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| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by alBHAGDADI(op): 7:57am On Dec 16, 2018 |
EricBloodAxe:Hebrews 7:1-4 1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. 4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils Verse 1 says Melchizedek is priest of the most high God. But you say that was God the father. Is God also his own most high priest? Read the rest verse above and even the entire chapter to see that Melchizedek is Jesus who was always appearing in flesh in the Old testament. Verse 4 even mentioned Melchizedek to be a man, and we all know Jesus came in flesh. |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MrPresident1: 7:58am On Dec 16, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:Everybody in the society is the church. Jesus did not make a dichotomy of who to assist and who not to assist, he even told us to feed and clothe our enemies. Context is important |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by alBHAGDADI(op): 8:03am On Dec 16, 2018 |
MrPresident1:Stop quoting me if you have no verse to back your claim up with. |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by alBHAGDADI(op): 8:05am On Dec 16, 2018 |
Greatzeus:Freeze deserves to be attacked because he drew it upon himself by attacking the church. The video you watched in 2000 is influenced by the same lies influencing Freeze. This thread debunked them. |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by MrPresident1: 8:11am On Dec 16, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:Romans 12:20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by alBHAGDADI(op): 8:20am On Dec 16, 2018 |
MrPresident1:Is heaping coals of fire on your enemy's head an act of love which you want us to show our neighbors? |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by Denikayan: 8:28am On Dec 16, 2018 |
Long gibberish Still didnt nail the coffin Did Jesus collect tithe? |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by BruncleZuma: 8:29am On Dec 16, 2018 |
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| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by papiwyte(m): 8:29am On Dec 16, 2018 |
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| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by Nobody: 8:31am On Dec 16, 2018*. Modified: 10:57am On Dec 16, 2018 |
Nukilia:Exactly. Nigerians are wicked, hypocrites and full of jealousy yet they visit church and mosque than every one else. They travel for pilgrimage than every one else. What are they learning in their various mosques and churches? |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by Nobody: 8:32am On Dec 16, 2018 |
Donald95:Like this?
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| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by tegrianonigltd(m): 8:32am On Dec 16, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:Your Mathew 23:23 na back of the Bible you read Lol it WOE ( I CONDEMN ) UNTO YOU THAT pay tithes ( tenth of your spices and you had neglected the more important matters of the law ( justice, mercy and faithfulness) no need to tackle you this morning. Don’t start what you can’t finish. But if you want to start, tell me, let us start. |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by ednut1(m): 8:32am On Dec 16, 2018 |
Show us proof Jesus collected tithe |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by alBHAGDADI(op): 8:33am On Dec 16, 2018 |
Denikayan:You didn't read the OP that's why you labeled it gibberish. Had it been you read it, you would have seen that Jesus collected tithe. But I believe if you read the OP, you still won't understand what I said. |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by SweetJoystick(m): 8:33am On Dec 16, 2018 |
Oga stop fooling yourself. There's nothing like spiritual Levite. It was clearly stated only the tribe should collect tithe. There were priests from other tribes after the law, why didn't they claim to be of the spiritual tribe of Levi? And FYI thite was agricultural produce not money. There was money back then gold and silver yet it wasn't recorded that tithe was ever paid in any of these forms but food only. Smh |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by dermmy(m): 8:35am On Dec 16, 2018 |
omojeesu:You are a great man |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by alBHAGDADI(op): 8:36am On Dec 16, 2018 |
tegrianonigltd:You are guilty of what you accused me of. You didn't conclude the rest of that passage. Had it been you did, you would have seen that Jesus approved of tithing. Heck, you didn't even read the OP. Mathew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by festwiz(m): 8:36am On Dec 16, 2018 |
I thought Christians were one and United? Yet look at them arguing with one another when they can just call Jesus or the holy spirit to answer their questions. LoL. Very funny. ![]() "United in Christ" indeed.
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| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by alBHAGDADI(op): 8:36am On Dec 16, 2018 |
ednut1:Read Hebrews 7 |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by alBHAGDADI(op): 8:38am On Dec 16, 2018 |
SweetJoystick:You made a statement without prove. There is nothing like spiritual Levites is the same as saying there is nothing like spiritual israel. |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by obailala(m): 8:38am On Dec 16, 2018*. Modified: 11:03am On Dec 16, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI: 1. Tithing doesn't predate the LawA tithe is simply a tenth. If a man takes 10% of an amount of money given to him to organise a feast, this can loosely be described by saying "he used a tithe of the money he collected to organise a feast." So in order not to mix up meanings, let me start with a little clarification. The tithing gospel preached today talks about regularly and mandatorily giving 10% of our earnings to a church. This version of tithing does not predate the Laws of Moses. Of course Abraham gave a tithe of his spoils to King Melchizedek, but that was not a law and neither was it commanded to him by God; Abraham did that out of his own freewill due to his love and gratitude to God following his victory in battle. It is like a thanksgiving offering, no scripture commands that it was done or must be done regularly. That brings me to the next point... You just label people who say Abraham did not continually pay tithe as 'foolish', you claim the bible had other stories to talk about so therefore, it was unnecessary to mention that little detail. You should be careful the way you insult people to pass your message across; remember, using insulting words on others doesn't necessarily make you a wise man. Now let us examine your claim, if Abraham continued to regularly give a tenth of his increase to King Melchizedek, firstly, there's no way the bible wouldn't have spared a single sentence to mention that. Again, if he did that regularly, then he would have passed the tradition unto his son Isaac, and Isaac to his sons, Jacob and Esau. From the verses you quoted above (Genesis 28:20-22), it is very clear to even a child that that was not the case; if Jacob was already a tither, then he would obviously not have needed to make a vow to God to start tithing if God kept him safe. Finally, just like Abraham, Jacob's decision to tithe was not a command, it was a personal decision, a freewill decision, and it was never a law from God. TITHING IN THE LAW, TITHING AFTER THE LAW First of all, it’s good that you acknowledge that we’re no longer under the era of the Laws. But you’re right, several things under the law are still binding till date, but these things fall under the 2 primary commands, “Love God, and Love your neighbour”. Your claim that everything which was changed under the law should have been mentioned in the new testament is not necessarily true; you don’t expect every single thing to be spelt out explicitly again even after Christ had given the 2 primary commands. For example, the law about not wearing dual fabric garment (Lev 19:19) or the law on not cutting side hair/side burns (Lev 19:27), these 2 laws were never mentioned again in the new testament, so do you mean to tell us that it is still currently an abomination and a sin for a man to cut his side hair, or to wear a garment made of dual fabric? But that notwithstanding, you claim the law on mandatory tithing was never mentioned in the new testament and therefore was never changed and is still binding even to gentile believers till date. Are you really sure the laws on tithing were not mentioned / changed? So what do you think about the teachings in 2Corinthians 9:7? 2Corinthians 9:7 – “Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver” The verse above summarises how Paul taught the Gentile believers to give, i.e. giving freely, without compulsion, whatever they make out in their heart (i.e. not a specific percentage). He also encouraged them in the prior verse to give a substantial amount, because if they give sparingly, they will only reap sparingly. If you claim that the law of Moses concerning MANDATORY tithing was and is still a binding law even to the Gentiles, how come Paul didn’t teach the Corinthians to firstly give a minimum of 10% of their earnings? Oga preacher, it is a good thing for a person to pay a tithe; a tither will certainly get blessed by God. But preaching that it is God's command to Christians even in 2018 to mandatorily give 10% of their earning to a church regularly, and that if they don't, they risk God's punishment, that is a false teaching which goes contrary to what the apostles preached. You and your likes should better repent before it's too late. |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by JeromeBlack: 8:38am On Dec 16, 2018 |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by nikz(f): 8:39am On Dec 16, 2018 |
As for me and my house we will continue to pay our tithe and more blessings |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by JustSomeDude(m): 8:39am On Dec 16, 2018 |
Africans dey fight one another because of foreign religion. I weep for fellow Africans. ASIANS are wiser |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by EricBloodAxe: 8:39am On Dec 16, 2018 |
[s] alBHAGDADI:[/s] What kind of confusionist are u? Everything has been made clear for u to digest yet u twist the Scriptures n envelope yourself in a state mental delirium. "In Christianity, according to the Epistle to the Hebrews, Jesus Christ is identified as "a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek", and so Jesus assumes the role of High Priest once and for all" There's no where in the Scriptures where it is insinuated that melchizedek was Jesus Christ. Nobody will give such false teaching except you of course. |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by TAO11(f): 8:39am On Dec 16, 2018 |
All for the money. ![]() |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by globalresource: 8:40am On Dec 16, 2018 |
omojeesu:He is not talking about morals. That is another topic. He is addressing the issue of tithe. Truth must be told. There was tithe even before the law after the law. If anyone decide not to give, no problem. But let only the truth be told |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by wink2015(m): 8:41am On Dec 16, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:Very detailed and informative However, I thought this matter has been laid to rest after various argument and counter argument running into several months. |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by Nobody: 8:41am On Dec 16, 2018 |
pressplay411:Keep shut with that nonsense seeking of forgiveness from those thieves. Have you asked Oyedepo to publicly seek forgiveness from the loved ones of the little girl he humiliated in the from of millions of people online and offline? Have you asked Adeboye to seek forgiveness from his members for lying shamelessly that touching his chair will favour them on TWO DIFFERENT OCCASSIONS? Have you asked the Gucci pastor to seek forgiveness for lying about a robust reply since 2 years ago which is yet to see the light of the day? Have you asked the bling bling pastor to seek forgiveness for lying shamelessly that tithing is for tithers children, their children's children, theirs children's children's children ?
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| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by lexy2014: 8:41am On Dec 16, 2018 |
[quote author=MrPresident1 post=73886222]Use the brain that God gave you, commonsense should tell you what to do. My neighbour is not my responsibility per se- come and see Christian. If you promote |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by SweetJoystick(m): 8:42am On Dec 16, 2018 |
alBHAGDADI:There's nothing like spiritual Israel, you talk about the Church yes it makes sense. The only thing spiritual is the Holy spirit |
| Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by alBHAGDADI(op): 8:43am On Dec 16, 2018 |
EricBloodAxe:Stop being stubbornly blind. Read the passage again. Look at the titles given to Melchizedek, are they not also the titles of Jesus Christ? If Melchizedek has no beginning nor end, then what you are saying is that he is someone like Jesus who has no beginning not end of days. Then where is he, show me? Hebrews 7:1-4 1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. 4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils |
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Lol it WOE ( I CONDEMN ) UNTO YOU THAT pay tithes ( tenth of your spices and you had neglected the more important matters of the law ( justice, mercy and faithfulness) no need to tackle you this morning. Don’t start what you can’t finish. But if you want to start, tell me, let us start.