw-dr-paul-enenche-makes-shocking-revelation-about-100000-capacity-glory-dome-how-much-it-cost-dr-paul-enenche.html

Neoviper147:
Why not build a factory instead and create employment to put meaning in people's lives, instead, you build a church to collect from the poor. Well, God knows better.

jesusjnr:
It's really comical when people use instances such as that of the alabaster box to justify gross materialism and covetousness in the church and of today's church leaders.

The alabaster box incidence didn't happen more than once, and the only time it happened was when it was warranted.

But the way people just keep using as a justification for the extravagant lives of today's church leaders, they make it seem as though this was the life style that Jesus lived where several people just kept breaking alabaster boxes and pouring oil on Jesus on several occasions, despite that it was done only once and for a very strategic purpose, such as the donkey ride of Jesus(another excuse for such ones).

Hence Jesus said that what the woman had done would be held in remembrance of her wherever the His gospel was being preached, because it played a key role in making that happen!

Even the devil has being criticized by men, so the best thing is to know is if the criticism has any justification, and not just oh going oh Jesus Himself was criticized!

tuoyoojo:


mbok

why should I prove something that is obvious. if u need proof come to the church n see it

by d way in what way would my proving it to you verbally move the church to the next level

would it add more people to God's Kingdom?

how it further the gospel?

whistling

olumike001:



A MAN'S DREAM...
If you're a Christian and you despise this building under any guise to score cheap political points, I am not sure of the Bible you read.
Firstly, is God not deserving of the best? Were there no sick people, poor or uneducated people in Israel, when he gave explicit instructions of how he wanted the temple to be built?
Secondly, we have different assignments to fulfil here on earth. FACE YOURS! Start from somewhere and give it the best.
Everyone have dreams. The way you dream of building the best schools or hospitals, someone else may have a dream to build the biggest cathedrals for the worship of God Almighty. IT'S THEIR DREAM. FACE YOURS.
The developed nations you use as rational. Have you studied their history? Do you know which institutions had the largest buildings first?
Some months ago, a Church ministry in Port-Harcourt built an old-peoples home and handed to the Catholic Church. That story did not trend.
Entertainment shows that have no life-time value gulp millions of dollars. We close our eyes to them.
Even if a man goes to a club and blows N10M. I have no right to chastise him. It is HIS MONEY. It could have been his dream.
Why criticise someone's dream and hard work when you have nothing substantial you have done?
How would you feel if someone criticises the SUV you drive, the kind of house you live in, the watches, shoes, perfumes you wear?
Someone else may be expecting you to sell your SUV and use a Toyota Camry '92 model instead.
Please do not come here telling us how you want to build the biggest schools or hospitals that cater for thousands of people.
HAVE YOU STARTED ANYTHING YET?
You can proceed to build a small model school, hospital, tech hub, etc. that can serve the street or close community you live in. It can even be one-room for a start.
I even heard the Pastor of this Church lives in a rented apartment.
If you are not making BIG SACRIFICES to improve the lives or people spiritually, physically, intellectually or otherwise, you have NO MORAL RIGHT to criticise at all.
Let us CHANNEL OUR ENERGY to MOUNT PRESSURE on the GOVERNMENT to give us the best facilities for health, education, etc. It's their CONSTITUTIONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
I am not a member of Dunamis. I have never worshipped there, but I have been celebrating with them from the first time I saw this in the news about three weeks ago. It's A PLUS FOR THE BODY OF CHRIST.
Are you aware that before now, members of the Church sit under canopies and the sun in the overflow sections of the Church. Is this comfortable?
Yesterday, I saw the dedication pictures, I celebrated with them, knelt and prayed to God about my own dreams.
This is only the BEGINNING. You shall yet see bigger feats in the body of Christ.
Whatever good you criticise unjustly or refuse to celebrate , you can NEVER have.
To everyone, FACE YOUR CALLING and GIVE IT THE BEST IT DESERVES.

Chi59:

Akuko...story

InansBobo:
so we should worship God in the heat of the sun and in the rain always right?
Do not despise the gathering of the brethren so we must fellowship

jesusjnr:
First of all I don't want you to get it twisted that I'm against any church building of any sort, because that's absolutely not my point. What I'm against is when such becomes the major and the major becomes the minor.

You saw what Jesus made of the temple buildings when His disciples appeared very impressed by it to show what was more important to Him.

And prior to that what God Himself made of the temple buildings that so much went into when His people became rebellious and turned away from Him, as He sent people Himself to destroy it and burn it down, to show how much it really meant to Him.

For that's despite being the one who designed it Himself, and gave instructions of the exact materials to be used in the process of building it, inclusive of all those precious materials, which were part of the things that were taken away from the temple by those He had sent to destroy it.

For He showed that despite all those precious materials that went into, and were in the building, that it didn't mean anything to Him, because what meant everything thing to Him was the obedience and righteousness of His people Israel.

And not to say that it would have been wrong had there been poor people in the days of the construction of that temple, but just for your information there were none in Israel at the time, if you remember that those were the days of King Solomon when it was said that silver had become as sand. But i won't be surprised that it was deliberate act of God that it was so.

Speaking of dreams, from your own submission you've already shown the average mentality of today's church folks, when their dreams are tied to the things of the Earth and of this world, so I wouldn't expect you to be able to comprehend when someone's dream is not of this world, but of heavenly things with respect to the teachings of Master Jesus, such as, "my meat is to do the will of God and to finish the work".

So keep at your level of dreaming of earthly and worldly things, and kneeling down and praying to God in that respect, while I keep to mine which God has already made come through, which is of course not of this world.

And maybe you may need to see my heavenly mansion and treasures which I have laid up for me there, which are do not expire or perish as those of this world.

Maybe that's why we cannot understand each others language and why our aspirations and mindsets are so mutually opposed, for it's where a man's treasure is, that his heart will also be!

And concerning the church in PH that did something for the poor, it's no doubt that it was a good thing, but you should also know that the Pharisees who Jesus condemned also did one or two good things such as give alms to the poor and needy, but yet they were condemned by Jesus because it was not supposed to be the exception but the rule!

And there's a church in the same PH which shows the difference in this respect called OPM. And just incase I'm not a member of the church and i'm pretty much disgusted by everything else they do and preach, but my friend, when someone does something right even the way it ought to be done, I would certainly give it to him.

So I feel they, even their leader, epitomizes this difference in giving(even though he needs serious upgrade in other areas) and hence that most other churches could learn from them in this respect, inclusive of that other church in PH which you talked about.

jesusjnr:
First of all I don't want you to get it twisted that I'm against any church building of any sort, because that's absolutely not my point. What I'm against is when such becomes the major and the major becomes the minor.

You saw what Jesus made of the temple buildings when His disciples appeared very impressed by it to show what was more important to Him.

And prior to that what God Himself made of the temple buildings that so much went into when His people became rebellious and turned away from Him, as He sent people Himself to destroy it and burn it down, to show how much it really meant to Him.

For that's despite being the one who designed it Himself, and gave instructions of the exact materials to be used in the process of building it, inclusive of all those precious materials, which were part of the things that were taken away from the temple by those He had sent to destroy it.

For He showed that despite all those precious materials that went into, and were in the building, that it didn't mean anything to Him, because what meant everything thing to Him was the obedience and righteousness of His people Israel.

And not to say that it would have been wrong had there been poor people in the days of the construction of that temple, but just for your information there were none in Israel at the time, if you remember that those were the days of King Solomon when it was said that silver had become as sand. But i won't be surprised that it was deliberate act of God that it was so.

Speaking of dreams, from your own submission you've already shown the average mentality of today's church folks, when their dreams are tied to the things of the Earth and of this world, so I wouldn't expect you to be able to comprehend when someone's dream is not of this world, but of heavenly things with respect to the teachings of Master Jesus, such as, "my meat is to do the will of God and to finish the work".

So keep at your level of dreaming of earthly and worldly things, and kneeling down and praying to God in that respect, while I keep to mine which God has already made come through, which is of course not of this world.

And maybe you may need to see my heavenly mansion and treasures which I have laid up for me there, which are do not expire or perish as those of this world.

Maybe that's why we cannot understand each others language and why our aspirations and mindsets are so mutually opposed, for it's where a man's treasure is, that his heart will also be!

And concerning the church in PH that did something for the poor, it's no doubt that it was a good thing, but you should also know that the Pharisees who Jesus condemned also did one or two good things such as give alms to the poor and needy, but yet they were condemned by Jesus because it was not supposed to be the exception but the rule!

And there's a church in the same PH which shows the difference in this respect called OPM. And just incase I'm not a member of the church and i'm pretty much disgusted by everything else they do and preach, but my friend, when someone does something right even the way it ought to be done, I would certainly give it to him.

So I feel they, even their leader, epitomizes this difference in giving(even though he needs serious upgrade in other areas) and hence that most other churches could learn from them in this respect, inclusive of that other church in PH which you talked about.

BluntBoy:


You forget too quickly.

Weren't it you who said that if I paid tithes and offerings, I would have nothing to worry about as per God's work in Dunamis?

So, it is you to prove to me that Dunamis is an evidence of God's doing?

At least, if I am to consider God's work in Dunamis, I must be sure that it is truly God's work.

tuoyoojo:


this bros nor know where dey pain am o

from a believer in Jesus Christ

to telling the church how to spend the money you didn't contribute a dime to

to claiming perhaps you are dangote

now u r waiting for the proof that its God working in Dunamis

abeg mbok which one you want the mathematical equation or scientific theory to show God is working in Dunamis

hehehehe

bros make I remind you
you opinion about Dunamis is Equivalent to the space inside the "O" of the word "NOTHING "

what is the spiritual benefit of proving that its God's work

if you want proof, you have from now to Sunday, go to the nearest Dunamis Church in ur area

thank me later bruv

jesusjnr:
It seems you're actually confusing me with someone else, because this is just my third post in this respect.

That aside it's very obvious that you and your leaders as such are exactly an epitome of what Jesus meant when He spoke of the blind leaders of the blind, and you know where they both eventually end up don't you?

I'm sure that if Jesus were here you would also deride Him as the Pharisees who were covetous did when He spoke against such things, because you would think that He was saying it out of jealousy or because e get where e dey pain am.

Not knowing that His dreams and aspirations were not tied to the things of this world as those of the likes of you, for if so He would have even achieved far more in that respect than what you view as achievements when Satan offered Him all the Kingdoms of the earth and all its glory and riches in exchange for His worship.

But that He didn't because His level no be your earthly and worldly level, but of the Kingdom of God.

So keep up with your derision in this regard for it's highly welcomed!

tuoyoojo:


chairman, I apologise I made a mistake when replying someone I was discussing with. thought I corrected it. you could have seen it if u scrolled up

ehen, so wetin be all this plenty grammar when u dey talk.

since providence don carry my mata come ur side

you say make Dunamis or build church or the money wen dey spend too mush

abeg remind me make I know were me and u dey face

jesusjnr:
Na one of those things because I just see your response, and I come think say na the response of someone else wey I been dey talk with, na Him I carry my talk with am come meet you, so the best thing be say make we just live for where e dey now so that the confusion no go too much!

olumike001:


Did you read that he said God gave him instruction, should he abandon God's instruction and build factory's and industries?
Did you take your time to read the vision for building the dome?Please u mean he should abandoned that vision and build industries?
Thats is his vision,you too have vision and build house for the poor the davido,Linda ikeji should also build for the poor now.
What is your own vision,fulfil it bro stop criticizing someone else vision.
Probably i guess you re also fulfilling your vision by criticizing a man of God

tuoyoojo:


hehehehe this bros nor know where dey pain am o

from a believer in Jesus Christ

to a person telling the church how it should spend money you did not contribute a penny towards

to claiming say perhaps you be dangote

now he is asking for proof that its God working in Dunamis

mbok make I ask, na scientific equation or scientific theorem you want

chairman your opinion about Dunamis is the space in "O" of "NOTHING "

what would God's Kingdom benefit by proving the obvious to you

if u really want proof, go to the nearest Dunamis Church in ur area and get ur proof there

thank me later bruv... winks

BluntBoy:


MUST I have to break your head open before you can understand my point?

Anyway, here is what I am trying to find out.

Is earthly progress a sure evidence of God's doing (putting into consideration that the Devil was described as possessing the kingdoms and the wealth of the world)?

Remember that there are even very wealthy men who don't even believe in God.

tuoyoojo:


hahhahaha
you wan burst my skull to make ur point

oya na... take firewood lol

the bible said through wealth shall the gospel be spread abroad.
did u not hear about Dunamis with auspicious display of Godly wealth mbok

the bible also said that beloved I wish above all things that would you prosper and be in good health even as you soul prospers

I can see young man u have "the small goat mentality "( the brother of the prodigal son had everything the father had but he was asking for nothing but a small goat!!)

man lost the glory when he fell but he was restored back with the death n resurrection of jesus. so was wealth restored in his salvation

its a pity you still believe that devil still possess the wealth of this world. eyaa

bros come to Dunamis and feel rich worship of God. see miracle happening like water. hear the word that would change this ur small goat mentality. you would get ur proof of whether God is there or not

it is a pity that you associate the extravagant God with lack and penury. imagine God created the whole earth for just two people initially

eyaah.what a destiny remotely connection to lack and want. a destiny that equates wretched living to being pious

the fact that unbelievers have wealthy doesn't make the wealth of God's people invalid

bros this glory dome is just the tip of the ice "block". you would see more extravagant display of wealth and the worst you can do is complain.that's the very best you can do

BluntBoy:


Talk is cheap. Provide a Bible verse that says that the gospel would be spread through wealth.

And while you are at, let me tell you that even the Devil gives wealth. So it is not enough to conclude that I should emulate Eneche because I don't know the god he serves in secret.

BluntBoy:


Talk is cheap. Provide a Bible verse that says that the gospel would be spread through wealth.

And while you are at, let me tell you that even the Devil gives wealth. So it is not enough to conclude that I should emulate Eneche because I don't know the god he serves in secret.